Hi all,
As many of you I'm frustrated by the lags of this update
I'm an user since oreo I've always updated and I never deleted my data since then
I found a way that for me worked to improve my experience with Android 10 I would like to share it
Go to settings
Battery
Adaptative battery
Battery manager (switch it OFF)
Reboot
Same as above
Battery manager (switch it On)
Reboot
Additionaly I've installed tynycore free version ram memory monitor and is running in foreground providing white bar ram usage indicator
I'm not sure which step fixed the issue but now after a week I'm running a smooth experience.
Tyncore dysplay an average of ram usage around 60%
Let me know if it works for you
Good luck
Thanks, that helped with lags a lot!
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
t123321 said:
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
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I didn't care about ram usage before the "workaround" so I can say if there was a huge memory consumption.
But you are right... Memory leaks will use all your ram which can't be set free
A lag can be caused by hundreds reason as cpu consumption or wrong coding... I don't think this can be easily discovered. The resolution could be a without sense trick like this
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
a1291762 said:
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
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OS monitor in my case show 30% of free ram... not far away from tinycore assumption
My phone after 10 days is still usable after steps in post #1
Unfortunately I can't change rom in those days I need both sim working and I don't want fix drawbacks afftecting my job
I've disabled automatic updates and I'll move forward if I'll get good feedback from next updates
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
Cappucinto said:
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
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Happy to read I'm 13 days up without major issues
Your post it's a good confirmation
I'm not confident in your fix. I have tried it but my phone still gets slow between 24 and 48h of not restarting it.
Sadly this did not work on my phone. Memory shows 58% used memory but lag appears after 24hrs. Restart helps.
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
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Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
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I'm happy to help I was just near to downgrade so I can understand
I'm sorry it didn't help everyone
gonna give a try, hope to see it working, i will tell in a week
Kaimilo said:
gonna give a try, hopek to see it working, i will tell in a week
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Let us know
Good luck
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Let us know
Good luck
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for the moment is working smooth, but need more days to see
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
ema93a said:
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
Apologies for a so poor technical approach
so i update, lag has came back after 3 days
Only thing that help this is installing a custom kernl
From today i have new phone,honor 10 lite,bay bay xiaomi newer will get any xiaomi again
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
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I hadn't kept tinycore running but after seeing your message I gave it a go. I was hoping that it would help as a side effect of probing the system.
Interestingly... It showed maybe 30% free on the first day, 20% on the second day and 40% on the third day.
However, on that third day, apps are once again being killed as soon as they hit the background. Not even the Play store could update several apps without dying (after I switched to another app).
I find interesting that when tinycore reports the most "free" memory is when the system behaves the worst. Actual ram is full of cached apps, it's just not apps that are useful (IMO).
I guess it's back to daily reboots for me
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From today's update...
Anyone brave enough to try this yet on these 2.1 roms? LOL....I'm giving it a whirl....good lord. Just hope it isn't shutting down anything crucial
it shuts it self down every time you try to run it to readjust the levels....its cool.
I'm just kiddng let us know how it turns out.
i always found autokiller a lag more than a help, especially with being. able to acess androids internal memory killer and switch the settings.
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i always found autokiller a lag more than a help, especially with being. able to acess androids internal memory killer and switch the settings.
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Autokiller runs at boot to adjust the levels and then just closes. It couldn't possibly be lagging your phone, except maybe for 10 seconds at boot up.
Just FYI.
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Autokiller runs at boot to adjust the levels and then just closes. It couldn't possibly be lagging your phone, except maybe for 10 seconds at boot up.
Just FYI.
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it was deadspace on my i.s. is all im saying. doesnt autokiller do exactly what changing the native settings in rom itself do the same thing?
i didnt mean an actual stucklag
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it was deadspace on my i.s. is all im saying. doesnt autokiller do exactly what changing the native settings in rom itself do the same thing?
i didnt mean an actual stucklag
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Yup exactly. It does nothing but write to /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree in the same way that we've been doing on our phones for a little while. The difference just being that you can change it on the fly.
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Yup exactly. It does nothing but write to /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree in the same way that we've been doing on our phones for a little while. The difference just being that you can change it on the fly.
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i see the convenience in this. could switching between medium settings and extreme further battery life? i use both your latest radio and prl with great signal but notsogood battery. i always liked dcv1(here i was running stock rdo&prl) because that battery just ran ALL DAY on a nights charge.
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i see the convenience in this. could switching between medium settings and extreme further battery life? i use both your latest radio and prl with great signal but notsogood battery. i always liked dcv1(here i was running stock rdo&prl) because that battery just ran ALL DAY on a nights charge.
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It actually wouldn't effect battery life by having less stuff in memory, but it will if those things are actually using the CPU. In that case setting it to a higher setting will conserve battery. I can go at LEAST 24 hours on mine without a charge. I've done 1.5-2 on several occasions. You might have an app that's gone rogue.
An hour after update and reboot....consistently running on 80-85MB....w/ Helix Launcher, this thing is screaming. LWP haven't been affected. I have yet to try this w/ Alarm functions or running multi apps like Music/Browswer in the background...but so far, seems sweet!
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An hour after update and reboot....consistently running on 80-85MB....w/ Helix Launcher, this thing is screaming. LWP haven't been affected. I have yet to try this w/ Alarm functions or running multi apps like Music/Browswer in the background...but so far, seems sweet!
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Can you tell me what settings it's giving (the 6 numbers) for extreme? I'm working on downloading it but my phone isn't in a functional state at the moment.
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It actually wouldn't effect battery life by having less stuff in memory, but it will if those things are actually using the CPU. In that case setting it to a higher setting will conserve battery. I can go at LEAST 24 hours on mine without a charge. I've done 1.5-2 on several occasions. You might have an app that's gone rogue.
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24hrs?! in my effing dreams.
ok, ill give it a go acd report back. i keep good record of my battery life and data connection.
btw, while your engaged in convo here, itll be nice to say this to "your face"
i support you fully as a dev. i always like eris leaks, backporting like that is true dev'ing. nowadays ROMs are sloppy. what you did and brought to this community is priceless.
autokiller is free in the market, right? ive only ever played with it when included in a rom.
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can you tell me what settings it's giving (the 6 numbers) for extreme? I'm working on downloading it but my phone isn't in a functional state at the moment. :d
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1536 3072 4096 38400 40960
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Can you tell me what settings it's giving (the 6 numbers) for extreme? I'm working on downloading it but my phone isn't in a functional state at the moment.
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(In page form) (Curr @ 62 MB w/ a LWP being the memory hogger right now lol)
FA: 1536
VA: 3072
SS: 4096
HA: 38400
CP: 40960
EA: 43520
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24hrs?! in my effing dreams.
ok, ill give it a go acd report back. i keep good record of my battery life and data connection.
btw, while your engaged in convo here, itll be nice to say this to "your face"
i support you fully as a dev. i always like eris leaks, backporting like that is true dev'ing. nowadays ROMs are sloppy. what you did and brought to this community is priceless.
autokiller is free in the market, right? ive only ever played with it when included in a rom.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. But I won't drag that mess in to this thread. And yea, it's free in the market.
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Looks like you missed one.
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(In page form) (Curr @ 62 MB w/ a LWP being the memory hogger right now lol)
FA: 1536
VA: 3072
SS: 4096
HA: 38400
CP: 40960
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Thanks.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. But I won't drag that mess in to this thread. And yea, it's free in the market.
Looks like you missed one.
Thanks.
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NP.
Also, dunno if anyone has pointed this out before, but another great way to save batt. life (w/ all roms, but in particular w/ these 2.1's running Autokiller automatically).... disable "background data" in your sync settings. More and more of these apps are ad-supported, and eat data in the background everytime you open them...eating even more data if you don't close out properly. Autokiller being one of them, by disabling BD, it'll give you a "no network connection could be found" error w/o affecting app performance.
set to agressive now
lets see what happens
to be sure...settings take effect on reboot? and first few minutes laggy? thats what im experiencing. also, no need for taskmngr?
Wow, definitely is extreme... I just tried it and it doubled my available memory from about 30MB's to about 60MB's more or less... haven't been playing with the phone much yet so can't say if it'll stay stable or whatnot but very impressed it booted up with twice the amount of free memory...
I still don't get how some of you have over 80MB+ free...
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to be sure...settings take effect on reboot? and first few minutes laggy? thats what im experiencing. also, no need for taskmngr?
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The settings take effect as soon as you hit apply. The problem with android is that they will be reset every single time you reboot because the real values are set in the ramdisk. That's why at the beginning of every boot autokiller runs and redoes the values.
It's possible you'll experience some lag when you first change the setting as android slowly works to remove the applications that are now over the limit. It asks them to close nicely and doesn't just kill them off. Haha. And no, don't use a task killer.
I'm actually writing a post for geekfor.me right now about autokiller since I've seen a few posts like this. Working on booting my phone so that I can get some screen shots.
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Wow, definitely is extreme... I just tried it and it doubled my available memory from about 30MB's to about 60MB's more or less... haven't been playing with the phone much yet so can't say if it'll stay stable or whatnot but very impressed it booted up with twice the amount of free memory...
I still don't get how some of you have over 80MB+ free...
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Certain things (ie. settings) have a wide variance in RAM usage depending on what you're actually doing while in there....so best way to avoid it lingering when you're done is to figure out the best way (or app) to see what you want w/o resorting to or setting shortcuts to settings everytime, so that RAM remains available.
For example, battery monitors almost always will leave settings running, and vary from 3MB+ until you close it out. Relying on the stock one, and opening up a monitor when absolutely necessary saves you RAM right there.
Not sure if how I've worded that makes sense, but.....doing that plus killing off background data unless necessary keeps the system lag almost non-existant, and 24-36 hr batt life w/ moderate usage. To be honest, the TWS "fix" on these 2.1's, until a script can be written or when the official version comes out, is almost unnecessary @ this point if you accomodate your system w/ other basic maintenance!
anyone else having problems with the most recent update of Juice defender?
Running Kings kernel #6 and #8 (that i've tried, and its causing extreme lag)
seems like this started after last update to it if I recall.
anyone have a rolled back version of Ultimate juice?
Can you give any more info on what exactly is going wrong? Is the touchscreen just not responding quickly, or is the whole phone that's chugging along? Juice defender on my phone always takes a second or so to re-enable everything after I unlock the screen, and I had an issue for a while where that would take 10+ seconds for it to do this.
Wiping the cache and Dalvik seemed to fix the issue, but I haven't the slightest idea why. That's what worked for me, but if you've tried different kernels and wiped in between flashes and you're still having the issue, your guess is as good as mine.
i had to uninstall juice defender... it was causing everything to go so slow.. even the KB would lag that it would input the secondary fuctions like if i would long press... it kinda ruined the BFS kernel if you ask me
Both hardware unresponsive and chugging during scrolling and selection.
Terribly bad.
Its either SetCPU or Juice defender doing it.
I installed SETCPU and did my thing for 2 hours and it was fine.
installed Juice defender, problems arose.
uninstalled Juice defender, Problem persisted.
Uninstalled SETCPU problems went away.
so tried to opposite the cycle and install Juice defender first.
Phone is now problematic again.
So my guess is not only is Juice defender the problem but its causing an issue with SETCPU as well
(I am not using the CPU option in Juice defender before anyone asks)
yeah, like I said multiple roms, using Amon Ra recovery (since I don't feel clockwork wipes well) and have wiped dalvik/cache , problem still persists.
I've noticed that SetCPU has been updated recently, and maybe they just arent playing well together, But even with SetCPU uninstalled JuiceDefender is wreaking havoc, phone is completely unusable, I can barely uninstall the application after its been installed, have to reboot phone and get to it within 30 seconds before it bogs down and lags phone.
Edit: so its not just me? also running kings and last few days with JD installed its killing me, Which sucks because it really did double my battery life.
Literally didn't lose 1% battery when screen was off all night unplugged haha.
I had just installed Juice Defender 4 days ago and I gotta admit, I was kinda hesitant to do so. I have read quite a few posts regarding the slow downs and sluggishness related to juice defender. As of today, I couldn't be happier with it. My battery life has definitely improved (I'm getting at least 5+ hours more a day with JD running). And i haven't experienced and slow downs or delays with any of my evos functions. I'm running cm 6 nightly (forget which one) with snap 7.11 kernel, and setcpu.
dschoenike
I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
something ruined the App in the most recent update thats for sure, I'll have to report and watch for further development because it truly is great when it works.
The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
Ultimate Juice always caused lag for me when I used it. It is a completely useless app, in my opinion, since SetCPU + the natural battery life is fantastic.
JD
Im running Juicedefender ultimate, 1.8.8 Fresh 3, netarchy 4.1.9 and everything is awesome. batt x 2.46 and no lag
i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
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I used the stable version, once I updated it ran like crap.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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Thx man, that seemed to have done the job.
does juice defender cut off 4G ?
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I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
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Most people don't have any issues with this app. Maybe you should check to make sure it isn't something else entirely, or maybe just another app like setCPU conflicting.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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whats the difference from the apk you posted to the one in the market?
The one in the market is the latest stable (v1.8.8) - while thedudejdog attached the latest beta available that time. You could also check http:/latedroid.com/beta/latest/ (sorry, as a new user I cannot post this as working link) for the always latest beta (currently v2.2.0).
But as I'm just here: I currently have installed the latest stable (1.8.8), and have some severe problems with it. What is the best way to switch to the beta (to give JD another chance) without losing the settings - if that's possible at all?
My probs with 1.8.8:
As soon as JD is running and the screen switches off, my IRC client (AndChat) loses the connection
I cannot "configure apps" - JD won't save the changes. With a little trick I can do changes here - but settings are always saved for 1 app only, i.e. if I enable/disable app b with this trick, settings of app b are saved - but those of app a (configured previously) are lost. That means there can only be 1 app configured at a given time.
If JD disabled data completely, they sometimes can be enabled only by a phone reboot (yes, I heard this may also be Android-2.1 specific).
With those problems persisting, the app would be quite useless to me: what does it help if I gain 2..5 hours (or even a day) of battery when I'm not able to use the phone as I require? Without JD, it currently lasts for about 3 full days. Gaining more would be nice - but compared to any trouble I'd prefer staying with my 3 days
What's up all. I currently have the LG G3 for Verizon. I have it rooted and running xposed. I am waiting on a 64gb S6 that I won in eBay.
My question is for anyone that has moved from the G3 to S6. What are your likes/dislikes for the S6 and how does it compare negatively or positively.
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For me the G3 was the limit on comfortable size, so this is obviously easier for me to hold. I do miss the buttons on the back but that's not to say the buttons on the S6 are bad or misplaced, I just prefer them on back.
The battery is worse and even with little workarounds it's just not as good as the G3 on that front. Fast Charging and wireless charging help with that but the battery is is biggest downfall in my opinion.
I feel like most of the reviews out their reflect my opinions pretty closely.
S6 is perfect except for RAM management. Its like having a Task manager that is ultra aggressive and closes any and every program in the background. It feels like i have a phone that has 500 mb of RAM. SMH
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S6 is perfect except for RAM management. Its like having a Task manager that is ultra aggressive and closes any and every program in the background. It feels like i have a phone that has 500 mb of RAM. SMH
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The S6 is crazy fast. You should not need a task manager. Android is Linux based and it uses unused ram for disk caching. Here is a great explanation.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Verizon just released the Samsung update that fixes the over agressive ram management. As for the battery, there are some things you can do. I won't go over it all here. Just look it up in the Q&A and general sections.
Are you sure this was a fix. I thought users yesterday were reporting no changes in regards to this? I really would be happy if this turns out true
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The S6 is crazy fast. You should not need a task manager. Android is Linux based and it uses unused ram for disk caching. Here is a great explanation.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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You didnt undertand my post. Thanks for trying tho.
Came from a G3 about a week ago and couldn't be happier. I loved my G3 and still find myself double tapping the screen to turn it on the reaching for the buttons on the back, but other than that I couldn't be happier. The size of the G3 got to be a bit cumbersome at times, and the battery life believe or not was worse with the G3. Could not be satisfied with the switch.
My battery BLOWS away my GF's G3. Both took phones off at 6AM. She was dead by 4PM. Mine still has 20% at 10PM. We were shooting HD video and pics all day and uploading. Now hers was stock and there are def issues with the OTA 5.0 on G3 but still.
If you have Cell Standby issues using a huge amount of battery do the fix.
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Are you sure this was a fix. I thought users yesterday were reporting no changes in regards to this? I really would be happy if this turns out true
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If you look at ram usage nothing appears to have changed. What I have noticed though is that I no longer get the screen redraws and sluggish behavior over just a short amount of time. They did something. I don't think we will see the full effect though until we get the next update that closes the memory leak.
I really appreciate the input from everyone. I can't keep 2 phones, but I'm not going to rush and sell my g3.
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Verizon just released the Samsung update that fixes the over agressive ram management. As for the battery, there are some things you can do. I won't go over it all here. Just look it up in the Q&A and general sections.
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Unfortunately this update did not fix the overagressive ram management
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Unfortunately this update did not fix the overagressive ram management
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I don't think it resolved the issue entirely. But I don't have screen redraws anymore. Hopefully the next update that's supposed to close the memory leak will fix it once and for all. I'm kind of disappointed in Google for releasing the pile of garbage that was lollipop.
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I don't think it resolved the issue entirely. But I don't have screen redraws anymore. Hopefully the next update that's supposed to close the memory leak will fix it once and for all. I'm kind of disappointed in Google for releasing the pile of garbage that was lollipop.
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Maybe it improved slightly but most of the time I still get redrawn where I shouldn't. Especially when going back to the launcher.
Is ram management, ram leak and aggressive app killing issues are officially fixed or not? Aggressive app killing is some sort of feature that can be disabled ?Also can you guys please post ss of your current ram usage. Do post which update you are using.
International variant users , you get the updates first right? can u guys confirm pls
Thanks in advance
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i am on 5.1.1 since yesterday, so it's hard to say, but it's still present, maybe a bit better but still needs improvements, and no you can't disable this "feature", if you root your phone you can make it better by changing some things in the build file....my normal ram usage is 80-85%, but even with that my phone doesn't lag at all....i would say we should wait a bit longer....i am sure samsung will fix this issue....maybe with 6.0...
Android is meant to have little free RAM. It's not like Windows.
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i am on 5.1.1 since yesterday, so it's hard to say, but it's still present, maybe a bit better but still needs improvements, and no you can't disable this "feature", if you root your phone you can make it better by changing some things in the build file....my normal ram usage is 80-85%, but even with that my phone doesn't lag at all....i would say we should wait a bit longer....i am sure samsung will fix this issue....maybe with 6.0...
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Thanks for the reply. I'm waiting for this issue to be fixed. then i might buy s6
Thanks again for your reply
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Android is meant to have little free RAM. It's not like Windows.
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but it isn't supposed to aggresively kill apps i think
that's what i want to be fixed
Dear sir,
Can you confirm that the update changes icons to be like note 5 or still the same ?
Thanks
sonasteel said:
Dear sir,
Can you confirm that the update changes icons to be like note 5 or still the same ?
Thanks
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This is the screenshot on 5.1.1 OF8 i dont know if it changed or not because I upgrade right when I got the phone so haven't not the icon on the previous version
today i tried to test the ram, i opened facebook, twitter, whatsapp, stock browser, dialer, contacts, messages, then i tried to switch between them, and the only app that reloaded all the time was facebook.....the stock browser didn't reload even once, and the web i opened is quit heavy with ton of ads and flash......so i guess it's for sure better than 5.0.2 but still not perfect...
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63268027
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
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I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0