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A few days ago i mailed some questions to acer about issues we discuss at XDA and in a german board. Especially about heating and some lags.
Today i got an answer. Acer is thankfull for the user comunities feedback. They are working currently on an update to give "better user experience to the Acer A700 Iconia Tab owners" (whatever it means ). They announced the FOTA update for the end of july.
They didn't mention the coming version - but i don't believe, that it could be jellybean. But it is ok, when they get some essential issues fixed!
Regards!
Great news, I saw that another user here posted a reply on some topic with the same information.
I returned my overheating tablet and got another one. This one doesn't get that hot, so I think it's rather a hardware issue than a software... But hey, who knows? xd
Thanks for sharing. The a700 is a good tablet to use on a daily basis, but I definitely believe that with a good software update it could even become a great tablet.
Thankyou for the welcome news.
I have to say, I enjoy mine very much - especially for video. It has a few little niggles that I'd like worked out though, so hopefully the FOTA has a few goodies in it for us!
TomONeill said:
Great news, I saw that another user here posted a reply on some topic with the same information.
I returned my overheating tablet and got another one. This one doesn't get that hot, so I think it's rather a hardware issue than a software... But hey, who knows? xd
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Yes, the individual variations may be just what makes one tablet usable and another not, as it seems that most of us can routinely get the CPU/GPU up to 80-85 deg C in normal use, which is only a few degrees below shutdown temperature. And, for example better heat sinks may help a lot. But still, I think software tweaks reducing the heat generating workload, for example running non-essential processes with lower priority and forcing CPU frequency down sooner when CPU/GPU heats up could help for better utilization.
Finally the update has arrived.
Image-Version: Acer_AV043_A700_RV07RC06_EMAE_DE
Build-Number : Acer_AV043_A700_1.027.00_EMEA_DE
In a german android forum users have different experiences with the update, good and bad ones. I just installed my update, so i can't say anything about it.
First post greetings to everyone :highfive:
Received the small update, 5MB in size. It does lock the bootloader again.
No apparent changes and the improved responsiveness of the tablet is imaginary I am sure.
330MB update on US...
Brought back some lag issues I thought I was over after tweaking around a bit...Kinda ticked off that it got slower after the update. On the bright side, I've no longer got a weird polygon-jumping screen thing going on. Not noticed much else by way of changes or fixes.
What tweaks?
What tweaks did you do to reduce lag?
ExtremeRyno said:
330MB update on US...
Brought back some lag issues I thought I was over after tweaking around a bit...Kinda ticked off that it got slower after the update. On the bright side, I've no longer got a weird polygon-jumping screen thing going on. Not noticed much else by way of changes or fixes.
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I don't know about you guys but my tab actually feels a lot more responsive now. Gaming in particular I'm noticing seemingly better frame rates. I had already disabled many apps to speed up the tab before. I haven't gone through extensive testing but I will say it still gets just as hot as before except that it now runs faster/better.
Received a new update today.
AV043_A700_1.0055.00_EMEA_DE
Sice: ~40 mb
It adds 2 new power option to the settings. They are called balanced and performance. With Balanced the performance seems to be like before. With the second option the device runs better and smoother then before. But I have noticed more heat on the right side. Maybe acer just pumped up the standard clock speed or something I don't know. Before the update I almost had no heating problem now it seems to be stronger. I will test the other powersetti maybe the device gets less heated.
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eman01 said:
What tweaks did you do to reduce lag?
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In both places in Settings where you are able to change the font size, I set to "normal," disabled the ring, and deleted all the Acer bloat programs and Kindle and Zinio. Installed Apex Launcher, and it actually worked pretty fast. This update borked all that. Settings are all the same, but it is running slow again.
I'm looking forward to custom ROMs...Acer kinda failed on this update.
BonzenPaule said:
Received a new update today.
AV043_A700_1.0055.00_EMEA_DE
Sice: ~40 mb
It adds 2 new power option to the settings. They are called balanced and performance...
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I don't see these power options in my settings. Is this something in the German version but not the US version?
Captain Crypto said:
I don't see these power options in my settings. Is this something in the German version but not the US version?
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Well what's your version? I just got this update yesterday and it was the second one this week. At first I had 01.0027.00_EMEA_DE which didn't change to much. I.e it didn't had the 2 new power settings. Maybe you will get it later.
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Well, i got the first 5Mb update a couple of days ago and today there is anotherone for germany online ..
.. the first one upgraded from image rv07rc03 / buildNr 1.023.00 to image rv07rc06 / buildNr 1.027.00 and it was 'only' 5Mb large. The new update is image rv23rc02 and about 40Mb large and should correct some issues with the sensors, apk-crushes, adds more languages and some energy options ..
.. i will install it later today and report back if there's something realy worthy about it
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Added also a screenshot from the update notification
I am now at build number AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1.
Not sure if that helps with answering the question since the build numbers are different.
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I am now at build number AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1.
Not sure if that helps with answering the question since the build numbers are different.
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Well that's explains why you don't got the power settings. It's not yet implemented in your build. Just wait for another update with a higher number and you will get it too.
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I would love a copy of the AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1 ROM is possible....
Hi, my A700 is unlocked and rooted, the installation of the OTA failed:
do I have before to lock and unroot?
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Just for the stats, versions after the latest update:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Image-Version: Acer_av043_a700_rv23rc02_emea_de
Build-Number: Acer_av043_a700_1.55.00_emea_de
Kernel Version: 2.6.39.4+
What's up all. I currently have the LG G3 for Verizon. I have it rooted and running xposed. I am waiting on a 64gb S6 that I won in eBay.
My question is for anyone that has moved from the G3 to S6. What are your likes/dislikes for the S6 and how does it compare negatively or positively.
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For me the G3 was the limit on comfortable size, so this is obviously easier for me to hold. I do miss the buttons on the back but that's not to say the buttons on the S6 are bad or misplaced, I just prefer them on back.
The battery is worse and even with little workarounds it's just not as good as the G3 on that front. Fast Charging and wireless charging help with that but the battery is is biggest downfall in my opinion.
I feel like most of the reviews out their reflect my opinions pretty closely.
S6 is perfect except for RAM management. Its like having a Task manager that is ultra aggressive and closes any and every program in the background. It feels like i have a phone that has 500 mb of RAM. SMH
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S6 is perfect except for RAM management. Its like having a Task manager that is ultra aggressive and closes any and every program in the background. It feels like i have a phone that has 500 mb of RAM. SMH
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The S6 is crazy fast. You should not need a task manager. Android is Linux based and it uses unused ram for disk caching. Here is a great explanation.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Verizon just released the Samsung update that fixes the over agressive ram management. As for the battery, there are some things you can do. I won't go over it all here. Just look it up in the Q&A and general sections.
Are you sure this was a fix. I thought users yesterday were reporting no changes in regards to this? I really would be happy if this turns out true
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nrage23 said:
The S6 is crazy fast. You should not need a task manager. Android is Linux based and it uses unused ram for disk caching. Here is a great explanation.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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You didnt undertand my post. Thanks for trying tho.
Came from a G3 about a week ago and couldn't be happier. I loved my G3 and still find myself double tapping the screen to turn it on the reaching for the buttons on the back, but other than that I couldn't be happier. The size of the G3 got to be a bit cumbersome at times, and the battery life believe or not was worse with the G3. Could not be satisfied with the switch.
My battery BLOWS away my GF's G3. Both took phones off at 6AM. She was dead by 4PM. Mine still has 20% at 10PM. We were shooting HD video and pics all day and uploading. Now hers was stock and there are def issues with the OTA 5.0 on G3 but still.
If you have Cell Standby issues using a huge amount of battery do the fix.
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Are you sure this was a fix. I thought users yesterday were reporting no changes in regards to this? I really would be happy if this turns out true
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If you look at ram usage nothing appears to have changed. What I have noticed though is that I no longer get the screen redraws and sluggish behavior over just a short amount of time. They did something. I don't think we will see the full effect though until we get the next update that closes the memory leak.
I really appreciate the input from everyone. I can't keep 2 phones, but I'm not going to rush and sell my g3.
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Verizon just released the Samsung update that fixes the over agressive ram management. As for the battery, there are some things you can do. I won't go over it all here. Just look it up in the Q&A and general sections.
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Unfortunately this update did not fix the overagressive ram management
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Unfortunately this update did not fix the overagressive ram management
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I don't think it resolved the issue entirely. But I don't have screen redraws anymore. Hopefully the next update that's supposed to close the memory leak will fix it once and for all. I'm kind of disappointed in Google for releasing the pile of garbage that was lollipop.
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I don't think it resolved the issue entirely. But I don't have screen redraws anymore. Hopefully the next update that's supposed to close the memory leak will fix it once and for all. I'm kind of disappointed in Google for releasing the pile of garbage that was lollipop.
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Maybe it improved slightly but most of the time I still get redrawn where I shouldn't. Especially when going back to the launcher.
Im coming from a Moto x 2014 and was amazing and 0 lag.
No i have an 32 gigs s6 but i fighting with the lag.
Sometimes runs smoothly and sometimes lags every time,
I get into recovery a wipe cache and nothing, any idea to fix this?
I have the new 5.1.1 france rom and my model is 920F
Regards.
Can't help you as I don't have the 5.1.1 ROM yet, but have no lag on 5.0.2. The other thing is, lag is subjective. The Moto X 2014 certainly does lag on certain actions such as facebook etc.
If you haven't already, after a ROM update it's always usefull to factory reset if you've backed everything up.
5.1.1 runs nearly equal to 5.0.2 on power saving mode .. mainly the effect is on scrolling. I always used 5.0.2 on power saving as it would suffice
Ok, ill try a factory reset again in 5.1.1
Thankyou
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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Sher The Love said:
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
TheEndHK said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
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Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Sher The Love said:
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Same observation here. The new Material theme makes the scrolling worse on 5.1.1 and also a few other themes does the same detriment to UI fluidity. I had downloaded like 12 different themes and now deleting one by one after testing them out and keeping only those which do not affect fluidity...
I'm not even using Samsung Launcher.. Nova Launcher ftw
No lag out of the ordinary on 5.0.2... Haven't received the new OTA yet
I've found the same - themes can cause noticeable lag.
Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
Sher The Love said:
Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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_Johnito_ said:
Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
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It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
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What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Sher The Love said:
What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Bloatware installed by Samsung. Some of those apps you will never use actually start themselves in the background. Just go see by yourself in your running apps manager.
The app also help you to debloat by colouring known "useless" apps (by useless, I mean nor the phone or the system need them to operate properly)
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Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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It is not lame as custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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zdravkodubravec said:
custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I tend to stay away from root as possible as I am not really experienced enough ... And I hardly find a good tutorial that is really conclusive ... On the other hand every phone I had was chosen because I liked all of the aspects of it ... So I really never had the need for root ... And not to mention one experience when one time I did root ... And it was with S4 ... And in the end it was extremely close to having phone that dose not work ...and bad experience in all that is actually that phone was working as it should before rooting and after it never really did work good ...
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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fdorr said:
Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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Pretty choppy indeed. I guess that depends what you are used to though. Considering the hardware there is no reason to worry, this slugginess will probably be cured soon (via samsung updates or custom roms). But i never suspected my good old nexus 5 would actually be more fluid even at start.
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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I just did. It is working fine for me. Using Material Theme and 5.1.1
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
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I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0
Hi all,
As many of you I'm frustrated by the lags of this update
I'm an user since oreo I've always updated and I never deleted my data since then
I found a way that for me worked to improve my experience with Android 10 I would like to share it
Go to settings
Battery
Adaptative battery
Battery manager (switch it OFF)
Reboot
Same as above
Battery manager (switch it On)
Reboot
Additionaly I've installed tynycore free version ram memory monitor and is running in foreground providing white bar ram usage indicator
I'm not sure which step fixed the issue but now after a week I'm running a smooth experience.
Tyncore dysplay an average of ram usage around 60%
Let me know if it works for you
Good luck
Thanks, that helped with lags a lot!
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
t123321 said:
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
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I didn't care about ram usage before the "workaround" so I can say if there was a huge memory consumption.
But you are right... Memory leaks will use all your ram which can't be set free
A lag can be caused by hundreds reason as cpu consumption or wrong coding... I don't think this can be easily discovered. The resolution could be a without sense trick like this
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
a1291762 said:
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
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OS monitor in my case show 30% of free ram... not far away from tinycore assumption
My phone after 10 days is still usable after steps in post #1
Unfortunately I can't change rom in those days I need both sim working and I don't want fix drawbacks afftecting my job
I've disabled automatic updates and I'll move forward if I'll get good feedback from next updates
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
Cappucinto said:
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
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Happy to read I'm 13 days up without major issues
Your post it's a good confirmation
I'm not confident in your fix. I have tried it but my phone still gets slow between 24 and 48h of not restarting it.
Sadly this did not work on my phone. Memory shows 58% used memory but lag appears after 24hrs. Restart helps.
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
RensoreK said:
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
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I'm happy to help I was just near to downgrade so I can understand
I'm sorry it didn't help everyone
gonna give a try, hope to see it working, i will tell in a week
Kaimilo said:
gonna give a try, hopek to see it working, i will tell in a week
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Let us know
Good luck
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Let us know
Good luck
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for the moment is working smooth, but need more days to see
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
ema93a said:
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
Apologies for a so poor technical approach
so i update, lag has came back after 3 days
Only thing that help this is installing a custom kernl
From today i have new phone,honor 10 lite,bay bay xiaomi newer will get any xiaomi again
joyride76 said:
After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
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I hadn't kept tinycore running but after seeing your message I gave it a go. I was hoping that it would help as a side effect of probing the system.
Interestingly... It showed maybe 30% free on the first day, 20% on the second day and 40% on the third day.
However, on that third day, apps are once again being killed as soon as they hit the background. Not even the Play store could update several apps without dying (after I switched to another app).
I find interesting that when tinycore reports the most "free" memory is when the system behaves the worst. Actual ram is full of cached apps, it's just not apps that are useful (IMO).
I guess it's back to daily reboots for me