I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0
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Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?
Yes absolutely I am in the same boat. I am running the latest M build of CM10.1 and this is driving me nuts. I think this is a ROM problem I ran stock 4.1.2 for a long time and I could go days without a reboot with a big mem kernel.
Maybe apps are using more and more memory as well now? I just don't remember CM being like this it has only been recently that something has gone horribly wrong.
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My mom uses Nexus S running stock 4.1.2 and she also faces the running out of RAM. The phone is damn slow and most of the time is left with only 20MB of free RAM. I was thinking of installing CM 10.1 to see if it helps.
I have the exact same problem with 4.2.X ROMs. My phone runs out of memory and becomes sluggish. If I reboot it would be fine for a day or two and then slow again. This is why I am still in cm 10 stable.
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Do any of have the "hold back button to kill app" activated. This is truly the best and easiest way to kill the app from using the memory.
Also do u guys have ur apps on ur SD card or on the phone memory. Having the apps on the SD card allows for a better responsive phone.
Try a different ROM that has less on it. Especially"Google now" its a memory hog! Some ROMs like Slimbean have to option to not install it when installing the ROM & Gapps.
Install the ROM without extras. If it works fine before ur added apps then it could be an app that is also killing ur memory.
Also if u read ur ROMs thread, people will recommend a certain kernel that works well with it. A newer kernel can & will improve the phone's performance by far... But tread carefully since it can also cause more issues if used improperly.
Lastly this phone is like any other computer, it needs maintenance so make it a simple habit of rebooting it every night just as u go to bed so it can reset and charge the battery properly without anything extra running in the background.
Good luck
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Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.
onmyouji said:
Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.
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I'm running Slim-Bean 4.2.2 on my Nexus S and it's just as bad as CM 10.1. JB was just not meant for a device that is now 2.5 years old.
GB is really where I have seen optimal performance from my device, but CM 9 works pretty well too.
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?
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krymson0 said:
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Wow thanks this app seems a life saver.
krymson0 said:
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Greenify, though seems to work, is one of the apps that gets killed when running out of ram. The apps I'm using to free RAM (Tasker, Greenify, etc) all want to get killed when running out of RAM. :\
Guys just go back to CM10 then you'll have more free ram 4.1.2 is the best os version for our phones!
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Honestly guys try the greenify app it really is magic. Even if greenify gets killed the apps that it has hibernated won't come out of it unless you launch an app. And greenify will start again automatically it won't remain killed.
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Greenify + Seeder
Matr1x kernel
Whenever i use game killer on an aosp rom and when i look for the values it reboots. i have tried on paranoid android and liquidsmooth and same thing happens. is there any specific settings on how to use it with an aosp rom? it works fine on touchwiz. any help with this will be gladly appreciated.
Did you happen to find out how to fix this?
since1876 said:
Did you happen to find out how to fix this?
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Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
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picarito said:
Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
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I have used it on kairosoft games and never had any problems with it so I can't help you out.
Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.
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Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.
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You know the old saying "Doc it hurts when I do this" .
Well don't do that then....
If your RAM is half full consistently, then your ROM is broken. The Android (Linux) OS memory manager strives to keep the RAM 80% used /full all the time so that apps load faster. If its less than that you either don't have any apps installed or, you dorkeked something. Lots of times people try to use auto task killers, which work against the OS and cause much memory thrashing and gnashing of teeth and resultant poor performance. Having 60% of the RAM free might make you feel better, but it won;t make your phone faster, just the opposite.
How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
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trtlja said:
How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
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You can try to install the hate kernel, because their cpu scheduling is different, it may improve your experience.
trtlja said:
How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
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I haven't found an Oreo ROM for 4C that equals a Nougat ROM ( for example, AEX or RR) in terms of speed and lagness.
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I haven't found an Oreo ROM for 4C that equals a Nougat ROM ( for example, AEX or RR) in terms of speed and lagness.
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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Do you have those videos? I'm curious (pm me if you cant post them here).
Tried with 1.5b hate kernel...laggines is still present.
Cdroid maintener Vovan77 will not support this Rom anymore.
Now I am on RR and there is less lags but it is present.
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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Thanks, man, I got your link
But messing in the Settings, menus and that kind of stuff on a fresh installation seems to me the same as in Nougat. On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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True...
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Well, I'm not really complaining about Oreo, I know it was a hard work for its developers and builders and all the enthusiastic guys involved. The real accomplish was to be able to install and use Oreo for Mi 4C, almost bug-free. There are many alternatives to Oreo for Mi4C, even now, when devs are leaving its boat for other devices. MIUI 10 it's on its way, but LOS 14.1 is still developing - great work!
Personally, I'm using latest AEX Nougat and I'm happy.
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Thanks, man, I got your link
But messing in the Settings, menus and that kind of stuff on a fresh installation seems to me the same as in Nougat. On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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Every Oreo rom that ive tried lagged even in the UI, especially when switching the wifi, data etc... I didnt try HateKernel tho
Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603894192
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > xxxx
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hi Gourcuff14.
I have tried to run this rom, but it hangs on "G" logo (longer than half an hour). Installation was without error (but first I had to avoid error 7).
What version of TWRP are You using?
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Hi Gourcuff14.
I have tried to run this rom, but it hangs on "G" logo (longer than half an hour). Installation was without error (but first I had to avoid error 7).
What version of TWRP are You using?
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Hello 1q1q. I've been using
TWRP 3.2.3-0_libra.img
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=3700668719832241315
Try updating firmware if you are still on an old one but that generally shows up during install.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/#stable
Gapps
https://opengapps.org/
Hi Gourcuff 14.
Thanks for yours tips. It was necessary to wipe also data (internal storage) to avoid bootloop. All apps, contacts restored.
I'm giving up - no dialer during incoming call.
LineageOS ftw
I use LineageOS found here for some half a year without any issues as a daily driver.
The only two things that i found missing are no vibration and the fact i can not find a way to activate Camera2API, so i can not use Gcam mods. But these are not really an issue tbh.
Gourcuff14 said:
Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603894192
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hello again
I've downgraded to oreo crdroid and the battery life has improved as I expected. Is the pie upgrade draining anyone elses battery?
Thank you x
Vovan77 has updated
crDroidAndroid-9.0-20190626-libra-v5.5.zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117903079
crDroidAndroid-v5.X
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=288349
I've been catching wind of people mentioning different versions of the mk2000 kernel working best for them on Oreo. In my personal experience flashing mk2000 v2.0. Works quite well for me. I member reading someone saying that a beta version of the 2.2 worked good for them. But for the life of me can't find where I read that. I want to say it was beta 14. In my experience 2.1 and 2.2 have been very unreliable. I even tried the 2.2 build2 by Phenix using the Clang compiler.
In my experience my phone has never run better while using V2.0 on Oreo. Even compared to Nougat. However I probably wasn't flashing it right.
I know next to nothing about android. I just recently learned you are supposed to flash magisk after flashing the kernel. I have only done this procedure in the specific versions listed above.
The LG V20 is my first smartphone. And I must say it has been quite a nightmare. The only redeeming factor is that after two years of using it. I've figured out how to make it sound decent.
I digress... What versions of the kernel have worked best for you? Can you go around flashing away different versions without messing things up?
Good luck!
I've been using the stable 2.2 "re-upload" version for my VS995 on AO oreo for a while now. It is the one that has given me the least issues. Wish I had more info for you, but honestly it was just a LOT of trial and error to find what worked for me... Don't know why and I'm done trying to figure it out
All I can say is good luck. None of them are perfect for me. This version has the occasional crash of an app in the background but that seems to be it, even after many months of heavy use. So if you mean "has the least bugs" when you say "working best" then that is my answer.
The version I am talking about is located here by the way:
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=297449
Just make backups and try them all out... why not, ya know?
Not sure what issues you guys have been having my phone has been great.
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Right now I'm using mk2000 2.2 beta 34 kernel and it gives me a way smoother experience than 2.2 or 2.1 stable. It's paired with 20b TWN by reza_xdv.
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This was the post i was looking for. Flashed the kernel and Magisk. The phone really cooks! In a good way. Performance wise and heat wise lol. Only under load. I feel like I have a good phone finely. It's only been 3 years. Now if I can only get my spell check to work.
@xSodxManx. Thanks a lot for the heads up on this one. I'll look into it.
You can also check version compiled by Phoenix591
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117931114
I guess I'm back to 2.0. My alarm service crashed and I was late for work. First time ever. I'm not 100% sure it was the kernel but I'm almost positive as my phone started exhibiting strange behavior pryor to the battery swap. I even rebooted before going to sleep. I was charging a new Perfine 10000mAh battery. I have read reviews that it made some customers phone unstable. I understand how important clean power is in any electrical system. In phones the battery seems to be the only component in the powersupply that delivers a clean voltage. It's entirely possible that the balancing system in the new battery screwed things up on the first charge.
Qron said:
You can also check version compiled by Phoenix591
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117931114
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I haven't had much luck with that. I didn't like the way the phone booted. Then I got a kernel panic and jumped ship.
I'm still struggling with this. However I think I have discovered something. I cannot find any sort of installation instruction from the official MK2000 thread. I originally made the assumption that clearing Dalvik cache and cash in TWRP was sufficient enough. However it seems that that doesn't clear the app cache that can be found in system Settings.
After having issues trying the other MK2000 versions, I decided to revert back to 2.0. After doing so the system still ran like crap, until I cleared the cache in system settings. I have now achieved system stability and performance I was only able to achieve through a factory reset.
The complete [installation / upgrade / downgrade] procedure is as follows.
1. Flash kernel zip.
2. Flash magisk NOT version 2.2
3. Clear Dalvik cache / Cashe in TWRP
4. Clear app cache in system settings.
For now I'm sticking with 2.0. However perhaps when I get board I will try the other mentioned versions.
I am particularly interested in the mysterious Stendro re-upload. It did give interesting results.
I've put my V20 through some grueling real world tests. Testing the following Kernel versions:
MK2000 V2.0
MK2000 V2.2 Beta 34
MK2000 V2.2 PHXCLANG2-rebuild
MK2000 V2.2 Stendro re-upload
Stock Kernel
I was running the following programs for the test:
Google maps (driving directions)
Google assistant
USB Audio player pro (FLAC player, with dedicated audio driver)
Flud (torrent software)
Messages (sms)
Contacts
I set all cores to performance in Kernel Auditor
In a nutshell I can see no difference between reliability between the MK2000 versions. I would recommend using ether the Beta34 or the PHXCLANG. I find they both lag in different ways but equally so. During the testing I did run into some issues where the music would stop playing or the navigation stoped. Aside from noticing the second screen getting killed. I believe this is all due to the LMK not the Kernel, which sounds like a bad idea to me but what do I know.
Then I went back to the stock kernel. Oh boy! I forgot how slow this phone can be. It brought back feelings of nostalgia. To a time when I was afraid to root my first android smartphone. And utterly completely frustrated and disappointed with it. My dispatcher called me 2 times in a row and a friend shortly after. My phone never even displayed the answer screen.
I had heard rumors that there were problems with the MK2000 kernel. I remember the words "crashing in the background". I would like to be informed of the issues it may possess.
During my initial test of the stock kernel. I ran into the issue where the music stoped. However when going back to the app, instead of the app being reset to the state it was when first opened. The app was paused precisely where the music stoped. Also I think the DAC sounds better on stock. It could be because my ears got a chance to rest over the weekend. These seem to be the only differences thus far. I'm going to continue testing stock kernel and see if I notice anything different.
It's been a couple days running the stock kernel and I have to say it's been quite an interesting experience. I had to uninstall Google or revert back to the original version. And after doing so voice input and Google Assistant have been working better than ever. I still believe the DAC sounds better. I recall being amazed with if the difference between MK 2000 nougat and MK 2000 Oreo.
I'm starting to believe that you have to do a factory reset after flashing the kernel. So I feel all of these this testing is almost for nothing. And would also explain why different users are getting different results. I am getting a lot of bugs with apps such as titanium backup. Where are the app list doesn't load. And I had an issue where LG music service was disabled and I couldn't enable it. The LG music app is apparently the only way to select a ringtone or notification sound. Which I'm very upset about. I was able to fix it by installing an APK.
I've been on A-O_VS995_20C_1.3.1.zip with VS995_v2.2-mk2000.zip for a LONG time. Used to have some heat issues intermittently... Afer i installed Greenify my heat issues have gone away... phone is snappy, stable, and battery has been really good.
Flash order:
Clean (wipe cache, dalvic, system) 3 times minimum.
Flash rom
Flash kernel
Flash magisk
Reboot.
Use the correct version of TWRP.
( no issues as mentioned two above.)
Not exactly what you asked for, but apparently a promising kernel is almost out that you might be interested in trying out: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/bounty-kernel-h990ds-stock-oreo-t3952667
EDIT: disclaimer, I haven't tried it myself yet, and would love to hear from people when it comes to fruition
the clang variant is superior in performance
Hi all,
As many of you I'm frustrated by the lags of this update
I'm an user since oreo I've always updated and I never deleted my data since then
I found a way that for me worked to improve my experience with Android 10 I would like to share it
Go to settings
Battery
Adaptative battery
Battery manager (switch it OFF)
Reboot
Same as above
Battery manager (switch it On)
Reboot
Additionaly I've installed tynycore free version ram memory monitor and is running in foreground providing white bar ram usage indicator
I'm not sure which step fixed the issue but now after a week I'm running a smooth experience.
Tyncore dysplay an average of ram usage around 60%
Let me know if it works for you
Good luck
Thanks, that helped with lags a lot!
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
t123321 said:
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
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I didn't care about ram usage before the "workaround" so I can say if there was a huge memory consumption.
But you are right... Memory leaks will use all your ram which can't be set free
A lag can be caused by hundreds reason as cpu consumption or wrong coding... I don't think this can be easily discovered. The resolution could be a without sense trick like this
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
a1291762 said:
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
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OS monitor in my case show 30% of free ram... not far away from tinycore assumption
My phone after 10 days is still usable after steps in post #1
Unfortunately I can't change rom in those days I need both sim working and I don't want fix drawbacks afftecting my job
I've disabled automatic updates and I'll move forward if I'll get good feedback from next updates
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
Cappucinto said:
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
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Happy to read I'm 13 days up without major issues
Your post it's a good confirmation
I'm not confident in your fix. I have tried it but my phone still gets slow between 24 and 48h of not restarting it.
Sadly this did not work on my phone. Memory shows 58% used memory but lag appears after 24hrs. Restart helps.
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
RensoreK said:
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
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I'm happy to help I was just near to downgrade so I can understand
I'm sorry it didn't help everyone
gonna give a try, hope to see it working, i will tell in a week
Kaimilo said:
gonna give a try, hopek to see it working, i will tell in a week
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Let us know
Good luck
joyride76 said:
Let us know
Good luck
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for the moment is working smooth, but need more days to see
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
ema93a said:
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
Apologies for a so poor technical approach
so i update, lag has came back after 3 days
Only thing that help this is installing a custom kernl
From today i have new phone,honor 10 lite,bay bay xiaomi newer will get any xiaomi again
joyride76 said:
After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
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I hadn't kept tinycore running but after seeing your message I gave it a go. I was hoping that it would help as a side effect of probing the system.
Interestingly... It showed maybe 30% free on the first day, 20% on the second day and 40% on the third day.
However, on that third day, apps are once again being killed as soon as they hit the background. Not even the Play store could update several apps without dying (after I switched to another app).
I find interesting that when tinycore reports the most "free" memory is when the system behaves the worst. Actual ram is full of cached apps, it's just not apps that are useful (IMO).
I guess it's back to daily reboots for me