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i dont really know too much about AOSP rom's but from what i hear they are very basic.. what makes that so great? i really have no idea since ive never used a AOSP rom. just wanted to know cuz i always hear ppl talking about how great they are. thanks
They are true Android. Built clean from source code from the AOSP website and modified to work with the specific phone. Basically its how every Android phone should come but each manufacturer likes to mess with the software and add their own stuff.
i agree, AOSP is very minimalistic, thats why i prefer them over an other rom
They're fast. Pretty much the main reason anyone switches.
Like the unlock screens this phone came with, both of them sucked. The puzzle was annoying because I would miss the swipe about 15% of the time while the glass unlock screen was just bad looking. I don't see the big deal about AOSP seeing as i replace pretty much anything AOSP/stock anyway(messenger, lockscreen, browser etc). I get it's there for the simplicity and stability but it's just boring if you ask me.
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They're fast. Pretty much the main reason anyone switches.
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This.
Performance on aosp blows touchwiz out of the water any day.
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This.
Performance on aosp blows touchwiz out of the water any day.
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ANYTHING blows touchwiz out of the water.
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ANYTHING blows touchwiz out of the water.
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TW4 isn't bad :]
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TW4 isn't bad :]
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Visually, its a huge improvement over tw3 but that's only the launcher. The only things I like about tw are the music player, task manager, and calculator. That's it. Not worth the sacrifice of performance imo.
We (maybe just I) want aosp because it frees us from samsungs untimely and poorly written source code releases.
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AOSP is pure google experience. AOSP ROM's are google experience with developer tweaks.
It doesn't require many approval processes, so it runs the latest version of the O/S usually before phone manufacturers can get them out
It is very slim and minimalistic with it being highly customizable.
It comes minus any bloat, all source code is available, full wiki with instructions to remove any portion you want, teh ability to grab the source code and compile it yourself..etc.
Here is an example as far as bloat goes, I had the thunderbolt for a bit, CM7 checked in around 80ish mb. A sense rom was going around 400 mbish.
I'm assuming then that the RAM usage by the OS will decrease dramatically from what it is now?
Its crazy to me that this device sets aside almost 200mb for the OS anyway, yet on startup, another 200 is used up immediately (I rebooted and cleared memory just to see).
Just seems like a rather large footprint.
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I'm assuming then that the RAM usage by the OS will decrease dramatically from what it is now?
Its crazy to me that this device sets aside almost 200mb for the OS anyway, yet on startup, another 200 is used up immediately (I rebooted and cleared memory just to see).
Just seems like a rather large footprint.
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Android isn't like your pc operating system. Unused ram is wasted ram. Apps are loaded in the background so they open quicker when you use them. When the ram is too low it kills off some processes.
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Android isn't like your pc operating system. Unused ram is wasted ram. Apps are loaded in the background so they open quicker when you use them. When the ram is too low it kills off some processes.
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Yea, I saw that response coming. I get how it works.
However, if you had more RAM to start with, more applications could be cached at a time which means your device will be opening more apps quickly. That's why I rebooted my phone before I provided numbers, because I'm asking about the RAM that the OS leaves free to actually do the caching.
Are you really trying to tell me that Android is so good that it wouldn't benefit from having more RAM available to it on startup?
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Yea, I saw that response coming. I get how it works.
However, if you had more RAM to start with, more applications could be cached at a time which means your device will be opening more apps quickly. That's why I rebooted my phone before I provided numbers, because I'm asking about the RAM that the OS leaves free to actually do the caching.
Are you really trying to tell me that Android is so good that it wouldn't benefit from having more RAM available to it on startup?
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No I get what you mean. This phone certainly does suffer from a lack of ram and aosp will help with that.
However, rebooting doesn't really tell you much about ram used by the os because it begins caching apps before it fully boots if I remember correctly.
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Lol, the more free RAM, the more efficient and faster your phone runs: for example, my old G1 with its limited RAM would freeze for 3 minutes if you tried its phone dial app, mind you it would happen almost randomly as the phone swapped out memory, oc'ing the g1 CPU made no difference since the bottleneck was the memory size. So, the more ram you have the better off you are.
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Typically the AOSP roms will be packaged together with a custom kernel built on mtd/yaffs which I believe to be the largest performance enhancer. The fact that the AOSP rom is minimal and has all the benefits as Utnapishtia mentioned just makes it that much faster because it's not burdened down with unnecessary garbage.
Im really sorry for asking but, Ive exhausted all other search methods to find an answer. What can I do about the extremely low ram availability? Ive got like, on a good day 110 out of 329mb available. Is this normal? Ive tried reading up on flashing a new kernel but Im not positive this will fix the issue.
Im running the uvkg4 2.3.4 with the kernel that came with it. Go launcher sits on top of that using about 18mb. Maybe Im just expecting to much from my phone?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Even if its to yell at me cause I missed something while searching on here.
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Dude i think its a usual problem i have a galaxy fit and i also have aost 100mb-130mb of free RAM out of 280.
So, May be we are expecting too much from our galaxies!!
However in a HTC phone( i dont remember the model) it has 784MB RAM!!!...
the best way to free Ram is close useless running apps and uninstalling them!
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My wife has an LG Optimus for Tmo...and she's getting like, 261 of 418. The difference seems only slight but, I'd like all the ram I can possibly have. I use the built in task manager to keep up with running services. TB for freezing or uninstalling. I don't have a whole heck of a lot of things left to kill that would equal 100mb. Maybe 60 at most.
I don't know. I am still interested in the whole kernel thing though. I've read what a kernel is, and is supposed to do. I just don't understand what exactly the benefit is of flashing one over. Like drhonks, I've read all about it everywhere...for the life of me can't find what the exact benefits are. Same thing with the modem. I'd like to flash that too to fix the constant drop of data connection even though it reads 4g, but I don't know that that will fix that (lots of thats) problem either.
Does it matter? 100mb of free ram is the same as 200mb free isn't it? It's all unused. with GB, it has a pretty good system for managing tasks, so I didn't think it would be a problem.
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Well, that's true. Even while trying to hurt my phone it doesn't bog down or lag out due to low ram. Thank you for the insight.
Also, with the modem thing..should I open up another question for this? Its something that's now becoming quite the hassle, it drops data way to frequently to be normal.
I read somewhere once that having lower ram is actually a bad thing. The android operating system stores information on apps to help it launch those apps faster. When you clear it out it takes longer to launch because it does not have the information stored anymore.
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For the most part I only have the necessary things required to make my phone work turned on. Aside from Go launcher, and a couple widgets (1-4mb a piece) running. I'm just stumped on where the rest of the memory is, or what's using it.
Are you getting a bunch of launcher reloads? If so, then you might wanna consider switching roms. I tried a few rom/launcher combinations and stuck with audiophile ftw with the newest init.d pack. Stopped my launcher reloads unless I was using a really ram intensive app like plants vs. zombies.
The ram operates like on any computer. if it is cleared, you need to rebuild your workspace cache. If you clear the ram on a phone, you will have to wait a bit longer for the cache to rebuild. It's minimal though. unless you get an error or an fc, I would say there is no need to clear your ram on the phone, especially with the great built in task manager. For games zombies or pewpew, yea, it makes sense to clear it prior to playing, but the system should do it for you anyway, shouldn't it?
Also, do what fbis suggested. Will make a difference
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Yeah honestly you think about what takes the most ram in use stuff like browsers,skype,youtube etcc...but of course you Wont be using all of them at the same time!
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After using my phone for a while, I usually have 60-80mb free. Just different services running etc... Phone doesn't slow down, never have any real memory problems, and the only time I sometimes get a launcher reload is after playing a memory hungry game like PvZ or Gun Bros, and even then it's pretty rare.
Unless it's malfunctioning, those apps sitting in memory will just close if something needs it, you can see this first hand if you view your free memory right after playing a game, I usually see anywhere between 140-200mb free. It then gradually goes down as I use other apps and as some of them auto sync etc.
Except in the case of a buggy app, Android seems to be pretty good at managing memory.
I believe some of the low memory paranoia would go away if we had a task manager like Windows has where it tells you what memory is Cached, Available, and Free. I'd be freaking out as my netbook only has 3 mb free out of 2 gigs right now if Windows didn't tell me the other info lol.
Yea, I'm not getting any heavy launcher reloads. Even if I'm playing a Gameloft game everything seems to run quite smooth. I guess I was just freaking out about the numbers.
I thank you all for the responses and help. I think I'll do a little more research on flashing modems and such before I ask anything about that. There's a helluva lot of information to read about.
As what everybody said here, the 100ish MB free RAM is fine. Android caches the processes so it'll load up faster when you open an app again. Of course, if you clear your RAM, you clear these caches too. When Android needs more memory, it'll kill an app to provide for more memory.
Also, do NOT use a task killer. I can't emphasize that enough. Using that will kill your necessary apps, which will eventually cause your phone to do random reboots. Many people have reported that.
I've got a sgs+ I updated to android 2.3.5 from 2.3.3 it improved the overall lagginess abit. I have tried almost everything not too difficult to smoothen things out because I'm not really into custom rom kinda deep stuff. For instance, temple run, lags every 10 secs and I fail. Angry birds? Same thing. My buddy with SGS "classic" does not have any of these kind of problems.
Ps: sorry for being NOOB
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I've got a sgs+ I updated to android 2.3.5 from 2.3.3 it improved the overall lagginess abit. I have tried almost everything not too difficult to smoothen things out because I'm not really into custom rom kinda deep stuff. For instance, temple run, lags every 10 secs and I fail. Angry birds? Same thing. My buddy with SGS "classic" does not have any of these kind of problems.
Ps: sorry for being NOOB
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If you want to have a better gaming experience (no lag..) you can either buy a phone with a stronger cpu, or root (which is really easy) and see if there is any custom kernels available for your device. With a custom rom and kernel you can make your phone more powerful than it is by increasing the speeds of your cpu. Phone's that don't have enough power don't play certain games well. I know you said you aren't into roms... It's really not that complicated. There is no way to make your phone more powerful, than to root and install a custom rom and kernel... Hope that helped.
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If you want to have a better gaming experience (no lag..) you can either buy a phone with a stronger cpu, or root (which is really easy) and see if there is any custom kernels available for your device. With a custom rom and kernel you can make your phone more powerful than it is by increasing the speeds of your cpu. Phone's that don't have enough power don't play certain games well. I know you said you aren't into roms... It's really not that complicated. There is no way to make your phone more powerful, than to root and install a custom rom and kernel... Hope that helped.
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The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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Thanks for this. I'm trying to get my 10 helpful posts so I can post on threads.. Didn't know what exact specs were...lol. XDA is great! Tks for correcting that!
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When was the last time you turned your phone off?
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When was the last time you turned your phone off?
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Yeah my phone too can get pretty laggy crashy and unstable when I am using it allot without turning it off.
ICS on my Samsung Gio lagged allot so I had to switch back to an earlyer version which increased my CPU performance by 400%, (however, graphic performance change was almost negligible)
You could also try something like a2sd, if you already have something like that your SDcard might be slow. (I suggest you get some confirmation on this one from more experienced android users before actually going and buying a new one, since I am quite new to this whole android stuff).
Hope I could be of service,
R.
You probably have a lot of apps running at the background. Try installing a 3rd party app manager and end all apps. I mean all. Should work. If not then your phone has a problem. SGS+ SHOULDN'T lag behind the SGS not unless the SGS is rooted.
What is your "better phone for games"? Will it be released for ever?
Buy an iPhone for 0 lag gaming.. Android has some lags.
If you don't want to root and install ROMs then pretty much your only option is to uninstall unnecessary services and apps. Try uninstalling an app, testing the game, and keep uninstalling untill you know which app is possibly the offending one.
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do a reboot,and use 3rd party task killer to see what had auto bootup and slowing down ur phone
My dad barely let me root to make a backup before updating. (my phone but still) And then there is warranty, I already have problems with GPS. I'm probably not going to do that. Thanks for trying, thanked.
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The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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I tried advanced task killer, but it really didn't make a difference. I think there are some self-restarters out there. And with app called watchdog, I didn't saw any active apps. Thanked
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If u root the thing and want to restore to factory default for warranty purpose, theres always odin. Just few clicks away and your phone is fresh default like its only been minutes its out of factory.
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If you don't want to root and install ROMs then pretty much your only option is to uninstall unnecessary services and apps. Try uninstalling an app, testing the game, and keep uninstalling untill you know which app is possibly the offending one.
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I did a factory reset. Then I tried to play something, it helped, probably the most. But there still was some lag? My friends stock non-rooted sgs classic runs better with like 70 apps installed.
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What is your "better phone for games"? Will it be released for ever?
Buy an iPhone for 0 lag gaming.. Android has some lags.
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I like the customizing of android. I can make my phone look like IPhone but not other way around.
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Yeah my phone too can get pretty laggy crashy and unstable when I am using it allot without turning it off.
ICS on my Samsung Gio lagged allot so I had to switch back to an earlyer version which increased my CPU performance by 400%, (however, graphic performance change was almost negligible)
You could also try something like a2sd, if you already have something like that your SDcard might be slow. (I suggest you get some confirmation on this one from more experienced android users before actually going and buying a new one, since I am quite new to this whole android stuff).
Hope I could be of service,
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Rebooting helps for some 10 minutes, I really don't want to reboot that often. My phone goes 40-50fps but lags 1/4 seconds every 10 secs. I sometimes get bigger fps drops when playing reckless racing 2. I guess that is for dual core processors, but mostly it runs fairly well apart from those little lags
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Sigh...... advanced task killers or any of them are just a pile or **it, they just use up ram, on android we all know theres no way to close all apps, they'll just keep opening anyway and they can't close most apps. It drains your battery and has your processors trying harder with a ram drainage. Absolutely USELESS.
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Sigh...... advanced task killers or any of them are just a pile or **it, they just use up ram, on android we all know theres no way to close all apps, they'll just keep opening anyway and they can't close most apps. It drains your battery and has your processors trying harder with a ram drainage. Absolutely USELESS.
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I knew that, that's why I used watchdog. It shows how much CPU power everything uses. Ram is there too but that is kinda useless.
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dear user it may occur to you that sometimes when you apply a custom rom to a phone it is now built right for that phone because of all the different specs to that phone so it would be best advised to stick with the set defaults if you don't realy know what you are doind (like me) but also you could try and root is (universil androrot) and then use some programs like memory booster or just un install some apps from your device all together so free up some of the phones memorry.
hope it helped daveveej.
Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?
Yes absolutely I am in the same boat. I am running the latest M build of CM10.1 and this is driving me nuts. I think this is a ROM problem I ran stock 4.1.2 for a long time and I could go days without a reboot with a big mem kernel.
Maybe apps are using more and more memory as well now? I just don't remember CM being like this it has only been recently that something has gone horribly wrong.
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My mom uses Nexus S running stock 4.1.2 and she also faces the running out of RAM. The phone is damn slow and most of the time is left with only 20MB of free RAM. I was thinking of installing CM 10.1 to see if it helps.
I have the exact same problem with 4.2.X ROMs. My phone runs out of memory and becomes sluggish. If I reboot it would be fine for a day or two and then slow again. This is why I am still in cm 10 stable.
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Do any of have the "hold back button to kill app" activated. This is truly the best and easiest way to kill the app from using the memory.
Also do u guys have ur apps on ur SD card or on the phone memory. Having the apps on the SD card allows for a better responsive phone.
Try a different ROM that has less on it. Especially"Google now" its a memory hog! Some ROMs like Slimbean have to option to not install it when installing the ROM & Gapps.
Install the ROM without extras. If it works fine before ur added apps then it could be an app that is also killing ur memory.
Also if u read ur ROMs thread, people will recommend a certain kernel that works well with it. A newer kernel can & will improve the phone's performance by far... But tread carefully since it can also cause more issues if used improperly.
Lastly this phone is like any other computer, it needs maintenance so make it a simple habit of rebooting it every night just as u go to bed so it can reset and charge the battery properly without anything extra running in the background.
Good luck
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Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.
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Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.
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I'm running Slim-Bean 4.2.2 on my Nexus S and it's just as bad as CM 10.1. JB was just not meant for a device that is now 2.5 years old.
GB is really where I have seen optimal performance from my device, but CM 9 works pretty well too.
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?
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I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Wow thanks this app seems a life saver.
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I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Greenify, though seems to work, is one of the apps that gets killed when running out of ram. The apps I'm using to free RAM (Tasker, Greenify, etc) all want to get killed when running out of RAM. :\
Guys just go back to CM10 then you'll have more free ram 4.1.2 is the best os version for our phones!
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Honestly guys try the greenify app it really is magic. Even if greenify gets killed the apps that it has hibernated won't come out of it unless you launch an app. And greenify will start again automatically it won't remain killed.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
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I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0