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[Q] Low RAM?

Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!

If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?

androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.

eejin2 said:
must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.

then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?

eejin2 said:
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)

androidlover123 said:
huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....

Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.

abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.

androidlover123 said:
Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?

eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!

androidlover123 said:
ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.

i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.

Xoom is sluggish, even after a wipe

So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks

eatonjb said:
So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
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Stock is the most sluggish. On top of overclocked cpu, I use overclocked gpu kernel as well and the ADW EX launcher. That's a prescription for butter smoothness.

i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?

eatonjb said:
i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
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Even when you get everything set up the way you want it, things get laggy sometimes.
I do the following: reboot to refresh the system, free up ram by various means, including making sure that no memory hogs are running in the background, etc...Autostart root app helps to keep stuff from starting at or just after boot,which helps you manage your memory too.

Also make sure you are using the interactive (or lagfree if you so desire) governor for your kernel. That solved my laggyness problem with my refurb.
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Hi
What is lagfree? Is it a kernel? How to get that?
Is there a good app to show what is using the most memory or resources so i can uninstall? I use advanced task killer and it kills my apps every now and then and performance improves but they comr back even thougj i didnt run them. How can i prevent apps from loading into mem except when i launch. I went to their settings and disables anything that runs on interval but they still run.
Thanks.
Note; currently i am 3.2.1 rooted.

As I said, Auto Starts is a great app to control what runs automatically. I also use Active apps to show me what is running so I can close it if needed. There are a number of good root apps that can do the trick. Why not check out the list in the Xoom Heaven thread at the top of page one of the General Forum.

Thanks for the reply I will give that a try...
I noticed having a lot of open browser tabs kills the speed big time.
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Even bone stock the Xoom is not sluggish. I would say there is a problem or you did not fully wipe the device. On some devices the kernel could potentially cause a problem.

If memory is not super low, connection speeds is usually the culprit.

[Q] Memory leak, battery problems, and screen issues.

First, my phone has a memory leak. Like, after using it for a while, even an hour or two, the available memory will go to 0. I have tried ending all apps that could be suspect, but all of the memory being used that is reported by the settings is much less than what is necessary for there to be <10MB of available memory. I even try to end as many programs as I can, but this eventually happens after some usage. Before you ask, no, I am not using task-killers, and I only notice this and end apps when whatever is leaking is starting. The phone will not effectively end enough applications to free the space. Almost every app will say "restarting" on the "running" page, and none will be seen on the "cached" page. It will result in the phone locking up and rebooting. Also, this happens during high CPU usage (might be a memory issue though), like while updating apps.
Second, my battery life since the OTA has dropped significantly. Now, I am lucky if I get 6-8 hours of battery life while occasionally using the phone and listening to music a lot. The screen seems to be taking most of the power (~65%), and the brightness is regulated by JuiceDefender. I have tried to automatically set it without JD, and it was worse in battery life. It is on much less than the wifi, yet is somehow taking up far more battery. Second place is the Android OS/System/Mediaserver combined (~20%), for whatever reason. I have tried using the Battery Calibration application multiple times and it has not helped. Disabling JD makes battery issues worse. I have looked for wakelocks, but besides the charger, I found none that looked suspicious/non-OS related. See attached file for battery info.
Third, for some reason, the dead pixels came back? Now, it looked like at first there was a shape of a butterfly in spotted dead pixels. Most of those localizations disappeared (or, the "dead" pixels came back to "life"), but a few grew, and now I have somewhere over 100 dead pixels. A few of those have shrunk, but it is still an eyesore. I can provide pictures if it will help. I'm not sure why it is doing this.
Note: all of these issues have started since the ICS OTA. I reflashed the stock OS before doing the OTA.
Any help would be greatly appreciated for any of these!

Mine
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Yeah mine is like that or worse if I have wifi/screen on as much as you do.

The drain is pretty steady even with minimal usage

Any ideas on what could be causing this?
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try FXZ stock ICS
freeze all unneccessary apps ...
dont install any other extra apps (downloadin from market)
try to keep minimum apps..
stay as much on 2G/Wi-Fi
ur battery should last for atleast more than 18 hrs for moderate use (else it will drain dependin on how heavy u use)
if this doesn't work then u'll need expert advice
& remember you'll get rarely above 24 hrs (usage matters a lot)
correct me if m wrong ...

I am also facing the same issues. I have the latest STOCK ICS.
Huge memory leak! Launcher has to restart on every unlock barely 20-7 mbs free!! and battery also drains pretty fast, although not when in sleep.

try "fast reboot"
it will clear some memory

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try "fast reboot"
it will clear some memory
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Yes. thats temp.fix but any way to perm. fix this??
btw, Which rom are you using?? I just d/led CM10 rom, Is that better than current Stock ICS?

go for paranoid android ROM by alteredlikeness
it is the best accordin to my needs
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shardul.phatak said:
go for paranoid android ROM by alteredlikeness
it is the best accordin to my needs
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I just installed the CM10 Rom, Not sure about Paranoid Android, looks like too many things don't work yet. Alpha stages..
You are using it daily?? I want something stable for a while..

yep
its good n so as cm10
bt i prefer paranoid
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[Q] [Help] phone reboots when using game killer

Whenever i use game killer on an aosp rom and when i look for the values it reboots. i have tried on paranoid android and liquidsmooth and same thing happens. is there any specific settings on how to use it with an aosp rom? it works fine on touchwiz. any help with this will be gladly appreciated.

Did you happen to find out how to fix this?

since1876 said:
Did you happen to find out how to fix this?
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Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
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picarito said:
Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
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I have used it on kairosoft games and never had any problems with it so I can't help you out.

Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.

since1876 said:
Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.
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You know the old saying "Doc it hurts when I do this" .
Well don't do that then....
If your RAM is half full consistently, then your ROM is broken. The Android (Linux) OS memory manager strives to keep the RAM 80% used /full all the time so that apps load faster. If its less than that you either don't have any apps installed or, you dorkeked something. Lots of times people try to use auto task killers, which work against the OS and cause much memory thrashing and gnashing of teeth and resultant poor performance. Having 60% of the RAM free might make you feel better, but it won;t make your phone faster, just the opposite.

[Q] Why is my N5 so slow ?

I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...

mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1

Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.

I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way

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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...

daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?

I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.

What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?

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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x

yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?

Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)

Memory issue
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.

daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla

Char_G said:
What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.

daedric said:
And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2

I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0