Xoom is sluggish, even after a wipe - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks

eatonjb said:
So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks
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Stock is the most sluggish. On top of overclocked cpu, I use overclocked gpu kernel as well and the ADW EX launcher. That's a prescription for butter smoothness.

i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?

eatonjb said:
i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
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Even when you get everything set up the way you want it, things get laggy sometimes.
I do the following: reboot to refresh the system, free up ram by various means, including making sure that no memory hogs are running in the background, etc...Autostart root app helps to keep stuff from starting at or just after boot,which helps you manage your memory too.

Also make sure you are using the interactive (or lagfree if you so desire) governor for your kernel. That solved my laggyness problem with my refurb.
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What is lagfree? Is it a kernel? How to get that?
Is there a good app to show what is using the most memory or resources so i can uninstall? I use advanced task killer and it kills my apps every now and then and performance improves but they comr back even thougj i didnt run them. How can i prevent apps from loading into mem except when i launch. I went to their settings and disables anything that runs on interval but they still run.
Thanks.
Note; currently i am 3.2.1 rooted.

As I said, Auto Starts is a great app to control what runs automatically. I also use Active apps to show me what is running so I can close it if needed. There are a number of good root apps that can do the trick. Why not check out the list in the Xoom Heaven thread at the top of page one of the General Forum.

Thanks for the reply I will give that a try...
I noticed having a lot of open browser tabs kills the speed big time.
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Even bone stock the Xoom is not sluggish. I would say there is a problem or you did not fully wipe the device. On some devices the kernel could potentially cause a problem.

If memory is not super low, connection speeds is usually the culprit.

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Infuse is getting slower and slower?

Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
Mine seems to be getting laddy. Cant really tell for sure yet why. Apps open slower, such as root explorer and some others.....
Mine too, I have all the same apps installed sense I got it and I font know why but its getting laggy. I have it rooted and has stock. I restart then its on for couple of hours then gets laggy, and I check the processing nothing out of the ordinary.
Sometimes a reboot every once in a while can give a fresh start
Yeah. Im still new at this. Im not rooted and on stock rom. For some reason my phone crashes.
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
slider2828 said:
I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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+1 on Infused 1.5....buttery smooth
Clear memory. Hold home, task man, ram tab, click level 2, and clear. Maybe a temporary fix but it works for me.
I don't have time to restore apps one by one.
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
Post Infused by Infuse
I just flased it to Infused 1.5. Seems smoother. Ill post back if my phone crashes like before
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carhigh said:
Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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Do you have SPAREPARTS from the market? if you don't download it and go into WINDOWS ANIMATION/set it to FAST and also go into TRANSITION ANIMATION/ set it to FAST as well. this will give you a faster experience.
Backup Apps and Data- Wipe - Don't restore everything at once
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
I think its same as captivate Samsung is doing something on the file system that's why it gets slow after a week
millerja01a said:
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
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as a general rule I automatically disable background updates of every app I install
Infused 1.5 was a big win over stock. Switched to Bionix 2.0 and now on Infused 2.0. I think Bionix was slower but more stable than Infused 1.5 (both Froyo). Infused 2.0 (GB) seems to be faster and more stable though only running it for a couple of days. About to drop in Infusion-GB OC/UV kernel. Looks like it will make it even faster.
samomamo said:
Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
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Can't be sure but it may be that you have too many apps running on. Each widget from a different app runs an app at startup. I just run Battery Monitor Widget.
Lots of other apps run at startup too. Astrid, Skype, and other calendar/messaging apps are included. Some games (eg:"4 in a row") start at boot though I don't know why.
And the stupid Google market has the startup on boot permission hidden.
Some apps allow you to disable auto start, others don't. I tend to delete those unless I really like them.
My new favorite app manager, Gemini App Manager, makes it real easy to find these apps. Just scroll the list of apps looking for ones that have an orange "AU" icon. Gemini App Manager runs better with root but fine without it. And, yes, I know it has an orange "AU" icon next to it. I just think it's worth it.
Many of the complaints I saw from the OP are complaints I've heard frequently about RFS. One of the main reasons why Stock Is Bad.
RFS is so awful that converting it to ext4 has a well-known name - Voodoo Lagfix.
You can also try advanced task manager
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Anyone else having tons of lag?

Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
superweapons said:
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.

Lag? Performance issues?

Is there a way to make things more snappier? more responsive? say like iOS?
GetPatriotized said:
Is there a way to make things more snappier? more responsive? say like iOS?
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Mines not laggy or buggy at all. If you want pos, buyod.
Hmm, I've noticed that my TF has gotten laggier lately. I don't know what I did because it was definitely snappy as hell a couple weeks ago, but about 2 weeks (or sometime on my break 2 weeks ago) it suddenly became laggy and slower to respond.
I'm using Prime 1.9, with the OC kernel. Do you think it could be that I've been OCing it too much and it was overheating, or something else? Should I just wipe or leave it alone for a while? I mean, because I didn't turn it off for a good week or more until it got laggy.. hmm
my only issues so far are web browser crashes and page loading is laggy. Seems to be an android thing as my s2 and gtab done the same until a custom rom was used.
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145&highlight=ram
Or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173230
Also do a search for the screen calibration app that's available around here somewhere
You could just buy an iPad, that would give you responsiveness similar to iOS. Or you could install a custom rom, install a custom kernel, uninstall un-used apps, remove useless system apps, wipe your cache, wipe your dalvik cache, overclock your tablet, install a task killer, or my personal favorite, throw it out the window of a moving vehicle, that'll make it go so fast you won't even be able to see it.
isolated_epidemic said:
You could just buy an iPad, that would give you responsiveness similar to iOS. Or you could install a custom rom, install a custom kernel, uninstall un-used apps, remove useless system apps, wipe your cache, wipe your dalvik cache, overclock your tablet, install a task killer, or my personal favorite, throw it out the window of a moving vehicle, that'll make it go so fast you won't even be able to see it.
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Don't use a task killer. It's pointless and will make things a lot worse.
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Try the latest android revolution hd rom. Very snappy, no oc needed.
If you throw it out the windo, it only goes fast relative to you! Hmm, maybe i will try andro revo hd when i get my new usd card
only laggy on certain app. use adw-ex for home screen will make it smooth. library still sucks
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Don't use a task killer. It's pointless and will make things a lot worse.
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I havent had too many issues using it. If you set up a comprehensive ignore list of apps that shouldnt be killed it keeps things a lot more stable. 2 years of task killers on various android devices and I havent had any related issues.

[Q] Why is phone so laggy?

I've got a sgs+ I updated to android 2.3.5 from 2.3.3 it improved the overall lagginess abit. I have tried almost everything not too difficult to smoothen things out because I'm not really into custom rom kinda deep stuff. For instance, temple run, lags every 10 secs and I fail. Angry birds? Same thing. My buddy with SGS "classic" does not have any of these kind of problems.
Ps: sorry for being NOOB
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Kond3P said:
I've got a sgs+ I updated to android 2.3.5 from 2.3.3 it improved the overall lagginess abit. I have tried almost everything not too difficult to smoothen things out because I'm not really into custom rom kinda deep stuff. For instance, temple run, lags every 10 secs and I fail. Angry birds? Same thing. My buddy with SGS "classic" does not have any of these kind of problems.
Ps: sorry for being NOOB
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If you want to have a better gaming experience (no lag..) you can either buy a phone with a stronger cpu, or root (which is really easy) and see if there is any custom kernels available for your device. With a custom rom and kernel you can make your phone more powerful than it is by increasing the speeds of your cpu. Phone's that don't have enough power don't play certain games well. I know you said you aren't into roms... It's really not that complicated. There is no way to make your phone more powerful, than to root and install a custom rom and kernel... Hope that helped.
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sdm14 said:
If you want to have a better gaming experience (no lag..) you can either buy a phone with a stronger cpu, or root (which is really easy) and see if there is any custom kernels available for your device. With a custom rom and kernel you can make your phone more powerful than it is by increasing the speeds of your cpu. Phone's that don't have enough power don't play certain games well. I know you said you aren't into roms... It's really not that complicated. There is no way to make your phone more powerful, than to root and install a custom rom and kernel... Hope that helped.
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The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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Thanks for this. I'm trying to get my 10 helpful posts so I can post on threads.. Didn't know what exact specs were...lol. XDA is great! Tks for correcting that!
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When was the last time you turned your phone off?
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When was the last time you turned your phone off?
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Yeah my phone too can get pretty laggy crashy and unstable when I am using it allot without turning it off.
ICS on my Samsung Gio lagged allot so I had to switch back to an earlyer version which increased my CPU performance by 400%, (however, graphic performance change was almost negligible)
You could also try something like a2sd, if you already have something like that your SDcard might be slow. (I suggest you get some confirmation on this one from more experienced android users before actually going and buying a new one, since I am quite new to this whole android stuff).
Hope I could be of service,
R.
You probably have a lot of apps running at the background. Try installing a 3rd party app manager and end all apps. I mean all. Should work. If not then your phone has a problem. SGS+ SHOULDN'T lag behind the SGS not unless the SGS is rooted.
What is your "better phone for games"? Will it be released for ever?
Buy an iPhone for 0 lag gaming.. Android has some lags.
If you don't want to root and install ROMs then pretty much your only option is to uninstall unnecessary services and apps. Try uninstalling an app, testing the game, and keep uninstalling untill you know which app is possibly the offending one.
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do a reboot,and use 3rd party task killer to see what had auto bootup and slowing down ur phone
My dad barely let me root to make a backup before updating. (my phone but still) And then there is warranty, I already have problems with GPS. I'm probably not going to do that. Thanks for trying, thanked.
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Dataslycer said:
The only problem with that is that the sgs+ has a 1.4ghz processor *COUGH*. its a single core but 1.4 is more than enough for temple run or angry birds. have you checked what programs are in the background? maybe there is a process that is polling every few seconds and lags the phone.
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I tried advanced task killer, but it really didn't make a difference. I think there are some self-restarters out there. And with app called watchdog, I didn't saw any active apps. Thanked
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If u root the thing and want to restore to factory default for warranty purpose, theres always odin. Just few clicks away and your phone is fresh default like its only been minutes its out of factory.
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If you don't want to root and install ROMs then pretty much your only option is to uninstall unnecessary services and apps. Try uninstalling an app, testing the game, and keep uninstalling untill you know which app is possibly the offending one.
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I did a factory reset. Then I tried to play something, it helped, probably the most. But there still was some lag? My friends stock non-rooted sgs classic runs better with like 70 apps installed.
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farukdgn said:
What is your "better phone for games"? Will it be released for ever?
Buy an iPhone for 0 lag gaming.. Android has some lags.
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I like the customizing of android. I can make my phone look like IPhone but not other way around.
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Reikyrr said:
Yeah my phone too can get pretty laggy crashy and unstable when I am using it allot without turning it off.
ICS on my Samsung Gio lagged allot so I had to switch back to an earlyer version which increased my CPU performance by 400%, (however, graphic performance change was almost negligible)
You could also try something like a2sd, if you already have something like that your SDcard might be slow. (I suggest you get some confirmation on this one from more experienced android users before actually going and buying a new one, since I am quite new to this whole android stuff).
Hope I could be of service,
R.
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Rebooting helps for some 10 minutes, I really don't want to reboot that often. My phone goes 40-50fps but lags 1/4 seconds every 10 secs. I sometimes get bigger fps drops when playing reckless racing 2. I guess that is for dual core processors, but mostly it runs fairly well apart from those little lags
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Thanks to anyone for quick responses. I appreciate it.
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Sigh...... advanced task killers or any of them are just a pile or **it, they just use up ram, on android we all know theres no way to close all apps, they'll just keep opening anyway and they can't close most apps. It drains your battery and has your processors trying harder with a ram drainage. Absolutely USELESS.
sensation lover said:
Sigh...... advanced task killers or any of them are just a pile or **it, they just use up ram, on android we all know theres no way to close all apps, they'll just keep opening anyway and they can't close most apps. It drains your battery and has your processors trying harder with a ram drainage. Absolutely USELESS.
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I knew that, that's why I used watchdog. It shows how much CPU power everything uses. Ram is there too but that is kinda useless.
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hello
dear user it may occur to you that sometimes when you apply a custom rom to a phone it is now built right for that phone because of all the different specs to that phone so it would be best advised to stick with the set defaults if you don't realy know what you are doind (like me) but also you could try and root is (universil androrot) and then use some programs like memory booster or just un install some apps from your device all together so free up some of the phones memorry.
hope it helped daveveej.

What is killing my phone's performance?

Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
petrivka said:
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
petrivka said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Reilly1812 said:
LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
Still Charged Up
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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cnoevl21 said:
I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
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Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms
Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
jco23 said:
my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
petrivka said:
Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
dwitherell said:
Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...
petrivka said:
...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
CalPolyRock said:
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?

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