Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
petrivka said:
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Reilly1812 said:
LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
Still Charged Up
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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cnoevl21 said:
I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
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Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms
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Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...
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...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
CalPolyRock said:
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?
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anyone else having problems with the most recent update of Juice defender?
Running Kings kernel #6 and #8 (that i've tried, and its causing extreme lag)
seems like this started after last update to it if I recall.
anyone have a rolled back version of Ultimate juice?
Can you give any more info on what exactly is going wrong? Is the touchscreen just not responding quickly, or is the whole phone that's chugging along? Juice defender on my phone always takes a second or so to re-enable everything after I unlock the screen, and I had an issue for a while where that would take 10+ seconds for it to do this.
Wiping the cache and Dalvik seemed to fix the issue, but I haven't the slightest idea why. That's what worked for me, but if you've tried different kernels and wiped in between flashes and you're still having the issue, your guess is as good as mine.
i had to uninstall juice defender... it was causing everything to go so slow.. even the KB would lag that it would input the secondary fuctions like if i would long press... it kinda ruined the BFS kernel if you ask me
Both hardware unresponsive and chugging during scrolling and selection.
Terribly bad.
Its either SetCPU or Juice defender doing it.
I installed SETCPU and did my thing for 2 hours and it was fine.
installed Juice defender, problems arose.
uninstalled Juice defender, Problem persisted.
Uninstalled SETCPU problems went away.
so tried to opposite the cycle and install Juice defender first.
Phone is now problematic again.
So my guess is not only is Juice defender the problem but its causing an issue with SETCPU as well
(I am not using the CPU option in Juice defender before anyone asks)
yeah, like I said multiple roms, using Amon Ra recovery (since I don't feel clockwork wipes well) and have wiped dalvik/cache , problem still persists.
I've noticed that SetCPU has been updated recently, and maybe they just arent playing well together, But even with SetCPU uninstalled JuiceDefender is wreaking havoc, phone is completely unusable, I can barely uninstall the application after its been installed, have to reboot phone and get to it within 30 seconds before it bogs down and lags phone.
Edit: so its not just me? also running kings and last few days with JD installed its killing me, Which sucks because it really did double my battery life.
Literally didn't lose 1% battery when screen was off all night unplugged haha.
I had just installed Juice Defender 4 days ago and I gotta admit, I was kinda hesitant to do so. I have read quite a few posts regarding the slow downs and sluggishness related to juice defender. As of today, I couldn't be happier with it. My battery life has definitely improved (I'm getting at least 5+ hours more a day with JD running). And i haven't experienced and slow downs or delays with any of my evos functions. I'm running cm 6 nightly (forget which one) with snap 7.11 kernel, and setcpu.
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I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
something ruined the App in the most recent update thats for sure, I'll have to report and watch for further development because it truly is great when it works.
The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
Jfree3000 said:
The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
Ultimate Juice always caused lag for me when I used it. It is a completely useless app, in my opinion, since SetCPU + the natural battery life is fantastic.
JD
Im running Juicedefender ultimate, 1.8.8 Fresh 3, netarchy 4.1.9 and everything is awesome. batt x 2.46 and no lag
i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
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I used the stable version, once I updated it ran like crap.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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Thx man, that seemed to have done the job.
does juice defender cut off 4G ?
sanjsrik said:
I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
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Most people don't have any issues with this app. Maybe you should check to make sure it isn't something else entirely, or maybe just another app like setCPU conflicting.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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whats the difference from the apk you posted to the one in the market?
The one in the market is the latest stable (v1.8.8) - while thedudejdog attached the latest beta available that time. You could also check http:/latedroid.com/beta/latest/ (sorry, as a new user I cannot post this as working link) for the always latest beta (currently v2.2.0).
But as I'm just here: I currently have installed the latest stable (1.8.8), and have some severe problems with it. What is the best way to switch to the beta (to give JD another chance) without losing the settings - if that's possible at all?
My probs with 1.8.8:
As soon as JD is running and the screen switches off, my IRC client (AndChat) loses the connection
I cannot "configure apps" - JD won't save the changes. With a little trick I can do changes here - but settings are always saved for 1 app only, i.e. if I enable/disable app b with this trick, settings of app b are saved - but those of app a (configured previously) are lost. That means there can only be 1 app configured at a given time.
If JD disabled data completely, they sometimes can be enabled only by a phone reboot (yes, I heard this may also be Android-2.1 specific).
With those problems persisting, the app would be quite useless to me: what does it help if I gain 2..5 hours (or even a day) of battery when I'm not able to use the phone as I require? Without JD, it currently lasts for about 3 full days. Gaining more would be nice - but compared to any trouble I'd prefer staying with my 3 days
I've been having a really annoying problem for a little over a week now and I'm out of guesses...
After running for a while my launcher (either ADW or LP) will lock up and make the phone unresponsive until I pull the battery let it come back up...It'll typically happen once or twice a day, and has happened with the stock .5 RUU rooted (using SenseUI, no LP or ADW), CM6 stable, NFXHero, Fresh, etc, so I'm leaning away from it being a ROM problem, but when it happens I can't unlock the phone from sleep. I booted the phone around 12:30am CST this morning and it just happened at 8:30am CST. When I slide to unlock it freezes, and I can hit end, try to wake it back up, and repeat the process and it continues to be unresponsive until the launcher FC's...the only thing I could figure to start with was ask in the IRC and Decad3nce recommended turning JIT off because over time it would bog down the phone, so I decided I would just flash CM6 and GAPPS and no tweaks, etc since no one else had a similar issue and still having the issue. I also limited what apps I installed to rule out something eating up CPU in the background (didn't install anything that stays running) I've ruled out CM6 being the problem seeing as it happens with any ROM I use and the only thing I can think of being the issue would be memory leak, and the only way I've come to that conclusion is since this is flash memory, I know it has a lifespan of reads/writes, and I'm wondering if I've just wiped and flashed too many different ROMs, etc...Also, I'm not using ANY homescreen widgets or themes, only a custom background. I don't have Autokiller installed or the battery tweak or ATK...just bare ROM.
Has anyone else had this issue? Is there any way I can troubleshoot it or do I just need to RUU the phone and take it to Sprint and try to get a replacement? I'm not due for an upgrade until Feb. so I can't just go swap out, plus I really like this phone and would like to keep it as long as possible...
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I've been having a really annoying problem for a little over a week now and I'm out of guesses...
After running for a while my launcher (either ADW or LP) will lock up and make the phone unresponsive until I pull the battery let it come back up...It'll typically happen once or twice a day, and has happened with the stock .5 RUU rooted (using SenseUI, no LP or ADW), CM6 stable, NFXHero, Fresh, etc, so I'm leaning away from it being a ROM problem, but when it happens I can't unlock the phone from sleep. I booted the phone around 12:30am CST this morning and it just happened at 8:30am CST. When I slide to unlock it freezes, and I can hit end, try to wake it back up, and repeat the process and it continues to be unresponsive until the launcher FC's...the only thing I could figure to start with was ask in the IRC and Decad3nce recommended turning JIT off because over time it would bog down the phone, so I decided I would just flash CM6 and GAPPS and no tweaks, etc since no one else had a similar issue and still having the issue. I also limited what apps I installed to rule out something eating up CPU in the background (didn't install anything that stays running) I've ruled out CM6 being the problem seeing as it happens with any ROM I use and the only thing I can think of being the issue would be memory leak, and the only way I've come to that conclusion is since this is flash memory, I know it has a lifespan of reads/writes, and I'm wondering if I've just wiped and flashed too many different ROMs, etc...Also, I'm not using ANY homescreen widgets or themes, only a custom background. I don't have Autokiller installed or the battery tweak or ATK...just bare ROM.
Has anyone else had this issue? Is there any way I can troubleshoot it or do I just need to RUU the phone and take it to Sprint and try to get a replacement? I'm not due for an upgrade until Feb. so I can't just go swap out, plus I really like this phone and would like to keep it as long as possible...
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+1-I am having the exact same issues with same setup although I do have AutoKiller and it is set to Optimum.
If you havent already try the Brainfunct kernal from this forum. I used to have random lockups and such before I used that..
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If you havent already try the Brainfunct kernal from this forum. I used to have random lockups and such before I used that..
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Sorry, I should've mentioned that I DID try the BFS kernel (9/28 build) and it was after flashing kernels that I noticed it (mostly coincidence I'm sure) which is why I flashed straight CM6 to rule out the kernel
Funny as you mentioned it my phone rebooted once and then was non-responsive a second time after being untouched.. You must remember that these are RC1 roms and not final so there will be issues with each iteration.. Its the drawback of pushing our phones to the limit..
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Funny as you mentioned it my phone rebooted once and then was non-responsive a second time after being untouched.. You must remember that these are RC1 roms and not final so there will be issues with each iteration.. Its the drawback of pushing our phones to the limit..
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It happened with the stock .5 RUU ROM with the only modification being AndROOT...I RUU'd it back to .5 this morning and am going to ride it out untarnished to see if the problem replicates again. If so, I believe I will have successfully found it's a problem with the phone itself, and at that point take it to Sprint and see about paying the $35 for an exchange. I would do the OTA updates but if this shows its fixed I don't want to lose the ability to root, and I don't want to have to RUU back to .5 in order TO root. I was really hoping a dev who understands these ROM's better than I could chime in with some thoughts, but I guess I'll just have to keep test and tuning...I definitely appreciate these responses, though, and I'm happy I'm not the only one having this issue (though I'm still not happy it's happening lol)
not trying to be mean but your better off actually posting this in the right section and you might get some better answers. Q&A section is there for a reason.
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not trying to be mean but your better off actually posting this in the right section and you might get some better answers. Q&A section is there for a reason.
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Thanks...I figured sticking it in the Dev section would be more fitting since my first inclination was strictly a software problem, and not too sure how often dev's surf the other threads.
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Thanks...I figured sticking it in the Dev section would be more fitting since my first inclination was strictly a software problem, and not too sure how often dev's surf the other threads.
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oh...devs go in there quite a bit. If not them then plenty of people who know the answers are in there.
I have the same issue I've used stock roms cm6 roms and tons of different kernels. I've noticed it moreso when its been asleep for a while it will wake up fine and then a couple minute later it will freeze up and force me to do a battery pull.
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oh...devs go in there quite a bit. If not them then plenty of people who know the answers are in there.
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Gotcha...if you check out my post count I'm a n00b to these boards, but I appreciate you not blasting me like I've seen others have that happen to them (for not searching ,etc)...maybe a mod could move this for me so I don't clutter the boards?
Dono74 said:
I have the same issue I've used stock roms cm6 roms and tons of different kernels. I've noticed it moreso when its been asleep for a while it will wake up fine and then a couple minute later it will freeze up and force me to do a battery pull.
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Exactly! Now if a resolution can be found...since I posted this in the wrong section, maybe there is a resolution and I just wasn't in the right spot to see it...
Matt262 said:
I've been having a really annoying problem for a little over a week now and I'm out of guesses...
After running for a while my launcher (either ADW or LP) will lock up and make the phone unresponsive until I pull the battery let it come back up...It'll typically happen once or twice a day, and has happened with the stock .5 RUU rooted (using SenseUI, no LP or ADW), CM6 stable, NFXHero, Fresh, etc, so I'm leaning away from it being a ROM problem, but when it happens I can't unlock the phone from sleep. I booted the phone around 12:30am CST this morning and it just happened at 8:30am CST. When I slide to unlock it freezes, and I can hit end, try to wake it back up, and repeat the process and it continues to be unresponsive until the launcher FC's...the only thing I could figure to start with was ask in the IRC and Decad3nce recommended turning JIT off because over time it would bog down the phone, so I decided I would just flash CM6 and GAPPS and no tweaks, etc since no one else had a similar issue and still having the issue. I also limited what apps I installed to rule out something eating up CPU in the background (didn't install anything that stays running) I've ruled out CM6 being the problem seeing as it happens with any ROM I use and the only thing I can think of being the issue would be memory leak, and the only way I've come to that conclusion is since this is flash memory, I know it has a lifespan of reads/writes, and I'm wondering if I've just wiped and flashed too many different ROMs, etc...Also, I'm not using ANY homescreen widgets or themes, only a custom background. I don't have Autokiller installed or the battery tweak or ATK...just bare ROM.
Has anyone else had this issue? Is there any way I can troubleshoot it or do I just need to RUU the phone and take it to Sprint and try to get a replacement? I'm not due for an upgrade until Feb. so I can't just go swap out, plus I really like this phone and would like to keep it as long as possible...
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Sounds like a garbage collection fail when coming from sleep, try using ondemand cpu governor for the time being.
Otherwise.. don't set your max freq too high, that's usually where lockups stem from.
Decad3nce said:
Sounds like a garbage collection fail when coming from sleep, try using ondemand cpu governor for the time being.
Otherwise.. don't set your max freq too high, that's usually where lockups stem from.
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Actually when I flashed CM6 last night with no tweaks I didn't even install SetCPU or any kernels...just the one that came with it capped at 691.2...no battery tweak or anything
I think there is a problem in the latest iteration of CM6 but again its not a promised fully stable build.. All I did since then was to flash the battery tweak over stock CM6 and poof problems were gone.. With the 9/22/10 it was the opposite and i had to flash the Brainfunct kernal instead of the battery tweak one..
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I think there is a problem in the latest iteration of CM6 but again its not a promised fully stable build.. All I did since then was to flash the battery tweak over stock CM6 and poof problems were gone.. With the 9/22/10 it was the opposite and i had to flash the Brainfunct kernal instead of the battery tweak one..
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Still a mystery to me as to why it's happening with more ROM's than just CM6 though...oh well, I'll see how stock .5 unrooted treats me this weekend, and if I have the same problem happen again, I know it's phone related and not to be blamed on a ROM (which I'd like to make clear -- I do NOT blame CM6, Fresh, or NFXHero for my issues. I know the dev's spent a TON of time building everything for us to have something we would otherwise NOT have, and my sole reason for this post is really to find out exactly what is wrong with my phone, not necessarily with a ROM, and most importantly to find out if I'm the only one experiencing these issues)...I do appreciate all the help and responses, and I'm thoroughly impressed with XDA and the responsiveness of everyone
Just in case anyone was interested at all, my phone completely bricked today (stock .5 running all weekend no issues) and the culprit is the touchscreen and all buttons but power stopped working...sprint's overnighting me a replacement so evidently something got too hot at some point or the like...thanks to all for the responses, and to those who had similar issues (not related to the ROM you're running) then keep an eye out for imminent failure lol
Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
Mine seems to be getting laddy. Cant really tell for sure yet why. Apps open slower, such as root explorer and some others.....
Mine too, I have all the same apps installed sense I got it and I font know why but its getting laggy. I have it rooted and has stock. I restart then its on for couple of hours then gets laggy, and I check the processing nothing out of the ordinary.
Sometimes a reboot every once in a while can give a fresh start
Yeah. Im still new at this. Im not rooted and on stock rom. For some reason my phone crashes.
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
samomamo said:
Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
slider2828 said:
I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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+1 on Infused 1.5....buttery smooth
Clear memory. Hold home, task man, ram tab, click level 2, and clear. Maybe a temporary fix but it works for me.
I don't have time to restore apps one by one.
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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I just flased it to Infused 1.5. Seems smoother. Ill post back if my phone crashes like before
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carhigh said:
Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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Do you have SPAREPARTS from the market? if you don't download it and go into WINDOWS ANIMATION/set it to FAST and also go into TRANSITION ANIMATION/ set it to FAST as well. this will give you a faster experience.
Backup Apps and Data- Wipe - Don't restore everything at once
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
I think its same as captivate Samsung is doing something on the file system that's why it gets slow after a week
millerja01a said:
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
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as a general rule I automatically disable background updates of every app I install
Infused 1.5 was a big win over stock. Switched to Bionix 2.0 and now on Infused 2.0. I think Bionix was slower but more stable than Infused 1.5 (both Froyo). Infused 2.0 (GB) seems to be faster and more stable though only running it for a couple of days. About to drop in Infusion-GB OC/UV kernel. Looks like it will make it even faster.
samomamo said:
Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
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Can't be sure but it may be that you have too many apps running on. Each widget from a different app runs an app at startup. I just run Battery Monitor Widget.
Lots of other apps run at startup too. Astrid, Skype, and other calendar/messaging apps are included. Some games (eg:"4 in a row") start at boot though I don't know why.
And the stupid Google market has the startup on boot permission hidden.
Some apps allow you to disable auto start, others don't. I tend to delete those unless I really like them.
My new favorite app manager, Gemini App Manager, makes it real easy to find these apps. Just scroll the list of apps looking for ones that have an orange "AU" icon. Gemini App Manager runs better with root but fine without it. And, yes, I know it has an orange "AU" icon next to it. I just think it's worth it.
Many of the complaints I saw from the OP are complaints I've heard frequently about RFS. One of the main reasons why Stock Is Bad.
RFS is so awful that converting it to ext4 has a well-known name - Voodoo Lagfix.
You can also try advanced task manager
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So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks
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So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks
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Stock is the most sluggish. On top of overclocked cpu, I use overclocked gpu kernel as well and the ADW EX launcher. That's a prescription for butter smoothness.
i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
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i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
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Even when you get everything set up the way you want it, things get laggy sometimes.
I do the following: reboot to refresh the system, free up ram by various means, including making sure that no memory hogs are running in the background, etc...Autostart root app helps to keep stuff from starting at or just after boot,which helps you manage your memory too.
Also make sure you are using the interactive (or lagfree if you so desire) governor for your kernel. That solved my laggyness problem with my refurb.
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What is lagfree? Is it a kernel? How to get that?
Is there a good app to show what is using the most memory or resources so i can uninstall? I use advanced task killer and it kills my apps every now and then and performance improves but they comr back even thougj i didnt run them. How can i prevent apps from loading into mem except when i launch. I went to their settings and disables anything that runs on interval but they still run.
Thanks.
Note; currently i am 3.2.1 rooted.
As I said, Auto Starts is a great app to control what runs automatically. I also use Active apps to show me what is running so I can close it if needed. There are a number of good root apps that can do the trick. Why not check out the list in the Xoom Heaven thread at the top of page one of the General Forum.
Thanks for the reply I will give that a try...
I noticed having a lot of open browser tabs kills the speed big time.
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Even bone stock the Xoom is not sluggish. I would say there is a problem or you did not fully wipe the device. On some devices the kernel could potentially cause a problem.
If memory is not super low, connection speeds is usually the culprit.
I'm just curious because I get a lot of mixed answers, some users claimed they never had a problem and their sidekick 4G runs smoothly while others say their phone freezes and reboots way too often. Some have also said installing custom rom has fixed their phone.
I have my sidekick since last may it does not freeze nor reboot constantly the most that ever really happen was that the screen got mosit so it stop working. I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick. (Used gingerclone,lighting rev2,glorious overdose,
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this question may perhaps be a bit tricky. some users, like myself, may have installed a custom rom, but that alone may not have fixed the lag. i installed b2tb, but still had a lag, and quadnrant score was the same before and after the flash. before b2tb, i was on stock firmware, and my quadrant score was in the 9s. after flashing, still in the 9s. screen lag was the same. a combination of voodoo lagfix and v6 supercharger have improved my quadrant scores to anywhere in the 11s or 12s. extremely little to no screen lag and no other noticeable performance lag at all. but simply flashing a custom rom did not fix my lag.
Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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I have been using this phone for a month, and it seems everything runs smoothly. just the battery life, like other smart phones, is disappointing.
Way too often for me, I'm not gonna lie and say it never did, evn though I love this phone to death. Too bad the only beastly phone out there with a keyboard close to the sk's is on verizon.
Then again, I'm not sure what I do that makes it freeze a lot.
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Have had my phone reboot due to running completely out of memory some cases an others just wtf why you reboot momments. Worst issue i had was dealing with a possible issue in the built in kernal drivers for the bluetooth talking with my kia souls bluetooth stereo cause it seamed now an then at work (pizza delivery) the phone wouldn't disconnect correctly an would cause other issues, like...... overheating x.X an it wasn't the battery cause the face of the phone was hotter then the back where the battery was an by hot i mean like almost hot enough to cause a burn x.x! Love the sidekick an if the devs can make a rom that patches every single issue the factory firmware has in it I'll very likely go back to it, but at this time I'm happy with my edge speed on my captivate (daily driver) an X10 mini pro (amazing backup phone that never fails )
Completly forgot sbout this one weird issus. One day, I magically lost root, had bto reflash to get it back, I have no idea how it could've happened because I wasn't messing aroun with anything.
Ever happe3ned to any of you guys?
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Uno if ur tired of rebooting getg a g2
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I had some major issues yesterday with glorious overdose rom, I switched to gingerclone v2 and all is well now. Stock this phone is a turd....
I had to disable the trackpad today because in sunlight it would go hay wire and I wasn't able to browse online
is that what it is when i feel my screen going haywire? i'll be trying to text someone and then it keeps scrolling up the conversation and then trying to do a search throughout that convo...jeez i thought it was just a nasty bug haha i'll have to disable it then, i dont use it anyways...wish they would have brought back the trackball from the SKIII....now THAT trackball was cool.
I disabled it and now im not having issues with it. I get this annoying browser lag tho and I need to stop that. I am looking to get a different phone now. Im sure someone who is a heavy texter would love to have this phone...
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Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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Omg! This ROM is perfect! This is exactly what I've been looking for! I wish I could hit the thanks button a billion times!
4th Option
4th option - Factory Reset, Rooted, added App Killer and uninstalled most of the Bloatware (Like DriveSource)
works much better now, even with the Stock ROM.
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xtrem88 said:
...I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick....
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Push PowerButton and Volume button [+ or -] at the same time for 10 seconds. This is a little faster & easier than a battery pull.
For a while I was using Ice Cream Sandwich v2.0 Domination with the ICS launcher removed and ADW launcher in its place. Everything was fine except for the Gallery. It would take forever to load picture, and occasionally, it would reboot my device if it took too long. I just switched to GenericGinger 2.0, and I've had no problems with crashes or reboots.
I'm running Gingerclone w/ Voodoo Lag Fix and V6 Supercharger Aggressive 2. Using Tegrak to OC up to 1.152 and I'm consistently pulling quadrant scores of 2200+.
On the stock ROM the phone froze and rebooted frequently. On GingerClone I haven't had it crash once yet.
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Oh and I forgot to mention some things. First in Tegrak I set the CPU low limit to 200mhz and the governor to performance. Makes a HUGE difference in quadrant score and minimal effect on battery life.
Kj2 deodexed and rooted.
Stock browser, Gallery, and recently, Defender 2 cause it to lock up.
Stock browser and Gallery lock up less than on kg2 deodexed/rooted, but still do.
Gallery only on loading, and browser on scrolling.
I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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Just wipe cache, or wipe cache and dalvik cache?