anyone else having problems with the most recent update of Juice defender?
Running Kings kernel #6 and #8 (that i've tried, and its causing extreme lag)
seems like this started after last update to it if I recall.
anyone have a rolled back version of Ultimate juice?
Can you give any more info on what exactly is going wrong? Is the touchscreen just not responding quickly, or is the whole phone that's chugging along? Juice defender on my phone always takes a second or so to re-enable everything after I unlock the screen, and I had an issue for a while where that would take 10+ seconds for it to do this.
Wiping the cache and Dalvik seemed to fix the issue, but I haven't the slightest idea why. That's what worked for me, but if you've tried different kernels and wiped in between flashes and you're still having the issue, your guess is as good as mine.
i had to uninstall juice defender... it was causing everything to go so slow.. even the KB would lag that it would input the secondary fuctions like if i would long press... it kinda ruined the BFS kernel if you ask me
Both hardware unresponsive and chugging during scrolling and selection.
Terribly bad.
Its either SetCPU or Juice defender doing it.
I installed SETCPU and did my thing for 2 hours and it was fine.
installed Juice defender, problems arose.
uninstalled Juice defender, Problem persisted.
Uninstalled SETCPU problems went away.
so tried to opposite the cycle and install Juice defender first.
Phone is now problematic again.
So my guess is not only is Juice defender the problem but its causing an issue with SETCPU as well
(I am not using the CPU option in Juice defender before anyone asks)
yeah, like I said multiple roms, using Amon Ra recovery (since I don't feel clockwork wipes well) and have wiped dalvik/cache , problem still persists.
I've noticed that SetCPU has been updated recently, and maybe they just arent playing well together, But even with SetCPU uninstalled JuiceDefender is wreaking havoc, phone is completely unusable, I can barely uninstall the application after its been installed, have to reboot phone and get to it within 30 seconds before it bogs down and lags phone.
Edit: so its not just me? also running kings and last few days with JD installed its killing me, Which sucks because it really did double my battery life.
Literally didn't lose 1% battery when screen was off all night unplugged haha.
I had just installed Juice Defender 4 days ago and I gotta admit, I was kinda hesitant to do so. I have read quite a few posts regarding the slow downs and sluggishness related to juice defender. As of today, I couldn't be happier with it. My battery life has definitely improved (I'm getting at least 5+ hours more a day with JD running). And i haven't experienced and slow downs or delays with any of my evos functions. I'm running cm 6 nightly (forget which one) with snap 7.11 kernel, and setcpu.
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I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
something ruined the App in the most recent update thats for sure, I'll have to report and watch for further development because it truly is great when it works.
The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
Ultimate Juice always caused lag for me when I used it. It is a completely useless app, in my opinion, since SetCPU + the natural battery life is fantastic.
JD
Im running Juicedefender ultimate, 1.8.8 Fresh 3, netarchy 4.1.9 and everything is awesome. batt x 2.46 and no lag
i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
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I used the stable version, once I updated it ran like crap.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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Thx man, that seemed to have done the job.
does juice defender cut off 4G ?
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I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
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Most people don't have any issues with this app. Maybe you should check to make sure it isn't something else entirely, or maybe just another app like setCPU conflicting.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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whats the difference from the apk you posted to the one in the market?
The one in the market is the latest stable (v1.8.8) - while thedudejdog attached the latest beta available that time. You could also check http:/latedroid.com/beta/latest/ (sorry, as a new user I cannot post this as working link) for the always latest beta (currently v2.2.0).
But as I'm just here: I currently have installed the latest stable (1.8.8), and have some severe problems with it. What is the best way to switch to the beta (to give JD another chance) without losing the settings - if that's possible at all?
My probs with 1.8.8:
As soon as JD is running and the screen switches off, my IRC client (AndChat) loses the connection
I cannot "configure apps" - JD won't save the changes. With a little trick I can do changes here - but settings are always saved for 1 app only, i.e. if I enable/disable app b with this trick, settings of app b are saved - but those of app a (configured previously) are lost. That means there can only be 1 app configured at a given time.
If JD disabled data completely, they sometimes can be enabled only by a phone reboot (yes, I heard this may also be Android-2.1 specific).
With those problems persisting, the app would be quite useless to me: what does it help if I gain 2..5 hours (or even a day) of battery when I'm not able to use the phone as I require? Without JD, it currently lasts for about 3 full days. Gaining more would be nice - but compared to any trouble I'd prefer staying with my 3 days
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I know there are countless threads related to G2x Problems but none of the threads are focusing on isolating the reasons of Freezing Issue. I have recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S Vibrant to G2x and i have to say i love the hardware and performance. Only Issue for me is random freezing.
After using the phone for 2 weeks and trying 3 roms
1. Stock
2. EB 1.04
3. Dark Sinister 1.1
I have come to a conclusion that kernel and rom is not the solution. At least not for me.
So i will try to solve the problem using hardware testing.
From my past 2 weeks experience.
1. Phone Freezes at night during charging
2. Phone Freezes when ever i turn off/on wifi and bluetooth and gps and Data (4g/3g) (Still have to figure out which of them is the cause. Cause i usually turn all off when i need to save battery).
Test Day 1
For Reason 1
I am using SetCpu and have changed Min from 216 to 312Mhz. I am trying this because i think very low cpu usage in standby for a very long period causes the phone to freeze. Its a Hunch i am not sure.
For Reason 2
I will keep wifi, Bluetooth and GPS off.
I will keep 4g/3g Data On all the time.
To My Surprise its been 16 hours no freeze. It includes charging at night. Lets see how long i can go without a freeze. Upon freezing i will make some changes.
Update 31/5/2011 (Test Day 2)
Ok its been more than 40 hours and not a single crash...
I removed the following possibilities as well....
It wont crash upon excessive usage.
Also Normal Heat up does not cause the crash.
As i have been playing Samurai II Vengeance all day long... Until I ended it. Several times charging along playing. I even played it on TV using HDMI. Not a single crash. I used to have around 3 crashes a day on stock rom when i unboxed my new G2x.
I also started using GPS from today. So lets see how it goes. I will update it every 24 hour.
Update 3/6/2011 (Test Day 5)
Ok i am considering Random Freezing On standby as solved because i havent had a single freeze at night after setting CPU Clock at 312 MHz using SetCPU. There are also other comments that back up my solution. I am considering this the solution of one problem.
2nd Issue of freezing while using cell phone apps is because of certain applications that are either buggy or not compatible with tegra Platform. For that i will start another thread with individual application testing for all apps that can cause the system to freeze or crash.
Please Discuss apps System Bloat-ware/User Apps that cause your G2x to Crash or Freeze in the following thread i created:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14399089
Thanks for all the feedback.
Luckily I dont get that issue, buy I think this is a good test :u
Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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Do you or @kangxi remember what Apps gave you issues?
it has to be a driver issue, its virtually the only explanation for why devs have not hammered it out yet or even CM7 team for that matter... it has problems on pure AOSP which leaves drivers or overheating (unlikely)... LG has to come up with the fix because they know their drivers and hardware better than everyone else...
Well the obvious problem I see is that they are all based on the stock rom. Try using one build from AOSP or a CM variety.
I didn't stay stock long but I did have reboot using the leaked Gingerbread (which is what EB is built from). I don't follow it but one is based off the stock 2.2.2 rom and the other is based off the leaked 2.3.3 rom.
I had nothing but problems with the stock roms. Thus your problem I think. Move over to Bionic, CM7, Gigglebread, or something.
I tested my phone and I didn't have a reset in like 5 days (which then my battery died overnight because I forgot to plug it in). I usually crackflash the CM nightlies and haven't had any problems with reboots or any issues requiring a reboot (aside from the flashlight killing audio, but just don't use it).
There are definitely two problems - software and the battery. I used to way more problems until I exchanged the battery for a new one and that solved most of my issues. The issues that remain are definitely software based.
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Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
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Thanks for this information/ Changing the minimum speed didnt affect the battery life but it has survived two nights without crashing. So i am planning to keep it at 312Mhz min.
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All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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I Completely Agree with you. Some Applications do cause system crashes. But I have removed all the t-mobile bloatware and i only have few games and GPS apps. All games are from tegra zone. So I am sure they are supported.
For GPS App i am using Copilot and it didnt crash on me once.
I just installed setcpu and set minimum to 312. I'm keeping everything else the same to see if this change has any difference. Will report back.
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Looks like you are gaining progress. Sounds like keeping the processor revved up a little more does the trick.
It would be a simple fix for people to try that have reboot issues. I can't get mine to reboot, so unfortunately I cannot help you. My contribution was to resist from flashing for as long as possible to test how long I could get my "uptime" to. I got up to 127 hours when I passed out without charging it.
I'm running 20 hours now because I forgot to charge it again (seems to be my only problem, lol).
Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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Have you noticed any changes in battery usage? I haven't really played around with SETCPU much but can the clock speed be set lower and if it can, have you tried slightly lower settings than 312mhz?
y are u guys using setcpu? and its def cuz the min is too low faux has his at 400 and no problems morfic also has his a little higher then what is it i think 216?? thats too low thats y setcpu isnt supported yet.....pimp my cpu
Someone asked me a question earlier. Only app I had issues with was fring. Soon as I opened it and started playing around with it, phone rebooted.
I uninstalled and it never happened again.
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mobilehavoc said:
No clue what you're trying to say but setCPU works fine. At startup for first time I selected Tegra2 and it works great. I have max set to 1000 and min to 312mhz (default was min to 216mhz). I'm running stock ROM but with root. that's all.
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well thats y it works for u, u cant overclock over a thousand mhz so in ur situation ur ok i guess it only applies for people running a custom kernel then setcpu doesnt work, then u would need pimp my cpu
Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
Mine seems to be getting laddy. Cant really tell for sure yet why. Apps open slower, such as root explorer and some others.....
Mine too, I have all the same apps installed sense I got it and I font know why but its getting laggy. I have it rooted and has stock. I restart then its on for couple of hours then gets laggy, and I check the processing nothing out of the ordinary.
Sometimes a reboot every once in a while can give a fresh start
Yeah. Im still new at this. Im not rooted and on stock rom. For some reason my phone crashes.
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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+1 on Infused 1.5....buttery smooth
Clear memory. Hold home, task man, ram tab, click level 2, and clear. Maybe a temporary fix but it works for me.
I don't have time to restore apps one by one.
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
Post Infused by Infuse
I just flased it to Infused 1.5. Seems smoother. Ill post back if my phone crashes like before
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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Do you have SPAREPARTS from the market? if you don't download it and go into WINDOWS ANIMATION/set it to FAST and also go into TRANSITION ANIMATION/ set it to FAST as well. this will give you a faster experience.
Backup Apps and Data- Wipe - Don't restore everything at once
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
I think its same as captivate Samsung is doing something on the file system that's why it gets slow after a week
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I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
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as a general rule I automatically disable background updates of every app I install
Infused 1.5 was a big win over stock. Switched to Bionix 2.0 and now on Infused 2.0. I think Bionix was slower but more stable than Infused 1.5 (both Froyo). Infused 2.0 (GB) seems to be faster and more stable though only running it for a couple of days. About to drop in Infusion-GB OC/UV kernel. Looks like it will make it even faster.
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Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
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Can't be sure but it may be that you have too many apps running on. Each widget from a different app runs an app at startup. I just run Battery Monitor Widget.
Lots of other apps run at startup too. Astrid, Skype, and other calendar/messaging apps are included. Some games (eg:"4 in a row") start at boot though I don't know why.
And the stupid Google market has the startup on boot permission hidden.
Some apps allow you to disable auto start, others don't. I tend to delete those unless I really like them.
My new favorite app manager, Gemini App Manager, makes it real easy to find these apps. Just scroll the list of apps looking for ones that have an orange "AU" icon. Gemini App Manager runs better with root but fine without it. And, yes, I know it has an orange "AU" icon next to it. I just think it's worth it.
Many of the complaints I saw from the OP are complaints I've heard frequently about RFS. One of the main reasons why Stock Is Bad.
RFS is so awful that converting it to ext4 has a well-known name - Voodoo Lagfix.
You can also try advanced task manager
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To all G2x community,
I am having problems with juice defender, to be more specific whenever I hang up from a phone call there is a delay in the hang up process, usually takes 5 to 10 seconds after I press end call. The issue is posted on the Juice Defender feedback forum, and I just wanted to call on you guys to pump up the vote tally for this issue. So if you can, just click on the link and give it the max 3 votes I'd appreciate it.
http://feedback.latedroid.com/forum...ns/2257272-no-data-connection-while-on-phone-
Edit: Whoops.
I get the same problem, I also have a problem with WiFi calling constantly polling my phone as traffic even with WiFi disabled with the phone set as WiFi Calling on Enable/Screen Off.
I always wondered why there was a delay on hangup... Never knew it was a JD thing though. Hope they address it quickly
I don't use these types of apps, but a while back I noticed a new similar app in the market. I'm curious as to how it compares to Juice Defender, has anyone tried it? It's called Go Power Master (by the same devs who made GoSMS and Go Keyboard etc.)
Sorry if this is a thread hijack
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I don't use these types of apps, but a while back I noticed a new similar app in the market. I'm curious as to how it compares to Juice Defender, has anyone tried it? It's called Go Power Master (by the same devs who made GoSMS and Go Keyboard etc.)
Sorry if this is a thread hijack
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Looks like the same idea... I may give it a shot as I use go launcher already and like their products (some of them)
Edit: That app is nowhere close to as customizable as juice defender and its ui is really ugly hahaa defiantly sticking with jd
Pin it to Win it.
Are you using a specific rom or just stock? I have ran into this issue with or without jd on certain roms (can't recall exactly such ones atm) but it may be a conflict also. I run jd on tsugi right now and use the 2g/3g since it still doesn't work radio wise with that version. But I have jd ultimate for the wifi capabilities, and have on all other roms for the past year and a half.
I have used certain roms along with certain kertain kernals without jd and had that issue though. I understand when its disabled things goto normal, so I guess are you running froyo, gb, 2.3.7 or ics?
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I'm running Weapon G2x 3.0_R1 ROM with the stock kernel and using Juice Defender Plus.
I'm running stock firmware non-rooted with JD plus and getting delayed hangup.
JD is pointless, all it does is turn off data when the screen turns off and on when the screen is on. This can be done by the touch of a button easy.
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JD is pointless, all it does is turn off data when the screen turns off and on when the screen is on. This can be done by the touch of a button easy.
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True but it fires does make it easier and more automated
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True but it fires does make it easier and more automated
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Thing is i WANT the data to stay on even during screen off, its not like i have a lot of traffic going on 24/7 anyways, its gonna update stuff like facebook, messenger, email twitter etc only, which uses very little traffic anyways.
I tried to set it updating everything whenever i turn screen on and all it did was cause some minor lag whenever i unlock screen.....not a very good idea to me lol
And to the OP, juice defender actually made my battery WORSE.......it kept trying to close some background stuff for me and ended up using a lot more power than it should be. All you need to do is flash a better rom/kernel, underclock (and undervolt if your hardware allows it, mine doesnt but its good enough so it is fine on stock voltage underclocked).
I did a test recenly, exactly 20 hours and my battery stayed at 97% with very little activity, which I consider as very nice. The next day I used my pone for about an hour on talking, roughly 30minutes on games, and probably an hour for web browsing, and i still have 59% left at the end of the day
Regular battery too, i did not buy a powerful battery replacement.
So yeah SCREW JUICE DEFENDER!!!!
If you wanted data to stay on all the time, JD is completely useless to you. Seriously.
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I've used JD Plus for well over a year. I'm really starting to think the app is hype. I see no major difference with it or with out it. Pointless.
If you read back some threads before on JD, you would find out that JD off the market (at least it still is) does not work on the G2X for some reason. You have to install a beta version of it that was linked on these forums a while back and use that.
The market version was not able to shut off data at all whereas the beta version does.
I was able to get about 27 hours before my battery depleted just on a new ROM and not having to UV/OC any settings. I still use it on my GB ROMs. Doesn't really work on the ICS ROMs.
I have had it for a long time, and noticed quite a bit of difference compared to without it. GB did change that until the beta. And with ics, it does work for me. I use it for the data shutoff + automated wifi enable/ disable. If I really need an email that I'm waiting for and can't miss that extra 5 min of duration that it takes, I turn it off. That's where I notice the major difference, especially with the newer kernels for ics builds. But obviously it doesn't seem to work as well for some people, or some people just don't like it. That's why theirs different versions of everything.
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I'm giving this thing the bump!... I'm impressed with the votes, the vote total is in triple digits. We need some more votes to get this thing pushed through. It's the only thing that bugs me about JD right now, and I'm sure there are alot of people in the same boat.
http://feedback.latedroid.com/forum...ns/2257272-no-data-connection-while-on-phone-
Don't use it, it doesn't help.
For me the battery life on my settings was so good it decreased it due to my phone being woken up every 30 minutes.
This is my battery life on stock battery without JD
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With JD I probably would've only gotten 18 hours.
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I don't know if JD does drain battery a lot or not. But I always have trouble with it connecting to Mobile Data quickly. I unlock the screen, it shows the 4g icon plus the four white bars, but it's usually connected only when the bars turn blue. And it takes forever for the bars to turn blue, like a 10 second delay, any way to fix it?
NekoNyapii said:
I don't know if JD does drain battery a lot or not. But I always have trouble with it connecting to Mobile Data quickly. I unlock the screen, it shows the 4g icon plus the four white bars, but it's usually connected only when the bars turn blue. And it takes forever for the bars to turn blue, like a 10 second delay, any way to fix it?
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No. It may help in some cases, but for me it is not needed.
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What kind of ratios do y'all get? I am just running the stock balanced and get 1.25ish but my buddy is getting 1.8 on his HTC so wasn't sure if I have mine messed up or something.
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Do yourself a favor and ditch jd.
I've heard mixed things about JD. Some people like it, others say it doesn't work.
On GB, I was getting 2.0-2.2x.
On ICS, I only use it for the schedules right now, I may test it out to see if it helps or not.
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I've heard mixed things about JD. Some people like it, others say it doesn't work.
On GB, I was getting 2.0-2.2x.
On ICS, I only use it for the schedules right now, I may test it out to see if it helps or not.
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It makes a smartphone dumb.
Only if you set it to make it dumb. JD doesn't block of my functionality just sorts some stuff like turning off wifi if there's no network around and check for an open network every now and then. Claims to be around X2.02 on mhx superlite 5.
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Only if you set it to make it dumb. JD doesn't block of my functionality just sorts some stuff like turning off wifi if there's no network around and check for an open network every now and then. Claims to be around X2.02 on mhx superlite 5.
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You can't be bothered to use the quick toggle and push a button to shut off wifi when you leave home or work? Apps like that just prevent a smartphone from being a smartphone. That's cool if you wanna use it, but shutting off radios and preventing data is sort of lame on a smartphone. There are other ways of saving power and still having a working smartphone.
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It makes a smartphone dumb.
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How so?
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Only if you set it to make it dumb. JD doesn't block of my functionality just sorts some stuff like turning off wifi if there's no network around and check for an open network every now and then. Claims to be around X2.02 on mhx superlite 5.
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I agree. I had it keep wifi enabled when connected all the time, turn data off during the work day and only check it every hour (I'm on a PC, I can get email instantly). I had it turn off data/wifi when I was playing a game. I had it turn wifi off when I left home and re-turn on wifi when I got home (location based). And I used the brightness feature (this was pretty poor...).
I still use it for schedule (I have it turn off sound and data/wifi at night) on ICS.
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You can't be bothered to use the quick toggle and push a button to shut off wifi when you leave home or work? Apps like that just prevent a smartphone from being a smartphone. That's cool if you wanna use it, but shutting off radios and preventing data is sort of lame on a smartphone. There are other ways of saving power and still having a working smartphone.
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My data is always on regardless it just makes sure my phone wont waste power by searching for wifi when there is none, also if I get to a place with good wifi and I know its there I'll use the quick toggle.
And jd is also useful in case I forget the bluetooth on it will turn it off after 5 minutes.
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My data is always on regardless it just makes sure my phone wont waste power by searching for wifi when there is none, also if I get to a place with good wifi and I know its there I'll use the quick toggle.
And jd is also useful in case I forget the bluetooth on it will turn it off after 5 minutes.
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These are things you can do without jd, except the forgetting bt thing. JD requires power to run, so consider that.
I've found that I get as good or better battery life by simply enabling System Power Saving then with JD. Your mileage may vary.
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JD showed about 1.7 on my device.
I'm running seanz GB Sky ICS and have always used JD. With or without JD, my battery blows. I wouldn't dare leave home without a charger. I've found that JD definitely helps, mostly for reasons previously mentioned in this thread. However, the JD ratios seem inflated and highly volatile. I never trust them. I know JD helps me a little bit but I never know exactly how much.
Based on feedback from seanz 4.0 rom, I doubt I'll need JD once I flash it. I just need some damn free time to sit down, get smart, do the downloads, and flash my way to freedom haha. Hopefully I'll make it happen tomorrow night.
Overall though, I am a fan of JD Pro.
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Shame on me for not answering the op questions. Normally my ratio is somewhere between 1.7 and 2.0. I've noticed that if I run jd for 4-5 days then the ratio slowly goes down to 1.25 which is odd. Then, if I disable it for 18-24 hours, my jd ratio for the next few days is insane: 2.5 to 2.9.
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I'm running seanz GB Sky ICS and have always used JD. With or without JD, my battery blows. I wouldn't dare leave home without a charger. I've found that JD definitely helps, mostly for reasons previously mentioned in this thread. However, the JD ratios seem inflated and highly volatile. I never trust them. I know JD helps me a little bit but I never know exactly how much.
Based on feedback from seanz 4.0 rom, I doubt I'll need JD once I flash it. I just need some damn free time to sit down, get smart, do the downloads, and flash my way to freedom haha. Hopefully I'll make it happen tomorrow night.
Overall though, I am a fan of JD Pro.
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Shame on me for not answering the op questions. Normally my ratio is somewhere between 1.7 and 2.0. I've noticed that if I run jd for 4-5 days then the ratio slowly goes down to 1.25 which is odd. Then, if I disable it for 18-24 hours, my jd ratio for the next few days is insane: 2.5 to 2.9.
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Simple kernel tweaks can save far more juice, and doesn't consume power like JD does by running in the background.
The issue is there is still no kernel source for ics anyway.
I'm pleased with my battery so I got no reason to turn of JD and check how it's effecting it, I'm not that much of a heavy user.
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The issue is there is still no kernel source for ics anyway.
I'm pleased with my battery so I got no reason to turn of JD and check how it's effecting it, I'm not that much of a heavy user.
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That's because it's a leak with no source. I got off the ics bandwagon and went back to stability. If you're not a heavy user why do you need JD? I'm just trying to help you make your phone better, if you wanna use it, that's fine.
this weekend I should have similar phone pattern, I'll check it with or without and let you know. Tho I'll be home only so I guess it will only show how much jd is draining instead of helping but that's also something.
Also im using ICS due to the correct hebrew alignment which is really annoying in GB.
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this weekend I should have similar phone pattern, I'll check it with or without and let you know. Tho I'll be home only so I guess it will only show how much jd is draining instead of helping but that's also something.
Also im using ICS due to the correct hebrew alignment which is really annoying in GB.
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You can uc on ics.
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Already running at 1.18
I'm getting 2.26 with custom settings on Sky ICS 4.2D-10.
In my view, there are two important factors in JD's usefulness: (1) Like the app itself says, it is most effective when you're not using the phone. If you're a heavy user, you're not likely to see an improvement, because most of what it does relates to turning radios on/off. (2) Whether or not you're good at micromanaging settings. If you reliably remember to turn off BT, or to turn off syncing when you're asleep, etc. then it may not be of value. Depending on where you are on those two points, it may be great, it may be more of a drain than it saves.
With JD and with my phone largely sitting on the desk, I can get out past three days on a charge. JD is allowing sync to occur every 30 mins during the day and not at all at night. I'm honestly not sure how easily I can set my phone up to do roughly the same without JD (although I'm trying to work on that).
1.8 - 2.2 on ICS Stock Deodexed. I don't need an alert for email every second I get one, keeps me unfocused at work. When I unlock the screen I get them anyway, so JD is perfect for me. My battery goes 32 hours on moderate use.
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If you're not a heavy user why do you need JD? I'm just trying to help you make your phone better..
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OK we get your point... but some of us have limited data plans and I find it very frustrating when the phone goes off and self-initiates a 64mb transfer of what-I-don't-know - out of my 200mb plan. I don't need a phone that smart. ATT isn't good about providing any details what-so-ever about that data usage so am looking for other means to control power and radio usage and to actually get through the whole day without having to charge twice in the same day and without having to remember to help my smartphone to be smart.
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Reilly1812 said:
LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
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Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms
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Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...
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...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?