Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
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Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.
i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.
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I would like to know what are your guys readings of RAM usage. Mine sits around 240MB/339MB
Is that high or normal? I do have quite a bit of widgets on different home screens so I dont know what the baseline is. Please share your results.
Good topic I was wondering this myself ...
Average ram I have is about 128MB free out off 339MB
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179mb out of 339
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179mb out of 339
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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Task MAnagers!?!?!
I'm not sure if i am 100% right about this maybe won of the senior members who does know can enlighten us on this...
But I remember reading somewhere that task managers some times can hurt your phones RAM usage. I don't use one anymore unless it comes stock. and then I rarely find a reason to open it on mine. In standby I am running around 80-100 with 200-300 of freem RAM so with the SGS4G i don't think i will find a reason to use more than the stock utilities. I somtimes will installl a tool to monitor the RAM to see what I'm usin but every once in a while I go through and uninstall anything I don't need right away. I figure ussually being in good internet coverage I can always put something back.
So does anyone else know about wether or not the "Task Manager" could actually be a tantric in some cases?
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Very good article about task killers
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
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Well, this is def not the case anymore. I sit around 200MB free. Ever since cwm's final release the doors opened for us. Go get some love
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You shouldn't have to worry too much about RAM usage. A lot of it used by the OS. But yeah widgets does lower it and whatever app you're using. But I hope you don't resort to using task killers just to save 50mb's of RAM. It's there for use and shouldn't be looked at too much.
Mine shows about 400/626, but haven't noticed any big difference in battery drain when it's at 300/626.
Simple answer....everything hogs ram. The best way to tell what's worse is settings » applications » manage applications and watch your ram usage when you have certain things running. You will notice what is hogging more than others.
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Thank you for the info everybody. Been ruinning just fine all day with the ram almost maxed out, hard to break that task manager habit though lol. Goona keep reading before I root-flash-mod need to make sure I get it right the first time.
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Samsung and Tmo set many bloatware to run ALL the time and hogs RAM
via Linda file manager and auto memory manager (which tweak's android's memory management, not a standard task killer), i saw many apps that always run (many with priority equals to android system and the phone app) such as "wifi calling, visual voice mail, my account, qik, device management, drm, etc.
not everyone use these apps and they take up precious RAM and tiny amount of CPU cycles.
worse, however, is how the phone keeps loading unused, unaccessed, unwanted apps into memory (been weeks since I used pandora, yet it keeps getting reloaded into memory).
from clean boot, I get 150mb free. after a week, I get 45-55mb. This causes memory manager to kill off app as soon as you switch away and alot of stutter (dont you hate it when your browser gets killed)
Dont know if theres a fix for this. I tried tweaking the OOM parameters but it doesnt seem to work on this phone. Samsung probably tweaked something that broke this.
I'm running Virtuous Inquisition 3.5 and I've noticed when memory gets low (less than 60mb free) the phone gets incredibly sluggish, and I've had it basically freeze for minutes while I wait (eventually memory does become available and it is functional again). This usually happens when I'm using Dolphin browser because it uses a lot of memory by itself (over 150mb usually).
I noticed a lot of inactive programs caching memory, and if I use a task killer widget I can free up memory to not have this happen (although eventuallly the killed programs come back in the background and I'm left in the same situation). I also have Dolphin cache to sd card which helps somewhat, but I was wondering is anyone else having this issue, and if so, is there an app or something else you can recommend to free up ram in the background so I don't have to manually clear it all the time? Or even an app that prevents inactive programs from caching ram?
I was having the same issue. I'm not sure why it wasn't managing memory like it should but since then I flashed ARHD and shizlon theme and I basically have an AOSP looking ROM with the goodies of Sense. Which is what Virtuous Inquisition is trying to accomplish.
Look at my signature for my complete setup
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I'm also facing this problem and i'm also looking for an app hopefully to resolve this... I'm on Virtuous Inquisition version 3.50....
I'm also having this same issue, the best I have been able to do to deal with it is get a task manager and set the auto kill to aggressive or crazy when the screen is off. It is definitively not the greatest solution though, but, for the time being it is working.
i know it's an old thread, but i started experiencing this issue lately on my Sensation 4G (T-mobile USA)
Currently I am running 6.7.0 ARHD with stock kernel. Phone was superwiped before installing ARHD. And it works, but i am having like 90 MB free memory and with gives me warring of low memory all the time and lags like hell, sometimes it's like frozen for a minute.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
I close my apps Times to times and usually I never let it go under 120mb I tried once had 60 mb free and it started freezing and become almost unfunctional.. Closed my apps and everything worked again
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Have you guys tried tweaking minfrees? If you know what you're doing you can use SystemTuner. Otherwise you can use the supercharger script. If you don't want the launcher locked in memory you can skip it but apply the minfree tweaks. You can choose how aggressive or light you want it to be. Don't use task killers if you can help it and setting task killers while screen off screws with your multitasking. If you need help PM me and ill help you when I next get online.
hi Pjay12,
I just installed system tuner and set some limits to mem used, seems less sluggish, we'll see... TY for the tip
Have you guys tried tweaking minfrees? If you know what you're doing you can use SystemTuner. Otherwise you can use the supercharger script. If you don't want the launcher locked in memory you can skip it but apply the minfree tweaks. You can choose how aggressive or light you want it to be. Don't use task killers if you can help it and setting task killers while screen off screws with your multitasking. If you need help PM me and ill help you when I next get online.
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No problem Set the first 3 at relatively low amounts 30-60 and gradually work up towards the last one around 120-150 and see how it works out.
Hey, yes that has some effect. So far so good after a day of use. Facebook still gives me some trouble, but much better that it was before. Again thanks for the tip.
Now if I find out why my screen get as hot as barbeque grill even with stock kernel, and solve my 4G speed issues (although the latest I blame on T-Mobile) this will be the best phone ever lol xD
Hey! Here I am again. Heat issues- try latest Sebastian Kernel. Don't overclock GPU. Haven't had many issues with that kernel. 4G I'm really.not sure :/ for one my sensation isn't 4G and 2 the max 4G speed here is about 2.5mb per sec..... Sad story.. But there are some tweaks for 4G lying around. And there's also a 3G supercharger script that MIGHT help. Worth a shot All it does is modify your build.prop values. it does have some effect for me. try if you like Good luck
hey thanks again, I did try different kernals that come with ARHD, sebastian is one of them, my HTC is hot with all of them. Might be just the phone. thats why left stock after last re flash. also do you happen to have a link for the 4G tweaks / 3G script? i am willing to give it a shot. I am not techie by any mean, but i can handle simple flashing and stuff like this
Here's the 3G script -
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
Latest downloads at the bottom of the post. No flashing required either. Just install Script manager from the market and run it as root. Sorry but I can't find the 4G tweaks :/ Will let you know if I do.
Edit- the scripts name is 3GTurboCharger_Installer_Update_3_RC11_Test_1.sh.pdf
Original thread is
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
if you enable the Task Manager widget how much RAM do you have when your not running any Apps, how much Ram is available on average with no apps running
well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
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well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
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Same here. Never seen it go above 248. I still have some tweaking to do so that might change.
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wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
No apps running 300-322 mb!!! Cm7
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xtian63 said:
wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
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With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
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With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
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wow thanks atleast i know my O3D has no problems with ram, well its normal so time to root and manage apps
Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
mines 130~140 with 3 screens full of widgets all teh way from showing cpu clock, ram, internal sd, external sd, weather, text time app folders etc to xboxlive stats, facebook, opera favorites etc. Since it's o/c'd to 1.3ghz on acura v21D it's still quite fast.
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Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
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200-240MB with the stock ROMs or with a custom ROM?
I'm curious about how much free ram everyone has on average after their rom has finished booting and stabilized! Post it here!!!
jookdakang23 said:
I'm curious about how much free ram everyone has on average after their rom has finished booting and stabilized! Post it here!!!
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Say like fresh boot let it sit for 5 minutes??? Post what rom and kernels you are using as well, as some of us are on the mobile app.
EB build 3 ICS, built in kernel.
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Say like fresh boot let it sit for 5 minutes??? Post what rom and kernels you are using as well, as some of us are on the mobile app.
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you must have nothin running lol
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you must have nothin running lol
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it was a fresh boot, I didn't open anything just let it sit for a cigarettes length and then looked at it. Now that I have used the phone I'm at 191MB.
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it was a fresh boot, I didn't open anything just let it sit for a cigarettes length and then looked at it. Now that I have used the phone I'm at 191MB.
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o ok, ics does manage ram better than gb anyway. im using weapon g2x
Just did a fresh boot on stock 2.3.3 (unrooted) and let it sit for five minutes. I have 1weather running in addition to a couple game push notification services. I have 238 mb free ram right now.
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Just did a fresh boot on stock 2.3.3 (unrooted) and let it sit for five minutes. I have 1weather running in addition to a couple game push notification services. I have 238 mb free ram right now.
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how about a screenshot? that's pretty good!
Here it is. It bumped down to 237mb by the time I thought to screenshot it.
i run about 40-80mb free on average just the way i want it.
Android uses ram differently than other operating systems like windows or linux,
it fills your ram with things that you have run already in hopes that youll run them again and it will be alot faster the second time. if it needs that ram for something else, it just kills a program and removes it from ram (this takes VERY little time)
so the more ram used the better
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i run about 40-80mb free on average just the way i want it.
Android uses ram differently than other operating systems like windows or linux,
it fills your ram with things that you have run already in hopes that youll run them again and it will be alot faster the second time. if it needs that ram for something else, it just kills a program and removes it from ram (this takes VERY little time)
so the more ram used the better
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I understand what you are saying but in some cases like mine, I only have about 5-8 apps that I use.
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I understand what you are saying but in some cases like mine, I only have about 5-8 apps that I use.
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thats about all it holds. the VM heap settings are what causes this (in part) each app gets its own virtual machine to run in, this has a limited heap (ram) size of whatever is set in there.
so if your VM heap size is set to 48mb... 48 * 5 = 240mb and 48 * 8 = 384mb
add in whats needed for Android system, kernel, and various background processes that you need... its all gone
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thats about all it holds. the VM heap settings are what causes this (in part) each app gets its own virtual machine to run in, this has a limited heap (ram) size of whatever is set in there.
so if your VM heap size is set to 48mb... 48 * 5 = 240mb and 48 * 8 = 384mb
add in whats needed for Android system, kernel, and various background processes that you need... its all gone
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fair enough, never thought of that.
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fair enough, never thought of that.
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it honestly was not that long ago that i was using a task killer, killing every freakin app running because i was mad it was using up all my ram... then i wanted to start developing stuff for android, and i quickly learned the error of my ways
so u dont agree with auto task killers and you saying the system runs better with lower ram?
that's what he is saying, that's been known since eclair was introduced to android though... I just never thought of the more ram being used the better.
This is what I have left! Running latest euroskank cm7. Was 130 right before screen shot
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so u dont agree with auto task killers and you saying the system runs better with lower ram?
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that's what I'm sayin! if the OS already has the program your trying to launch in memory, it wont need to load it, saving time and power.
and if you kill programs forcefully, android (kinda) treats it like it crashed, and reloads it into memory soon after...
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that's what I'm sayin! if the OS already has the program your trying to launch in memory, it wont need to load it, saving time and power.
and if you kill programs forcefully, android (kinda) treats it like it crashed, and reloads it into memory soon after...
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ok so memory can go below 100mb without a problem because i always try to free memory around 150mb
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ok so memory can go below 100mb without a problem because i always try to free memory around 150mb
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it all depends on what your min-free settings are.
the apps that fall into each category are slightly different for each ROM, but whatever the highest setting is at is what your free memory should sit around, and it can and will fluctuate alot for seemingly no reason.
and before you all go out and change them as high as you can, just know that free memory is wasted memory, it takes NO power to keep things in memory, but it does take power to put things in memory every time you open it!
This explains it a bit better than i can.
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it all depends on what your min-free settings are.
the apps that fall into each category are slightly different for each ROM, but whatever the highest setting is at is what your free memory should sit around, and it can and will fluctuate alot for seemingly no reason.
and before you all go out and change them as high as you can, just know that free memory is wasted memory, it takes NO power to keep things in memory, but it does take power to put things in memory every time you open it!
This explains it a bit better than i can.
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makes sense, so basically task killers do the complete opposite? lol i will let services and apps stay in memory without a task killer and see how things go
I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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GB software was/is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea for some to stay on this release until the official OTA has been pushed and tested by the devs to check the possibilities for flashing back to GB - if at all. ICS is more intensive, for example, in terms of resource usage. As smartphones become more capable, our own applications, as well as the Google Mobile Services (GMS) applications, are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM, and full hardware acceleration also results in a need to load additional graphic libraries for certain apps, which makes them use even more RAM.
Another effect of the hardware acceleration is that it can make the battery drain faster in some cases. An example of this is video playback, where the hardware acceleration requires every video frame to be run through the GPU, thus making the system use more power than it would have without HW acceleration.
Out of your RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory allotment to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, is reserved for the Android OS. Within the Android OS, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.
When running low on RAM, typically with less than approximately 40MB left, the activity manager will start to close processes according to priority. At first, idle background activities are killed. The last thing to be closed down is the foreground activity.
Processes that are closed will obviously have to be restarted when the user enters the app again, which takes time and slows the system down. For example, when running a heavy game that uses all available RAM, the activity manager will be forced to kill all processes running in the background. This might include vital functions like the dialler and even the Home screen application. When you exit your game, there is a risk that the phone is perceived as slow, since the Home screen app will have to be restarted, just like every other activity you access afterwards.
Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to GB. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirements, and resource usage in ICS is heavier on the system compared to GB.
I've found that Android runs fine without having much free ram, if you think about it logically there is no need for free ram, if every bit of your ram is going to something then everything is going to work fine. My G2 has 366mb ram, about 40 of that is free right now, but the system still runs smoothly (mostly due to my 1.3ghz overclock), and I can multitask and play games just fine, Android manages memory very well. Keeping an eye on free ram isn't important, you should be worried if things start closing and the OS starts running very slowly tho. Is there more free ram with some of the mods in the development section? SCV7 and stuff?
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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Good point, the bloatware and blurware definitely bogs down the phone, happens on pretty much all phones with manufacturer skins. Which is why CM and AOSP is so awesome.
How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???
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How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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I wouldn't hold your breath for JB on this device. I mean, for gripe's sake, look how long it's taking to get ICS for the A2. But, aside from this phone, CM10 on my S3 is flawless, I have absolutely no complaints. This phone, and this ROM, are perfection...
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i asked about gingerbread sir......comparison of battery life
For me i guess battery is draining just a little lesser in ICS than GB. Difference is not very huge but there its a slight improvement...also you can disable few background tasks...
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i have a similar problem but ...
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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surprisingly this OTA release is clean and neat with less such stock apps.. and if you want there is an option in the manage application (Settings -> Apps -> ALL) to "Disable" any such stock aps. I've disabled a few annoying running service for me, News and Weather, Facebook, Face Unlock, Social Location, Task etc..
Polycap said:
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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Battery life on ics is actually pretty good.. Running on sc7 leak 2 and my bat life for some reason has greatly improved compared to when I was on GB
would that mess up with my webtop
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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would that still enable me to use my webtop
And The task manager which we had in gb is gone. That could do auto kills which was great.
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