mk2000 Oreo. What versions of the kernel work. best? - LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion

I've been catching wind of people mentioning different versions of the mk2000 kernel working best for them on Oreo. In my personal experience flashing mk2000 v2.0. Works quite well for me. I member reading someone saying that a beta version of the 2.2 worked good for them. But for the life of me can't find where I read that. I want to say it was beta 14. In my experience 2.1 and 2.2 have been very unreliable. I even tried the 2.2 build2 by Phenix using the Clang compiler.
In my experience my phone has never run better while using V2.0 on Oreo. Even compared to Nougat. However I probably wasn't flashing it right.
I know next to nothing about android. I just recently learned you are supposed to flash magisk after flashing the kernel. I have only done this procedure in the specific versions listed above.
The LG V20 is my first smartphone. And I must say it has been quite a nightmare. The only redeeming factor is that after two years of using it. I've figured out how to make it sound decent.
I digress... What versions of the kernel have worked best for you? Can you go around flashing away different versions without messing things up?

Good luck!
I've been using the stable 2.2 "re-upload" version for my VS995 on AO oreo for a while now. It is the one that has given me the least issues. Wish I had more info for you, but honestly it was just a LOT of trial and error to find what worked for me... Don't know why and I'm done trying to figure it out
All I can say is good luck. None of them are perfect for me. This version has the occasional crash of an app in the background but that seems to be it, even after many months of heavy use. So if you mean "has the least bugs" when you say "working best" then that is my answer.
The version I am talking about is located here by the way:
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=297449
Just make backups and try them all out... why not, ya know?

Not sure what issues you guys have been having my phone has been great.

Qron said:
Right now I'm using mk2000 2.2 beta 34 kernel and it gives me a way smoother experience than 2.2 or 2.1 stable. It's paired with 20b TWN by reza_xdv.
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This was the post i was looking for. Flashed the kernel and Magisk. The phone really cooks! In a good way. Performance wise and heat wise lol. Only under load. I feel like I have a good phone finely. It's only been 3 years. Now if I can only get my spell check to work.
@xSodxManx. Thanks a lot for the heads up on this one. I'll look into it.

You can also check version compiled by Phoenix591
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117931114

I guess I'm back to 2.0. My alarm service crashed and I was late for work. First time ever. I'm not 100% sure it was the kernel but I'm almost positive as my phone started exhibiting strange behavior pryor to the battery swap. I even rebooted before going to sleep. I was charging a new Perfine 10000mAh battery. I have read reviews that it made some customers phone unstable. I understand how important clean power is in any electrical system. In phones the battery seems to be the only component in the powersupply that delivers a clean voltage. It's entirely possible that the balancing system in the new battery screwed things up on the first charge.
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You can also check version compiled by Phoenix591
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117931114
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I haven't had much luck with that. I didn't like the way the phone booted. Then I got a kernel panic and jumped ship.

I'm still struggling with this. However I think I have discovered something. I cannot find any sort of installation instruction from the official MK2000 thread. I originally made the assumption that clearing Dalvik cache and cash in TWRP was sufficient enough. However it seems that that doesn't clear the app cache that can be found in system Settings.
After having issues trying the other MK2000 versions, I decided to revert back to 2.0. After doing so the system still ran like crap, until I cleared the cache in system settings. I have now achieved system stability and performance I was only able to achieve through a factory reset.
The complete [installation / upgrade / downgrade] procedure is as follows.
1. Flash kernel zip.
2. Flash magisk NOT version 2.2
3. Clear Dalvik cache / Cashe in TWRP
4. Clear app cache in system settings.
For now I'm sticking with 2.0. However perhaps when I get board I will try the other mentioned versions.
I am particularly interested in the mysterious Stendro re-upload. It did give interesting results.

I've put my V20 through some grueling real world tests. Testing the following Kernel versions:
MK2000 V2.0
MK2000 V2.2 Beta 34
MK2000 V2.2 PHXCLANG2-rebuild
MK2000 V2.2 Stendro re-upload
Stock Kernel
I was running the following programs for the test:
Google maps (driving directions)
Google assistant
USB Audio player pro (FLAC player, with dedicated audio driver)
Flud (torrent software)
Messages (sms)
Contacts
I set all cores to performance in Kernel Auditor
In a nutshell I can see no difference between reliability between the MK2000 versions. I would recommend using ether the Beta34 or the PHXCLANG. I find they both lag in different ways but equally so. During the testing I did run into some issues where the music would stop playing or the navigation stoped. Aside from noticing the second screen getting killed. I believe this is all due to the LMK not the Kernel, which sounds like a bad idea to me but what do I know.
Then I went back to the stock kernel. Oh boy! I forgot how slow this phone can be. It brought back feelings of nostalgia. To a time when I was afraid to root my first android smartphone. And utterly completely frustrated and disappointed with it. My dispatcher called me 2 times in a row and a friend shortly after. My phone never even displayed the answer screen.
I had heard rumors that there were problems with the MK2000 kernel. I remember the words "crashing in the background". I would like to be informed of the issues it may possess.
During my initial test of the stock kernel. I ran into the issue where the music stoped. However when going back to the app, instead of the app being reset to the state it was when first opened. The app was paused precisely where the music stoped. Also I think the DAC sounds better on stock. It could be because my ears got a chance to rest over the weekend. These seem to be the only differences thus far. I'm going to continue testing stock kernel and see if I notice anything different.

It's been a couple days running the stock kernel and I have to say it's been quite an interesting experience. I had to uninstall Google or revert back to the original version. And after doing so voice input and Google Assistant have been working better than ever. I still believe the DAC sounds better. I recall being amazed with if the difference between MK 2000 nougat and MK 2000 Oreo.
I'm starting to believe that you have to do a factory reset after flashing the kernel. So I feel all of these this testing is almost for nothing. And would also explain why different users are getting different results. I am getting a lot of bugs with apps such as titanium backup. Where are the app list doesn't load. And I had an issue where LG music service was disabled and I couldn't enable it. The LG music app is apparently the only way to select a ringtone or notification sound. Which I'm very upset about. I was able to fix it by installing an APK.

I've been on A-O_VS995_20C_1.3.1.zip with VS995_v2.2-mk2000.zip for a LONG time. Used to have some heat issues intermittently... Afer i installed Greenify my heat issues have gone away... phone is snappy, stable, and battery has been really good.
Flash order:
Clean (wipe cache, dalvic, system) 3 times minimum.
Flash rom
Flash kernel
Flash magisk
Reboot.
Use the correct version of TWRP.
( no issues as mentioned two above.)

Not exactly what you asked for, but apparently a promising kernel is almost out that you might be interested in trying out: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/bounty-kernel-h990ds-stock-oreo-t3952667
EDIT: disclaimer, I haven't tried it myself yet, and would love to hear from people when it comes to fruition

the clang variant is superior in performance

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[Q] What rom and Kernal for G2x

Tonight i moved to cm7, if im not mistaken it is the latest nightly thats been release.
Specs as followed: Mod Verision: CynaogenMod-7-08312011-NIGHTLY-G2x
Build Number: GRJ90
CPU Info: ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v71)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.45-cyanogenmod
Android Version: 2.3.5
Please give me inputs and thoughts as to which kernal and rom combo would get me the biggest improvments I'm really looking to be wowed as much as i was when i upgraded from my G2 to the amazing G2x now i want more. Sorry for all the run on and this not being short.
Please leave personal information/reviews of your suggestions if you can. i know there will be a few different options and I've been loading the roms and setting everything up and backing up and trying new ones that way i can "Hot Swap" Rom if i want to change on the fly.
Thanks Again,
Jon
The first i have ever tried was the CM7 Nightly Build124 and had running with Faux123v0.4.1 Kernel. Great ROM and wicked fast and ok battery life. Then i moved onto Weapon G2X v2.5 but noticed it wasn't quite as fast as CM7 so i decided i wanted to try a different ROM but with a CM7 base. So i tried Eagleblood 1.9. Fast but wasn't stable and battery life sucked. Then i thought i'd give MIUI a try. After first boot up, i really wasn't feeling the whole iPhone feel...but as i got to play around with the different themes ande theme edits, i thought to myself: this is it. It's the perfect blend of iPhone functionality and simplicity along with Android endless customizations and amazing speed. Now my G2X feels like the best phone out there.
But it's really a personal preference. It's your phone and you want it enjoy it the way you want to.
Oh and its always good to have other ROMS and kernels as backup on your SD card.
yea id definately like to stay away from iphone anything, i really like android , bought my first android when the g1 first came to tmob, and been a fan ever since (tried windows mob 6 and despised how laggy it was) , ive played with iphones and do not like the lay out, i love the simplicity and customization of android roms and all, so id like to stick to something similar just looking for different internals to increase performance and battery life, all the features are fine pretty much , i wish it was as easy as computers just upgrading the ram inside the phone but i highly doubt we can upgrade from 512 mb of ram to 1 gb or more but can miui be swapped away from the iphone look/feel? i tried running cm7 with faux kernal but everytime i attempt to load the kernal zip from rebooting into recovery and loading zip from sd card, i get tossed into a boot loop (lg boot image, then switches to lg boot image with a blue and black loading bar, just keeps swapping back and forth between the two) so i end up recoverying to either my gb stable or a cm7 with stock kernal .
Yes ofcourse. With MIUI you can always run a different Launcher...like Go Launcher Pro or ADW. But the MIUI launcher is what sets it apart from all others...its very easy to customize. Here's the MIUI themes thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183979
Oh and to avoid bootloop...whenever you flash a new kernel always wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache. sometimes it helps if you fix permissions as well.
Ill check it out, are you running the faux kernal on the miui rom?
Thanks ill try whiping the dalvic and cache before flashing. And ill check out the miui thread you posted. Is there a faster kernal out there besides faux
The best performance and battery life combo I've experienced so far is CM7 with faux's kernel.
I've tried various different roms so far and my experience has been that anything based on stock LGE roms (such as EB and Weapon), although a big improvement over stock, is still plagued with incompatibilities and instability.
For example gtalk video doesn't work on anything based on stock, and netflix still doesn't work despite the most recent update providing compatibility with all froyo and gingerbread devices. Also because of LG's buggy bluetooth stack, you cant use wii or sixaxis controllers... pretty sillly on a fast phone capable of emulating N64 and PSX without lag and supports HDMI out.
That said CM7 is the best bet as long as you don't mind not being able to use a2dp... as far as I'm concerned its a small price to pay for all the extra functionality, battery life and speed CM7 brings to my phone.
I've also tried some CM7 based roms, but have never seen a big enough improvement to stray away from official CM7 or a kang such as fitsnugly's.
Right now I am using fitsnugly's kang.
As far as kernels go, I've experienced at least a 30% increase in battery life on faux's CM7 kernel maybe more. He has two versions, I recommend the one with the CM battery driver because the DS driver will make you want to pull your hair out.
Also I would recommend getting the July 15th baseband via the lg updater tool. It improves battery life and makes GPS lock instantly.
based on your last post of you bringing up that lge buggy blue tooth driver, i just purchased a new headset, Jawbone Icon, it syncs and connects with my phone just fine but when i attempt to make calls or answer calls no audio can be heard by bluetooth device, and unknown if my speech is heard on the other end. is this a conflict related to the bluetooth stack provided by lge
Jon_Mull said:
Ill check it out, are you running the faux kernal on the miui rom?
Thanks ill try whiping the dalvic and cache before flashing. And ill check out the miui thread you posted. Is there a faster kernal out there besides faux
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Yur welcome. As far as the fastest kernel, Trinity15 is quite fast too but i always seemed to prefer Faux for some reasons.
so i wiped the davlic and cache, reinstalled the cm7 rom , it loaded right, restarted a second time and went back into recovery , and attempted to load the faux kernal i have loaded on my sd card, i again cleared dalvick and cache, and ran fix permissions, it appears it was going to do boot loop after i restarted but instead got to the s/w ugrading screen, but it sat there for approximately 5 minutes before i decided to restore back to previous settings
Weren't you already running CM7?
Did you flash a newer nightly or something?
Also, make sure the faux kernel you downloaded was the right one. One is intended for CM7 and one is for stock GB, they have separate threads.
If you are sure you flashed the one intended for CM7 and it was the undervolted one, try the standard voltage.
Also based on your post I'm not sure what order you did things in but after wiping cache and dalvik, flash the kernel then fix permissions.
Good luck.

Extremely low scores...CM7

Hello,
FIRST OFF!
This thread is NOT for discussing whether or not benchmarking is useful. If you feel the need to flame me or anyone here for CARING about benchmarks, then go find another thread to piss in! I made this thread to clean up Faux's thread as it was taking over.
Ever since moving to any of the newer CM7 updates, I have noticed extremely low benchmark scores on CF Bench. When on CM7-1 with one of faux's kernels, everything is fine. (Cf Bench = 7000)
When I say low, Im talking 4000 on CF Bench despite OCing to 1.56Ghz. That is far below what the Sensation STOCK is measured at...
Notes:
1-Scores can be all over the place. At one point, I got a 6400. This would immediately become a 5000, and then back to 4000 range.
2-I have tried using three different methods of controlling the clock. (System tuner by 3c and fauxclock, both recommended by faux for his kernels, and then the CM7 performance settings). Fauxclock had the best outcome, but EXTREMELY unstable!
3-I have done NUMEROUS restarts along with cache clearing and dalvik clearing. I even pulled the A-Bomb out and used the superwipe script to start fresh. After the a-bomb, I DL only what I needed to test with...
4-My phone feels laggy, which goes along with the crappy scores.
At this point, I am restoring to my trusty Alpha 1 + faux kernel. While that works, I feel I will wind up getting left behind.
What could cause this? What are some things I may have overlooked? Others DONT have this problem, at all.
Matt
well i will say benchmarking isnt a totally conclusive. although there isnt any other method of tangible scoreing as of yet. However i will say that if your phone is laggy then your benchmarks are a good way to test why.
scoreing varies when you have active apps in the background unknowingly.
also if you flashed a new rom and kept your old kernel that will dramatically reduce your scores. check out some other kernels for your new rom and see if that makes a difference.
try flashing back to stock and deleting the kernel, then flash the CM7 rom without the kernel in your system and run a test.
theres a lot of things that will change your scoreing.
let me know what you get out of this.
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well i will say benchmarking isnt a totally conclusive. although there isnt any other method of tangible scoreing as of yet. However i will say that if your phone is laggy then your benchmarks are a good way to test why.
scoreing varies when you have active apps in the background unknowingly.
also if you flashed a new rom and kept your old kernel that will dramatically reduce your scores. check out some other kernels for your new rom and see if that makes a difference.
try flashing back to stock and deleting the kernel, then flash the CM7 rom without the kernel in your system and run a test.
theres a lot of things that will change your scoreing.
let me know what you get out of this.
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I came from ARHD with fauxs kernel. I did a superwipe and then flashed cm7-1 and then flashed fauxs kernel. Everything was great until I tried any of the new CM7's...Just tried cm7-6 and got a WHOPPING 3000!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!
I knew it would be low, just playing with the phone. I find it so weird that going back to cm7-1 fixes everything.
Either their new updates kill my performance for whatever reason, or going from one cm7 build to another is a no go. (I did a superwipe just to be sure when going from alpha1 to alpha 5).
Damnit.
If it werent for seeing others with good scores, I would blame cm7 or faux's kernel. Its got to be some little quirk with my phone. (And a few others).
Matt

What is killing my phone's performance?

Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
petrivka said:
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
petrivka said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
Still Charged Up
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
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Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms
Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
jco23 said:
my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
petrivka said:
Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
dwitherell said:
Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...
petrivka said:
...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
CalPolyRock said:
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?

[Q] Unlocked, rooted, Franco kernel...now what?

Last night I finally mustered the courage to unlock my bootloader, root and flash Franco (which sounds dirty...), mostly for the improved battery life. I installed Greenify and Titanium, and I'm intrigued by Xposed, so I'll probably give that a go...but now what? What are the essential things I should do with my rooted Nexus 5?
My only "parameters" are that I want to stick with stock ROM (unless someone can make a compelling argument otherwise) and that I want to optimize battery life without compromising performance.
Your insights are much appreciated!
Backup and read. We can't advise any more than that.
Other than tibu, the only thing I use root for is an ad blocker, adaway is good.
I started my Nexus 5 with Cataclysm ROM, very close to stock with added features. No updates nightly like others, stays pretty much with Google stock yet the customization is what I needed. I'd check it out to see if it fits your needs. I also flashed the bionic optimization mods since I run ART but dalvik/bionic mods exist since Xposed currently isn't supported on ART (testing to see if any benefits as of now). Franco is good choice for kernel, waiting to see once r33 is released since very good chance of code change and WAY better battery as stated by the beta testers (minus current beta tester reboots and the memory issue). Mostly, since sticking near stock, the combinations of all these are all I personally needed. Make sure of nandroid before flashing since something may happen but I have not run into any issues yet.
+1 what he said ^^
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install some system applications - for battery stats, CPU app(if you didn't buy franco's app), wakelock detector. If you are searching to get best battery life without losing performance, you will need to try different kernels (no need to remove and re flash ROM, just flash kernel zip files throught recovery). Essentially, you can try multi ROM feature (there is a thread about it), and try different ROM/kernel combinations, without losing/restoring your data, to find what is best for you. hope this helps

[Q] Why is my N5 so slow ?

I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0

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