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[Discussion]Whatever happened to BBM for Android?

They were supposed to launch the app on 21.09.2013, and then supposedly, their servers couldn't take the load. Last I heard about it was a tweet 8 days ago saying that they are "100% committed" to launching the app on Android and ios.
Unbelievable... that they should take so long, considering their expertise.

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dehaani said:
They blamed the leaked apk for causing technical problems with the servers prior to the official launch.
TBH I was curious to see and try BBM. I tried it and now I'm not interested. I also think BlackBerry needs an attitude adjustment.
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Did it work when you tried it? I too tried but it didn't work.
I have been waiting for it since June (I do think Whatsapp isn't completely baked yet), and I do now think they've given up on it.

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dehaani said:
The first one I tried didn't work but the second one I got the day before the planned launch worked fine.
So I'm one of the 1.1 million people to blame for you not getting to try it. Sorry
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Ha!
But seriously... to think they need more than two weeks to fix a glitch. And then there are always updates.
What are they building? The Taj Mahal??

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Back in Beta
The users in the beta program for BBM for the android platform is saying that it's back in beta, with a screenshot showing the download page showing a ver. "100.0.0.71".
Hopefully this doesn't leak and it's back online in the next 2 weeks at least

_jussyy said:
The users in the beta program for BBM for the android platform is saying that it's back in beta, with a screenshot showing the download page showing a ver. "100.0.0.71".
Hopefully this doesn't leak and it's back online in the next 2 weeks at least
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Hope it lives up to expectations this time.
However, with so much going on with Blackberry, I now have doubts if this app will ever see the light of day.

According to a news site today:
In an interview to Reuters, Frank Boulben, BlackBerry's chief marketing officer, said he expects the BBM to launch on Android and iOS "within days," adding that the company is confident that it fixed issues that arose after the initial cross-platform launch of the messaging service last month.
...within days.......

[Discussion] Why I would never again buy Huawei Phone! And why you shouldn't too!

FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
I have Huawei P9. Looking at their Update policy I am not happy with it. P8 is not going to get a Nougat update which is SHAME! Not even 2 years of OS support... What a joke. This means My P9 most likely will not updated to a newer version after Nougat... Which means I will never again pay so much money for something that won't get at least 2 new OS updates (whole version).
Next: Nougat update. It's a complete JOKE. What's new? Split screen, App drawer (lol what innovation here!), couple redesign small things... Take a look at Samsung. They are actually adding new stuff... New apps that are useful: Password manager which makes a bigger use of the fingerprint scanner. Note app. New other stuff. And to be honest their Skin looks so much better. Colors are better. Did you see the ugly Black and Dark Blue colors on the Quick toggles on Huawei Nougat? Damn the guy who came with this idea should be fired as soon as possible! No Double tap to wake up, no raise to wake up... But hey they have Knuckle gestures.. Never used them? What a sick person will knock on his phone.. So dumb... Everytime I want to check my screen I have to look for the fingerprint or power button, chick with case makes a little harder to press everytime the power button, in the dark it's super annoying when you mistake it with Volume down... It's just annoying. Give me something easier. Wave to wake up, raise, double tap... Give me all of them and let me choose...
Next: Icons with app drawer are ridiculously BIG! I guess Huawei designers know nothing about aesthetics or don't care...
Next: Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. I had iPhone and Samsung phones in the past. I really like Stock apps for notes, they are Free, no ads and easy to use.. And they sync with a Google account... This is not the case here.. There is just half baked app, made for 10 minutes while most likely the dude what on the WC...
So many stock Bloat but no Reminders app... Again! Did you try to set simple reminder without using Google Now? I did.. You need to go to Calendar, make Event, turn 100 option some ON, some OFF... Just give me a simple App like on iOS to make a Reminder in 10 secs.. Is this so hard? I guess it's so much easier than making 10 apps that no one is using...
Next: Nothing about Daydream... I guess it won't work with P9...
Next: Again Updates: Sammy released 4 BETA updates, iOS releases many Betas to make sure everything is OK when the final is released to the public.. Huawei still on 1st beta!!!! And most likely this will be the last... We will get Official release full of bugs and will have to wait months for a fix! Thank you Huawei!!!
Next: Huawei is one of the last OEMs that still hasn't uploaded their Stock apps on the Play Store. And we need to wait Months if there is a problem with some of the stock apps! Did you use the stock Huawei keyboard? Did you see how outdated it is? Doesn't have even all the emojis... Not talking about he look from 2008....
Next: Video recording software. Pixel uses software stabilization too, but it's so much better. Video recording quality is ridiculous for a phone at this price... Again I think someone did the coding while was doing his work on the WC... If Pixel can have a lot better recording with software stabilization why we should settle with suck a Joke?
This is why I won't buy another phone from Huawei. Too much negatives for me. And feeling sorry I didn't get the S7... The metal build was more important for me, but i did a mistake.. Should have taken the Glass.. Obviously other OEMs are doing a lot better job...
P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !

What's the problem if we're currently using Nougat Public Beta? I don't see any fallback. The official will be rolled out sooner or later.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.

guitarsmurf2501 said:
Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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I am not saying it's a bad phone. It's a great phone, but the support is kinda poor. I am not rushing for the Nougat. I don't mind waiting if they will release a really stable version. Not happy that they are on the 1st beta and maybe this will be last and while most problems will be fixed, while they fix them most likely there will be a new one. And there is not a big improvement in Nougat. They could expand some things, make them better. It most of the time color change...
Don't mind the bloat too, I put all the stuff in a folder and forget they exist.
As I said the phone is great, but they could work a little better on the software.

The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.

dkionline said:
The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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Yeah. Have nothing else to do, decided to troll. Nowadays if you say something people disagree is trolling.
Here in Bulgaria - Beta 1. In the official beta thread no reports for another update, but you got 3.. Strange.

Well the P8 won't be updated due to the same reasons as the Xperia Z3 from Sony. The Kirin used in the sP8 simply is not compatible with Vulkan and therefore Googles Certification Process for Android 7. As this does not happen regularly, you should be able to see updates for your P9 for at least 2 years i guess.
MartinDimchev said:
FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
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P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
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Thread Cleaned. Please stay on topic and respectful to each other. Else Thread will be closed.

Are you invited for beta test? If not, what is the cust for bulgaria?
Why more betas than stable?
Better is to modify 6.0 and make a backup, if 7.0 got bugs in first global releases, then u can go back.
Why we need the same like other manufacture? Its enough now.

For every stuff have their pros / cons no one the best just find the one that fit for you, Huawei do good progress (not the best) and I dint see any new in software in other phone all are same / running on native Android ,you can go for non OEM firmware phone if need more software modification , but Huawei phone I think thay made for standard / daily driver like Apple...

Sounds like the op should have gone to Samsung, you are basically criticising the huawei because its not a samsung.....
I came from samsung and most of the things you point out as negatives are positives to me.
Placement of fingerprint scanner is perfect, touchwiz is awful and filled to the brim with bloat and ugly icons.
You complain about updates, just buy a samsung and see how long before you end up rooting it just so you can get an update or remove bloatware.
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Some of these points are valid, however, the software is as it is because Huawei is a Chinese brand. Huawei is huge in china, and in china, this software is what sells. And if you don't like the stock apps, just download new ones. If you don't like the launcher, download a new one. That is the beauty of android. There are points of EMUI that I don't like either, but most of them I was able to fix by downloading apps and customizing what I could in the settings.

Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway

africa89 said:
Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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How do you know how bad is a phone without using it at least for a month? Do they write the Cons in your country? Because here they don't. Yeah I will install a garage rom to fix my phone...
If I knew how bad this phone will be I was going to get the S7 without thinking twice...
I don't get people like you... Why don't you keep your pointless opinion for yourself. What, do only people with positive experience should write here? I am sharing my experience with this phone. And hope it will help to people who are thinking about getting this phone, thinking it's a great deal and great phone... I don't want people the give their money like me for something that's not worth it... If they read this and still want the phone at least they know some of the flaws and problems they may see and know they can live it it..

And why you shouldn't too!
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Nah, my next phone will definitely be from Huawei. I love it.

Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm

spring80 said:
Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.

MartinDimchev said:
In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!

safariking said:
Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!

MartinDimchev said:
Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Internet cable doesn't fit in my phone so i cant cut it

February 2020 Security update where is it?

Did Xiaomi forgot it? What happens?

It's still February and we will get it next week. Keep calm!

Coronavirus happened?

When the device first launched, we used to get updates in the first week of the month, but as the time went by we started getting them by the end of the month. We will get it. But don't keep your hopes up, it'll just be a mere security update and 'bug fixes'. Most probably.

marstonpear said:
When the device first launched, we used to get updates in the first week of the month, but as the time went by we started getting them by the end of the month. We will get it. But don't keep your hopes up, it'll just be a mere security update and 'bug fixes'. Most probably.
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So Xiaomi changed its update pattern again. I hope this will be the sign of Android 10 update. I cant believe we are still in Android 9. Yesterday Google released first Android 11 developer preview.

Cappucinto said:
It's still February and we will get it next week. Keep calm!
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How can you be sure?

MercilessSinner said:
Coronavirus happened?
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Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?

perfect_ said:
Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?
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Idk where they live but one of their factory is actually in Wuhan, and they were closed for a couple of weeks.

perfect_ said:
Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?
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Not to mention, some neighboring provinces in China are also affected with the virus, not just Wuhan.

I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.

marstonpear said:
I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.
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For the price its an ok phone. However most likely this was my first and last Xiaomi phone.

Would not be surprised to see them use the virus as a. Excuse to drop updates on the device, would prefer if they communicated but they seem to just ignore us, problem being is the one program is not profitable for them selling as they cannot load advertising in to the device

Update bug question
the new update that rolled out about a week ago now (at least for the s9+), and I'm wondering what bugs this one has. I had to back up my stuff and factory reset my phone to get some of the bugs out. I'm still noticing some other things I'm not crazy about even after that reset, though my phone is working MUCH better now. Can someone who has it give me their input before I do the update? Thanks!

BorderlineBoi said:
the new update that rolled out about a week ago now (at least for the s9+), and I'm wondering what bugs this one has. I had to back up my stuff and factory reset my phone to get some of the bugs out. I'm still noticing some other things I'm not crazy about even after that reset, though my phone is working MUCH better now. Can someone who has it give me their input before I do the update? Thanks!
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Its Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite forum. You need to write that to S9+ forum.

rockycocky said:
Would not be surprised to see them use the virus as a. Excuse to drop updates on the device, would prefer if they communicated but they seem to just ignore us, problem being is the one program is not profitable for them selling as they cannot load advertising in to the device
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China ambassador said: We found a cure. Its in Test stage.

andraslate said:
For the price its an ok phone. However most likely this was my first and last Xiaomi phone.
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Same. But Google forces oems to use features as a default. If oem wants to take Android 10 certificate on his new phone Google forces them to use Cam2Api as a default. Google gives me hope in a good way.
More force to the Oems for new features = Better phones
Google knows if they leave the choices to Oems this will cause deep differencies between phones. I am glad they understand that.
For example:
Gcam vs Stock Mi A2 Lite camera. You know the difference. Its like day and night. Same hardware but better results.

marstonpear said:
I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.
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Google and Qualcomm trying to make everything updateable they just need time.
Project Mainline
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-project-mainline-security/
More Project Mainline features added in Android 11
One day we are gonna install new Android OS updates like Windows 10 or Linux. But not now.

perfect_ said:
Same. But Google forces oems to use features as a default. If oem wants to take Android 10 certificate on his new phone Google forces them to use Cam2Api as a default. Google gives me hope in a good way.
More force to the Oems for new features = Better phones
Google knows if they leave the choices to Oems this will cause deep differencies between phones. I am glad they understand that.
For example:
Gcam vs Stock Mi A2 Lite camera. You know the difference. Its like day and night. Same hardware but better results.
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I didn't know Google forced OEMs to enable Cam2API. Good to know. Let's see what Xiaomi is gonna do about this haha.
perfect_ said:
Google and Qualcomm trying to make everything updateable they just need time.
Project Mainline
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-project-mainline-security/
More Project Mainline features added in Android 11
One day we are gonna install new Android OS updates like Windows 10 or Linux. But not now.
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One day we will have flying cars, what is your point? This device won't even get Android 11. Your statement is not only irrelevant but also unhelpful in this scenario.

marstonpear said:
One day we will have flying cars, what is your point? This device won't even get Android 11. Your statement is not only irrelevant but also unhelpful in this scenario.
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I just predict the future for future phones.

Either wait for Xiaomi or go custom rom... I'll wait until the end of March if they don't provide the upgrade I will

Question What is the best update?

Hello guys, I am still running on WW_18.0840.2103.26.
What is the best version to update to? For "best" I mean best battery life, good temperature without sacrificing game performance and not crashing. I've read positive feedbacks on verson .229, but I wonder what do You guys suggest.
Also, do I have to install each update one by one or go straight to the newer version?
Thank You in advance

I tought it was an easy question, is this the right forum to post in?

The problem is not your questions but the lack of actual users that have this phone and also use XDA. Its such a small number you are unlikely to get a fast reply. You also did not specify which phone you have. Is its the 5? 5S?
I have the 5S Pro and my update from 3/31/22 is stable and works great. There are however more updates since then, I just havent done it yet.

morphius88 said:
The problem is not your questions but the lack of actual users that have this phone and also use XDA. Its suck a small number you are unlikely to get a fast reply. You also did not specify which phone you have. Is its the 5? 5S?
I have the 5S Pro and my update from 3/31/22 is stable and works great. There are however more updates since then, I just havent done it yet.
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You are right in every point you made! I have a rog phone 5.
Thank You for your answer.

Oxydrix said:
You are right in every point you made! I have a rog phone 5.
Thank You for your answer.
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Your last update is over year old. Personally I would at least update to the latest android 11 update. If you are not a fan of Android 12 UI you can skip it. Android 11 support for the 5 went up to 3/14/22 (WW-18.0840.2201.229) I believe. I am on Android 12 and have no issues as far as I can tell however I bought the phone with Android 12 already on it so I dont know how Android 11 is on the 5S Pro to compare to.

morphius88 said:
Your last update is over year old. Personally I would at least update to the latest android 11 update. If you are not a fan of Android 12 UI you can skip it. Android 11 support for the 5 went up to 3/14/22 (WW-18.0840.2201.229) I believe. I am on Android 12 and have no issues as far as I can tell however I bought the phone with Android 12 already on it so I dont know how Android 11 is on the 5S Pro to compare to.
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Thank You for your answer. Do you play games on it? Does it lag/fps drop?

Oxydrix said:
Thank You for your answer. Do you play games on it? Does it lag/fps drop?
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Yes, I play Call of Duty, Apex Legends and some random small games like Solitaire or Sudoku. I havent really noticed any lag outside of one time. Not sure what happened but I was around 20% battery and the phone wasnt even hot (Maybe its because I plugged in the charger about 10 mins prior to this?). This was like 5 days ago, haven't had that since. If I remember, I will try to watch the FPS and see if it drops when the phone gets hot.

Version WW-31.0810.1226.84
There are only two times not to be on the newest update. One is when you are talking about an iPhone or console where they may not have jailbroken, rooted, or designed a CFW for it yet and you want to maximize your chances of being compatible. The second is when it is a major Android version update and you have software that is no longer compatible or the design has changed in a way that you absolutely refuse to adapt.
The theory that older versions outperformed newer ones is an archaic one. It dates back to when there were 100 custom ROMs floating around trying to release Android versions as the code was published. Android 12 has been running on devices since October of 2021. It's not experimental in the least.

twistedumbrella said:
Version WW-31.0810.1226.84
There are only two times not to be on the newest update. One is when you are talking about an iPhone or console where they may not have jailbroken, rooted, or designed a CFW for it yet and you want to maximize your chances of being compatible. The second is when it is a major Android version update and you have software that is no longer compatible or the design has changed in a way that you absolutely refuse to adapt.
The theory that older versions outperformed newer ones is an archaic one. It dates back to when there were 100 custom ROMs floating around trying to release Android versions as the code was published. Android 12 has been running on devices since October of 2021. It's not experimental in the least.
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Thank You for your answer, btw I don't understand what do you mean.
I see that A12 is not experimental, but literally 99% of people with rog 5 are having trouble with it ->
1) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60404/rog-phone-5-android-12-review ;
2) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60417/performance-beast-rog5 .
Maybe I get it wrong, but seems like you say that A12 is fine and works good.

Oxydrix said:
Thank You for your answer, btw I don't understand what do you mean.
I see that A12 is not experimental, but literally 99% of people with rog 5 are having trouble with it ->
1) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60404/rog-phone-5-android-12-review ;
2) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60417/performance-beast-rog5 .
Maybe I get it wrong, but seems like you say that A12 is fine and works good.
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Works fine on my end, but mine isn't a conversion.
It's really not 99% of people having problems. It's that 99% of people that are posting about it are the ones who did have problems.

Works fine on my 5S Pro as well. Although I got it with A12 already on it so I cant really have a comparison. However coming from a OnePlus 8T with A12, this is way smoother and way way less bugs.

twistedumbrella said:
Works fine on my end, but mine isn't a conversion.
It's really not 99% of people having problems. It's that 99% of people that are posting about it are the ones who did have problems.
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I agree that it is more probable that posts come from people complaining rather than complimenting, and You also got a really good point that most of the trouble could be related to conversion. Btw lots of people complaining with fried motherboards from update on non-converted unit get me thinking about quality check.
Pretty sure that is not normal that I (and lots of other rog users) am scared to update my phone.

Question Whatever happened to the March stock update?

Its later then normal?

no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why

I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon

Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?

My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though

boorog said:
I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected

Tracker31 said:
you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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Got my wife the 23U and no noticable difference from the 22U. Just an update to what was already created. Agree with you 100%.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.

Tomadock said:
Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Haha. The "alright! I'm updated," until after the reboot feeling. I get it.

avid_droid said:
My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware

HipKat said:
Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Really? Who would've known(sarcasm).

Tracker31 said:
no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
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A quick Google search would've told you rather than you coming here and posting bs.
QPR3 kicking off on the 13th, do the math.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Exactly, I don't understand why people are all up and arms about the monthly being late. Are you in a rush for something? If you have ants in your pants and itching to update something, just reflash your current version to curb your addiction. Everyone needs to relax and stop opening meaningless threads. Be patient and just wait for the update to come out.

Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol

otonieru said:
Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.

SilentEYE said:
And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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Well, consider that samsung, within one month, sold 1.1 million unit of s23 series alone globally, and those series been updated/getting march 2023 update,
i'd say, 1 million then.
number aside. I agree about being bug free. Which, surprisingly, exactly how it goes so far for my s23u.

Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?

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Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.

bobby janow said:
Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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the one big important thing against Sammy is Knox and Warranty lose when bootloader unlock. You w8 big part of new product because you want to keep warranty.

Unrelated to the update scenarios, I'll say this...I had the pixel 5 and swapped to a Samsung note 20 ultra which I used until getting the p7p. If I'm honest, the note has a way more premium feel to it, holding it, looking at it, using it blows the p7p out of the water. I've been swapping back and forth between the 2 and even at 3 cycles old the Samsung holds it's own.