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Time to finalize the order

I received the email this morning to finalize my order.
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Same here. Finalized my order, now just have to wait for a shipping notification.

I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?

I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
Goronok said:
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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daijizai said:
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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The key difference is that we usually have reviews (or at least hastily done hands-on previews) in hand before forking over money for other flagships. Nobody has a review on this yet.
Sure, reviews aren't perfect but they answer a LOT of the questions that we all have about this thing. Face it, Essential's communication has been pretty poor leading up to right now. And specs aren't everything.
Example: If Essential says "Our phone runs Android well and it's buttery smooth", would you trust that as much as if any other reputable reviewer said the same thing?

daijizai said:
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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You're saying every flagship phone is exactly the same. Pick something with an 835 chip and everything else is identical; picture quality, battery life, screen quality, warranty support.... list goes on.
Nobody other than Essential employees know how the camera performs. You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.

I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.

Goronok said:
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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True! i don't even know the full specs of this phone.. Lol
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spotmark said:
I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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They have a 15 day return policy if you buy from Essential in the US. I'm probably gonna buy but only because of the 100% money back (and free return shipping) policy.

I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!

dca1970 said:
I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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Same here. Been with HTC since the M8 and Samsung before that. Was going for the Pixel 2 this year until this came out.
Willing to give them a try.
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Goronok said:
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15 day return policy

I'm all in. As other's noted, 15-day return policy. If it sucks, it goes back.
Hardware wise I think it will perform, and I think android will operate fine. Just my belief based on who's doing this thing.
My only hesitation before pulling the trigger was how long it will take to have developers putting a rom together that I can abandoned all tings Google. I'm currently on a Nexus 6p with no GApps, running a secured kernel and ROM, FDroid, Amazon, and side loading for apps. I want to get to the same place on this sucker. I'm not developer enough to make my own ROM. Though the idea of building from source seems like a fun challenge.

I think my biggest hesitation is in how they worded the return policy. "Disabling security features" warrants denied return. I wonder if this means the device will be permanently altered by unlocking the bootloader - eg.. Sony with wiping the TA partition permanently degrading photo quality, or Samsung and the knox crap.
Obviously I wouldn't unlock the bootloader in the 15 day return window - but I want to be able to unlock the bootloader at SOME point with the option to put it back to stock without marring the device.
So many questions, so few answers..

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You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
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He's done nothing? He only co-founded the biggest cellular phone operating system ever. Besides that, also co-founded another couple of million/billion dollar companies. I would put a little weight, maybe more than a little into something he has touched. Just my opinion.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table

Bought mine today. Ships within a week w/ 2-3 day Fedex; i'm hoping for delivery by Fri 25th, but i haven't gotten that email yet. No cases for it... hmm. I think they might be taking the durability factor a little far for there to be no cases available at launch. But I for one think Rubin's name brings a lot to the table and will be very surprised if the phone he's essentially (ha) staking his career on is a flop.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
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We get it, you're skeptical. You're more of a wait and see type of guy. Smart move.

Yeah I broke down and confirmed my reserved pre-order. If I hate it, I'll return it. A good 7-10 days of steady use should determine if it's a keeper. I think selling on swappa is not the way to go as I believe initial resale value will be low unless reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Time will tell!
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Does anyone know if this camera has portrait mode. May seem silly but I don't won't to lose that feature I have with my op5

Anyone know if the Sprint version is unlocked?

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately

pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

pbedard said:
Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

kingdazy said:
No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

pbedard said:
Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

loopytee said:
I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

loopytee said:
I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

kingdazy said:
Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

6 weeks deep!

So here I am, 6 weeks later with my p40 pro, I have completely indulged in the world of Huawei mobile services & Im increasing the level of my knowledge around certain apps and alternatives, The biggest one thanks to @linux25 for recommending it in a previous thread regarding vanced, I was a bit unsure on how to do it at one point, BUT its live. So that's YouTube ticked off :highfive:
other than that I think the obvious alternatives are there now and to be fair im not bothered about what I use for them, My gmail I use Huaweis own email app, It does the same thing Ive never been one for google pay as I think its a rapid way of being skint really early after payday lol. Ive just recently downloaded the Tom Tom app, which I love, clean and easy to use and on my adventures over the weekend in the campervan I gave it a good go and well yeah it got me to a to b easily.
So the question remains of what other google apps do I need that there isn't alternatives for? Personally ive run dry on problems and im free flowing with solutions
6 weeks in and im glad I got this device!

After Much searching for a new phone mine is being delivered today.
I hope I get on with it, coming over from a Google Pixel 2xl.
Eyes wide open and not too worried about Google services etc.

Yep I feel pretty similar at this point.
I'll be honest prior to actually owning this device I was a bit skeptical about the whole "HMS" thing and their alternatives being true replacements for some of GMS, and not just plugged holes - and my original thought was to side load GMS - I was really wrong! The Huawei Cloud is super clean, and I love how all my photos from my Mate 10 Pro and P30 Pro sync over to my P40 Pro in separate folders on all 3 devices. Seeing how well this has been executed has definitely made me intrigued to see what else they have to offer going forward.
YouTube through the browser just wasn't going to be a full term solution for me, but Vanced is a game changer I wish I had even when I was using GMS based Huaweis! (It's now on the P30 Pro also)
I do wish there was a way to get individual apps working (including niche ones) using split installers without having to fully side-load GMS onto the device!
Have yet to give TomTom a go, have been using Waze for a year and minus the odd wild goose chase it puts you on occasionally I do still think its better than GMaps (although the similarities are getting closer)
Get Barclays working, and apps accessible for general consumers a little bit easier and I think Huawei might have been done a favour....

Found it really similar TBH. No real issues i still find the odd app that doesn't work like the Starbucks app. In fairness that helps me out because I will be spending less on coffee.

Having Android as a foundation on new Huawei devices is a blessing and with more and more developers coming on board daily it is a matter of time before HMS is the next best "since sliced bread" there are very few apps that I need from a GMS device such as Sky News, Sky Bet etc but am hopefully these will make there way across soon enough.
A big one for me would be gaming payments for example as a time pass I play Candy Crush on GMS but on HMS I do not have the functions to buy credits (if that makes sense)

TechPeck said:
Yep I feel pretty similar at this point.
I'll be honest prior to actually owning this device I was a bit skeptical about the whole "HMS" thing and their alternatives being true replacements for some of GMS, and not just plugged holes - and my original thought was to side load GMS - I was really wrong! The Huawei Cloud is super clean, and I love how all my photos from my Mate 10 Pro and P30 Pro sync over to my P40 Pro in separate folders on all 3 devices. Seeing how well this has been executed has definitely made me intrigued to see what else they have to offer going forward.
YouTube through the browser just wasn't going to be a full term solution for me, but Vanced is a game changer I wish I had even when I was using GMS based Huaweis! (It's now on the P30 Pro also)
I do wish there was a way to get individual apps working (including niche ones) using split installers without having to fully side-load GMS onto the device!
Have yet to give TomTom a go, have been using Waze for a year and minus the odd wild goose chase it puts you on occasionally I do still think its better than GMaps (although the similarities are getting closer)
Get Barclays working, and apps accessible for general consumers a little bit easier and I think Huawei might have been done a favour....
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If they could split it that would be good, however I would have to have a tutorial every time lol

I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?

skyisblue79 said:
I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?
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Probably not a helpful answer but why would you need it? I could understand when Google's software was more colour accurate than Huaweis but I don't think this is the case anymore.

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I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?
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I would have to agree with the comment below regarding the mod...But no idea lol

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I would have to agree with the comment below regarding the mod...But no idea lol
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I tried a GCam mod out on my Mate 10 Pro a few years back, sharpness looked great but could never get the colours to work properly, always looked super flat and un-contrasty.

you must use Snapdragon device if u prefer Gcam on your phone

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No GCam version works on current Huawei phones. You would need to unlock the bootloader and enable camera2 api, but that's not possible.
Only GCam GO works. But no point in using it on the P40 Pro.

tiggrr1 said:
After Much searching for a new phone mine is being delivered today.
I hope I get on with it, coming over from a Google Pixel 2xl.
Eyes wide open and not too worried about Google services etc.
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How are you getting on with the handset?

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How are you getting on with the handset?
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Sorry for the late reply.
I'm working night shifts and have only switched the phone on for a few minutes to see how things look.
I have to say it feels great in the hand and it is a step up from my 2xl.
Super slow motion video is amazing and I'm surprised to say that I like the look and feel of EMUI.
Sorry not much help to you but I intend to have a good play around at the weekend and turn it into my daily driver.

to add to this post - does any one know of a way to cast the phone other than wireless projection? I have both a chromecast and a fire stick - would be super useful for me! Plus im currently in the middle of converting a van into a campervan - so ill be running a 12 v TV but it wont be a smart TV - So ill be using a hotspot to connect either one of the devices (chromecast/firestick) so which ever one can (if possible) would be amazing

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to add to this post - does any one know of a way to cast the phone other than wireless projection? I have both a chromecast and a fire stick - would be super useful for me! Plus im currently in the middle of converting a van into a campervan - so ill be running a 12 v TV but it wont be a smart TV - So ill be using a hotspot to connect either one of the devices (chromecast/firestick) so which ever one can (if possible) would be amazing
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You could use an ago called Allcast, I have found this worked well for me. Can cast media, not sure about projection.

id say all cast works best and is compatible with multiple different apps so everything son one place

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
So here I am, 6 weeks later with my p40 pro, I have completely indulged in the world of Huawei mobile services & Im increasing the level of my knowledge around certain apps and alternatives, The biggest one thanks to @linux25 for recommending it in a previous thread regarding vanced, I was a bit unsure on how to do it at one point, BUT its live. So that's YouTube ticked off :highfive:
other than that I think the obvious alternatives are there now and to be fair im not bothered about what I use for them, My gmail I use Huaweis own email app, It does the same thing Ive never been one for google pay as I think its a rapid way of being skint really early after payday lol. Ive just recently downloaded the Tom Tom app, which I love, clean and easy to use and on my adventures over the weekend in the campervan I gave it a good go and well yeah it got me to a to b easily.
So the question remains of what other google apps do I need that there isn't alternatives for? Personally ive run dry on problems and im free flowing with solutions
6 weeks in and im glad I got this device!
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Huawei have done a great job in a short space of time. the big question is, what do y0u think is next big step for Huawei?

jericho246 said:
No GCam version works on current Huawei phones. You would need to unlock the bootloader and enable camera2 api, but that's not possible.
Only GCam GO works. But no point in using it on the P40 Pro.
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Yeah makes sense. I like gcam mainly for its hdr and AI capabilities. I think huawei is doing very well in those aspects as well :good:

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Yeah makes sense. I like gcam mainly for its hdr and AI capabilities. I think huawei is doing very well in those aspects as well :good:
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Agreed. There's always room for improvement though, so GCam would be a very nice option for those interested - me included. I always had GCam installed on my previous non-Huawei phones. Sad I can't do it on my P40 Pro, but it is what it is.

upgrade to android 11 or stay on 10

it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/

gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.

update to 11 with no second thoughts

Upgrade. No 2nd thoughts about it.

ggrant3876 said:
I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage

gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.

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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess

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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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If it does happen and I seriously doubt it, I'll just reflash with odin and restore my backup. My glass is half full, not half empty. I have friends on other forums running 11 beta on Pixels with no issues.

Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
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Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
Sent from my SM-N986W using XDA Labs
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Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.

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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker

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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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LOL. I don't think I lucked out. I think issues with OS updates are far less common than you think. I'd say you are definitely in the minority.
I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid. I've had almost every Moto, LG, Samsung, Nexus, and Pixel. I've been through beta OS updates, official updates, side loaded updates, unofficial ported updates, you name it.
You're going back 5 YEARS and saying because an update broke your favorite application, that Google/Samsung updates too often? Is every update perfect? No, but they certainly don't break everything the way you think they do.

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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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No you are absolutely right. I'm out in Canada and if memory serves me right we got Android 10 at the beginning of January a month or so after the US. It was the years prior that the OS update came out with the S series release. And to your point Samsung has stepped up their game, tremendously. It's right after the Pixels and Oneplus which is not too shabby. And getting faster to boot. No complaints here. :good:
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Thats what I was thinking, but couldn't remember 100%. Unless there's somd major issues, it looks like we're on the same timeline for Android 11, since the beta is already out for the international S20 series. US Note 20 won't be too far behind.

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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Spot on. What a wrenched mess.
My 10+ is still running well on Pie.
Google is insane to emulate Apple.
I don't think Google will fix it, another Vista.
Probably stay on Pie for the life of this phone and hope Google regains their sphincter control with 12 or 13...

So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.[/QUOTE]
you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it

gloege said:
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it[/QUOTE]
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.

I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the info i have a few apps i want to get off my lg g4 that are a miss in the android store

Question Whatever happened to the March stock update?

Its later then normal?

no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why

I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon

Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?

My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though

boorog said:
I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected

Tracker31 said:
you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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Got my wife the 23U and no noticable difference from the 22U. Just an update to what was already created. Agree with you 100%.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.

Tomadock said:
Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Haha. The "alright! I'm updated," until after the reboot feeling. I get it.

avid_droid said:
My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware

HipKat said:
Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Really? Who would've known(sarcasm).

Tracker31 said:
no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
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A quick Google search would've told you rather than you coming here and posting bs.
QPR3 kicking off on the 13th, do the math.

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Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Exactly, I don't understand why people are all up and arms about the monthly being late. Are you in a rush for something? If you have ants in your pants and itching to update something, just reflash your current version to curb your addiction. Everyone needs to relax and stop opening meaningless threads. Be patient and just wait for the update to come out.

Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol

otonieru said:
Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.

SilentEYE said:
And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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Well, consider that samsung, within one month, sold 1.1 million unit of s23 series alone globally, and those series been updated/getting march 2023 update,
i'd say, 1 million then.
number aside. I agree about being bug free. Which, surprisingly, exactly how it goes so far for my s23u.

Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?

HipKat said:
Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.

bobby janow said:
Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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the one big important thing against Sammy is Knox and Warranty lose when bootloader unlock. You w8 big part of new product because you want to keep warranty.

Unrelated to the update scenarios, I'll say this...I had the pixel 5 and swapped to a Samsung note 20 ultra which I used until getting the p7p. If I'm honest, the note has a way more premium feel to it, holding it, looking at it, using it blows the p7p out of the water. I've been swapping back and forth between the 2 and even at 3 cycles old the Samsung holds it's own.