Question Whatever happened to the March stock update? - Google Pixel 7 Pro

Its later then normal?

no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why

I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon

Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?

My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though

boorog said:
I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected

Tracker31 said:
you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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Got my wife the 23U and no noticable difference from the 22U. Just an update to what was already created. Agree with you 100%.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.

Tomadock said:
Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Haha. The "alright! I'm updated," until after the reboot feeling. I get it.

avid_droid said:
My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware

HipKat said:
Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Really? Who would've known(sarcasm).

Tracker31 said:
no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
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A quick Google search would've told you rather than you coming here and posting bs.
QPR3 kicking off on the 13th, do the math.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Exactly, I don't understand why people are all up and arms about the monthly being late. Are you in a rush for something? If you have ants in your pants and itching to update something, just reflash your current version to curb your addiction. Everyone needs to relax and stop opening meaningless threads. Be patient and just wait for the update to come out.

Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol

otonieru said:
Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.

SilentEYE said:
And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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Well, consider that samsung, within one month, sold 1.1 million unit of s23 series alone globally, and those series been updated/getting march 2023 update,
i'd say, 1 million then.
number aside. I agree about being bug free. Which, surprisingly, exactly how it goes so far for my s23u.

Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?

HipKat said:
Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.

bobby janow said:
Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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the one big important thing against Sammy is Knox and Warranty lose when bootloader unlock. You w8 big part of new product because you want to keep warranty.

Unrelated to the update scenarios, I'll say this...I had the pixel 5 and swapped to a Samsung note 20 ultra which I used until getting the p7p. If I'm honest, the note has a way more premium feel to it, holding it, looking at it, using it blows the p7p out of the water. I've been swapping back and forth between the 2 and even at 3 cycles old the Samsung holds it's own.

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For the love of GOD...WHEN MARSHMALLOW???

I am sooooooo tired of checking for an update. This is damn near CRIMINAL of T-Mobile to us waiting and waiting! Look we own THE FLAGSHIP of Samsung, and the top tier of T-Mobile, and yet, it just seems they can't push an update??? I called corporate a few days ago, demanding ANSWERS! The guy had the nerve to tell me "I just don't know..."....UNACCEPTABLE! I demanded to speak to ANYONE with a clue, he put on a Supervisor, who at least did what I would have done; put me on hold and do some checking. She, of course didn't get anywhere in giving me some idea, but, in a show of good faith gave me a $150 credit towards my next bill! (I took it off course!) My point is, with 6.0.1 being pushed to lesser phones, how is it we get put on the back burner and told to be patient??? I mean, it's TESTING for God's sake!!!! Marshmallow has been out since November 2015...HOW MUCH TESTING IS THERE???
Anyway, I just thought maybe someone, ANYONE in this forum might have some insight on when T-mobile and Samsung might get their S#@* together!!! (I feel better now...)
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I am sooooooo tired of checking for an update. This is damn near CRIMINAL of T-Mobile to us waiting and waiting! Look we own THE FLAGSHIP of Samsung, and the top tier of T-Mobile, and yet, it just seems they can't push an update??? I called corporate a few days ago, demanding ANSWERS! The guy had the nerve to tell me "I just don't know..."....UNACCEPTABLE! I demanded to speak to ANYONE with a clue, he put on a Supervisor, who at least did what I would have done; put me on hold and do some checking. She, of course didn't get anywhere in giving me some idea, but, in a show of good faith gave me a $150 credit towards my next bill! (I took it off course!) My point is, with 6.0.1 being pushed to lesser phones, how is it we get put on the back burner and told to be patient??? I mean, it's TESTING for God's sake!!!! Marshmallow has been out since November 2015...HOW MUCH TESTING IS THERE???
Anyway, I just thought maybe someone, ANYONE in this forum might have some insight on when T-mobile and Samsung might get their S#@* together!!! (I feel better now...)
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Glad you got your rant out, with that said it's an updated OS to a phone. Sure, it would be nice but it's not that important in the scheme of things.
Ducter said:
Glad you got your rant out, with that said it's an updated OS to a phone. Sure, it would be nice but it's not that important in the scheme of things.
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Of course, you're right. I was just expressing my frustration. All things being equal, it's almost meaningless. ...I'm just saying, as it were. Lol!
dugryce said:
Of course, you're right. I was just expressing my frustration. All things being equal, it's almost meaningless. ...I'm just saying, as it were. Lol!
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I understand completely....sometimes it's the little things in life.
Samsung have moved on to the s7 and could careless about older devices. We will get the update but not until they have free time. As long as there's custom roms and root i could careless about the update. There really haven't been a android update that made me want to upgrade . Its almost like its going backwards if you ask me
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I am sooooooo tired of checking for an update. This is damn near CRIMINAL of T-Mobile to us waiting and waiting! Look we own THE FLAGSHIP of Samsung, and the top tier of T-Mobile, and yet, it just seems they can't push an update??? I called corporate a few days ago, demanding ANSWERS! The guy had the nerve to tell me "I just don't know..."....UNACCEPTABLE! I demanded to speak to ANYONE with a clue, he put on a Supervisor, who at least did what I would have done; put me on hold and do some checking. She, of course didn't get anywhere in giving me some idea, but, in a show of good faith gave me a $150 credit towards my next bill! (I took it off course!) My point is, with 6.0.1 being pushed to lesser phones, how is it we get put on the back burner and told to be patient??? I mean, it's TESTING for God's sake!!!! Marshmallow has been out since November 2015...HOW MUCH TESTING IS THERE???
Anyway, I just thought maybe someone, ANYONE in this forum might have some insight on when T-mobile and Samsung might get their S#@* together!!! (I feel better now...)
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I understand your frustration because i created a similar topic...
Back to the topic, you know i felt the same way but i learned to cope with it. Its not really necessary to update right now, imo, because how well built 5.1.1 is for our note 5's. There isnt any vulnerabilities as far as i know.. It'd be nice to have marshmallow though, with all the new features, changes...
The only problem i had with this phone is that when i charge, it doesnt fast charge sometimes. Even when all the cords are fully plugged in. Just today in the morning, i was charging my phone and it was finally fast charging. But i wanted it to charge a little faster because i had work so i turned off my phone... 30 min later i found out it was fully charged.. so i turned it back on and guess what? It was standard charging.......... so im going to call tmobile or samsung todau after work and see what the fu**ing deal is.. because itz been like this for the past week and im getting tired of this and afraid my device will mess up from re-plugging, and rebooting everytime it does that.
geeshiet said:
I understand your frustration because i created a similar topic...
Back to the topic, you know i felt the same way but i learned to cope with it. Its not really necessary to update right now, imo, because how well built 5.1.1 is for our note 5's. There isnt any vulnerabilities as far as i know.. It'd be nice to have marshmallow though, with all the new features, changes...
The only problem i had with this phone is that when i charge, it doesnt fast charge sometimes. Even when all the cords are fully plugged in. Just today in the morning, i was charging my phone and it was finally fast charging. But i wanted it to charge a little faster because i had work so i turned off my phone... 30 min later i found out it was fully charged.. so i turned it back on and guess what? It was standard charging.......... so im going to call tmobile or samsung todau after work and see what the fu**ing deal is.. because itz been like this for the past week and im getting tired of this and afraid my device will mess up from re-plugging, and rebooting everytime it does that.
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When it's not fast charging anymore it's usually the cable going bad. Try with another cable plugged in and see if it works better.
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papi5120 said:
When it's not fast charging anymore it's usually the cable going bad. Try with another cable plugged in and see if it works better.
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I dont understand why it would go bad in less than 3 months?? I take good care of my things, one of them being the charger and cable for my note 5.... I dont have any other usb cable i can use and do not plan on buying a new one. This is fu**ing ridiculous. I expect the device and the accessories/charger that came with it to work properly and at least hold up after 3-4 years......
I was pissed off earlier because of updates, yes i know thats a bad reason but now i have a good reason why i should be really pissed off....
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I dont understand why it would go bad in less than 3 months??? I take good care of my things, one of them being the charger and cable for my note 5.... I dont have any other usb cable i can use and do not plan on buying a new one. This is fu**ing ridiculous. I expect the device and the accessories/charger that came with it to work properly and at least hold up after 3-4 years......
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Samsung cable are garbage. I've never had the cable of any of my Samsung devices ever last longer than a few months now matter how well I took care of them.
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papi5120 said:
Samsung cable are garbage. I've never had the cable of any of my Samsung devices ever last longer than a few months now matter how well I took care of them.
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If their cables are garbage, then their garbage as a whole...
I had an iphone 5s, bought it new from t-mobile. The lightning cable lasted me 20 months before it started tearing up.. i never had issues with it.
Marshmallow for the note 5 just got pushed back to Feb or March.
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Marshmallow for the note 5 just got pushed back to Feb or March.
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It's says February for the Note 5 and February/March for the S6
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As long as a wait this is mm for the note5 better be ****ing perfect and super stable
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Q- Why do you want the update? Just because its out there? This is what I never understood from people and the rants. Now I have a OnePlus that I keep and a Note 4 to root play with and test out roms. I am running MM on my OnePlus and its smooth but its not like a crazy upgrade that would make me go crazy or rant.
To each his own I get it but really what is the upgrade going to give any of us that we cant provide for ourselves. Thats a game changer for the Note 5...
No disrespect to anyone just asking.....
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It's says February for the Note 5 and February/March for the S6
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I don't think those dates apply to carrier version of the Note 5, so may be even longer.
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Samsung's cable is truly garbage, they always go bad within half year. Go get a third party charging cable, it works better. My Samsung cable quit quick charging 3 moths ago, have to plug and unplug for 5 or more times in a roll before it can quick charge.
playya said:
Q- Why do you want the update? Just because its out there? This is what I never understood from people and the rants. Now I have a OnePlus that I keep and a Note 4 to root play with and test out roms. I am running MM on my OnePlus and its smooth but its not like a crazy upgrade that would make me go crazy or rant.
To each his own I get it but really what is the upgrade going to give any of us that we cant provide for ourselves. Thats a game changer for the Note 5...
No disrespect to anyone just asking.....
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Actually, it's a good question. I've been reading about issues MM has, and now don't want it as much. I suppose it's because this is the only Note I've not rooted in order to keep Samsung Pay...I'm also frustrated seeing other phones get the update, yet this is supposed to be the best phone on the market. I called corporate and got $150 credit for ranting on them, so it does pay when you complain loud enough. Essentially, I agree, it's really no biggie anymore. No offense taken.

[Discussion] Why I would never again buy Huawei Phone! And why you shouldn't too!

FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
I have Huawei P9. Looking at their Update policy I am not happy with it. P8 is not going to get a Nougat update which is SHAME! Not even 2 years of OS support... What a joke. This means My P9 most likely will not updated to a newer version after Nougat... Which means I will never again pay so much money for something that won't get at least 2 new OS updates (whole version).
Next: Nougat update. It's a complete JOKE. What's new? Split screen, App drawer (lol what innovation here!), couple redesign small things... Take a look at Samsung. They are actually adding new stuff... New apps that are useful: Password manager which makes a bigger use of the fingerprint scanner. Note app. New other stuff. And to be honest their Skin looks so much better. Colors are better. Did you see the ugly Black and Dark Blue colors on the Quick toggles on Huawei Nougat? Damn the guy who came with this idea should be fired as soon as possible! No Double tap to wake up, no raise to wake up... But hey they have Knuckle gestures.. Never used them? What a sick person will knock on his phone.. So dumb... Everytime I want to check my screen I have to look for the fingerprint or power button, chick with case makes a little harder to press everytime the power button, in the dark it's super annoying when you mistake it with Volume down... It's just annoying. Give me something easier. Wave to wake up, raise, double tap... Give me all of them and let me choose...
Next: Icons with app drawer are ridiculously BIG! I guess Huawei designers know nothing about aesthetics or don't care...
Next: Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. I had iPhone and Samsung phones in the past. I really like Stock apps for notes, they are Free, no ads and easy to use.. And they sync with a Google account... This is not the case here.. There is just half baked app, made for 10 minutes while most likely the dude what on the WC...
So many stock Bloat but no Reminders app... Again! Did you try to set simple reminder without using Google Now? I did.. You need to go to Calendar, make Event, turn 100 option some ON, some OFF... Just give me a simple App like on iOS to make a Reminder in 10 secs.. Is this so hard? I guess it's so much easier than making 10 apps that no one is using...
Next: Nothing about Daydream... I guess it won't work with P9...
Next: Again Updates: Sammy released 4 BETA updates, iOS releases many Betas to make sure everything is OK when the final is released to the public.. Huawei still on 1st beta!!!! And most likely this will be the last... We will get Official release full of bugs and will have to wait months for a fix! Thank you Huawei!!!
Next: Huawei is one of the last OEMs that still hasn't uploaded their Stock apps on the Play Store. And we need to wait Months if there is a problem with some of the stock apps! Did you use the stock Huawei keyboard? Did you see how outdated it is? Doesn't have even all the emojis... Not talking about he look from 2008....
Next: Video recording software. Pixel uses software stabilization too, but it's so much better. Video recording quality is ridiculous for a phone at this price... Again I think someone did the coding while was doing his work on the WC... If Pixel can have a lot better recording with software stabilization why we should settle with suck a Joke?
This is why I won't buy another phone from Huawei. Too much negatives for me. And feeling sorry I didn't get the S7... The metal build was more important for me, but i did a mistake.. Should have taken the Glass.. Obviously other OEMs are doing a lot better job...
P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
What's the problem if we're currently using Nougat Public Beta? I don't see any fallback. The official will be rolled out sooner or later.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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I am not saying it's a bad phone. It's a great phone, but the support is kinda poor. I am not rushing for the Nougat. I don't mind waiting if they will release a really stable version. Not happy that they are on the 1st beta and maybe this will be last and while most problems will be fixed, while they fix them most likely there will be a new one. And there is not a big improvement in Nougat. They could expand some things, make them better. It most of the time color change...
Don't mind the bloat too, I put all the stuff in a folder and forget they exist.
As I said the phone is great, but they could work a little better on the software.
The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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Yeah. Have nothing else to do, decided to troll. Nowadays if you say something people disagree is trolling.
Here in Bulgaria - Beta 1. In the official beta thread no reports for another update, but you got 3.. Strange.
Well the P8 won't be updated due to the same reasons as the Xperia Z3 from Sony. The Kirin used in the sP8 simply is not compatible with Vulkan and therefore Googles Certification Process for Android 7. As this does not happen regularly, you should be able to see updates for your P9 for at least 2 years i guess.
MartinDimchev said:
FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
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P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
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Thread Cleaned. Please stay on topic and respectful to each other. Else Thread will be closed.
Are you invited for beta test? If not, what is the cust for bulgaria?
Why more betas than stable?
Better is to modify 6.0 and make a backup, if 7.0 got bugs in first global releases, then u can go back.
Why we need the same like other manufacture? Its enough now.
For every stuff have their pros / cons no one the best just find the one that fit for you, Huawei do good progress (not the best) and I dint see any new in software in other phone all are same / running on native Android ,you can go for non OEM firmware phone if need more software modification , but Huawei phone I think thay made for standard / daily driver like Apple...
Sounds like the op should have gone to Samsung, you are basically criticising the huawei because its not a samsung.....
I came from samsung and most of the things you point out as negatives are positives to me.
Placement of fingerprint scanner is perfect, touchwiz is awful and filled to the brim with bloat and ugly icons.
You complain about updates, just buy a samsung and see how long before you end up rooting it just so you can get an update or remove bloatware.
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Some of these points are valid, however, the software is as it is because Huawei is a Chinese brand. Huawei is huge in china, and in china, this software is what sells. And if you don't like the stock apps, just download new ones. If you don't like the launcher, download a new one. That is the beauty of android. There are points of EMUI that I don't like either, but most of them I was able to fix by downloading apps and customizing what I could in the settings.
Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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How do you know how bad is a phone without using it at least for a month? Do they write the Cons in your country? Because here they don't. Yeah I will install a garage rom to fix my phone...
If I knew how bad this phone will be I was going to get the S7 without thinking twice...
I don't get people like you... Why don't you keep your pointless opinion for yourself. What, do only people with positive experience should write here? I am sharing my experience with this phone. And hope it will help to people who are thinking about getting this phone, thinking it's a great deal and great phone... I don't want people the give their money like me for something that's not worth it... If they read this and still want the phone at least they know some of the flaws and problems they may see and know they can live it it..
And why you shouldn't too!
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Nah, my next phone will definitely be from Huawei. I love it.
Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
MartinDimchev said:
In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Internet cable doesn't fit in my phone so i cant cut it

Time to finalize the order

I received the email this morning to finalize my order.
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Same here. Finalized my order, now just have to wait for a shipping notification.
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
Goronok said:
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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The key difference is that we usually have reviews (or at least hastily done hands-on previews) in hand before forking over money for other flagships. Nobody has a review on this yet.
Sure, reviews aren't perfect but they answer a LOT of the questions that we all have about this thing. Face it, Essential's communication has been pretty poor leading up to right now. And specs aren't everything.
Example: If Essential says "Our phone runs Android well and it's buttery smooth", would you trust that as much as if any other reputable reviewer said the same thing?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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You're saying every flagship phone is exactly the same. Pick something with an 835 chip and everything else is identical; picture quality, battery life, screen quality, warranty support.... list goes on.
Nobody other than Essential employees know how the camera performs. You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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True! i don't even know the full specs of this phone.. Lol
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I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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They have a 15 day return policy if you buy from Essential in the US. I'm probably gonna buy but only because of the 100% money back (and free return shipping) policy.
I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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Same here. Been with HTC since the M8 and Samsung before that. Was going for the Pixel 2 this year until this came out.
Willing to give them a try.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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15 day return policy
I'm all in. As other's noted, 15-day return policy. If it sucks, it goes back.
Hardware wise I think it will perform, and I think android will operate fine. Just my belief based on who's doing this thing.
My only hesitation before pulling the trigger was how long it will take to have developers putting a rom together that I can abandoned all tings Google. I'm currently on a Nexus 6p with no GApps, running a secured kernel and ROM, FDroid, Amazon, and side loading for apps. I want to get to the same place on this sucker. I'm not developer enough to make my own ROM. Though the idea of building from source seems like a fun challenge.
I think my biggest hesitation is in how they worded the return policy. "Disabling security features" warrants denied return. I wonder if this means the device will be permanently altered by unlocking the bootloader - eg.. Sony with wiping the TA partition permanently degrading photo quality, or Samsung and the knox crap.
Obviously I wouldn't unlock the bootloader in the 15 day return window - but I want to be able to unlock the bootloader at SOME point with the option to put it back to stock without marring the device.
So many questions, so few answers..
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You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
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He's done nothing? He only co-founded the biggest cellular phone operating system ever. Besides that, also co-founded another couple of million/billion dollar companies. I would put a little weight, maybe more than a little into something he has touched. Just my opinion.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
Bought mine today. Ships within a week w/ 2-3 day Fedex; i'm hoping for delivery by Fri 25th, but i haven't gotten that email yet. No cases for it... hmm. I think they might be taking the durability factor a little far for there to be no cases available at launch. But I for one think Rubin's name brings a lot to the table and will be very surprised if the phone he's essentially (ha) staking his career on is a flop.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
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We get it, you're skeptical. You're more of a wait and see type of guy. Smart move.
Yeah I broke down and confirmed my reserved pre-order. If I hate it, I'll return it. A good 7-10 days of steady use should determine if it's a keeper. I think selling on swappa is not the way to go as I believe initial resale value will be low unless reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Time will tell!
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Does anyone know if this camera has portrait mode. May seem silly but I don't won't to lose that feature I have with my op5
Anyone know if the Sprint version is unlocked?

Oreo update?

Any word for oreo beta testing? Or when we will get it.. Just received oreo in open beta on my one plus 3
Don't keeps your hope high. Oreo is still months away
Rumours say beta in Nov and Dec
Release by January and Feb.
That's sammy for ya!!! Always LAST with O.S. let alone BETA program.Its a damn shame alot of us,( myself included) pay TOP $$$ for a device,just to receive a update later then ALOT OF throw away phones!! Smh!!
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That's sammy for ya!!! Always LAST with O.S. let alone BETA program.Its a damn shame alot of us,( myself included) pay TOP $$$ for a device,just to receive a update later then ALOT OF throw away phones!! Smh!!
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You realize Samsung's Android is completely different from AOSP Android, right? By the time Oreo ships to the S8 there will probably still only be like 10 apps that are officially updated for it (as in, they use features only available in Oreo). You really aren't missing much because Samsung already put much more inside Android. Because, you know, you paid top $$$
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You realize Samsung's Android is completely different from AOSP Android, right? By the time Oreo ships to the S8 there will probably still only be like 10 apps that are officially updated for it (as in, they use features only available in Oreo). You really aren't missing much because Samsung already put much more inside Android. Because, you know, you paid top $$$
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Yes sir I definitely know the difference ( NO DISRESPECT) that's why I purchased the s8+ ...I'm just overly anxious for the beta update more than others I guess.
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That's sammy for ya!!! Always LAST with O.S. let alone BETA program.Its a damn shame alot of us,( myself included) pay TOP $$$ for a device,just to receive a update later then ALOT OF throw away phones!! Smh!!
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You went into this knowing how bad they are with updates yet still paid them for the S8+. No point *****ing about it now. You knew.
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You went into this knowing how bad they are with updates yet still paid them for the S8+. No point *****ing about it now. You knew.
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Certainly NOT *****ing!!! I'm still scratching my head wondering WTF ppl are b!+C#!nG about my comments. Anyways I apologize for hijacking your post bro...thanks for the criticism ...
I remember a yr ago while on the s7e i was on this same boat waiting for Nougat. Took til atleast late Jan early feb to get N finally. Not to mention i missed the beta window. Filled up within minutes of release.
To say the least N is excellent and wont be anticipating like a junky waiting on oreo as such. I'll wait for the final release next yr. Love N. Hopefully they don't take NOTHING away from N. Just saying...

Updates are shocking!!!

Makes you wanna sell this phone!
Agree mate , seriously thinking of selling and taking a loss ..support is terrible
Totally agree ?
kevinireland11 said:
Makes you wanna sell this phone!
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What are you talking about? I have europe version updated to last .40 version with august patch. And android 11 will be here in december.
denzel09 said:
What are you talking about? I have europe version updated to last .40 version with august patch. And android 11 will be here in december.
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Great for you, not great for thousands of other that can't actually update at all, no vpn no ota updates at all, never have got one either , there website updates are still on July! It's September now, other countries already have android 11 rest of the world waits to December , there updates and the way they deliver them are crap
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*their
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*their
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Cheers haha I always get that one wrong [emoji23]
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I hate that you guys fell this way. I think this is maybe the best phone I've ever had. I've been running Android 11 for a couple days and I must say it vastly improved this phone. It fixed a lot of problems I was having and I couldn't be happier. It sucks because we have one of the only phones that can make Oneplus, Samsung and Apple fanboys jealous... IMO....
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I hate that you guys fell this way. I think this is maybe the best phone I've ever had. I've been running Android 11 for a couple days and I must say it vastly improved this phone. It fixed a lot of problems I was having and I couldn't be happier. It sucks because we have one of the only phones that can make Oneplus, Samsung and Apple fanboys jealous... IMO....
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Nono, it really is amazing phone but my problem is with my updates and allot of others, people can't update at all even with a vpn, and the customer service agent helpful at all, if it wasn't for people posting new updates I'd be stuck on may security
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kevinireland11 said:
Nono, it really is amazing phone but my problem is with my updates and allot of others, people can't update at all even with a vpn, and the customer service agent helpful at all, if it wasn't for people posting new updates I'd be stuck on may security
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Oh okay, I thought we were losing a member. I don't know why the updates are so iffy. Some regions are like clockwork and some regions aren't getting anything. Yes, the customer service is garbage.
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Oh okay, I thought we were losing a member. I don't know why the updates are so iffy. Some regions are like clockwork and some regions aren't getting anything. Yes, the customer service is garbage.
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If the updates wore as consistent as other regions it would be my perfect phone! Without a doubt.
But I'm going to wait to December when we get the android 11 update, and hope I get it
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Sucks you guys have to wait so long to get it. It's truly awesome...
Love the phone, I really do but for updates this phone sucks big time. Came from a pixel and samsung phone.. their updates are so much faster. Even for a samsung phone.
I hope the update for android 11 is a good one because I'm thinking to switch back to a pixel phone.
Let me get this straight? You want to sell your phone because you haven't had an update in the last couple of months ? Clearly you've never been a Samsung user I'm loving the phone, coming from a Samsung galaxy note 9. I now have a Snapdragon , decent base storage , and that dual battery / 30 minute fast charge is perfect for heavy usage, paired with decent battery life, +5 hour SOT over 24 hours consistently with all the bells and whistles switched on.
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Let me get this straight? You want to sell your phone because you haven't had an update in the last couple of months ? Clearly you've never been a Samsung user I'm loving the phone, coming from a Samsung galaxy note 9. I now have a Snapdragon , decent base storage , and that dual battery / 30 minute fast charge is perfect for heavy usage, paired with decent battery life, +5 hour SOT over 24 hours consistently with all the bells and whistles switched on.
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I got an update every month with my S10 plus , so yeah I so know, before the S10 updates wore crap, region settings gone no updates themes don't work fonts don't work breeno services don't work heytap cloud doesn't work, I spent 1100 pounds on this phone I expect top notch for paying that amount, because your not having these problems it's not effecting you so you can't really comment on this..... Have you looked on the updates thread about all the other problems?...
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you guys living in EU should read this to understand :
"As a side note, due to limitations of the GDPR, European users will not have access to the beta version of the software. Even if you have an eligible device, you’ll need to wait until the stable rollout of Color OS 11 before you’ll be able to install it. Users outside of Europe will be able to try the open beta if they wish."
Source : https://www.androidauthority.com/color-os-11-1157601/
But Oppo swear they will release stable version before end of 2020.
Luckily im using Fx2P asia version . I have to say COS11 is really nice update and this device is stunning
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I got an update every month with my S10 plus , so yeah I so know, before the S10 updates wore crap, region settings gone no updates themes don't work fonts don't work breeno services don't work heytap cloud doesn't work, I spent 1100 pounds on this phone I expect top notch for paying that amount, because your not having these problems it's not effecting you so you can't really comment on this..... Have you looked on the updates thread about all the other problems?...
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oh wait what
Im using CPH2025 and i got update to COS11 , im living in Vietnam
Try change VPN to VN ? which version are you in ?
I think oppo should be quicker with the updates inc security patches.
I remember reading this was one area they were looking to improve on.
I can't wait for colorOS11 but December is quite far away, hope the western market it get it much sooner.

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