Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9 - LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately

pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

kingdazy said:
No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

pbedard said:
Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

loopytee said:
I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

loopytee said:
I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

kingdazy said:
Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

Related

system dump posted on androidcentral...

Let's the rom cooking begin...
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Let's the rom cooking begin...
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It's already begun. This is a Desire HD. There is plenty already available, including CM7.
what doesnt work on cm7 for it?
Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
aNdroidnut said:
I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
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Momentarily. The Aria will still need support for CM. I'm it. This device is established and has good support already. We just need to document the procedure to root and get custom recovery on it, which will be a little more complex than the Euro DHD.
regoice, the great and mighty attn1 has come to the inspire, not sure if its a good thing or not as i still am using my aria but.... oh well.
I will have this phone when it comes out on the 13th, looking forward to some modding. I'm coming from an iphone, JB, customized etc, it's no longer any fun. Hope the roms work and the root is easily attainable, I will be back in here when i get the phone....5 days
I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
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I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
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I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
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I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
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Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
I seriously hope we have a root on launch day lol, i mean stock sense is ok but I can only deal w it for so long.
legend221 said:
I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Looks like the Canadian version from the carrier Telus launched today. From what I've read we should be able to flash that modems soft/firmware and get the full advantage of functioning hsupa. I also will be wasting my entire day in tinkertown lol.
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Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
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All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
slapdaddy said:
Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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As rwon said our Canadian friends have the Inspire / Desire HD now too, the dev ezterry that brought and continues to provide so much to the HTC Dream / G1 community is from there so the talent is definitely of high caliber up north from us.
The MotoDur Atrix to me is seeming to be a bad product already and it hasn't even launched yet, hahaha
So is it safe to go buy the dhd right now? Think there will be root forthe telus desire hd? I can get contract price out of contract today
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All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
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I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
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I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
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I'm with you buddy, we all look forward to such work.
I have the phone as of this afternoon, already put a full body shield so I cant play with it as much as Id like to however.
Tomorrow Ill take it out after the settling in process of the skin.

[Q] Rooting...Please Don't Hate Me For Asking But I'm Torn

Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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antny said:
Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--

Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow?

Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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sdsubball23 said:
Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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Because, thus far, Verizon has made development a royal PITA. Plus, its still pretty early. Simple as that.
Yeah its only been a week, I too am surprised by this but even with no root it should be picking up users within a few weeks.
No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
Just wait men,
I feel like going back to my m7 or picking up an m8 until development picks up here.
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Just wait men,
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at samsung devices.
Hopefully when the dev version is released this picks up more.
I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'd have to vote M8. I've had mine since release day and it's S-Off and running Viper. I'm really liking the M8, camera and all. I got the S5 yesterday and I messed with it all last night and today, so far my impression is "Meh... really?" Not loving the S5 yet.
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at Samsung devices.
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Not bad for me. i think some people not know how to use it perfectly.. i Hope it will increased ASAP..
You don't have to wait
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No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
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I felt the same way as you but didn't want to wait. Keep an eye on slickdeals for a fast 64gb micro sd. The new fast ones (I got the Samsung Plus 64gb) and honestly you can really notice the read write time performance. I'm never waiting for apps/pics/vids to load from my micro sd on this phone. It's just like internal memory. I directly compared this with my slightly older sandisk 64gb micro from last year and it's night and day. I got it for $32 on a deal but it's $46 now on amazon. It won't let me post external links since I'm new.
Totally worth being an early adopter. Order your 16GB S5 with that card and don't look back. If you need a ton of space down the road, get a fast 128gb micro sd when it launches.
Might be blabbering here.. but you can't discount the speed of sd cards. You can't think of it like 48mb/s, but more like 10mb/.2 seconds. This little bursts are what your apps and other things need to boot quickly.
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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You are obviously not acquainted with changes made since the S3. Take a look at the S4 forums, the only way you can unlock the bootloader is if your phone came with a specific firmware and you did not do any OTA updates to change it. This is because of a specific exploit found in that version, which Samsung/Verizon quickly patched and the phone has been locked down ever since. Sure, it's possible that an exploit will be found in the VZW S5 but it won't be something simple as downloading an app and clicking "Unlock". And you can believe as soon as it's public, it will get patched with an OTA.
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I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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I vividly remember this as well. It's only a matter of time before root or bootloader unlock is achieved. Some developer out there will want to come to the rescue. I know several that love playing hero
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VZW Bootloader Unlock/Root Discussion

Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
EDIT: Bounty thread is live, go thank the OP and if youre able to then you can make a pledge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/bounty-thread-lg-v20-devices-locked-t3495200
Come on guys, 23 views no comments lol.. who are the best LG devs around XDA??
Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.
My SO uses my hotspot at work and at her place over the weekend, seems like FoxFi won't work for us without root. With that said I'd be willing to contribute to a bounty for at least get rooting our devices possible to get that service working again.
@rbiter said:
Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.
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low sales doesnt mean its not a solid device lol, just means not as popular as sammy or crapple is all
I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.
twistedvip said:
I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.
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i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
I want root too. I want to be able to have high impedance mode on all the time. I also want to delete all the Verizon crap and bring back what they removed.
elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings
elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew
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Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew
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the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it
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True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings
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Well i believe he already did that previously with systemless root.. but yea, it changes with each os update practically lol
elliwigy said:
the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it
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My apologies I assumed twrp was device wide not carrier specific
Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.
elliwigy said:
Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
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Well Jcase & Beaups were awesome with the dev support for root and s-off for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG smartphone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed Jcase wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?
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Well Jcase was awesome in all the dev support for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG that isnt a work phone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed he wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?
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i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
elliwigy said:
i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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There was an insane amount of drama in the t-mobile v10 development threads last year and earlier this year and he pretty much threw his hands in the air and said good riddance...
It was pretty crazy. Every time I'd check the threads there'd be a message from a moderator about cleaning the thread and last warning etc.
Drama!
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i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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patterson?? said:
Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.
imucarmen said:
I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.
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@PlayfulGod @DEATH2All if youre stillaround would like to kindly ask if you still delve into this type of stuff?
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lame.. wont let me do a mention with his sig lol keeps putting as death2

should i pull the trigger on this phone

I'm heavily debating jumping to this today (T-Mobile) id be coming from a rooted V20 the lack of root (so far,) is really putting me off for right now but I'm thinking of sucking it up and getting it. Any thoughts?
It's a great device all around. I have the TMO variant and could not be happier. It certainly is a beautiful device and has a lot of great features. As far as root, I do not care about this at all. Most of what you want root for you can now do it without, at least in my experience. I have rooted in the past, but anymore it seems unnecessary. I would not let being able to root be your deciding factor, if this is the case, you are limiting your choice of devices.
I'm sure others will disagree with the rooting business, it's just my opinion.
phillymade said:
It's a great device all around. I have the TMO variant and could not be happier. It certainly is a beautiful device and has a lot of great features. As far as root, I do not care about this at all. Most of what you want root for you can now do it without, at least in my experience. I have rooted in the past, but anymore it seems unnecessary. I would not let being able to root be your deciding factor, if this is the case, you are limiting your choice of devices.
I'm sure others will disagree with the rooting business, it's just my opinion.
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I agree with everything you said.
Having rooted and flashed custom ROMs, while it is fun to tinker, having a device run flawless right out of the box is a plus.
phillymade said:
It's a great device all around. I have the TMO variant and could not be happier. It certainly is a beautiful device and has a lot of great features. As far as root, I do not care about this at all. Most of what you want root for you can now do it without, at least in my experience. I have rooted in the past, but anymore it seems unnecessary. I would not let being able to root be your deciding factor, if this is the case, you are limiting your choice of devices.
I'm sure others will disagree with the rooting business, it's just my opinion.
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Lol also from Philly small world huh and it's not that rooting is a must have just really dig viper4android and don't want to give it up, but I can't beat 30$ down 30$ a month
Nubwy said:
Having rooted and flashed custom ROMs, while it is fun to tinker, having a device run flawless right out of the box is a plus.
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Yea you're right I should just grab it my V20 is on its last legs anyway
Joe199799 said:
Lol also from Philly small world huh and it's not that rooting is a must have just really dig viper4android and don't want to give it up, but I can't beat 30$ down 30$ a month
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Ha, small world indeed. Viper is nice, but this device does have some great sound, not as many options as viper, but for a stock device....well you know coming from a V20. Either way, it's worth the upgrade.
Joe199799 said:
Yea you're right I should just grab it my V20 is on its last legs anyway
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The V20 is a great phone but I promise you, the G7 is a beast.
phillymade said:
Ha, small world indeed. Viper is nice, but this device does have some great sound, not as many options as viper, but for a stock device....well you know coming from a V20. Either way, it's worth the upgrade.
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Pulled the trigger currently using it i dig it so far
Joe199799 said:
Pulled the trigger currently using it i dig it so far
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Good to hey, I am glad you like it... hopefully it will not disappoint
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Good to hey, I am glad you like it... hopefully it will not disappoint
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Lol hasn't yet rolling naked until my case comes in Thursday, this thing is slippery as all hell
I've been thinking about upgrading to this phone as well. Root is one of my issues (Viper4Android and Adaway) but also that notch! It looks so weird to me.......
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JodyBreeze901 said:
I've been thinking about upgrading to this phone as well. Root is one of my issues (Viper4Android and Adaway) but also that notch! It looks so weird to me.......
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Honestly it's not that bad unrooted I found an EQ app that kind of works (nowhere near viper) and I'm using adguard for ads and it's working for the most part (not as good as adaway) and the notch no big deal I'm giving it a chance, you barely notice it half the time and theres ways to block it from in the settings or an app on Google play
JodyBreeze901 said:
I've been thinking about upgrading to this phone as well. Root is one of my issues (Viper4Android and Adaway) but also that notch! It looks so weird to me.......
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I use Blokada for an ad blocker and it works great on unrooted phones.
Joe199799 said:
Pulled the trigger currently using it i dig it so far
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Not sure if you could get used to separated fingerprinter and power button.
I wouldn't hesitate, I love it so far!
damiloveu said:
Not sure if you could get used to separated fingerprinter and power button.
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It's been rough getting used to it but I'm slowly getting there
Best phone I've had to date. I haven't been running root so far for the past three phones now, not missing the instability. The only thing I was missing was Adaway for YouTube, but now with YouTube Vanced I no longer need it, except for annoying in app ads. But gaming is so much better on here than the G6 I came from previously. Better internal storage meaning I can hold more than 3 or 4 big games. The only thing disappointing me as usual isn't the phone, but T-Mobiles **** call reception. And the notch doesn't bother me at all like I thought it would. Some apps don't scale correct but most can be fixed in the settings.

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