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Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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sdsubball23 said:
Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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Because, thus far, Verizon has made development a royal PITA. Plus, its still pretty early. Simple as that.

Yeah its only been a week, I too am surprised by this but even with no root it should be picking up users within a few weeks.

No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.

Just wait men,

I feel like going back to my m7 or picking up an m8 until development picks up here.
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Lodaserves said:
Just wait men,
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at samsung devices.

Hopefully when the dev version is released this picks up more.

I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr

anothen said:
I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'd have to vote M8. I've had mine since release day and it's S-Off and running Viper. I'm really liking the M8, camera and all. I got the S5 yesterday and I messed with it all last night and today, so far my impression is "Meh... really?" Not loving the S5 yet.

k.electron said:
not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at Samsung devices.
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Not bad for me. i think some people not know how to use it perfectly.. i Hope it will increased ASAP..

You don't have to wait
rushless said:
No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
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I felt the same way as you but didn't want to wait. Keep an eye on slickdeals for a fast 64gb micro sd. The new fast ones (I got the Samsung Plus 64gb) and honestly you can really notice the read write time performance. I'm never waiting for apps/pics/vids to load from my micro sd on this phone. It's just like internal memory. I directly compared this with my slightly older sandisk 64gb micro from last year and it's night and day. I got it for $32 on a deal but it's $46 now on amazon. It won't let me post external links since I'm new.
Totally worth being an early adopter. Order your 16GB S5 with that card and don't look back. If you need a ton of space down the road, get a fast 128gb micro sd when it launches.
Might be blabbering here.. but you can't discount the speed of sd cards. You can't think of it like 48mb/s, but more like 10mb/.2 seconds. This little bursts are what your apps and other things need to boot quickly.

I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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You are obviously not acquainted with changes made since the S3. Take a look at the S4 forums, the only way you can unlock the bootloader is if your phone came with a specific firmware and you did not do any OTA updates to change it. This is because of a specific exploit found in that version, which Samsung/Verizon quickly patched and the phone has been locked down ever since. Sure, it's possible that an exploit will be found in the VZW S5 but it won't be something simple as downloading an app and clicking "Unlock". And you can believe as soon as it's public, it will get patched with an OTA.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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I vividly remember this as well. It's only a matter of time before root or bootloader unlock is achieved. Some developer out there will want to come to the rescue. I know several that love playing hero
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Don't buy locked down devices if you want quick development

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Those cancelling HOX preorders, what makes you think the S3 BL won't be locked?

I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?
I think it'll be just like vivid..it will be unlockable in around month..I hope lol either way I'm keeping mine it's beautiful!
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mzimmer88 said:
I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?
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Samsung dosent lock their bootloaders.
Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
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jeremyshaw said:
Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
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Ahh, thanks for the clarification. I have been using my Samsung Captivate which was always easy to do whatever with. I just thought that it came from a different point in Android BL openness history
Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.
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Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.
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I agree. HTC has done a bang up job, but dammit I want Stock ICS
I think Samsung has a lot more pull with the carriers too. The Galaxy SIII was the most hyped phone in a long time... I don't think AT&T would just turn down the Galaxy SIII cause Samsung wants the boot loader unlocked.
I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
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mike21pr said:
I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
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My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.
The only thing I would be looking forward to would be a debloated stock ROM. I am loving this stock experience. Oh and also for occasional wifi tethering.
I actually just bought this phone from the AT&T store today.. switched from a Galaxy S2, rooted with CM7.2.
The stock experience on this phone is.. amazing, to say the least. The display alone is just crazy. It feels like I'm looking at a photo, or one of those stickers on the phones you can't actually mess with in stores.
While it sucks not being able to root + drop a custom ROM on here.. I'm willing to wait until it eventually happens. The out of box experience is head and shoulders above any other Android phone I've used (Nexus One, Galaxy S2, Droid Incredible). If it never gets unlocked.. well, I'll still be happy with my purchase.
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My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.
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There are alot of non-root tethering apps. Koush's works great.
Disclaimer: I have not tried it with the One X yet, but it worked on my old Droid X fine.

Looking to switch to this phone

I hope this is the right place for this post and if not I apologize in advance. I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 which is my first smart phone so going in, I didn't know much about rooting and flashing and other modifications so as I began tinkering, I was very unhappy to find my bootloader had been locked. I've had this phone a while and being unable to flash AOSP roms and the like is really starting to get annoying so I have been browsing Swappa and considering a new phone. I very much do like the M8 and it seems to be my best option for a decent upgrade without breaking the bank. I was wondering if all versions of the Verizon M8 are completely unlock-able or if there are things I should look for when buying this phone. Are there any software updates that have locked the bootloader down to the point that there is no unlock solution? Is there anything specific I should avoid when looking to purchase this phone? On a similar note, should putting my sim from my S4 into this phone just work or will I need to go through Verizon and get the device approved? Thank you in advance for any replies and I apologize again if this is the wrong place to post this.
The Sunshine unlock is available for $25 for all devices running Android 4.4.3 or below. Sunshine hasn't been updated to support Android 4.4.4 yet. If you want to S-OFF, unlock your bootloader, and root the device you will need a phone running either Android 4.4.2 or Android 4.4.3. The Galaxy S4 uses a micro SIM and the M8 uses a nano SIM. You can try cutting your current SIM down, but the best option is to get a new SIM.
That's honestly what I was wondering as well, and it's something good to know once I make the switch from a Note 2 to the m8.
I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
santanac said:
I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
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I dont know about OP, but I know for me I am okay with not having an unlocked bootloader. The droid turbo has way too many problems, the nexus 6 has its share of problems and hasn't been announced for Verizon yet, and Touchwhiz is way too laggy and buggy for me to even consider it after having the Note 2 for two years.
Coming from flashing everything posted on XDA to my Galaxy S3 I was pretty happy with Sense 6. It's a bit of its own spin but is honestly pretty bearable. Battery life is perfect (with heavy use near a days use easy), fast and takes wonderful pictures. I miss the ability to swap out batteries but it's really not too much of an issue with this phone. Front facing speakers are wonderful and seem pretty obvious with BoomSound suprisingly not a gimmick
My only real complaint is the stock emojis HTC throws at you, but that's pretty minimal.
santanac said:
I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
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Is there root available on 4.4.4 at least or is that also locked down?
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Is there root available on 4.4.4 at least or is that also locked down?
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487&page=172 refer to post 1715, shouldn't be too much longer. These dudes are committed and put out top notch work. Just a little longer :victory:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487&page=172 refer to post 1715, shouldn't be too much longer. These dudes are committed and put out top notch work. Just a little longer :victory:
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I was on their live IRC chat and jcase has been saying 1.5 - 2.5 months for 3.0 to be released
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I was on their live IRC chat and jcase has been saying 1.5 - 2.5 months for 3.0 to be released
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Thanks for the heads up man! That'll give me a little more time to get sick of being locked down and ultimately appreciate the freedom more whenever it arrives haha
RemnantKing2 said:
That's honestly what I was wondering as well, and it's something good to know once I make the switch from a Note 2 to the m8.
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I went from a Note 2 to the M8. It was painless. I purchased a sim cutter from Amazon for $5. I cut the sim and all's well.
i left the note 3..... and i love it! especially the sound output.... its absolutely amazing! over bluetooth or headphones. its night and day over the note 3....
just try and find one that's already s-off and unlocked.
good luck!
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i left the note 3..... and i love it! especially the sound output.... its absolutely amazing! over bluetooth or headphones. its night and day over the note 3....
just try and find one that's already s-off and unlocked.
good luck!
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I'm considering switching from the Note 3 as this latest update has all but killed development and pretty much all the developers are jumping ship.
thegamerdarkseid said:
I'm considering switching from the Note 3 as this latest update has all but killed development and pretty much all the developers are jumping ship.
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All of the devs working to unlock the S4 have jumped ship as well. We lost about 4 guys that were really working hard to unlock it.

Developers

Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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hopesrequiem said:
Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.
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I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
KennyG123 said:
Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.
steelersmb said:
I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.
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Then perhaps trying a less secure Verizon phone if you do not have T-Mo coverage, like HTC. I think the M9 still cannot be rooted or S-OFF but the M8 can.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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This is correct. Verizon s6 will be much like the Note 4, it will never see root. Sad, but true.
And still no word on a developer edition :/
We may be hoping for another futex/towelroot type of kernel level exploit that can leverage root for multiple devices. They don't come along every day but they do come along on occasion. I'd be surprised if there's a targeted root exploit for Samsung devices but I'd be thrilled to be wrong on that.
As for the bootloader...I'll be planning on never. Somebody (or a team of somebody's) might get it, but I won't blame them when they sell it for far more coin than they'll make from some partially paid bounties.
The Note 4 and S6 have different SoCs so its not the same at all. Besides these differences, alas there will be no bootloader unlock.
my 2 cents
On a general basis, i think the galaxy s devices are a little more popular than the note series, and the s6 is proving to be more popular than the s5. So hopefully with a larger following will come increased chances of root....hopefully
I will say this though, the S6 has been the first device I've owned that i didn't want to root right out of the box. Root at this point would just be nice to have for a little more control over the device.
Verizon root
I would pay 500 bucks to a dev that could root this phone, to bad I dont know any personally.:crying:

TMobile Note 5 Rootable?

I know this barely came out, but is there fully working root for this yet?
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patience grasshopper
While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
Thanks for the reply, a few weeks or even a month is definitely doable. I was just afraid from other posts that there wouldn't be a root, or if it was it would take forever since there's not going to be much dev support on this phone.
the main problem will actually be that the most talented devs have stopped buying samsung phones for a variety of reasons, so there will be many fewer knowledgeable folks on this phone to do things like root and other customizations..
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
antiochasylum said:
I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Yeah I tried the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demands up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
glensta said:
Yeah I try the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demand up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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My big thing is front facing speakers. The camera is OK, but then again I have a high end DSLR for pictures.
Dont get me wrong, Samsung makes a premium device. But I cannot deal with a company that is completely against root and modding a phone.
If I pay 800$ for it. ITS MINE. Let me do what I want.
So I'll never own anything Samsung ever again.
Fastboot OEM unlock, fastboot flash recovery, flash SuperSU zip. Done. Rooted nexus. That simple.
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Nexus 6 FTW !!
antiochasylum said:
I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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Crossing my fingers it has msd
mocsab said:
Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
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Same to you buddy.
Learning all this is easy. Alot of just doing and if it doesn't work, return to previous state.
I started back with the Nexus One so I've been doing it a while lol.
And honestly, I don't think a company will ever release my dream phone. Every Phone will have sometime we have to live with, or don't like.
But that's why android prevails.
And exactly, you want big name devs, Nexus devices. The next batch of Nexus devices are going to be a huge hit. Assuming all leaks are true.
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chong67 said:
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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5.1.1 is actually a very nice upgrade for Notes. 5.0 was trash honestly. 5.1.1 they fixed a tub of issues.
At least on a nexus, the 5.1.1 was a very nice upgrade.
Granted I'm on 6.0 at the moment. Gotta love a nexus.

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.
and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.
hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?
No u cant unfortunately
I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.
Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately
pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))
kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

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