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Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow?

Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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sdsubball23 said:
Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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Because, thus far, Verizon has made development a royal PITA. Plus, its still pretty early. Simple as that.

Yeah its only been a week, I too am surprised by this but even with no root it should be picking up users within a few weeks.

No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.

Just wait men,

I feel like going back to my m7 or picking up an m8 until development picks up here.
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Lodaserves said:
Just wait men,
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at samsung devices.

Hopefully when the dev version is released this picks up more.

I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr

anothen said:
I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'd have to vote M8. I've had mine since release day and it's S-Off and running Viper. I'm really liking the M8, camera and all. I got the S5 yesterday and I messed with it all last night and today, so far my impression is "Meh... really?" Not loving the S5 yet.

k.electron said:
not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at Samsung devices.
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Not bad for me. i think some people not know how to use it perfectly.. i Hope it will increased ASAP..

You don't have to wait
rushless said:
No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
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I felt the same way as you but didn't want to wait. Keep an eye on slickdeals for a fast 64gb micro sd. The new fast ones (I got the Samsung Plus 64gb) and honestly you can really notice the read write time performance. I'm never waiting for apps/pics/vids to load from my micro sd on this phone. It's just like internal memory. I directly compared this with my slightly older sandisk 64gb micro from last year and it's night and day. I got it for $32 on a deal but it's $46 now on amazon. It won't let me post external links since I'm new.
Totally worth being an early adopter. Order your 16GB S5 with that card and don't look back. If you need a ton of space down the road, get a fast 128gb micro sd when it launches.
Might be blabbering here.. but you can't discount the speed of sd cards. You can't think of it like 48mb/s, but more like 10mb/.2 seconds. This little bursts are what your apps and other things need to boot quickly.

I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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You are obviously not acquainted with changes made since the S3. Take a look at the S4 forums, the only way you can unlock the bootloader is if your phone came with a specific firmware and you did not do any OTA updates to change it. This is because of a specific exploit found in that version, which Samsung/Verizon quickly patched and the phone has been locked down ever since. Sure, it's possible that an exploit will be found in the VZW S5 but it won't be something simple as downloading an app and clicking "Unlock". And you can believe as soon as it's public, it will get patched with an OTA.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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I vividly remember this as well. It's only a matter of time before root or bootloader unlock is achieved. Some developer out there will want to come to the rescue. I know several that love playing hero
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Not very conducive to development
Don't buy locked down devices if you want quick development

TMobile Note 5 Rootable?

I know this barely came out, but is there fully working root for this yet?
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patience grasshopper

While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.

kelmino said:
While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!

Thanks for the reply, a few weeks or even a month is definitely doable. I was just afraid from other posts that there wouldn't be a root, or if it was it would take forever since there's not going to be much dev support on this phone.

the main problem will actually be that the most talented devs have stopped buying samsung phones for a variety of reasons, so there will be many fewer knowledgeable folks on this phone to do things like root and other customizations..

mocsab said:
When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.

antiochasylum said:
Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol

glensta said:
I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.

antiochasylum said:
I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Yeah I tried the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demands up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality

glensta said:
Yeah I try the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demand up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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My big thing is front facing speakers. The camera is OK, but then again I have a high end DSLR for pictures.
Dont get me wrong, Samsung makes a premium device. But I cannot deal with a company that is completely against root and modding a phone.
If I pay 800$ for it. ITS MINE. Let me do what I want.
So I'll never own anything Samsung ever again.
Fastboot OEM unlock, fastboot flash recovery, flash SuperSU zip. Done. Rooted nexus. That simple.

antiochasylum said:
I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Nexus 6 FTW !!

antiochasylum said:
I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.

mocsab said:
I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.

I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.

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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.

Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.

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Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..

glensta said:
I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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wase4711 said:
LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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Crossing my fingers it has msd

mocsab said:
Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
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Same to you buddy.
Learning all this is easy. Alot of just doing and if it doesn't work, return to previous state.
I started back with the Nexus One so I've been doing it a while lol.
And honestly, I don't think a company will ever release my dream phone. Every Phone will have sometime we have to live with, or don't like.
But that's why android prevails.
And exactly, you want big name devs, Nexus devices. The next batch of Nexus devices are going to be a huge hit. Assuming all leaks are true.
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chong67 said:
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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5.1.1 is actually a very nice upgrade for Notes. 5.0 was trash honestly. 5.1.1 they fixed a tub of issues.
At least on a nexus, the 5.1.1 was a very nice upgrade.
Granted I'm on 6.0 at the moment. Gotta love a nexus.

VZW Bootloader Unlock/Root Discussion

Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
EDIT: Bounty thread is live, go thank the OP and if youre able to then you can make a pledge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/bounty-thread-lg-v20-devices-locked-t3495200

Come on guys, 23 views no comments lol.. who are the best LG devs around XDA??

Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.

My SO uses my hotspot at work and at her place over the weekend, seems like FoxFi won't work for us without root. With that said I'd be willing to contribute to a bounty for at least get rooting our devices possible to get that service working again.

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Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.
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low sales doesnt mean its not a solid device lol, just means not as popular as sammy or crapple is all

I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.

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I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.
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i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?

I want root too. I want to be able to have high impedance mode on all the time. I also want to delete all the Verizon crap and bring back what they removed.

elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings

elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew

rickberg said:
Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew
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the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it

twistedvip said:
True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings
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Well i believe he already did that previously with systemless root.. but yea, it changes with each os update practically lol

elliwigy said:
the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it
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My apologies I assumed twrp was device wide not carrier specific

Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.

elliwigy said:
Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
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Well Jcase & Beaups were awesome with the dev support for root and s-off for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG smartphone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed Jcase wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?

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Well Jcase was awesome in all the dev support for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG that isnt a work phone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed he wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?
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i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol

elliwigy said:
i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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There was an insane amount of drama in the t-mobile v10 development threads last year and earlier this year and he pretty much threw his hands in the air and said good riddance...
It was pretty crazy. Every time I'd check the threads there'd be a message from a moderator about cleaning the thread and last warning etc.
Drama!

elliwigy said:
i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.

imucarmen said:
I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.
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@PlayfulGod @DEATH2All if youre stillaround would like to kindly ask if you still delve into this type of stuff?

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lame.. wont let me do a mention with his sig lol keeps putting as death2

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately

pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

kingdazy said:
No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

pbedard said:
Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

loopytee said:
I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

kingdazy said:
Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

........ vzw note 5 band 2 ? .........

Please reply ppl dose the vzw note 5 have band 2 enabled with latest update from Verizon? And if not enabled how do I enable it. Im new to the Verizon note 5
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Yes, the Verizon Note 5 has band 2 enabled by default. If you would like to check which bands your phone is connecting to, I highly recommend the app "LTE Discovery" from the play store. The creators have done a great job of making it work well.

BlockOfDynamite said:
Yes, the Verizon Note 5 has band 2 enabled by default. If you would like to check which bands your phone is connecting to, I highly recommend the app "LTE Discovery" from the play store. The creators have done a great job of making it work well.
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Sweet I've already have that app on my phone tells you all the details is there any like phone dialer codes and I can double-check make sure it's enabled

teckynerd6249 said:
Sweet I've already have that app on my phone tells you all the details is there any like phone dialer codes and I can double-check make sure it's enabled
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Unfortunately not. Most of the dialer codes for this phone are disabled sucks, but it is what it is.

I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?

Super_SU01 said:
I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?
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Nope, you're SOL. Besides, you're in the wrong thread. Bad way to increase your comment count.

BlockOfDynamite said:
Nope, you're SOL. Besides, you're in the wrong thread. Bad way to increase your comment count.
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My bad man, I'll do more reading and get more familiar with the rules. Sorry about this. I'm very noobish.

Super_SU01 said:
My bad man, I'll do more reading and get more familiar with the rules. Sorry about this. I'm very noobish.
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No problem! If you have any questions there are lots of people who would love to help. Unfortunately this forum has been dead-ish for the past month or so. What with one guy refusing to release the root exploit he "found" and others just trying to do a little customization that's currently beyond the control of the device, there's not much going on here. If you would like to get into rooting and romming I would suggest looking at phones that aren't locked to a carrier (like the unlocked HTC 10 although I didn't like it much or a Moto). Can't beat the Note 5 though!

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No problem! If you have any questions there are lots of people who would love to help. Unfortunately this forum has been dead-ish for the past month or so. What with one guy refusing to release the root exploit he "found" and others just trying to do a little customization that's currently beyond the control of the device, there's not much going on here. If you would like to get into rooting and romming I would suggest looking at phones that aren't locked to a carrier (like the unlocked HTC 10 although I didn't like it much or a Moto). Can't beat the Note 5 though!
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Thanks for the advice! Ill probably end up getting the nexus 6.

Super_SU01 said:
Thanks for the advice! Ill probably end up getting the nexus 6.
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That's what I had before the Note 5. It was decent to start out but was beyond painful to use in the end. The 32-bit snapdragon and 3GB ram really limit how long you can keep it on before it starts to get really sluggish. I will say though I miss the feel of my N6. It was just a nice shape and the stereo front-facing speakers were fantastic. Dangit now you've got me wanting one again as a backup phone >_<

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That's what I had before the Note 5. It was decent to start out but was beyond painful to use in the end. The 32-bit snapdragon and 3GB ram really limit how long you can keep it on before it starts to get really sluggish. I will say though I miss the feel of my N6. It was just a nice shape and the stereo front-facing speakers were fantastic. Dangit now you've got me wanting one again as a backup phone >_<
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Lol if I buy one it will make my 4th N6. I would love to have something other than a nexus 6. It limits me on what I can get because I'm on Verizon and that sucks. I could get the International s8+ and use it on AT&T I guess but I really don't wanna have to cancel my service with Verizon. If I can't root and BL unlock then I don't want it. It also makes it kinda hard for me to switch carriers because I have my wife and son on my plan. Hopfully I can figure something out within the next couple weeks..

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Lol if I buy one it will make my 4th N6. I would love to have something other than a nexus 6. It limits me on what I can get because I'm on Verizon and that sucks. I could get the International s8+ and use it on AT&T I guess but I really don't wanna have to cancel my service with Verizon. If I can't root and BL unlock then I don't want it. It also makes it kinda hard for me to switch carriers because I have my wife and son on my plan. Hopfully I can figure something out within the next couple weeks..
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Yeah if you're looking for something that you can unlock and root, we're talking s7 and newer. I wouldn't recommend the s7 just because the snapdragon 820/821 performance really isn't up to par with the Exynos in the Note 5. That leaves the S8/Note8. I think you'd have to look for one that came from Samsung or from a carrier that doesn't bootloader-lock their phones. I know Verizon does and I think AT&T does but I'm not sure. Exynos devices are going to be hit or miss, but imo are far superior (speed- and heat-wise).

BlockOfDynamite said:
Yeah if you're looking for something that you can unlock and root, we're talking s7 and newer. I wouldn't recommend the s7 just because the snapdragon 820/821 performance really isn't up to par with the Exynos in the Note 5. That leaves the S8/Note8. I think you'd have to look for one that came from Samsung or from a carrier that doesn't bootloader-lock their phones. I know Verizon does and I think AT&T does but I'm not sure. Exynos devices are going to be hit or miss, but imo are far superior (speed- and heat-wise).
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It should be illegal for carriers to lock down a phone! I have another issue as most people. My budget is tight, about 200 bucks is my limit. Right now I'm using the Xiaomi Mi Mix 128gb and 4 gigs of ram. I had a lot of people tell me that the mix wouldn't work on Verizon in the US. I haven't had any issues using the mix. I get 4g everywhere I go. I like my mix but development isn't all that great, let's just say it could be a whole lot better. I have only had this device for about 6 months I like it but I want another phone, lol. I guess I could sale my MI mix and put that money with what I already have and buy a international note 8 or s8+ but then I'd have to switch carriers and I really don't wanna have to do that if I don't have to.

Super_SU01 said:
I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?
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You are in the wrong Forum discussion

teckynerd6249 said:
You are in the wrong Forum discussion
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I realize this, man. I was having a dialog with someone. If you would scroll up a few pages and read you would see that I was already advised I was in the wrong thread. After being told by @blockofDynamite that this wasn't a good way to increase my word count, I agreed. We then had a few discussions and I went on my way.....