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[Q] Rooting...Please Don't Hate Me For Asking But I'm Torn

Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?

antny said:
shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!

No.
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Absolutely not.

bhags8 said:
No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha

bhags8 said:
No.
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el_smurfo said:
Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?

Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.

el_smurfo said:
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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antny said:
Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.

el_smurfo said:
Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?

You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Doughh said:
Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.

el_smurfo said:
Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--

rugmankc said:
To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)

Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--

rugmankc said:
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.

yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--

I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.

CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--

Dual Window

I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.

jcnbama said:
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
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There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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mgbotoe said:
There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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Yep

Yep... And this is the first phone I tried to go without Titanium Backup... How do people live like this?!?! Lol... I guess we'll see.... What I'd like to see is the manufacturers just do stuff like that on their own.....

Samsung, the creators of multi-window, have a restrictive list too. I never bypassed it though. Kind of annoying. They've had it for years too.

But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/

Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Might try once I get home what app you suggest?
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Hooooly crap that's alot of work to have something as simple as dual window support. What happens when the app updates? Does that change anything?
Again this just goes back to manufacturers just taking care of their customer base. This should be a non-issue.... Maybe I'll fool around with this at some point but honestly just rooting will probably be easier and provide more overall benefits once it is accomplished (which I would imagine would be sooner rather than later.) I'm always willing to donate for developers hard work. Definitely worth it.
Thanks for sharing this friend!

It's not as bad as it looks tbh. Once you become familiar it's a fairly quick process.
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.

Triavius said:
I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
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Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?

jcnbama said:
Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
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Hah, I've got no idea honestly. That reddit thread that was posted isn't too old; I haven't had any of the apps I messed with updated yet.

Hi,everybody .I try to sign FM Cube to dual window and it is work great but when I try to do the same with Waze it show me error when I try to build apk back.
Can anybody help me with that ? And also I did a Google Map but can not install on my phone because the original one is a system app.

Would you trade the S7e for the Pixel XL?

I'm debating between the two. I have a change to get one soon but I'm leaning on keeping the S7e since the U firmware runs well. I also think the S7e looks way better than the XL. It also means giving up SPay, Qi, IP68, compact body,... But Android 7.0 with the new goodies... hmmmm
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Samsung Pay, and the sleek look of the S7edge are the only things that keep me on.

I've never liked the camera UI of vanilla android.... also water resistant, sd card support & big ass battery

wait for the Galaxy S8 edge it will have all the upgraded specs and way more.

to get rid of touchwiz..... in a heartbeat

I'll put an end to this. The S7 Edge has the following advantages over the Pixel XL:
Bigger battery
Edge shortcuts
Waterproof
Better always on display
SD card
Wireless charging
Floating window
Screen gets brighter in daylight and darker at night
Scroll capture
Samsung widgets, magazine, weather, calendar..
Can still use JOD
Can use T-Mobile insurance
Samsung backup
Samsung pay
Better price
Dimensions are way better
As you can see the choice is a no-brainer. Shouldn't even require any thought actually. The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera. 7.1 doesn't do much (I have it on my Nexus) and the photos look better in all lighting conditions on the S7e, even though the Pixel has really great stabilization and is faster at snapping the photo.

The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera.
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?

DOMF said:
...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.

seh6183 said:
I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"

DOMF said:
Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
DriveDroid? Lol
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.

seh6183 said:
Ad blocking can be done without root.
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Not very effectively
seh6183 said:
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
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Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
seh6183 said:
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
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Again yea kinda
seh6183 said:
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.

Nirrik said:
Not very effectively
Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
Again yea kinda
WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you. Maybe you don't even know what mst is? Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.

Your arrogance is amazing, do you purport know better than everyone else?
seh6183 said:
Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
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LOL wow so because you dont have any adds that means the method you use is just as good for everyone? If everyone uses your method there would be no adds whatsoever, is that what you are saying?
seh6183 said:
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
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As for freezing, you cant freeze certain system apps w/o root that's why I said kinda. See how that works? Not to mention the overall problem of freezing instead of removing. But yea keep the bloatware and limit your space.
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XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
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As far as you rationale on xda and rooting, OEMs are not eliminating the need for root, otherwise most people wouldnt be on here. And who are you to say what is needed to make other's phones more enjoyable? The fact that people want root is indicative of their need to make modifications to make their phone enjoyable to them. And also is that why the international versions have unlocked bootloaders? To educate you, OEMS lock bootloaders at the request of carriers. Locked bootloaders have been available to be instituted for many years, and seeing as US carriers are starting to utilize them the demand for unlocked phones are increasing.
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge-in-the-u-s
Samsung even admits it and has released a carrier independent unlocked s7
seh6183 said:
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
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Again who says its unnecessary? You? Since when do you speak for the majority?
seh6183 said:
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
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Again I will and many others will to due to our need to make our phones more enjoyable
seh6183 said:
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you.
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AGAIN so... because you have settled on that tradeoff and others dont agree with your opinion, you are saying that we must not be educated? What a narrow world view, agree with everything I say and do or you're wrong and must be corrected. The Nazis had the same idea but took it a step further and eliminated opposition.
seh6183 said:
Maybe you don't even know what mst is?
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Do you? Yes I know what MST is, its Samsung's latest push towards wireless payment technology utilizing NFC. And if the merchant doesnt use it then samsung pay will go ahead and use older "Less Secure" Technology or wont work at all resulting in you having to pull out your bank card and use it either by tap and pay, chip or good old fashioned swiping.
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Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
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Yes, I like many others, will keep trying to get real root because of OUR need to make our devices more enjoyable.
Oh and btw I forgot to mention Xposed by itself, does absolutely nothing, its a framework for root apps to make the modifications and in fact most apps are quite stable on real root. Real root enables the users to fix and streamline the performance of their devices not just customize. Like disabling DVFS, odex/deodex, custom kernels, these are not for aesthetic purposes but functional. To make up for problems like this
http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/galaxy-s7-performance-test-us-vs-global-pt-2/
But keep drinking the koolaid and insist that security is paramount to freedom. The establishment will love you for it.

Nirrik said:
a bunch of annoying babbling
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.

seh6183 said:
Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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LOL awwwww did I make the troll mad? "the fact of the matter is" I respond with structured facts and refrences, you refuse to refute my points with anything other than a tantrum and unfounded opinions. YOU were the one that tried to act like everything you said was fact with no proof, You began this debate and now that its plain to see that you have no real ground to stand on, you are gonna knock the pieces off the board. And apparently people care, you may not but others do. So your "No one cares" is yet another unfounded opinion that has no basis in truth. And as far as going to a forum where people care about root, I did, that's what XDA is, all of it! Its XDA DEVELOPERS! Maybe you should find a new site to spout your locked bootloader/anti root vitrol and where you can refuse to act like a reasonable adult. LMFAO.

All my ads are blocked.
I can freeze every single process on my phone.
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.

Im eating popcorn while reading all this.

I would not trade the GS7E for a pixel or any other Google branded phone. Had bad experiences with prior Nexus phones. To put it simply, the plusses of this phone easily outweigh the plusses of the pixel, which really is only that it has stock Android and quick updates. I couldn't care less about root, as another poster stated, ad blocking and freezing apps can be done without. Never had good experiences with xposed. And lastly, if you want the UI to look stock, Samsung good lock has you covered. Overall, this phone doesn't lag, doesn't crash, has excellent battery life, water resistance, and reasonably quick updates. Life is too short to deal with rooting and other nonsense. I want a phone that works with minimal input from me, and this gives me that.

seh6183 said:
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
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This is literally all I saw...the failure to realise what MST is and/or how it works. NFC is kind of weak...android pay uses it some cards have it the samsung gear s2 watch uses it for sam pay....but mst...mst since nobody wanted to educate the other guy...creates an electromagnetic field of sorts that mimics the magnetic frequency resonance whatever what have you of said card (well actually a secondary card number to protect yours) to emulate a card swipe...works places NOTHING else does..android pay apple pay paypal none of them work because you are in the country somewhere at some hillbilly gasstation that has only a card reader...sam pay will save you. It should even work with square pay readers ?. I will say though...v4a Viper4Android...is VERY useful especially if you are an audiophile. No other app compares...period...coming from someone with an s7e that isnt rooter because i use sam pay. And i must say yea i miss the abilities of a rooted phone...but ive been fine since march without. Also heard tmobile was checking to see if devices were rooted now on insurance....i already cracked my screen once(sparks shooting across the room actually did it)...if thats true i would have been a $$ out if rooted...oh and to answer your question...not in a million years...tmobiles bill credit isnt even enticing enough coupled with the note7 fiasco. Ill be getting the 5.5 s8 or s8e however they will market the moniker as soon as it drops

I didn't want to explain mst to the guy because I was hoping he would continue to live his life believing that mst is just nfc lol
I guess I just don't see what is so great about viper. An equalizer is very important to me but that is built into the apps these days. All the other functions of viper are unimportant to me. I'm not an audiophile so I'm probably missing it, but adding an echo or virtual surround to my music is not important. And I've had bugs and drain with viper before (only on certain devices)

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately

pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

pbedard said:
Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

kingdazy said:
No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

pbedard said:
Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

loopytee said:
I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

Should I toss this perfect phone because of poor GPS and Compass performance between Wipes?

I have done what seems like everything to save this dream2lte (it is an Exenyos from Mexico). The compass literally can't sit still and I have a low number of satellite locks on the GPS.
My amateur brain thinks maybe, just maybe it has something to do with outdated GPS models (old modem or bootloader ... Though I updated and I think I used the correct files to Sept 2022 in Odin for both extracted from stock.)
After that I really have no idea if CSC settings can play a role, if I monkeyed around there a long time back... I am also trying to use this Mexican model in Canada west coast..
Any pros out there know how to get some closure on this long running droid companion. Because otherwise the phone is more than I need. A broken compass or at least one I can't use is starting to become a deal breaker.. Lol

Yes, don't bother. Start checking other phones, why holding yourself back with a half-ishly working device.
Fun fact: Had so many devices that I kept and waited for to improve/repair. Never happened, NEVER. They only lost in value... and that's totally not worth it.

SigmundDroid said:
Yes, don't bother. Start checking other phones, why holding yourself back with a half-ishly working device.
Fun fact: Had so many devices that I kept and waited for to improve/repair. Never happened, NEVER. They only lost in value... and that's totally not worth it.
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I just wouldn't accept defeat but it sort of isn't worth it anymore as their is essentially nothing you van do it seems.

Move on and stay on the lookout for better devices
Cheers

galaxys said:
Move on and stay on the lookout for better devices
Cheers
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galaxys said:
Move on and stay on the lookout for better devices
Cheers
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What's a good one today for XDA Dev work.. I haven't been watching the market

futiless said:
What's a good one today for XDA Dev work.. I haven't been watching the market
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I have Pixel 6 Pro and OnePlus 9 Pro for good development activities...

futiless said:
I just wouldn't accept defeat but it sort of isn't worth it anymore
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Yeah, exactly that happened to me - see it as a win for yourself: less trouble, peace of mind
PS: Truth to be told, just last month I found a box with 3 nokias, 2 sorta ok-ish, one disassembled... just tired of such space hoggers *sigh*