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I have done the manual ICS update 4.04 that was recently released in the general section of the forum, and I noticed that the memory is much lower compared to 2.3.6. The memory averages around 50MB, sometimes 100MB, and showing used memory around 285MB. I was wondering if this is normal as some of my games force closes after i start to play. the games uses quite of bit of my phone's resources and was working perfectly on 2.3.6. Also, i use the GO Launcher EX and i tried not using the launcher, but it only frees up little bit of memory. My phone is not rooted, everything is stock of course. I was wondering if anyone else has the same or similar problems? or is this normal in terms of the ICS OS using more memory?
anyone knows????
Give me a list of what services are running and how much ram they're using. This is done through settings > apps > running.
The same is the case with my phone. Sadly thats a compromise for ICS, you have to install custom rom to free up more memory.
I had the same problem at first .
you have to install a ROM+KERNEL that support BIGMEM.
I use Pixel Rom 1.72+ Airkernel 3.9.5, I now have 180mb+ with many programs running. its super fast/stable
Try and you wont regret
Pixel Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411734
Air Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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ismailham said:
I had the same problem at first .
you have to install a ROM+KERNEL that support BIGMEM.
I use Pixel Rom 1.72+ Airkernel 3.9.5, I now have 180mb+ with many programs running. its super fast/stable
Try and you wont regret
Pixel Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411734
Air Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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i was actually looking into that ROM and kernel. How is it in terms of performance and battery life. I'm looking for a ROM and Kernel that increases both lol.
Also right now it says 292MB used and 46MB free. the processes running are settings (34MB), go weather (4.9MB) go launcher ex(34MB), go sms pro(7.5MB), go switch widget (4.1MB), google services (8.5MB), android keyboard (11MB)
Also for extra info, here is cached processes:
go weather (4.8MB) launcher (14MB), media (5.1MB), my uploads(3.4MB), package access helper (3.5MB)
in total, including cached processes, 134.8 MB used
You're sure that is everything that is being shown in the two pages? If so, it looks like something in the background likes eating RAM and doesn't want to share.
Regardless, could you download terminal emulator or something similar (or just use adb shell) and type: "ps > /sdcard/ps.txt" and upload/copypaste the file/contents. It's not a particularly great way of figuring out memory usage but i can probably make do and see if something is wasting it. I know on a fresh boot i have much more lying around in the cache than that, without opening any apps - mostly google sutff.
E.g., 24MB launcher, 11mb core apps, 15mb maps (and more in running), 36mb play store and so on. Although currently on ~402mb bigmem, i don't remember it being much less before - still 200mb used (as always) and cache is generally filled to the brim.
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Regardless, could you download terminal emulator or something similar (or just use adb shell) and type: "ps > /sdcard/ps.txt" and upload/copypaste the file/contents. It's not a particularly great way of figuring out memory usage but i can probably make do and see if something is wasting it. I know on a fresh boot i have much more lying around in the cache than that, without opening any apps - mostly google sutff.
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Hi. I have the same memory problem, i created the ps.txt. I don't know how to read this txt..
What does mean these things :
USER PID PPID VSIZE RSS WCHAN PC NAME
What are ppid, vsize, rss wchan??
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PID -> Process IDentifier -> Wiki for more info
Vsize -> Virtual Size -> RAM usage (SWAP + Physical)
RSS -> Residential Set Size -> RAM usage (Physical only)
wchan -> Some waiting indicator, never looked into it
I just want a detailed list of what processes are using up the RAM. Basically i'm looking for something with excessively high RSS and just comparing it with my phones results.
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You're sure that is everything that is being shown in the two pages? If so, it looks like something in the background likes eating RAM and doesn't want to share.
Regardless, could you download terminal emulator or something similar (or just use adb shell) and type: "ps > /sdcard/ps.txt" and upload/copypaste the file/contents. It's not a particularly great way of figuring out memory usage but i can probably make do and see if something is wasting it. I know on a fresh boot i have much more lying around in the cache than that, without opening any apps - mostly google sutff.
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that is all it shows. Here is the ps.txt file. Thank you for your help
Too sleepy (and mentally deprived) at the moment to give a good answer. I would, however, try ditching go launcher altogether (preferably uninstall, hopefully not too much trouble) for a little while and see if it gets better. I can't tell for sure without better memory analyzers but it is possible golauncher has gone haywire (or maybe not, trial and error ).
If not this, i notice there are many kcryptd processes going on. To my knowledge that is kernel based but i know not what it does or what it's for, did you encrypt the phone by any chance? I havn't run stock in too long to remember how the ps list was. I should be able to give a better, more thorough answer tomorrow regardless though.
edit: also, i've attached my own ps log for reference. We're talking around 205mb used and 197mb free when that log was taken. Have a look. Note that RSS (all in kB) can be shared, so that 20mb from each go launcher process may well be the same ~20mb between all of them which they all have access to, so it's not 100mb+ used, just ~20mb.
I'm pretty sure I haven't encrypted anything, is there a way to find out what has been encrypted? I have removed go launcher ex and the themes. Will now see how the memory is, in the meantime, go sleep Harbb lol.
Basche said:
I'm pretty sure I haven't encrypted anything, is there a way to find out what has been encrypted? I have removed go launcher ex and the themes. Will now see how the memory is, in the meantime, go sleep Harbb lol.
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You would know if your phone was encrypted
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Wow I'll have to try that pixelrom and airkernel for sure (especially since I just recently rooted for the first time a couple days ago).
The miniscule account of RAM we have on our phones to play with is literally my only complaint about my Nexus S. If I could seriously UP the free/available RAM like ismailham says, I'd be falling in love with my phone all over again!
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MotorcycleKopp said:
Wow I'll have to try that pixelrom and airkernel for sure (especially since I just recently rooted for the first time a couple days ago).
The miniscule account of RAM we have on our phones to play with is literally my only complaint about my Nexus S. If I could seriously UP the free/available RAM like ismailham says, I'd be falling in love with my phone all over again!
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dude, i know what you mean, but i don't wanna void my warranty yet. Still got some months left
Basche said:
dude, i know what you mean, but i don't wanna void my warranty yet. Still got some months left
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You know you can lock bootloader on a nexus right?
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DarkhShadow said:
You know you can lock bootloader on a nexus right?
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i think people had some issues with that, not sure
Basche said:
i think people had some issues with that, not sure
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Only if they can't get into bootloader, and generally in that case Samsung can't either
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Basche said:
i think people had some issues with that, not sure
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Definitely non issue. Done it to send mine for repair for a failing BGA, it was near painless. The biggest "trouble" was removing CWM and SU to make it look stock.
polobunny said:
Definitely non issue. Done it to send mine for repair for a failing BGA, it was near painless. The biggest "trouble" was removing CWM and SU to make it look stock.
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how did u lock the bootloader
After using your Android device for some time it may begin to slow down and lag, and this is quite frustrating for every user in such situation. The more apps you install on your Android device, the less memory you make available on your device. Then your device will become slower in processing your apps and this will definitely affect your battery life and device performance. Just like no one likes to use a slow computer, no one also loves using a slow Android device. So let’s look at how we can make our device faster again.
How to make your Android device faster again:
1. Reboot your Android device:
If your Android device suddenly becomes slow and takes unnecessary time to respond, reboot your device as this will kill all processes consuming your memory. Then you can launch your desired apps. If your Android is still slow after rebooting follow the steps below.
2. Uninstall unnecessary and unused apps:
It is a common practice for Android users to install a lot of apps, some of these apps are rarely used or unnecessary, uninstall such apps to make more memory available for other important apps to use in your device. Ensure to always keep minimum apps on your Android device and keep only the important ones. The less apps you run, the more responsive your Android device will be since there will now be free available memory to use.
3. Reduce the number of Widgets/Home screens you use in your device:
Reduce the number of widget your device and also reduce to its minimum the number of Home screens on your device. Widgets consume your memory as their services run on your device even when you are not using them. Reducing them will make more memory available.
4. Install a Custom ROM:
Since newer versions of Android OS performs better than their older counterparts, it will be wise to install custom ROMs to get a newer version of Android OS. This will make your device more responsive.
5. Transfer apps to Memory Card:
As much as this may involve rooting your Android device, moving apps to your memory card will make more memory space available in your internal memory which serves as RAM to your device. A2SD is an app that can allow you to install apps on your SD card rather than your internal memory and this will help you ensure more internal space on your device.
6. Turn of unnecessary services when not in use:
It is advisable to turn off services you are not using anytime you are not using it. Services like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS etc. Most times even when you are not using an app, its services may still be running on the background, so killing the services manually will make more space available to other apps.
Final Thoughts:
So much have been written about this topic in so many blogs, no matter what have been written one thing remains certain, when you install so many apps, your memory is used up and your Android device requires memory to process quickly, so when the memory have been used by other apps, it is always difficult for your device to perform as expected. So I will advise you to always ensure good memory management practices that will always free up internal memory for your Android device to perform optimally.
Hit thanks if u find it helpful
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Craziness
Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:
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Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:
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thanks a lot FalCon i really appreciate it
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FalConn232 said:
Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:
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See the dev section. We have a JB leak.(I'm from a2 forum too ) A thousand times better than ICS. Not for ATT rite now, but will be soon available for em.
Life!
ill visit ur thread and check that rom
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ill visit ur thread and check that rom
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?? That wasn't for u!
Life!
i know dude , im just interested in ur rom
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joshxrain said:
i know dude , im just interested in ur rom
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Oh in that case here it is
Life!
thanks
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If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance
Athoomas said:
If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance
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At the cost of lesser battery life, and OCing too much can literally damage the processor and make it less efficient
Life!
thanks for these
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thanks for these
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anytime dude , anytime
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It should be noted that when you move apps to SD that have widgets, it usually makes the widgets unusable. Good info none-the-less.
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Hedied4me said:
It should be noted that when you move apps to SD that have widgets, it usually makes the widgets unusable. Good info none-the-less.
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hmm you're right about that , maybe i just forgot to include that in my post , thanks for tellin me anyway
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Athoomas said:
If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance
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Overcloack its a risk, i dont suggest it at all because there a reason why Sony or Samsung or HTC set that frequency on that CPU, that reason is safety and durability, two things that jailbreak leaves... Do it at your own risk
Cilip said:
Overcloack its a risk, i dont suggest it at all because there a reason why Sony or Samsung or HTC set that frequency on that CPU, that reason is safety and durability, two things that jailbreak leaves... Do it at your own risk
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yea u got it right dude , do it at ur own risk
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What about kernel? Ofcourse maybe better to change stock rom to custom, but kernel better use stock or custom?
koolnew said:
What about kernel? Ofcourse maybe better to change stock rom to custom, but kernel better use stock or custom?
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some custom rom already have kernel in it so i guess its custom ...
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Well, for the least I can say, it works! Thanks.
Im coming from a Moto x 2014 and was amazing and 0 lag.
No i have an 32 gigs s6 but i fighting with the lag.
Sometimes runs smoothly and sometimes lags every time,
I get into recovery a wipe cache and nothing, any idea to fix this?
I have the new 5.1.1 france rom and my model is 920F
Regards.
Can't help you as I don't have the 5.1.1 ROM yet, but have no lag on 5.0.2. The other thing is, lag is subjective. The Moto X 2014 certainly does lag on certain actions such as facebook etc.
If you haven't already, after a ROM update it's always usefull to factory reset if you've backed everything up.
5.1.1 runs nearly equal to 5.0.2 on power saving mode .. mainly the effect is on scrolling. I always used 5.0.2 on power saving as it would suffice
Ok, ill try a factory reset again in 5.1.1
Thankyou
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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Sher The Love said:
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
TheEndHK said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
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Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Sher The Love said:
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Same observation here. The new Material theme makes the scrolling worse on 5.1.1 and also a few other themes does the same detriment to UI fluidity. I had downloaded like 12 different themes and now deleting one by one after testing them out and keeping only those which do not affect fluidity...
I'm not even using Samsung Launcher.. Nova Launcher ftw
No lag out of the ordinary on 5.0.2... Haven't received the new OTA yet
I've found the same - themes can cause noticeable lag.
Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
Sher The Love said:
Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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_Johnito_ said:
Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
TheEndHK said:
It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
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What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Sher The Love said:
What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Bloatware installed by Samsung. Some of those apps you will never use actually start themselves in the background. Just go see by yourself in your running apps manager.
The app also help you to debloat by colouring known "useless" apps (by useless, I mean nor the phone or the system need them to operate properly)
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Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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It is not lame as custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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zdravkodubravec said:
custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I tend to stay away from root as possible as I am not really experienced enough ... And I hardly find a good tutorial that is really conclusive ... On the other hand every phone I had was chosen because I liked all of the aspects of it ... So I really never had the need for root ... And not to mention one experience when one time I did root ... And it was with S4 ... And in the end it was extremely close to having phone that dose not work ...and bad experience in all that is actually that phone was working as it should before rooting and after it never really did work good ...
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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fdorr said:
Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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Pretty choppy indeed. I guess that depends what you are used to though. Considering the hardware there is no reason to worry, this slugginess will probably be cured soon (via samsung updates or custom roms). But i never suspected my good old nexus 5 would actually be more fluid even at start.
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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I just did. It is working fine for me. Using Material Theme and 5.1.1
Hi,
after testing the "[ROM][MTC20F][GalaxyTab7.7|Plus][13Aug2016 OmniROM-6]" you find out that our GalaxyTab7.7 can cope with latest android developments when it comes to performance.
If it wasn't for the reoccuring reboots and crashes, I would say, it is perfect. And I really hate the tablet becoming a paper weight somewhere in the corner...
So what options do we have?
An outdated (insecure?) earlier android version? Are there any secure older versions available?
Tweak Marchmallow so that it doesn't reboot / crash regulary
To Tweak it we need to know what makes it reboot / crash. Is it because of low memory? Is it still some drivers having problems?
Please post ideas, how to find out what makes it reboot / crash. Is there any logs available?
@p3dboard: Do you have any memory tweaks we can try?
@daniel_hk : Thanks for getting our tablet this far!
Kind regards
Jarr3
Jarr3 said:
Hi,
after testing the "[ROM][MTC20F][GalaxyTab7.7|Plus][13Aug2016 OmniROM-6]" you find out that our GalaxyTab7.7 can cope with latest android developments when it comes to performance.
If it wasn't for the reoccuring reboots and crashes, I would say, it is perfect. And I really hate the tablet becoming a paper weight somewhere in the corner...
So what options do we have?
An outdated (insecure?) earlier android version? Are there any secure older versions available?
Tweak Marchmallow so that it doesn't reboot / crash regulary
To Tweak it we need to know what makes it reboot / crash. Is it because of low memory? Is it still some drivers having problems?
Please post ideas, how to find out what makes it reboot / crash. Is there any logs available?
@p3dboard: Do you have any memory tweaks we can try?
@daniel_hk : Thanks for getting our tablet this far!
Kind regards
Jarr3
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The best performing Rom's so far for memory / lack of low memory freezing, are the Android 4.4.4, Kitkat rom's, not that they are to totally bug free, eg there's the Charging screen bug where it automatically powers back on after about 5 minutes of charging.
I have just tried Android 7.0 cm14 on my Galaxy S2 rom, and its quite smooth. Our Galaxy Tab 7.7 has a larger screen resolution, and so a little less memory then the s2, but a similar CPU and Ram, and it seems to work quite well on 1Gb of RAM. Hopefully when Daniel makes the Android 7.0 rom's they might get us back to the same performance as the old Android 4.4.4 rom's.
Any advice on best 4.4.4 rom? Omni 6 goes in slowmo mode to often for me. To bad no one is improving Omni6 or other roms for the tab 7.7 anymore.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
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I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0