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A700 OTA update

A few days ago i mailed some questions to acer about issues we discuss at XDA and in a german board. Especially about heating and some lags.
Today i got an answer. Acer is thankfull for the user comunities feedback. They are working currently on an update to give "better user experience to the Acer A700 Iconia Tab owners" (whatever it means ). They announced the FOTA update for the end of july.
They didn't mention the coming version - but i don't believe, that it could be jellybean. But it is ok, when they get some essential issues fixed!
Regards!

Great news, I saw that another user here posted a reply on some topic with the same information.
I returned my overheating tablet and got another one. This one doesn't get that hot, so I think it's rather a hardware issue than a software... But hey, who knows? xd

Thanks for sharing. The a700 is a good tablet to use on a daily basis, but I definitely believe that with a good software update it could even become a great tablet.

Thankyou for the welcome news.
I have to say, I enjoy mine very much - especially for video. It has a few little niggles that I'd like worked out though, so hopefully the FOTA has a few goodies in it for us!

TomONeill said:
Great news, I saw that another user here posted a reply on some topic with the same information.
I returned my overheating tablet and got another one. This one doesn't get that hot, so I think it's rather a hardware issue than a software... But hey, who knows? xd
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Yes, the individual variations may be just what makes one tablet usable and another not, as it seems that most of us can routinely get the CPU/GPU up to 80-85 deg C in normal use, which is only a few degrees below shutdown temperature. And, for example better heat sinks may help a lot. But still, I think software tweaks reducing the heat generating workload, for example running non-essential processes with lower priority and forcing CPU frequency down sooner when CPU/GPU heats up could help for better utilization.

Finally the update has arrived.
Image-Version: Acer_AV043_A700_RV07RC06_EMAE_DE
Build-Number : Acer_AV043_A700_1.027.00_EMEA_DE
In a german android forum users have different experiences with the update, good and bad ones. I just installed my update, so i can't say anything about it.
First post greetings to everyone :highfive:

Received the small update, 5MB in size. It does lock the bootloader again.
No apparent changes and the improved responsiveness of the tablet is imaginary I am sure.

330MB update on US...
Brought back some lag issues I thought I was over after tweaking around a bit...Kinda ticked off that it got slower after the update. On the bright side, I've no longer got a weird polygon-jumping screen thing going on. Not noticed much else by way of changes or fixes.

What tweaks?
What tweaks did you do to reduce lag?
ExtremeRyno said:
330MB update on US...
Brought back some lag issues I thought I was over after tweaking around a bit...Kinda ticked off that it got slower after the update. On the bright side, I've no longer got a weird polygon-jumping screen thing going on. Not noticed much else by way of changes or fixes.
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I don't know about you guys but my tab actually feels a lot more responsive now. Gaming in particular I'm noticing seemingly better frame rates. I had already disabled many apps to speed up the tab before. I haven't gone through extensive testing but I will say it still gets just as hot as before except that it now runs faster/better.

Received a new update today.
AV043_A700_1.0055.00_EMEA_DE
Sice: ~40 mb
It adds 2 new power option to the settings. They are called balanced and performance. With Balanced the performance seems to be like before. With the second option the device runs better and smoother then before. But I have noticed more heat on the right side. Maybe acer just pumped up the standard clock speed or something I don't know. Before the update I almost had no heating problem now it seems to be stronger. I will test the other powersetti maybe the device gets less heated.
Send from my A700

eman01 said:
What tweaks did you do to reduce lag?
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In both places in Settings where you are able to change the font size, I set to "normal," disabled the ring, and deleted all the Acer bloat programs and Kindle and Zinio. Installed Apex Launcher, and it actually worked pretty fast. This update borked all that. Settings are all the same, but it is running slow again.
I'm looking forward to custom ROMs...Acer kinda failed on this update.

BonzenPaule said:
Received a new update today.
AV043_A700_1.0055.00_EMEA_DE
Sice: ~40 mb
It adds 2 new power option to the settings. They are called balanced and performance...
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I don't see these power options in my settings. Is this something in the German version but not the US version?

Captain Crypto said:
I don't see these power options in my settings. Is this something in the German version but not the US version?
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Well what's your version? I just got this update yesterday and it was the second one this week. At first I had 01.0027.00_EMEA_DE which didn't change to much. I.e it didn't had the 2 new power settings. Maybe you will get it later.
Send from my A700

Well, i got the first 5Mb update a couple of days ago and today there is anotherone for germany online ..
.. the first one upgraded from image rv07rc03 / buildNr 1.023.00 to image rv07rc06 / buildNr 1.027.00 and it was 'only' 5Mb large. The new update is image rv23rc02 and about 40Mb large and should correct some issues with the sensors, apk-crushes, adds more languages and some energy options ..
.. i will install it later today and report back if there's something realy worthy about it
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Added also a screenshot from the update notification

I am now at build number AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1.
Not sure if that helps with answering the question since the build numbers are different.
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Captain Crypto said:
I am now at build number AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1.
Not sure if that helps with answering the question since the build numbers are different.
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Well that's explains why you don't got the power settings. It's not yet implemented in your build. Just wait for another update with a higher number and you will get it too.
Send from my A700

I would love a copy of the AV043_A700_1.029.00_PA_CUS1 ROM is possible....

Hi, my A700 is unlocked and rooted, the installation of the OTA failed:
do I have before to lock and unroot?
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Just for the stats, versions after the latest update:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Image-Version: Acer_av043_a700_rv23rc02_emea_de
Build-Number: Acer_av043_a700_1.55.00_emea_de
Kernel Version: 2.6.39.4+

[Q] Photon Q Performance - Any mods/tweaks?

I've had my phone for a while now, over a year. I've been extremely happy with it, so much so that I'll probably order another one.
My only complaint about the phone is I have found the performance to be getting worse.
I'm running the Carbon ROM, Android 4.42
CARBON-KK-NIGHTLY-20140529-1232, build date May 29, 2014.
The guy who does the simcard mod installed this and told me it was more stable than the Cryogen mods that everyone here seems to be using. What do you guys think?
Should I stay with this ROM, or should I switch to the Cryo? I read on another thread that someone downgraded to 10.2.1 and his phone's performance was a lot better.
Is there any other tweaks that can be done within the Android OS to improve performance? I'm a believer in enable only what you need.. I need, GPS, Data, Phone, Texting, Wifi. Not much else.. don't use too many apps.
Thoughts & comments appreciated.. Thanks
/Fever

There's an unofficial carbon build that's added some performance stuff to it - it allows you to use a faster file system (f2fs) and I think he's got zram support in there too. Plus it's a newer version of kitkat and all that. If I were in your position, I'd try that first cuz it's probably a smooth update. But who knows, 10.2 could be faster, I started with 11. There's also a modified kernel that allows you to overclock from the standard 1.5GHz all the way up to 1.89GHz, as well as underclock I think to save battery, although never looked closely into that myself or exactly which roms it'll work with but I think any official CM11, but you couldn't use it with f2fs as that has to be in kernel.

Iview 420TPC-TW Rom an bootloader support help

I everyone,
A wile back I bought an IVIEW 420TPC-WT and its a nice little device for tinkering but its slow and unstable out of the box. I was able to install Nova launcher and no-frills cpu on it and it ran better but the stock rom is terrible and the device runs out of its 512 Mb ram quickly. The apps crash and the devices freezes. Even my HTC Incredible runs better than this.
Does anyone know how to make a good working and light weight rom with possibly a custom boot loader for it?
There is already root that works great. Apps are starting to not run on it anymore due to its limitations. Its fast but the stock rom does not handle the hardware correctly.
I don't mind testing anything if it helps others with similar questions.

[Q] Why is my N5 so slow ?

I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...

mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1

Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.

I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way

SuicideFlasher said:
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...

daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?

I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.

What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?

pingu11 said:
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x

yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?

Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)

Memory issue
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.

daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla

Char_G said:
What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.

daedric said:
And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2

I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0

Honor 8S (2GB, UK) horrible memory management. Any suggestions?

Hey everyone!
I've got an Honor 8S in the UK (2GB variant) for a while now and can't do anything but observe how bad this device is with it's stock rom, which is currently rolling an EMUI 9.1 with Android 9.
System and UI by default uses ~1GB RAM; apps struggle to load / scroll all the time with major stutters and lags; multi-tasking is impossible as the system kills your idle apps whatever you do in battery / performance settings - Hell, I just had google maps opened the other day, accidentally touched the home button, then went back to maps, and it completely reloaded, not to talk about Facebook or some "heavier" apps; Even setting phone orientation requires approx. 5-10 seconds time-by-time to complete.
Can anyone suggest a solution for this kind of issue? I don't really have experience installing custom roms, and not sure if that could help in the first place, then again as a newly purchased device I don't know whether or not this could void my warranty.
Any opinions and suggestions are welcome! Thank you very much!

zsombor6 said:
Hey everyone!
I've got an Honor 8S in the UK (2GB variant) for a while now and can't do anything but observe how bad this device is with it's stock rom, which is currently rolling an EMUI 9.1 with Android 9.
System and UI by default uses ~1GB RAM; apps struggle to load / scroll all the time with major stutters and lags; multi-tasking is impossible as the system kills your idle apps whatever you do in battery / performance settings - Hell, I just had google maps opened the other day, accidentally touched the home button, then went back to maps, and it completely reloaded, not to talk about Facebook or some "heavier" apps; Even setting phone orientation requires approx. 5-10 seconds time-by-time to complete.
Can anyone suggest a solution for this kind of issue? I don't really have experience installing custom roms, and not sure if that could help in the first place, then again as a newly purchased device I don't know whether or not this could void my warranty.
Any opinions and suggestions are welcome! Thank you very much!
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What do you expect when running 9.1 on a device with only 1GB of RAM. That's what happens when you run a newer ROM on a device that has limited hardware. Hardware limited devices can't handle newer ROMs, they just don't have the hardware to handle it without lagging.
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Droidriven said:
What do you expect when running 9.1 on a device with only 1GB of RAM. That's what happens when you run a newer ROM on a device that has limited hardware. Hardware limited devices can't handle newer ROMs, they just don't have the hardware to handle it without lagging.
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Obviously. So Huawei should address the issue, which I really believe they won't for being preoccupied with flagship devices. I just don't understand why they push the new ROM and all updates on entry- and mid-level device, if they damn well know it's unmanageable; and in my case, we're talking about a current year's summer released phone. A thing I know for sure is that I'm departing myself further away from Huawei/Honor.
So addressing the issue, would a custom ROM work out, or should I just try living with it as is?

zsombor6 said:
Obviously. So Huawei should address the issue, which I really believe they won't for being preoccupied with flagship devices. I just don't understand why they push the new ROM and all updates on entry- and mid-level device, if they damn well know it's unmanageable; and in my case, we're talking about a current year's summer released phone. A thing I know for sure is that I'm departing myself further away from Huawei/Honor.
So addressing the issue, would a custom ROM work out, or should I just try living with it as is?
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You can try rooting and modifying the stock software to optimize it or you can try a custom ROM, but even the newer custom ROMs won't be any more efficient. All ROMs from lollipop to now are too much for devices with 1GB RAM.
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Droidriven said:
You can try rooting and modifying the stock software to optimize it or you can try a custom ROM, but even the newer custom ROMs won't be any more efficient. All ROMs from lollipop to now are too much for devices with 1GB RAM.
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it's 2 GBs, 1 GB is actually the remaining RAM as system and UI reserve ~1GB

zsombor6 said:
it's 2 GBs, 1 GB is actually the remaining RAM as system and UI reserve ~1GB
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Ah, I see, that should be enough for custom ROMs depending on how skilled the developer is, the more skilled, the more likely their ROM will be optimized for functionality.
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