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[Q] What Hoggs Your Ram?

I would like to know what are your guys readings of RAM usage. Mine sits around 240MB/339MB
Is that high or normal? I do have quite a bit of widgets on different home screens so I dont know what the baseline is. Please share your results.

Good topic I was wondering this myself ...
Average ram I have is about 128MB free out off 339MB
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179mb out of 339
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moshe22 said:
179mb out of 339
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.

fknfocused said:
Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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Task MAnagers!?!?!
I'm not sure if i am 100% right about this maybe won of the senior members who does know can enlighten us on this...
But I remember reading somewhere that task managers some times can hurt your phones RAM usage. I don't use one anymore unless it comes stock. and then I rarely find a reason to open it on mine. In standby I am running around 80-100 with 200-300 of freem RAM so with the SGS4G i don't think i will find a reason to use more than the stock utilities. I somtimes will installl a tool to monitor the RAM to see what I'm usin but every once in a while I go through and uninstall anything I don't need right away. I figure ussually being in good internet coverage I can always put something back.
So does anyone else know about wether or not the "Task Manager" could actually be a tantric in some cases?

moshe22 said:
No widgets running at the moment though.
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.

http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Very good article about task killers
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Bassmanjames said:
So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
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Well, this is def not the case anymore. I sit around 200MB free. Ever since cwm's final release the doors opened for us. Go get some love
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You shouldn't have to worry too much about RAM usage. A lot of it used by the OS. But yeah widgets does lower it and whatever app you're using. But I hope you don't resort to using task killers just to save 50mb's of RAM. It's there for use and shouldn't be looked at too much.
Mine shows about 400/626, but haven't noticed any big difference in battery drain when it's at 300/626.

Simple answer....everything hogs ram. The best way to tell what's worse is settings » applications » manage applications and watch your ram usage when you have certain things running. You will notice what is hogging more than others.
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Thank you for the info everybody. Been ruinning just fine all day with the ram almost maxed out, hard to break that task manager habit though lol. Goona keep reading before I root-flash-mod need to make sure I get it right the first time.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week

Samsung and Tmo set many bloatware to run ALL the time and hogs RAM
via Linda file manager and auto memory manager (which tweak's android's memory management, not a standard task killer), i saw many apps that always run (many with priority equals to android system and the phone app) such as "wifi calling, visual voice mail, my account, qik, device management, drm, etc.
not everyone use these apps and they take up precious RAM and tiny amount of CPU cycles.
worse, however, is how the phone keeps loading unused, unaccessed, unwanted apps into memory (been weeks since I used pandora, yet it keeps getting reloaded into memory).
from clean boot, I get 150mb free. after a week, I get 45-55mb. This causes memory manager to kill off app as soon as you switch away and alot of stutter (dont you hate it when your browser gets killed)
Dont know if theres a fix for this. I tried tweaking the OOM parameters but it doesnt seem to work on this phone. Samsung probably tweaked something that broke this.

Laggy Android Phone ? Here are some tips and tricks

After using your Android device for some time it may begin to slow down and lag, and this is quite frustrating for every user in such situation. The more apps you install on your Android device, the less memory you make available on your device. Then your device will become slower in processing your apps and this will definitely affect your battery life and device performance. Just like no one likes to use a slow computer, no one also loves using a slow Android device. So let’s look at how we can make our device faster again.
How to make your Android device faster again:
1. Reboot your Android device:
If your Android device suddenly becomes slow and takes unnecessary time to respond, reboot your device as this will kill all processes consuming your memory. Then you can launch your desired apps. If your Android is still slow after rebooting follow the steps below.
2. Uninstall unnecessary and unused apps:
It is a common practice for Android users to install a lot of apps, some of these apps are rarely used or unnecessary, uninstall such apps to make more memory available for other important apps to use in your device. Ensure to always keep minimum apps on your Android device and keep only the important ones. The less apps you run, the more responsive your Android device will be since there will now be free available memory to use.
3. Reduce the number of Widgets/Home screens you use in your device:
Reduce the number of widget your device and also reduce to its minimum the number of Home screens on your device. Widgets consume your memory as their services run on your device even when you are not using them. Reducing them will make more memory available.
4. Install a Custom ROM:
Since newer versions of Android OS performs better than their older counterparts, it will be wise to install custom ROMs to get a newer version of Android OS. This will make your device more responsive.
5. Transfer apps to Memory Card:
As much as this may involve rooting your Android device, moving apps to your memory card will make more memory space available in your internal memory which serves as RAM to your device. A2SD is an app that can allow you to install apps on your SD card rather than your internal memory and this will help you ensure more internal space on your device.
6. Turn of unnecessary services when not in use:
It is advisable to turn off services you are not using anytime you are not using it. Services like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS etc. Most times even when you are not using an app, its services may still be running on the background, so killing the services manually will make more space available to other apps.
Final Thoughts:
So much have been written about this topic in so many blogs, no matter what have been written one thing remains certain, when you install so many apps, your memory is used up and your Android device requires memory to process quickly, so when the memory have been used by other apps, it is always difficult for your device to perform as expected. So I will advise you to always ensure good memory management practices that will always free up internal memory for your Android device to perform optimally.
Hit thanks if u find it helpful
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Craziness
Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:

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Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:
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thanks a lot FalCon i really appreciate it
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FalConn232 said:
Find it helpful? You have no idea how crazy this is. I literally have given almost the exact same advice to most of my friends when it comes to their laggy androids. Since I work in retail phone sales and am a computer geek, of course I rooted my atrix 2 as soon as I got it. CM7 CM9 back to Gingerbread, then ICS leak came and voila. Anyway KUDOS listen up people this guy knows what he's talking about. Custom ROMs, Apps to SD CARD, things will go a lot smoother.:good:
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See the dev section. We have a JB leak.(I'm from a2 forum too ) A thousand times better than ICS. Not for ATT rite now, but will be soon available for em.
Life!

ill visit ur thread and check that rom
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joshxrain said:
ill visit ur thread and check that rom
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?? That wasn't for u!
Life!

i know dude , im just interested in ur rom
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i know dude , im just interested in ur rom
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Oh in that case here it is
Life!

thanks
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If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance

Athoomas said:
If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance
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At the cost of lesser battery life, and OCing too much can literally damage the processor and make it less efficient
Life!

thanks for these

755 said:
thanks for these
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anytime dude , anytime
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It should be noted that when you move apps to SD that have widgets, it usually makes the widgets unusable. Good info none-the-less.
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Hedied4me said:
It should be noted that when you move apps to SD that have widgets, it usually makes the widgets unusable. Good info none-the-less.
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hmm you're right about that , maybe i just forgot to include that in my post , thanks for tellin me anyway
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Athoomas said:
If you root your phone you can also overclock your phone, making it work harder for higher performance
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Overcloack its a risk, i dont suggest it at all because there a reason why Sony or Samsung or HTC set that frequency on that CPU, that reason is safety and durability, two things that jailbreak leaves... Do it at your own risk

Cilip said:
Overcloack its a risk, i dont suggest it at all because there a reason why Sony or Samsung or HTC set that frequency on that CPU, that reason is safety and durability, two things that jailbreak leaves... Do it at your own risk
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yea u got it right dude , do it at ur own risk
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What about kernel? Ofcourse maybe better to change stock rom to custom, but kernel better use stock or custom?

koolnew said:
What about kernel? Ofcourse maybe better to change stock rom to custom, but kernel better use stock or custom?
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some custom rom already have kernel in it so i guess its custom ...
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Well, for the least I can say, it works! Thanks.

CM10.1 Memory

I can't seem to find a definitive answer anywhere as to why our 1 GB RAM only shows up at 669 MB on CM10.1 nightlies. I can understand the ROM requiring some space, but 355 MB seems excessive.
So what's the real deal behind this? Other 1 GB phones seem to still show up with 900+ MB in "About Phone" - eg the One X, also using CM10.1.
The reason I am keen to know is because using the default minfree values (I don't really want to have to tweak these), I find apps close WAY too often when something runs in the foreground. I have trimmed down my memory footprint majorly, have only a couple of essential widgets and three home screens. I don't think that in 2013 with a phone that has 1 GB of RAM one should need to minimise things down to one home screen and one widget just to be able to run memory-hungry apps.
So does anyone know why CM10.1 eats all the RAM, how to get it back, or how to stop apps from dying all the time? I can't even get through a 3DMark or Basemark X benchmark without it crashing halfway through due to lack of memory, even with all background apps closed.
Any insight would be much appreciated.

same issues
I have a sgs1 (i9000) and am having exactly the same issue.
CM10 was fine..I always run the screen filter app as I find even the dimmest of brightness too much. It NEVER would close this app before, since CM10.1 on using any app it does it all the time!
What is so f******* frustrating is that i am very ill in bed & with photosensitivity..so going from a screen dim of 38% to whatever the default auto is (really, any of these stock settings are bad for ur eyes long term!) just makes me scream!!!
I have 386mb or so, so obviously this is not the fault of my phone since u r having the same issue with much more memory than me it's something they have changed in CM10.1 since screen filter is a tiny app.
I frequently close all apps with a task manager & anyone that thinks they r a smart a** telling me 'android has its own memory management..u don't need to do that..it will make ur phone slower blah blah crap is talking up their exit hole lol I have disabled most apps running on various state changes via autostarts & my phone works faster for it! Some games WON'T load unless I close apps or restart - I'd like to see ur excuses for this lol There is a difference with the technical & the reality in this sense believe me!
I am considering going back to CM10 as this issue not to be sorted by now is ridiculous, but perhaps only a few have it as I don't see any replies to ur question.

I also thought about this... Where is the RAM? I tried CM10 and back to stock for 1 Day after flashing... I am more satisfied with my cleaned stock..
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If I remember right some kind of cache is on ram but even sense don't have 1gb yet One X does.
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I feel you. I got the same problem with CM10.1. CM10.0 left me with a total of roughly 783MB. Apparently I was told it's something to do with the kernel and that the developers have not been able to work out the memory management.
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669 here too
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You'll never get the full 1gb, because the gpu etc need some shared ram too. But I want to know why cm10.0 has more memory available than cm10.1 on the same device

Well it seems the latest nightlies (unofficial) since yesterday seem to have resolved the memory issue.

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Well it seems the latest nightlies (unofficial) since yesterday seem to have resolved the memory issue.
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Did someone confirm this?
Is there now something like ~800MB usable from within Android?

YoMarK said:
Did someone confirm this?
Is there now something like ~800MB usable from within Android?
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No the total usable is the same (669 MB) but there is much more of it free due to some memory leaks being fixed.

Thats nice to hear. Waiting to see if some bright mind fixes the low available memory issue on the One S. My other device the Xperia T has the same (Qualcomm snapdragon S4) chip set but much more usable memory in CM10.1(800MB)

Any news on this? I saw that the one s c2 has got 800+mb free on cm10.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263235
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[GUIDE] Get rid of lag for your Galaxy S4 - Rooted phones only - Seeder.apk

So I keep hearing complaints about "lag" with the Galaxy S4. Some of you have it and some don't.
Well, debloating your ROM (removing junk apps that you don't use) will typically reduce lag since these extra apps aren't fighting for system resources. But that doesn't work for everyone.
Another thing to do is to flash an AOSP (android open source project) ROM. These ROM's (including gapps) are usually less than 300MB in total size, while a stock or even debloated stock TouchWiz ROM are almost always 800MB to 1.3+GB in size.
Another thing you can try is to install "Seeder". Some folks will suggest it doesn't really do anything for you. Some others will say it uses up a lot of battery. So I guess every application is different. Because for me, even with an AOSP ROM, I seem to get slightly faster system response time when I click on something. And I've left my phone alone over eight+hours and checked battery useage and don't see Seeder anywhere taking up any battery.
Here is the Seeder main application thread. There, you can "thank" the developer (lambgx02) and also ask questions about the app. You can also download Seeder from that thread for free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Or, you can be a nice person and "buy" the app from the Play Store. At less than $2, it's not very expensive.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
You can either read about how/why the app works or doesn't. Or you can try it for yourself.
For me, it's a must-have on the S4 since even AOSP ROM's still have a small amount of lag when compared with the smoothed-out ROM's on the S3.\
REQUIREMENTS:
-Rooted ROM
-Canadian or USA or Euro S4's, it works for all of them.
-TouchWiz or AOSP, it doesn't matter which.
So, here's how to install it:
1) Download Seeder to your internal or external SD card. It doesn't matter where.
2) Using Root Explorer (or your file browser of choice), locate and click on the seeder.apk.
3) Select "Install".
4) Select "Install" again.
5) Click "open".
6) Read the disclaimer and click "OK".
7) Grant root permissions:
8) Make your settings identical to mine (to start with). I've actually since changed mine from "Moderate" to "Aggressive" because I noticed no change in battery life. So, why not.
9) Now reboot.
10) Wait two minutes after the phone comes back up (to allow background start-up processes to finish) and start using phone normally.
Good luck, hope it works for you as well as it works for me. This is not a "cure-all" for lag, but it should help speed up an otherwise healthy system.
Don't expect miracles either. Only a really fubard'd ROM might show HUGE differences. But this app will probably help a little bit.

I had tried this program on my ATT GNOTE after the new JB update that seemed to slow everyone's phones to a crawl. It did help somewhat, but not enough for it to become bearable.. Caved and bought the S4. Seems like the app DOES work.

This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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Try this instead

plwalsh88 said:
This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.

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I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.
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Right, and it shows that the theory behind the "fix" is flawed, having no effect on app execution. The only positive performance you're seeing is a result of boosting CPU speeds. It's not saying you're not seeing results. It's just that you're seeing them for the wrong reason; the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.

CZ Eddie said:
Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.
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The system lags because touchwiz has many many features beyond those that you can just simply remove with titanium backup and such, there are a lot of features;what they seem to call them. That adjust color and lighting beyond ambient at all times no matter what. Samsung needs to release an update which I know they're cooking up, that optimizes these resource hog and debugs that are constantly running in the background... Let's just hope we get it soon and not have to wait till 4.3 to get it. The only way to get rid of all of the lag is to switch to also otherwise there will always be a tad amount of it, until samsung fixes it themselves; there's only so much developers can conjure up

The only way to get rid of the lag is by installing a custom ROM, either AOSP/AOKP or a TW based ROM like Omega or Winam. Then installing a custom, polished kernel like KT's kernel. Then disabling the scroll cache.
That makes this thing run like it should have in the first place.

Yeah seeder sucks sorry to say its not actually doing much.

Note Slowing down

So I Have been spending a lot of time and effort with my GS3, tweaking the kernal and rom for battery performance and it seems to be working well, now I need to address my Note. Its gotten really slow and feels laggy. My memory used by running apps is less then half. I have greenify freezing a bunch of stuff i dont really need. Im rooted on stock for Rom, with stock Kernel. I was eyeballing some Roms but really dont want to lose any TW functionality, but was hoping to hold off on that until some 2014 Roms popped up. I run Apex as a launcher right now.
Has anyone noticed speed differences with Custom TW Roms or Kernels? or have a good CPU monitor app, they all look pretty, meh, on the play store (i really wish you could see number of dl's and raters from the list view on the play store)...
Up for any suggestions....

Your problem likely has nothing to do with "available RAM" or "processes".
... how full is your internal flash (your "sdcard")?

Neflhiem said:
So I Have been spending a lot of time and effort with my GS3, tweaking the kernal and rom for battery performance and it seems to be working well, now I need to address my Note. Its gotten really slow and feels laggy. My memory used by running apps is less then half. I have greenify freezing a bunch of stuff i dont really need. Im rooted on stock for Rom, with stock Kernel. I was eyeballing some Roms but really dont want to lose any TW functionality, but was hoping to hold off on that until some 2014 Roms popped up. I run Apex as a launcher right now.
Has anyone noticed speed differences with Custom TW Roms or Kernels? or have a good CPU monitor app, they all look pretty, meh, on the play store (i really wish you could see number of dl's and raters from the list view on the play store)...
Up for any suggestions....
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
Try 'Moderate' profile.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
Set to 512. It's the same as seeder but I felt this is much more stable. I'm using this despite paying for seeder.

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
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I'm sorry, but both of those apps are essentially useless. Task killers are completely unnecessary with the version of Android we're using, and "Seeder" type apps have been shown to have no benefit (the entropy pool is refreshed a different way in post 3.0 kernel versions).
I'm still waiting for the OP to tell me how much free space is left on his internal flash; that measurement has actual deterministic correlation to lag.

Nikorasu said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
Try 'Moderate' profile.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
Set to 512. It's the same as seeder but I felt this is much more stable. I'm using this despite paying for seeder.
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Autokiller is not a task killer.
I'm aware that seeder does not work as well for Ics/Jb, compared to 2.x. On my Razr, seeder has more obvious effects on 4.0, 4.1 compared to 4.2 and 4.3. Perhaps I have a crapload of apps/games on my phone/tablet so the effects are more obvious.
Boths apps are free and are reversible so no harm trying.

kcrudup said:
I'm sorry, but both of those apps are essentially useless. Task killers are completely unnecessary with the version of Android we're using, and "Seeder" type apps have been shown to have no benefit (the entropy pool is refreshed a different way in post 3.0 kernel versions).
I'm still waiting for the OP to tell me how much free space is left on his internal flash; that measurement has actual deterministic correlation to lag.
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Ok.. for the internal, out of 25.87 GB i have 18.86 GB Available
On Ram, from Application Manager im showing .93G used 863 MB free
While it may not seem like it, this im sure is the problem. I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings, but im not sure where im looking to clear that up... im only using half of each..

Nikorasu said:
Autokiller is not a task killer.
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Might as well be- its page says it "fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time", so it modifies the various low-memory-killer limits so Android does the killing, but the idea is the same. People have to get out of the mindset that "bloat" means anything, need to remember that unused memory is wasted memory and that the system has a better idea of how to manage the apps you've chosen.
Neflhiem said:
... for the internal, out of 25.87 GB I have 18.86 GB available
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You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
On RAM, from Application Manager I'm showing [930 MB] used 863 MB free ... this I'm sure is the problem.
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No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings
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From where? When do these occur?

You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
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Yeah, 32GB unit, No, havent tried an Fstrim app, grabbing it now...
No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
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Sorry, that didnt read right, i see i have plenty of open mem, i ment that i suspect the lag is comeing from some sort of storage/memory problem. An unseen one per say.
From where? When do these occur?
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When i install an app. thats when i get it. I couldnt remember at first.. was thinking its random, but it seems to pop up when i install and app. I cant tell if its only play store or sideloaded as well, dont do enough of the latter.
Ill install Fstrim, and see if it helps some.
thanks for taking the time to do this.

Neflhiem said:
I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings
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Neflhiem said:
When I install an app. That's when I get it. I couldn't remember at first. Was thinking it's random, but it seems to pop up when I install an app.
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OK, something isn't right here. Can you do me a favor? Run "adb shell df" and send me that?

kcrudup said:
Might as well be- its page says it "fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time", so it modifies the various low-memory-killer limits so Android does the killing, but the idea is the same. People have to get out of the mindset that "bloat" means anything, need to remember that unused memory is wasted memory and that the system has a better idea of how to manage the apps you've chosen.
You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
From where? When do these occur?
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Yup, it tweaks Android internal memory killer. I won't recommend this if it didn't work for me.
Changing it to moderate preset is pretty safe.

Thanks, I'll send that probably Monday. Thanks again
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Neflhiem said:
While it may not seem like it, this im sure is the problem. I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings, but im not sure where im looking to clear that up... im only using half of each..
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How odd! I got today this same warning too. I have 2,2gig free space i my internal memory and I was installing some app and got a message that i have only 1,48mb free or so.
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enigma_x said:
How odd! I got today this same warning too. I have 2,2gig free space i my internal memory and I was installing some app and got a message that i have only 1,48mb free or so.
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We have two note 10.1 tablets(wifi only). One is 16 gb the other is 32 gb... On the 16 there is about 5.6 gb free. When installing some apps from google play we get the same message . and it says 1.48 free.. I think this is a Bug with the new play store. The message will NOT Come up when side loading apps is what i have noticed.Unless it prevents you from installing the apps i would not worry about that message.

Wait for 4.3 and the TRIM support.

elzeus said:
Wait for 4.3 and the TRIM support.
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We have TRIM already.
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For you folks seeing "Not enough free space" issues, how are you determining your "Free Flash" numbers?

kcrudup said:
We have TRIM already.
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Really?
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kcrudup said:
We have TRIM already
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enigma_x said:
Really?
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Yes. The stock kernel has it, see that "discard" option:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /data ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,discard,noauto_da_alloc,journal_async_commit,errors=panic wait,check,encryptable=footer
... and my kernels have that, plus at boot time I run "fstrim" on every partition:
Code:
/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /data
/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /cache
/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /system
4.3 runs that last part more often, but technically if the system is running the "discard" option on the filesystems, at least once at boot should really be enough.

kcrudup said:
OK, something isn't right here. Can you do me a favor? Run "adb shell df" and send me that?
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hmm. I dont have a PC to connect to, and am having an hard time finding something i can run from my Note. any suggestions on how to run ADB Shell DF locally?

i use system tuner pro. esp if you are rooted. gives a great overall outlook on what is going on with the system.
i personally haven't tried any custom rom's yet. and i can tell also my Note starting to feel laggy.
really hoping a 4.4 custom rom comes along. I heard they added IR blaster support in 4.4 and would really love that to be available. really the only functionality holding me back from custom roms atm.

killerskincanoe said:
i use system tuner pro. esp if you are rooted. gives a great overall outlook on what is going on with the system.
i personally haven't tried any custom rom's yet. and i can tell also my Note starting to feel laggy.
really hoping a 4.4 custom rom comes along. I heard they added IR blaster support in 4.4 and would really love that to be available. really the only functionality holding me back from custom roms atm.
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ok.. will try that out.. creepy ass avatar by the way..