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I would like to know what are your guys readings of RAM usage. Mine sits around 240MB/339MB
Is that high or normal? I do have quite a bit of widgets on different home screens so I dont know what the baseline is. Please share your results.
Good topic I was wondering this myself ...
Average ram I have is about 128MB free out off 339MB
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179mb out of 339
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179mb out of 339
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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Task MAnagers!?!?!
I'm not sure if i am 100% right about this maybe won of the senior members who does know can enlighten us on this...
But I remember reading somewhere that task managers some times can hurt your phones RAM usage. I don't use one anymore unless it comes stock. and then I rarely find a reason to open it on mine. In standby I am running around 80-100 with 200-300 of freem RAM so with the SGS4G i don't think i will find a reason to use more than the stock utilities. I somtimes will installl a tool to monitor the RAM to see what I'm usin but every once in a while I go through and uninstall anything I don't need right away. I figure ussually being in good internet coverage I can always put something back.
So does anyone else know about wether or not the "Task Manager" could actually be a tantric in some cases?
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Very good article about task killers
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
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Well, this is def not the case anymore. I sit around 200MB free. Ever since cwm's final release the doors opened for us. Go get some love
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You shouldn't have to worry too much about RAM usage. A lot of it used by the OS. But yeah widgets does lower it and whatever app you're using. But I hope you don't resort to using task killers just to save 50mb's of RAM. It's there for use and shouldn't be looked at too much.
Mine shows about 400/626, but haven't noticed any big difference in battery drain when it's at 300/626.
Simple answer....everything hogs ram. The best way to tell what's worse is settings » applications » manage applications and watch your ram usage when you have certain things running. You will notice what is hogging more than others.
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Thank you for the info everybody. Been ruinning just fine all day with the ram almost maxed out, hard to break that task manager habit though lol. Goona keep reading before I root-flash-mod need to make sure I get it right the first time.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week
Samsung and Tmo set many bloatware to run ALL the time and hogs RAM
via Linda file manager and auto memory manager (which tweak's android's memory management, not a standard task killer), i saw many apps that always run (many with priority equals to android system and the phone app) such as "wifi calling, visual voice mail, my account, qik, device management, drm, etc.
not everyone use these apps and they take up precious RAM and tiny amount of CPU cycles.
worse, however, is how the phone keeps loading unused, unaccessed, unwanted apps into memory (been weeks since I used pandora, yet it keeps getting reloaded into memory).
from clean boot, I get 150mb free. after a week, I get 45-55mb. This causes memory manager to kill off app as soon as you switch away and alot of stutter (dont you hate it when your browser gets killed)
Dont know if theres a fix for this. I tried tweaking the OOM parameters but it doesnt seem to work on this phone. Samsung probably tweaked something that broke this.
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.
i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.
Im really sorry for asking but, Ive exhausted all other search methods to find an answer. What can I do about the extremely low ram availability? Ive got like, on a good day 110 out of 329mb available. Is this normal? Ive tried reading up on flashing a new kernel but Im not positive this will fix the issue.
Im running the uvkg4 2.3.4 with the kernel that came with it. Go launcher sits on top of that using about 18mb. Maybe Im just expecting to much from my phone?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Even if its to yell at me cause I missed something while searching on here.
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Dude i think its a usual problem i have a galaxy fit and i also have aost 100mb-130mb of free RAM out of 280.
So, May be we are expecting too much from our galaxies!!
However in a HTC phone( i dont remember the model) it has 784MB RAM!!!...
the best way to free Ram is close useless running apps and uninstalling them!
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My wife has an LG Optimus for Tmo...and she's getting like, 261 of 418. The difference seems only slight but, I'd like all the ram I can possibly have. I use the built in task manager to keep up with running services. TB for freezing or uninstalling. I don't have a whole heck of a lot of things left to kill that would equal 100mb. Maybe 60 at most.
I don't know. I am still interested in the whole kernel thing though. I've read what a kernel is, and is supposed to do. I just don't understand what exactly the benefit is of flashing one over. Like drhonks, I've read all about it everywhere...for the life of me can't find what the exact benefits are. Same thing with the modem. I'd like to flash that too to fix the constant drop of data connection even though it reads 4g, but I don't know that that will fix that (lots of thats) problem either.
Does it matter? 100mb of free ram is the same as 200mb free isn't it? It's all unused. with GB, it has a pretty good system for managing tasks, so I didn't think it would be a problem.
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Well, that's true. Even while trying to hurt my phone it doesn't bog down or lag out due to low ram. Thank you for the insight.
Also, with the modem thing..should I open up another question for this? Its something that's now becoming quite the hassle, it drops data way to frequently to be normal.
I read somewhere once that having lower ram is actually a bad thing. The android operating system stores information on apps to help it launch those apps faster. When you clear it out it takes longer to launch because it does not have the information stored anymore.
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For the most part I only have the necessary things required to make my phone work turned on. Aside from Go launcher, and a couple widgets (1-4mb a piece) running. I'm just stumped on where the rest of the memory is, or what's using it.
Are you getting a bunch of launcher reloads? If so, then you might wanna consider switching roms. I tried a few rom/launcher combinations and stuck with audiophile ftw with the newest init.d pack. Stopped my launcher reloads unless I was using a really ram intensive app like plants vs. zombies.
The ram operates like on any computer. if it is cleared, you need to rebuild your workspace cache. If you clear the ram on a phone, you will have to wait a bit longer for the cache to rebuild. It's minimal though. unless you get an error or an fc, I would say there is no need to clear your ram on the phone, especially with the great built in task manager. For games zombies or pewpew, yea, it makes sense to clear it prior to playing, but the system should do it for you anyway, shouldn't it?
Also, do what fbis suggested. Will make a difference
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Yeah honestly you think about what takes the most ram in use stuff like browsers,skype,youtube etcc...but of course you Wont be using all of them at the same time!
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After using my phone for a while, I usually have 60-80mb free. Just different services running etc... Phone doesn't slow down, never have any real memory problems, and the only time I sometimes get a launcher reload is after playing a memory hungry game like PvZ or Gun Bros, and even then it's pretty rare.
Unless it's malfunctioning, those apps sitting in memory will just close if something needs it, you can see this first hand if you view your free memory right after playing a game, I usually see anywhere between 140-200mb free. It then gradually goes down as I use other apps and as some of them auto sync etc.
Except in the case of a buggy app, Android seems to be pretty good at managing memory.
I believe some of the low memory paranoia would go away if we had a task manager like Windows has where it tells you what memory is Cached, Available, and Free. I'd be freaking out as my netbook only has 3 mb free out of 2 gigs right now if Windows didn't tell me the other info lol.
Yea, I'm not getting any heavy launcher reloads. Even if I'm playing a Gameloft game everything seems to run quite smooth. I guess I was just freaking out about the numbers.
I thank you all for the responses and help. I think I'll do a little more research on flashing modems and such before I ask anything about that. There's a helluva lot of information to read about.
As what everybody said here, the 100ish MB free RAM is fine. Android caches the processes so it'll load up faster when you open an app again. Of course, if you clear your RAM, you clear these caches too. When Android needs more memory, it'll kill an app to provide for more memory.
Also, do NOT use a task killer. I can't emphasize that enough. Using that will kill your necessary apps, which will eventually cause your phone to do random reboots. Many people have reported that.
I have been baffled by this since GB era, coz I couldn't figure out why the ram don't add up.
In JB, Settings > Apps > Running, shows a list running apps. you also have an option to see a list of cached apps.
Below the list is a bar graph clearly showing what's free. However, it is about the used part that I don't quite understand. From what I can see, the running apps only make up part of it.
In the attached email, I've marked with red rectangle for I don't know what, yellow rectangle for what I think is the running apps, and purple rectangle on the right for free memory.
Can anyone tell me what the red rectangle represents? Is it memory used by the system?
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Are u just asking for information purposes or is there a specific reason why you're asking.
Battery drain?
Slow processes?
Random reboots?
What ROM are u using?
Im just curious because it can help someone with their response to ur question.
And that is a cool font ur using. Did that come with the ROM or did u apply it?
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Yes 288mb used by system/apps
vidaljs said:
Hi
Are u just asking for information purposes or is there a specific reason why you're asking.
Battery drain?
Slow processes?
Random reboots?
What ROM are u using?
Im just curious because it can help someone with their response to ur question.
And that is a cool font ur using. Did that come with the ROM or did u apply it?
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short answer: slow processes, launcher redraws, laggy operation in general on Jellybro and XenonHD.
with ICS and a few initial JB roms, I totally forgot about this question at the back of my head.
But, I am on Jellybro (CM10 based) and also trying out XenonHD, with both installed after formatting/wiping data, system, cache, and dalvik, and I experienced redraws on launcher and lags in operation in general after a few 10 hours or so of system on time. I checked the running apps, and I saw that the left red rectangle is eating up almost 70% of the ram and only 30+mb shown as free memory.
running app list didn't show anything strange. It's just the free ram is extremely low.
So, I was wondering what the red rectangle area of the memory represented.
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so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
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so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
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Nexus S came with 512mb RAM but from it a portion of that RAM is reserved for graphics and other internal stuff and leave you just with 384Mb for the rest.
vis80k said:
so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
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With such a problems u might try Jelly Belly 1.5.1, I've been running since release and never had such a issue, everything is smooth like butter...
Regarding low memory, don't worry about that, when i fire up all my apps like stock browser, maps, pulse, flipboard etc, i have around 50mb free but still quite smooth.
Btw i tried Xennon and few others and there were laggy like hell on my phone.
Maybe i or my phone, or we both like stock feeling....
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Nexus S came with 512mb RAM but from it a portion of that RAM is reserved for graphics and other internal stuff and leave you just with 384Mb for the rest.
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so os itself is using up the 384 that's left? and so the red rectangle is the os/system usage?
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greg2826 said:
With such a problems u might try Jelly Belly 1.5.1, I've been running since release and never had such a issue, everything is smooth like butter...
Regarding low memory, don't worry about that, when i fire up all my apps like stock browser, maps, pulse, flipboard etc, i have around 50mb free but still quite smooth.
Btw i tried Xennon and few others and there were laggy like hell on my phone.
Maybe i or my phone, or we both like stock feeling....
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jellybro gave me a bit of lag..
xenon was almost unusable.
now am on slimbean and all's good.
similar to jellybelly experience
waiting for jb oxygen release or slimbean to level up to its slimics level~
just missing a few features like volume wake and media skip.
edit. low memory itself is not what's worrying me. it's the frequent launcher redraws and slow app launches and laggy!! response...which strangely doesn't haopen on some roms even with low free mem.... hm~
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vis80k said:
jellybro gave me a bit of lag..
xenon was almost unusable.
now am on slimbean and all's good.
similar to jellybelly experience
waiting for jb oxygen release or slimbean to level up to its slimics level~
just missing a few features like volume wake and media skip.
edit. low memory itself is not what's worrying me. it's the frequent launcher redraws and slow app launches and laggy!! response...which strangely doesn't haopen on some roms even with low free mem.... hm~
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We probably don't have enough ram/processor to run smoothly all those apps etc
Nexus s 1G/512mb < galaxy nexus 2*1.2G/1G
vis80k said:
short answer: slow processes, launcher redraws, laggy operation in general on Jellybro and XenonHD.
with ICS and a few initial JB roms, I totally forgot about this question at the back of my head.
But, I am on Jellybro (CM10 based) and also trying out XenonHD, with both installed after formatting/wiping data, system, cache, and dalvik, and I experienced redraws on launcher and lags in operation in general after a few 10 hours or so of system on time. I checked the running apps, and I saw that the left red rectangle is eating up almost 70% of the ram and only 30+mb shown as free memory.
running app list didn't show anything strange. It's just the free ram is extremely low.
So, I was wondering what the red rectangle area of the memory represented.
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Ur App "swipepad" is a memory hog according to reviews.
try the ROM bare boned... if its still lagging then try a different kernel. Or try for different ROM that does not lag bare boned.
Then add ur memory hog apps one at a time so u can pinpoint the main hog
Good luck.
BTW try the ROM I'm using... it has no lag.... paranoid android by DaXmax
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vidaljs said:
Ur App "swipepad" is a memory hog according to reviews.
try the ROM bare boned... if its still lagging then try a different kernel. Or try for different ROM that does not lag bare boned.
Then add ur memory hog apps one at a time so u can pinpoint the main hog
Good luck.
BTW try the ROM I'm using... it has no lag.... paranoid android by DaXmax
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swipepad takes 6~7mb. never saw it go beyond unreasonable point.
besides, it doesn't count into the red rectangle on the left
as said adding all app memory use in the list does not add up to 300+mb it says is being used...
anyway. got on slimbean and everything smooth and good~
some says it is a cm10 issue and jellybro being kanged cm10, same problem.
but c'mon swipepad is good! can't live without it anymore....
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In application tab, it doesn't show available memory.
That number is "you can get this amount of ram by killing apps(background running...etc)"
When u using it long time, RAM(that value) reduces, so u have to reboot..
Otherwise, How about buying GNex..
BTW, what's ur font in screenshot?
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ioplkj13 said:
In application tab, it doesn't show available memory.
That number is "you can get this amount of ram by killing apps(background running...etc)"
When u using it long time, RAM(that value) reduces, so u have to reboot..
Otherwise, How about buying GNex..
BTW, what's ur font in screenshot?
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...let me see if I understood you correctly.
do you mean that 288mb in my screenshot is what I can get back when I kill all running apps? That means, 288mb MUST equal to the sum of memory used by all the apps in the shown list.
Or, wait, do you mean the numbers next to each app in the list means how much memory will be returned when I kill that app? that just means that the app is taking up that much of memory...
in my screenshot, I have 3 rectangles. maybe they are not clearly contrasted to notice. red rectangle on the left, yellow rectangle in the middle, and purple rectangle on the right.
- purple rectangle on the right seems pretty obvious that 188mb of memory is currently free, of which some cached apps reside at the moment.
- yellow rectangle in the middle, I am guessing it represents the portion of used memory that the apps in the shown list are using.
- reason for this guess is because adding up all apps in the list does not equal 288mb.
- red rectangle on the left, I am guessing it represents OS using up.
- the 288mb seems to represent the SUM of yellow and red rectangle.
- so, 288 + 108 = 396mb is the total usable ram for my phone.
my question is, is my understanding of yellow and red rectangles correct? if not, I wanted to find out from you guys...
oh, and for those interested more in what font that is in the screenshot, the filename says fbplum...
there are other things taking memories as well, like scrolling cache, so if you can reduce that and other things, you get less memory hog, but slightly more laggy, and that's part of the reason why iOS doesn't support real multi-tasking.
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...let me see if I understood you correctly.
do you mean that 288mb in my screenshot is what I can get back when I kill all running apps? That means, 288mb MUST equal to the sum of memory used by all the apps in the shown list.
Or, wait, do you mean the numbers next to each app in the list means how much memory will be returned when I kill that app? that just means that the app is taking up that much of memory...
in my screenshot, I have 3 rectangles. maybe they are not clearly contrasted to notice. red rectangle on the left, yellow rectangle in the middle, and purple rectangle on the right.
- purple rectangle on the right seems pretty obvious that 188mb of memory is currently free, of which some cached apps reside at the moment.
- yellow rectangle in the middle, I am guessing it represents the portion of used memory that the apps in the shown list are using.
- reason for this guess is because adding up all apps in the list does not equal 288mb.
- red rectangle on the left, I am guessing it represents OS using up.
- the 288mb seems to represent the SUM of yellow and red rectangle.
- so, 288 + 108 = 396mb is the total usable ram for my phone.
my question is, is my understanding of yellow and red rectangles correct? if not, I wanted to find out from you guys...
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512-39x=hardware takes ur ram, camcoder, radio...etc
39x=total ram for software
Blue rectangle=ur OS takes RAM+apps you are running(servies maybe..)+Loss of RAM by killing-running apps(reboot clears this)
108mb=Max. Amount of ram you can get when you launch other heavy apps(killing background cache)
For me, cm10 jellybro(0810) works best, but according to benchmark, ram score is little bit bad..(Maybe it's meaningless..)
Let's just wait for rasbean jelly..
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oh, and for those interested more in what font that is in the screenshot, the filename says fbplum...
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Where can i get that
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Billchen0014 said:
there are other things taking memories as well, like scrolling cache, so if you can reduce that and other things, you get less memory hog, but slightly more laggy, and that's part of the reason why iOS doesn't support real multi-tasking.
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on a mobile device with 512mb ram, of which only about 300mb is left available for OS and user apps, full multitasking is not a good thing. 'coz it requires users to take memory management into their own hands.
on newer devices with !GB+ ram, I guess Android OS will do just fine to manage memory.
anyhow, iOS can also run out of memory, right? requiring user to manually remove cached apps from memory, otherwise even iOS becomes laggy, is what I hear from iPhone users.
...and that's coming from an OS where tons of money went in to make smoothness and feel as best as possible~... iOS still gotta improve I guess.
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Where can i get that
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here's the font in a flashable zip file.
boot to recovery, make sure system partition is mounted, then flash the zip.
credits go to the actual person who created the font, whom I have no idea of, and to the person who made it into a flashable zip.
if there's any problem with sharing this font here, let me know so I can take it down immediately.
I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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GB software was/is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea for some to stay on this release until the official OTA has been pushed and tested by the devs to check the possibilities for flashing back to GB - if at all. ICS is more intensive, for example, in terms of resource usage. As smartphones become more capable, our own applications, as well as the Google Mobile Services (GMS) applications, are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM, and full hardware acceleration also results in a need to load additional graphic libraries for certain apps, which makes them use even more RAM.
Another effect of the hardware acceleration is that it can make the battery drain faster in some cases. An example of this is video playback, where the hardware acceleration requires every video frame to be run through the GPU, thus making the system use more power than it would have without HW acceleration.
Out of your RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory allotment to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, is reserved for the Android OS. Within the Android OS, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.
When running low on RAM, typically with less than approximately 40MB left, the activity manager will start to close processes according to priority. At first, idle background activities are killed. The last thing to be closed down is the foreground activity.
Processes that are closed will obviously have to be restarted when the user enters the app again, which takes time and slows the system down. For example, when running a heavy game that uses all available RAM, the activity manager will be forced to kill all processes running in the background. This might include vital functions like the dialler and even the Home screen application. When you exit your game, there is a risk that the phone is perceived as slow, since the Home screen app will have to be restarted, just like every other activity you access afterwards.
Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to GB. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirements, and resource usage in ICS is heavier on the system compared to GB.
I've found that Android runs fine without having much free ram, if you think about it logically there is no need for free ram, if every bit of your ram is going to something then everything is going to work fine. My G2 has 366mb ram, about 40 of that is free right now, but the system still runs smoothly (mostly due to my 1.3ghz overclock), and I can multitask and play games just fine, Android manages memory very well. Keeping an eye on free ram isn't important, you should be worried if things start closing and the OS starts running very slowly tho. Is there more free ram with some of the mods in the development section? SCV7 and stuff?
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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Good point, the bloatware and blurware definitely bogs down the phone, happens on pretty much all phones with manufacturer skins. Which is why CM and AOSP is so awesome.
How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???
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How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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I wouldn't hold your breath for JB on this device. I mean, for gripe's sake, look how long it's taking to get ICS for the A2. But, aside from this phone, CM10 on my S3 is flawless, I have absolutely no complaints. This phone, and this ROM, are perfection...
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i asked about gingerbread sir......comparison of battery life
For me i guess battery is draining just a little lesser in ICS than GB. Difference is not very huge but there its a slight improvement...also you can disable few background tasks...
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i have a similar problem but ...
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
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To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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surprisingly this OTA release is clean and neat with less such stock apps.. and if you want there is an option in the manage application (Settings -> Apps -> ALL) to "Disable" any such stock aps. I've disabled a few annoying running service for me, News and Weather, Facebook, Face Unlock, Social Location, Task etc..
Polycap said:
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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Battery life on ics is actually pretty good.. Running on sc7 leak 2 and my bat life for some reason has greatly improved compared to when I was on GB
would that mess up with my webtop
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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would that still enable me to use my webtop
And The task manager which we had in gb is gone. That could do auto kills which was great.
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