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What is killing my phone's performance?

Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!

petrivka said:
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?

Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?

petrivka said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html

Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up

Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
Still Charged Up

Reilly1812 said:
LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
Still Charged Up
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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cnoevl21 said:
I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
Still Charged Up

Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms

Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
Still Charged Up
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...

petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.

jco23 said:
my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/

petrivka said:
Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.

dwitherell said:
Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...

petrivka said:
...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested

I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!

CalPolyRock said:
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?

Seeder by lambgx02

As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.

AETAaAS said:
As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.
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I'm currently running IconiaN 2.4 and I installed Seeder a little while ago via CWM and tried a few things. Maps is definitely faster like most have said. I played a couple games and I found Edge and Edge Extended to be roughly the same, Pitfall is the same, Beach Buggy Blitz is the same, and so is Sword and Sworcery. TigerArcade (a Mame type emulator) runs WAAAY better now, not sure why, but it might be because the games I'm playing use a caching system to load on the emulator. I'm going to try Need for Speed Most Wanted as that ran like garbage last time I played it and I hope it may be slightly better this time around. Non gaming apps: Youtube is lot more responsive than it used to be, ES File Explorer seems faster as well, not 100% sure, Android Browser and Chrome both seem roughly the same but haven't done extensive testing. Lastly unlocking and hitting home from within apps is definitely smoother and faster like others have been saying.
My recommendation is to go ahead and give it a go as it seems like its worth it, plus if there are updates to it that make it any better you can just CWM those right over the current version with no need to wipe cache or data at all.:cyclops:

Thanks for recommending this. Will try.

[APK] Seeder - Eliminate the lag in your Android device (Needs Root)

From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I came to that thread via LifeHacker, in which they featured it. I'm going to try this now on my freshly-updated-to-Jelly-Bean Note 10.1.
If you want to share a feedback, please post it here. If you want to thank the developer, suggest something, or buy him a beer, please post it on his thread.
APK: Click here (original direct link from his thread)
lambgx02 said:
Hey everyone,
So, I was experiencing significant lag as we all do from time to time, and decided I was going to get to the bottom of it.
After tracing and debugging for hours, I discovered the source of 90% of Android's lag. In a word, entropy (or lack thereof).
Google's JVM, like Sun's, reads from /dev/random. For all random data. Yes, the /dev/random that uses a very limited entropy pool.
Random data is used for all kinds of stuff.. UUID generation, session keys, SSL.. when we run out of entropy, the process blocks. That manifests itself as lag. The process cannot continue until the kernel generates more high quality random data.
So, I cross-compiled rngd, and used it to feed /dev/urandom into /dev/random at 1 second intervals.
Result? I have never used an Android device this fast. :good:
It is literally five times faster in many cases. Chrome, maps, and other heavy applications load in about 1/2 a second, and map tiles populate as fast as I can scroll. Task switching is instantaneous. You know how sometimes when you hit the home button, it takes 5-10 seconds for the home screen to repopulate? Yeah. Blocking on read of /dev/random. Problem solved. But don't take my word for it .. give it a shot!
Update!
I've built a very simple Android app that bundles the binary, and starts/stops the service (on boot if selected). I'll be adding more instrumentation, but for now, give it a shot! This APK does not modify /system in any way, so should be perfectly safe.
This is my first userspace Android app, so bear with me!
Note that this APK is actually compatible with all Android versions, and all (armel) devices. It's not at all specific to the Captivate Glide.
Caveats
There is a (theoretical) security risk, in that seeding /dev/random with /dev/urandom decreases the quality of the random data. In practice, the odds of this being cryptographically exploited are far lower than the odds of someone attacking the OS itself (a much simpler challenge).
This may adversely affect battery life, since it wakes every second. It does not hold a wakelock, so it shouldn't have a big impact, but let me know if you think it's causing problems. I can add a blocking read to the code so that it only executes while the screen is on. On the other hand, many of us attribute lag to lacking CPU power. Since this hack eliminates almost all lag, there is less of a need to overclock, potentially reducing battery consumption.
If you try it, let me know how it goes.
ROM builders - feel free to integrate this into your ROMs (either the .apk / application, or just the rngd binary called from init.d)!
If anyone's interested, I've launched a paid app on the Play store for non-xda users. As I add features I'll post the new versions here as a thanks to you guys (and xda community at large for being such a great resource). But if anyone's interested in the market's auto-update feature, just thought I'd mention it.
Cheers! :highfive:
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I don't know if it's a placebo effect, but it seems that enabling this entropy seeder makes the device faster for real ^^

Does this need root?
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tuffballa said:
Does this need root?
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Yeah, I forgot to add.

Redemption rom 4.1.2 is pretty quick and only lag was keyboard opening.
This mod keyboard instant opening now .
jje
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Post one on the portal has more info .
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
jje

Without reading the portal piece I guess the reason you may perceive speed up as that the device will be spending longer on higher cpu cycles by this polling.
In other words it is not a good thing for battery.
You can try playing with the governor settings to increase responsiveness, but "lag" can be caused by quite a lot of things. Random seeding shouldn't be one of them.
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A lot of developers are stating that this is a fluke on anything running ICS+. Any boost in performance is 99% a placebo effect.

Placebo effect or not, I can notice improvement in the note general operation.
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Disprove it or walk away.
Any dev saying it's a placebo effect needs to hold up data to prove the assertion, otherwise, the dev is just speculating. Being an Android dev can mean a variety of things, so the title doesn't grant authority.
Any dev claiming random data seeding shouldn't have an effect, should contact the APK writer and ask to see the trace logs, i.e. duplicate the experiment and verify the results. Otherwise, see above.
Everyone else, download it. Enjoy a faster UI experience. I confirm it works, which is at least as good as any dev who hasn't tested it.
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7April said:
Any dev saying it's a placebo effect needs to hold up data to prove the assertion, otherwise, the dev is just speculating. Being an Android dev can mean a variety of things, so the title doesn't grant authority.
Any dev claiming random data seeding shouldn't have an effect, should contact the APK writer and ask to see the trace logs, i.e. duplicate the experiment and verify the results. Otherwise, see above.
Everyone else, download it. Enjoy a faster UI experience. I confirm it works, which is at least as good as any dev who hasn't tested it.
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Have *you* checked logs to see what's happening as you claim you can see a performance hike.
I tried it on 3 devices earlier, all did exactly what I suspected. Pushed the cpu time up quite a bit, but that's what this does. It's forcing an io which causes the cpu to ramp, so of course it feels more responsive, it's starting from a higher cpu clock and less time in the lower click rates.
One of my services it caused serious slow down, die to pegging the cpu as it didn't play nicely with the particular aml quadcore governor.
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fards said:
Have *you* checked logs to see what's happening as you claim you can see a performance hike.
I tried it on 3 devices earlier, all did exactly what I suspected. Pushed the cpu time up quite a bit, but that's what this does. It's forcing an io which causes the cpu to ramp, so of course it feels more responsive, it's starting from a higher cpu clock and less time in the lower click rates.
One of my services it caused serious slow down, die to pegging the cpu as it didn't play nicely with the particular aml quadcore governor.
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Couldn't agree more with your comments, I also tested this on a variety of devices and got exactly the same results, on one of my devices I was loosing 5% battery per hour!

seeder is working on all devices?

xda just had an apology article for featuring this lol

[ROM][MB1][5/28] ZERO v1.2

Completely developed on the device for the device. Not one computer was used.
IF YOUR BATTERY LIFE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO YOU IN THE WORLD THIS MAY NOT BE FOR YOU!
Battery life hasn't been thoroughly tested and not expected to be great.
Welcome to ROM ZERO.
ZERO was developed for one purpose. SPEED! You will open apps, download, install apps, and browse the web faster than before. This rom is based on USABILITY SPEED and may not show in benchmarks. It's two totally different things. Battery life is not expected to be great but hasn't been tested so please Don't complain about your battery life. I would like some feedback on the battery life but as I said, don't expect much.
This is a stock rom lightly debloated with a few nice tweaks. I have added my yamato performance edition tweaks and some scripting in the frame buffer to help speed things up. This will give you higher frame rates in games and overall speed. Lean kernel is preloaded and completely over clocked including the GPU out of the box. There is no need to lkconfig. The GPU governor is also automatically set to performance mode. There are alot of adjustments made to this rom for speed. It's FAST.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE?
De-odexed system with ODEXED apps.
Lightly debloated.
Black & white toggles.
Black status bar.
4.2 keyboard.
Menu to kill.
Holo & stock TW launchers.
Adjusted Bluetooth for quicker connections
Complete rewrite of the build.prop and included all of my HWUI settings for speed and a better visual experience.
Frame buffer speed adjustments.
Full HW rendering.
GPU over-clocked.
SPECIAL THANKS TO-
scrosler Scottsroms
zepplinrocks
thisiskinacrap
imoseyon
andybones
Gnufabio
Chainfire
If I missed you let me know!
READ CAREFULLY!!!!
I am NOT responsible for you device. Flash this rom at your own risk!
*ISSUES*
Setup Wizard not loading properly. Hit home button to bypass.
INSTRUCTIONS...
1. Flash in recovery
2. Let the rom settle after it boots. Don't touch your phone for a couple of minutes.
3. Spend your 15 minutes and set your settings and whatever else you usually do after you flash your rom. THEN REBOOT. Things will get even better.
4. Enjoy.
Download....
ZERO v1.2 MB1 618mb
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22979706399752470
MIRROR
http://d-h.st/GVo

CHANGE LOG.
Version 1.2
- Fixed scripting.

Mine again

Link is up!

First!...yes..I finally did it..lol
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Congrats, you win the internet.
Awesome to see more roms. Thanks!
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bobAbooE said:
Congrats, you win the internet.
Awesome to see more roms. Thanks!
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Yes I have always wanted my very own Internet. .lol

Installed this a few hours ago, been playing with it nonstop since then. I love it, but the native wifi tethering does not work. Is there a workaround for this that I'm missing? The wireless tether apps on the market don;t seem to be working, even with changing some settings. Thanks!

Hubblemuffin said:
Installed this a few hours ago, been playing with it nonstop since then. I love it, but the native wifi tethering does not work. Is there a workaround for this that I'm missing? The wireless tether apps on the market don;t seem to be working, even with changing some settings. Thanks!
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I'm going to guess I got a bit carried away with de-bloating. I will check it out. It's something I just never used but I will make it work. Sorry bout that!

Ok I just checked out native tethering but couldn't find any problems. What kind of issue are you having with it?

Not having any luck downloading through the link in the op. Keep getting a downloading error. Is the file hosted anywhere else by chance?? Thanks!
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I just posted a dropbox link in the op. See if that works better for you. The original link is working fine for me though.

I can start the hotspot from the status bar on top, but when I connect to my phone, get either a Limited Connectivity error or no connection at all. I can take some screenshots when I get home if that would help, maybe the app has an error log that I can find.

Just flashed, had no issues. Everything seems nice and smooth. Its also visually very smooth. Coming from clean ROM I would say as far as "speed" at least opening apps and such Clean ROM is faster, but Zero is very fluid. No issues with lag. I havent tested much else. So far so good though. Nice work and thanks! Its been kind of quiet on the forums since the S4 came out.

Unfortunately I found an issue this morning with some of the scripts loading. This rom is currently not running as I intended it as far as speed. The update tonight will be a huge difference in performance! Sorry about the bug.

Version 1.2 released.
Fixed scripting.
This will be a noticeable improvement!
Thanks for your patience.
I would love to know what battery life you guys get with this.

Downloading now. I have a gorilla gadgets battery 4500mah idk if that'll be much help tho.
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fawkiPhone said:
Downloading now. I have a gorilla gadgets battery 4500mah idk if that'll be much help tho.
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Crap thats a big battery. How much time do you usually get out of that?

Nice! Could you possibly remove Backup Assistant from settings? Always bothers me.
EDIT: Also, it's not allowing the setup wizard to complete. This is the only way to get my apps to auto-restore so could you look into it?

syoungblood95 said:
Nice! Could you possibly remove Backup Assistant from settings? Always bothers me.
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Well it's obviously easy enough to remove the app itself but removing the tab from the settings menu isn't something I have ever dove into yet. For me it's a bit complicated and over my head right now. I'm going to have to read up on setting tabs and learn a bit more about it. Probably in version 5.0 lol.
Edit @Your edit..
Darn another flaw! Ugghhh! Yes I will.

[Q] Having some heating issues. need some suggestions.

Hello I am having heating issues. I'm not sure if this is normal or not and would like to know if there is anything I can do to reduce the heating issue?
I rooted my phone about 3 months ago. I installed the Liquid Smooth Rom. However I re-flashed TW because of some feature that I missed.
I have these apps on my phone: Rom Toolbox; Titanium Backup; EZ-Unlock; Root Checker Basic; Rom Management; Root Explorer; SD Booster; Trickster Mod & Supersu.
I've tried underclocking the phone by lowering the CPU max in both Trickster Mod and Rom Toolbox but both seem to revert back to the highest CPU settings.
My issue is that when I run my tethering app (pdanet/foxfi) my phone gets really hot and my battery drains like crazy.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I mean, I have those apps I listed above but really don't know how to set them up correctly to control my phone efficiently.
Thank you for any help you can offer.

prolonged tethering is going to stress the battery. Plus, pdanet and foxfi are not too reliable or efficient (my experience)
if you're on TW, I'd do a search for WifiTether_TrevE_Mod. I think it may be on google playstore as well.

epagib said:
prolonged tethering is going to stress the battery. Plus, pdanet and foxfi are not too reliable or efficient (my experience)
if you're on TW, I'd do a search for WifiTether_TrevE_Mod. I think it may be on google playstore as well.
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Ok, thanks so much!
I'll look it up. I take it that it is more reliable and easier on the battery?
EDIT: I'm sorry, but I am a bit of a newb here. I did a search and came across this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988735
I'm sure this is the one that you were referring to. However I can't seem to find a download link. (Maybe I'm blind or just don't understand). I also did a search on the play store and came up empty. Can you point me in the right direction please.

Sithlyone said:
Ok, thanks so much!
I'll look it up. I take it that it is more reliable and easier on the battery?
EDIT: I'm sorry, but I am a bit of a newb here. I did a search and came across this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988735
I'm sure this is the one that you were referring to. However I can't seem to find a download link. (Maybe I'm blind or just don't understand). I also did a search on the play store and came up empty. Can you point me in the right direction please.
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Yes, wifitether by TrevE is excellent. If you follow his work...that guy is a programming genius.
I have copy, can update but wont be till after work tonight (midnight)

epagib said:
Yes, wifitether by TrevE is excellent. If you follow his work...that guy is a programming genius.
I have copy, can update but wont be till after work tonight (midnight)
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Ok, great.
Also, is there a optimization thread somewhere? I would like to know how to optimize my phone for top battery efficiency while not giving up to much on the usability side. I know about screen brightness and keeping my sync off and all of the basic things. I would like to know how to set up my system and such. I've froze many of the bloatware apps using TiBu but this hasn't resulted in the marked improvement I was hoping for. Maybe I didn't freeze the right ones.

One recommendation. Don't run 2 CPU management apps at once. Bad **** happens. Gerry rid of rom toolbox and keep trickster
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