PSA: Poco is NOT unbrickable due to EDL mode being protected - Xiaomi Poco F1 Guides, News, & Discussion

Before I got started on hacking the Poco (e.g. custom splash graphics, maybe repartition for dualboot, who knows what else) I wanted to port-over my Low-level Backup/Restore kit from Mi A1.
To my disappointment I have discovered that the EDL mode on the Poco is protected by some proprietary Xiaomi authorization.
This is the same problem encountered as those many who have bricked over anti-rollback protection in other devices - they cannot get authorization.
So, in summary - EDL flashing is not possible as Xiaomi have locked it to authorized machines only. Avoid messing around with non-standard-Android partitions at all costs.

CosmicDan said:
Before I got started on hacking the Poco (e.g. custom splash graphics, maybe repartition for dualboot, who knows what else) I wanted to port-over my Low-level Backup/Restore kit from Mi A1.
To my disappointment I have discovered that the EDL mode on the Poco is protected by some proprietary Xiaomi authorization.
This is the same problem encountered as those many who have bricked over anti-rollback protection in other devices - they cannot get authorization.
So, in summary - EDL flashing is not possible as Xiaomi have locked it to authorized machines only. Avoid messing around with non-standard-Android partitions at all costs.
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Great to know this early...thaks for discovering this, so we can avoid unwanted bricked our devices..thanks sir

Thanks, sar.

Dan thanks for important info.
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Damn it!
Btw Thanks for the information

I guess we can bring this up to Jai Mani since he insists that this phone would be custom development friendly.
Off-topic: Glad to see you here since I also owned Mi A1 and saw your great work in that device

As the whyred disaster of anti roll-back happened, they need the authenticated account to unbrick from edl brick with requesting through miui forum thread. What about poco???

whrynox said:
I guess we can bring this up to Jai Mani since he insists that this phone would be custom development friendly.
Off-topic: Glad to see you here since I also owned Mi A1 and saw your great work in that device
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a good idea
https://twitter.com/jaimani/status/1037982863579381760
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reading comments it seems some people already lost interest in xiaomi devices due to ARP.

If anyone has twitter, should write to him. i think this could be solved. If he wants some real development, this should be disabled.

https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-anti-rollback-protection-brick-phone/
Consider reading this article

Jaskirat singh said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-anti-rollback-protection-brick-phone/
Consider reading this article
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thanks, I'm interested why it's not disabled at bootloader unlock, otherwise Xiaomi will become pointless for developers.
I like my new pocophone but that's rather not developer-friendly.
I decided between the Nokia 7 Plus and this and now I hope it was the right move.

Haha yes

CosmicDan said:
Before I got started on hacking the Poco (e.g. custom splash graphics, maybe repartition for dualboot, who knows what else) I wanted to port-over my Low-level Backup/Restore kit from Mi A1.
To my disappointment I have discovered that the EDL mode on the Poco is protected by some proprietary Xiaomi authorization.
This is the same problem encountered as those many who have bricked over anti-rollback protection in other devices - they cannot get authorization.
So, in summary - EDL flashing is not possible as Xiaomi have locked it to authorized machines only. Avoid messing around with non-standard-Android partitions at all costs.
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That's sad.
@jaimani if you guys are serious about development friendliness then you should give full freedom for at-least POCO. Don't put barriers otherwise your wish to fill development threads on XDA won't come true.
https://twitter.com/jaimani/status/1037982863579381760
Remember initially OnePlus Supported development every possible way to get where they are now.
PS: that's Product head of POCO's official account on XDA & Twitter.

jineshpatel30 said:
That's sad.
@jaimani if you guys are serious about development friendliness then you should give full freedom for at-least POCO. Don't put barriers otherwise your wish to fill development threads on XDA won't come true.
https://twitter.com/jaimani/status/1037982863579381760
Remember initially OnePlus Supported development every possible way to get where they are now.
PS: that's Procut head of POCO's official account on XDA & Twitter.
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The idea of this protection is security, it's a good feature in principle but poorly implemented. It should be possible for us as verified Mi account holder for this device to automatically have authorization - much like we log-in to our device account when unlocking the bootloader (which only took 5 minutes after setting up the device for me - not even 3 days).
It could be possible that this "authorization" for EDL mode is actually *not* in Xiaomi's power, but the ODM (the actual manufacturer of the phone; Xiaomi don't own any factories AFAIK) or even the OEM themselves (Qualcomm) but I doubt it, since we have to login with a Mi account to check for authorization.

CosmicDan said:
The idea of this protection is security, it's a good feature in principle but poorly implemented. It should be possible for us as verified Mi account holder for this device to automatically have authorization - much like we log-in to our device account when unlocking the bootloader (which only took 5 minutes after setting up the device for me - not even 3 days).
It could be possible that this "authorization" for EDL mode is actually *not* in Xiaomi's power, but the ODM (the actual manufacturer of the phone; Xiaomi don't own any factories AFAIK) or even the OEM themselves (Qualcomm) but I doubt it, since we have to login with a Mi account to check for authorization.
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Not sure if this is gonna help you but I'll post anyway.
Someone from reddit was able to get authorization: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9g4dlv/for_those_in_need_of_a_authorized_edl_miflash/

chickentuna said:
Not sure if this is gonna help you but I'll post anyway.
Someone from reddit was able to get authorization: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9g4dlv/for_those_in_need_of_a_authorized_edl_miflash/
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Seen lots of people claim that. In every case the account only provides it once, then it loses authorisation.

is EDL mode protection part of the Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback protection?

engr.chachi said:
is EDL mode protection part of the Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback protection?
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No. There is no ARB in Pocophone.
But it is part of general security (stops people changing ROM's without unlocking bootloader or something).

CosmicDan said:
No. There is no ARP in Pocophone.
But it is part of general security (stops people changing ROM's without unlocking bootloader or something).
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so how come it is unbrickable if bootloader is unlocked?

engr.chachi said:
so how come it is unbrickable if bootloader is unlocked?
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Who said it's unbrickable? It's not. This thread is saying it's NOT unbrickable, because we're locked out of EDL mode.
ARB is a completely different thing. But Xiaomi phones with ARB also have locked EDL mode. So far only Mi A1 (and I think the A2's) are the only Xiaomi devices without EDL protection. It's there to block cross-flashing from reseller's, because it doesn't require unlocked bootloader to access EDL mode at all.
Read that recent XDA article about it, it covers all this stuff (I wouldn't be surprised if this thread was one of the inspirations for that article).

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STRAIGHT FACTS about the bootloader unlock from moto

Please sticky this if you want so people actually understand.
So, Go drink a beer and celebrate (but not by posting stupid stuff in the forum) Motorola has finally released their Bootloader unlock tool.
This is very similar to what HTC did a while back. Basically you get a code from your phone, submit it to moto, they void your warranty, they give you an unlock code, you unlock your bootloader.
Now, the bad news: Currently it only supports the new photon Q
Why you say, well I can actually answer that for you: In order to get the needed info from your phone you must run oem get_unlock_data in fastboot. This IS NOT supported on the bootloader of any previous phones, which means it will not work.
Now, Motorola has said they will be adding more devices soon, which seems to me to imply that they mean older devices, not just new ones as they come out.
HTC had the same issue. They fixed it by releasing an update to the phones that just flashed a new bootloader that allowed the oem stuff.
So bottom line is we are not yet supported and may never get an unlock, but hopefully moto will enable us to unlock our phones soon.
Just the fact that they have given us this tool in the first place is a huge leap.
Link to the tool: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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Wishful thinking
Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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Amen to that!
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Seeing as how I thought moto was going to unlock the bl's last year,I won't be holding my breath
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Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
mtnlion said:
Seeing as how I thought moto was going to unlock the bl's last year,I won't be holding my breath
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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Asked support...
I sent customer support a short message asking when and if the Atrix 2 would be supported with that tool. This is the reply:
Dear [REDACTED],
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. We have reviewed your e-mail and we are ready to help.
Regarding your concern, Motorola's primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Atrix 2 and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader.
The technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices for developers via MOTODEV at
[REDACTED because links].
For the link that you have provided, it only supports the Motorola Photon Q and additional devices launching in the future. Each device that ships with an unlockable bootloader requires not only internal development work but also agreements and testing with carriers; thus, the option of having an unlockable bootloader will require consideration on a case-by-case basis for each device and each region.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at [REDACTED because links]
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
[REDACTED, although they probably don't use their real names...]
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This is open to interpretation, but it doesn't seem like the Atrix 2 is on their agenda.
Recombobulator said:
I sent customer support a short message asking when and if the Atrix 2 would be supported with that tool. This is the reply:
This is open to interpretation, but it doesn't seem like the Atrix 2 is on their agenda.
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that is the same thing they always send regarding bootloaders, never changes
Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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actually a moto support person sort of said so. When I asked when they would put in the ability to run oem fastboot commands they said it was being added to a future upgrade. I asked if that meant the ICS OTA and they said "they cannot share that information"
lkrasner said:
actually a moto support person sort of said so. When I asked when they would put in the ability to run oem fastboot commands they said it was being added to a future upgrade. I asked if that meant the ICS OTA and they said "they cannot share that information"
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Could this possibly explain the ns bootloader in the leak?
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Scottyfer said:
Could this possibly explain the ns bootloader in the leak?
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sort of, but not really, that one is unlocked, not just capable of having the commands run
lkrasner said:
sort of, but not really, that one is unlocked, not just capable of having the commands run
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Oh. I thought the ns was just capable of being unlocked not pre unlocked.
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Tweet from Motorola says unlocking older models "not currently in the plan"
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Twee...lder-models-not-currently-in-the-plan_id33589
techsavvy.jaz said:
Tweet from Motorola says unlocking older models "not currently in the plan"
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Twee...lder-models-not-currently-in-the-plan_id33589
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Oh that game plan may make me buy a new phone,however it wont be motorola. If they unlock this one I MIGHT buy another moto but it's doubtful. Too much of that bridge has been burned.
mtnlion said:
Oh that game plan may make me buy a new phone,however it wont be motorola. If they unlock this one I MIGHT buy another moto but it's doubtful. Too much of that bridge has been burned.
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So, can someone please explain the reason why this thread was closed, and then re-opened!? And what was all that talk about security issues, sending data to chinese servers, etc.!?
Rooting our device without a unlocked bootloader is pointless
The kernel implements write protection that prevents you from making any changes to the system partition
You're better off unlocking your bootloader and taking the slightly longer but right route to root your device.
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estugarda said:
So, can someone please explain the reason why this thread was closed, and then re-opened!? And what was all that talk about security issues, sending data to chinese servers, etc.!?
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I agree. Someone at XDA closed the thread, and they had a reason. And someone at XDA reopened it. Why?
What gives with this Kingo software? It's a slick site. It's free. It's simple. It roots different phones. And it does not appear to be sensitive to OTA updates. If the DLVR root required an exploit to work, and ATT issues an OTA update that closed the exploit but the Kingo root just breezes right by it all of it, what gives.
these work on one x + ?
just downloaded this software but googled it first before using and this has been said to have a lot of flags for this software.it is said to send imei number to chinese servers as well as other info and a few other things so until i know this is ok to use its a no go and would advice caution to anyone wanting to use this.
Hi guys,someone with Samsung Galaxy s 3 LTE has root with this software?I am from Spain.
Another thing, this will change the status of Knox?Thank´s!
CAUTION : DO NOT USE. The app requires full internet connection as you can test. It sends data about your phone to servers in China (IMEIs and Serial Numbers). It was said to be removed in version 2.0 but do not trust it.
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Bllooi said:
CAUTION : DO NOT USE. The app requires full internet connection as you can test. It sends data about your phone to servers in China (IMEIs and Serial Numbers). It was said to be removed in version 2.0 but do not trust it.´/QUOTE]
Other Senior Member DeadlySin9 said
"It's good, this thread was closed on those suspicions but they started communicating with xda and so it was reopened."
in other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49739639
What they can do with mi IMEI and serial number, clone the phone in China?
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trade said:
Bllooi said:
CAUTION : DO NOT USE. The app requires full internet connection as you can test. It sends data about your phone to servers in China (IMEIs and Serial Numbers). It was said to be removed in version 2.0 but do not trust it.´/QUOTE]
Other Senior Member DeadlySin9 said
"It's good, this thread was closed on those suspicions but they started communicating with xda and so it was reopened."
in other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49739639
What they can do with mi IMEI and serial number, clone the phone in China?
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No, its kinda the same reason we just don't randomly post our IMEIs here on xda or our serial numbers. Why do you think people cover their imeis when they do fastboot getvar all?.... They can spoof your IMEI and do illegal activity. Your imei is like your home address because yes they can clone the phone. Dude I'd rather just not take the risk of getting in trouble with the cops and not share your imei
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Bllooi said:
trade said:
No, its kinda the same reason we just don't randomly post our IMEIs here on xda or our serial numbers. Why do you think people cover their imeis when they do fastboot getvar all?.... They can spoof your IMEI and do illegal activity. Your imei is like your home address because yes they can clone the phone. Dude I'd rather just not take the risk of getting in trouble with the cops and not share your imei
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The IMEI number is basically a unique serial number to the phone. It's like an ethernet MAC address. It's supposed to be unique. If someone got ahold of yours, the worst they could do is pretend to be your phone's serial number. They couldn't access your account, they couldn't use your data, or make phone calls as if they were you. All of the account information is on the SIM. There are a few reasons why someone might want to spoof an IMEI - despite the fact that it's illegal - such as to avoid using a phone with a stolen IMEI, or to pretend that one phone is another (such as making an iPhone look like it's a Nokia to avoid specific iPhone charges/plans).
having said this I have used this as a ton of other users... no cops been knocking at my door yet.. just saying...:cyclops:
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bkeaver said:
Bllooi said:
The IMEI number is basically a unique serial number to the phone. It's like an ethernet MAC address. It's supposed to be unique. If someone got ahold of yours, the worst they could do is pretend to be your phone's serial number. They couldn't access your account, they couldn't use your data, or make phone calls as if they were you. All of the account information is on the SIM. There are a few reasons why someone might want to spoof an IMEI - despite the fact that it's illegal - such as to avoid using a phone with a stolen IMEI, or to pretend that one phone is another (such as making an iPhone look like it's a Nokia to avoid specific iPhone charges/plans).
having said this I have used this as a ton of other users... no cops been knocking at my door yet.. just saying...:cyclops:
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Then perhaps we should all post our IMEIs online. Yes spoofing is illegal but I wouldn't think they would care when they are going to use the IMEI for illegal activity. Things are illegal for a reason. Because it can harm other people.
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So is this software ok to use now and does it work clarification on this would be nice .
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I used it on my note 3 and nothing happened. And didn't see any cops at my door. People just keep making up things. I don't know where this sending data to China come from. They can't do anything with that number. Cops are not that stupid. LOL
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K-Alzwayed said:
I used it on my note 3 and nothing happened. And didn't see any cops at my door. People just keep making up things. I don't know where this sending data to China come from. They can't do anything with that number. Cops are not that stupid. LOL
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Bllooi said:
CAUTION : DO NOT USE. The app requires full internet connection as you can test. It sends data about your phone to servers in China (IMEIs and Serial Numbers). It was said to be removed in version 2.0 but do not trust it.
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Hi all,
Come on you all, let's face it!
I think data possibly (as nothing is proven, only rumors) going to China is about as bad as leaving it on USA servers and NSA saving and mining it all for their own purposes of which we know nothing about either.
I happily used Kingo on quite some phones now, all to my satisfaction :victory:
Regards,
Dioky said:
Hi all,
Come on you all, let's face it!
I think data possibly (as nothing is proven, only rumors) going to China is about as bad as leaving it on USA servers and NSA saving and mining it all for their own purposes of which we know nothing about either.
I happily used Kingo on quite some phones now, all to my satisfaction :victory:
Regards,
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It was proven and the makers of this app were contacted and have subsequently fixed the issues XDA moderation had with it, hence why this thread is open
Regardless, using this application is somewhat pointless on the international version of the HTC One because HTC supply a bootloader unlocking tool which enables us to flash a custom recovery, from there we can install SuperSU in flashable zip format, gaining root access. We do not need the exploits contained in KingoRoot to gain root access. KingoRoot is designed for devices where the manufacturer isn't as kind as HTC and so exploits are needed to gain root access.
anyone tried htc bootloader unlocking or toot with this device ? please share if u did
afraaa said:
anyone tried htc bootloader unlocking or toot with this device ? please share if u did
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yea both unlock & root. worked just fine for me) found the normal way @HTC dev confusing and some intimidating back then
which was why i used this and why i know it work as well
seqas said:
yea both unlock & root. worked just fine for me) found the normal way @HTC dev confusing and some intimidating back then
which was why i used this and why i know it work as well
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thanks . what is your phone model ? u did unlocked it ?
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thanks . what is your phone model ? u did unlocked it ?
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you welcome htc one m7ul , yes unlocked & rooted

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Are there any plans for releasing a device with unique international ROM across all the regions Just like some other competitors ?
It will help developers to make a stable custom Rom for the device. And eventually users will benefit from it.
Is there any proper way to get the bootloader unlock code as the unlock page was taken down from the website recently.
Would honor be open to releasing a phone with stock android or android one, at least for its flagships, so as to attract lots of new customers through promise of faster and guaranteed updates?
Will you ever put Wireless Charging in a Honor phone?
Will you stick to Kirin processors for High End phones or are you considering Qualcomm processors too e.g. Snapdragon 845?
what would be the improvements you could bring to Honor 11?
Why is included notification LED so small? It's basically like phone doesn't have notification LED. Also Wi-Fi range it's very bad compared to my previous phone, status bar icons and text are extremely small, why not let us customize them? Why did you take down bootloader unlock page, you really think people will believe story about about technical issues? Why is AI just oversaturating photos? Why your international phone has camera suitable only for Asian girls who want smooth baby white skin with heavy post processing even with beautify completely disabled, you know people outside China prefer real skin photos right?
Can you talk about why you removed bootloader unlock and when/if it's coming back? Without bootloader unlock, no development is possible
Bootloader
Why did Huawei decided to lock the bootloader and stop supporting developers? After a period of seemingly supporting XDA, now the company wants to revert it all back to when it was not as popular. Can we really trust a company whose promise last for only 3 months?
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Can you talk about why you removed bootloader unlock and when/if it's coming back? Without bootloader unlock, no development is possible
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Glad they announced it early before I was about to make a plunge to Honor 10. What is amusing is that they are so excited to collaborate with end users on a Development oriented portal and curtailing the freedom as a backdoor policy.
Oh yeah, I definitely have more than a question for the Honor representative, which I'm pretty sure won't be featured, but anyway.
Why do you like to screw people (especially enthusiasts like here on XDA)?
You push funds into this partnership with XDA, push funds into "Honor opensource program", then kill all development by preventing users to unlock their bootloaders, the first step necessary to begin development...
Why is your software so messy that bricking a device is so easy when attempting to flash custom ROMs?
I myself accidentally bricked a Huawei trying to flash custom ROMs about a year and a half ago. Attempting to restore the device is a real pain, maybe the real "danger" of flashing custom ROMs as you say isn't the custom ROM itself, but your horrible implementation that leads to devices sent to warranty repairs.
What do you gain by backstabbing this community?
I see you even bothered to make an account and "talk to us". You invested so much in this community and now you silently backstab us. Do you think by locking your devices you will gain security and more users? You will actually lose users, and this is android folks, people will always find a way to mess up with your stuff.
Why did you limit the "Honor open source program" only to this year's devices?
Yeah, I'm a Honor 9 customer, and I would've liked if this incentive was applied to the last year's device. It seems logical to me to support the last year's device, just saying.
Why is the "Honor open source program" such a fraud?
To quote a former forum user, this explains what this miraculous program really is.
I must say I quite disappointed in the "Honor Open Source Program". To a developer, a program with this name, coming from a phone manufacturer, implies that this will be a program in which Honor will release the source code of the phone to developers in the program. However, that seems not to be the case. Now, I am forced to conclude that the a-fore mentioned program is just a means to give away free phones and hope that developers will be so grateful for a free phone, that they will help generate a loud noise that will boost the sales of the Honor View 10. This is not a bad thing. A free phone is nice but if I had known we wouldn't see anymore source that is normally given from Huawei/Honor, I would not have signed up.
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I am more than 100% sure that you won't even bother to answer these questions, but I made this post more to show you that people here on XDA are not sheep, and we do have a brain, and we don't take bs for granted. It's a shame, the hardware is good, the software is decent(ish), but the people behind all of this aren't that cool. Just my 2 cents buddies.
Yes, I own a Honor 9, I'm satisfied with the purchase, but I'm definitely not satisfied with this kind of behavior.
Double Chin Bigot said:
Oh yeah, I definitely have a question for the Honor representative, which I'm pretty sure won't be featured, but anyway.
Why do you like to screw people (especially enthusiasts like here on XDA)?
You push funds into this partnership with XDA, push funds into "Honor opensource program", then kill all development with preventing users to unlock their bootloaders, the first step necessary to begin development...
Why is your software so messy that bricking a device is so easy when attempting to flash custom ROMs?
I myself accidentally bricked a Huawei trying to flash custom ROMs about a year and a half ago. Attempting to restore the device is a real pain, maybe the real "danger" of flashing custom ROMs as you say isn't the custom ROM itself, but your horrible implementation that leads to devices sent to warranty repairs.
What do you gain by backstabbing this community?
I see you even bothered to make an account and "talk to us". You invested so much in this community and now you silently backstab us. Do you think by locking your devices you will gain security and more users? You will actually lose users, and this is android folks, people will always find a way to mess up with your stuff.
Why did you limit the "Honor open source program" only to this year's devices?
Yeah, I'm a Honor 9 customer, and I would've liked if this incentive was applied to the last year's device. It seems logical to me to support the last year's device, just saying.
Why is the "Honor open source program" such a fraud?
To quote a former forum user, this explains what this miraculous program really is.
I am more than 100% sure that you won't even bother to answer this questions, but I made this post more to show you that people here on XDA are not sheep, and we do have a brain, and we don't take bs for granted. It's a shame, the hardware is good, the software is decent(ish), but the people behind all of this aren't that cool. Just my 2 cents buddies.
Yes, I own a Honor 9, I'm satisfied with the purchase, but I'm definitely not satisfied with this kind of behavior.
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I was going to buy an Honor 10 since I believe they have great support for developers. I had second thoughts at the last moment and now seeing the announcement that they made, I am glad I didn't buy it. Their hardware has never had any chance to compete with the likes of Samsung or Apple. The only thing making them seem attractive was developer support, but that too is seemingly dead. Never gonna recommend a Huawei device to anyone ever again.
Any Update On Honor 9i Oreo Update Please ? Waiting for so long..Btw..Love Honor Phones..?
I have a bkl l09 still on November 2017 security patches.
Bring in America how am I able to update?
I love this phone as it really is a well made phone.
But will they be lost due to out of date firmware?
When will Honor develop service centre chain like Xiaomi did??, with the best service you can grab more market in India
Honor IR Blaster
There is IR Blaster in Honor Phones. It's very useful. So I Wanted to know how IR Blaster is preserved and not removed like the other manufacturers.
First of all I don't want to "win a free gift"
I would love to know why you do such hypocritical moves. It amazes me how suddenly from "Open to devs" you became "You can't unlock your bl".
It's a shame that you behaved in such manner, considering a lot of people really trusted in you, especially Chris that really looked forward into this project.

Question Samsung Hacked and bootloader source code stolen.

Has anyone gone and downloaded the files?
My guess is this hack could potentially open the door to full admin root access on Sam3devices again.
It also probably compromises the security of the devices for the short term.
Hackers leak 190GB of alleged Samsung data, source code
The Lapsus$ data extortion group leaked today a huge collection of confidential data they claim to be from Samsung Electronics, the South Korean giant consumer electronics company.
www.bleepingcomputer.com
If true... Samsung, you morons
blackhawk said:
If true... Samsung, you morons
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It's true. There are screen shots of the source code already floating around. Including in that article.
The files are also already mirrored over 400 times, so I'm assuming to bootloader source code is in the wild.
Lol, I never use Knox, Bixby, device locks, Samsung cloud, encryption and firewall all Samsung services in general... in part because I never trusted them
This will leave a stain.
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Ruh roh.
Where can we download the torrent file?
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Where can we download the torrent file?
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Mam, Sir! Please allow me to just refer you to my post here:
Does the Samsung leak (Bootloader, Knox etc.) give us undetectable root?
Does the current Samsung source code leak give us (SOON TM) an easy root and undetectable root. Where we can still use EVERYTHING as if not rooted? (fingerprint, samsung health etc) From what I've seen the leak also includes all master keys etc.
forum.xda-developers.com
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this is great news
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Mam, Sir! Please allow me to just refer you to my post here:
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I assume you have linked not the correct post.
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I assume you have linked not the correct post.
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You are correct. This is the post my colleague, and Senior Moderator meant to link, and would greatly appreciate it if you would heed his advice.
Thank you.
-Regards: Badger50 FSM
Propagating the dissemination of Samsung's source code is a danger to all Samsung users in spite of any potential benefits. Eventually it will lead to changes that will probably be a rooting enthusiast nightmare as if it's not already bad enough. It will also have repercussions on others brands that use Qualcomm chipsets.
The cat's out of the bag, its rabid... and looking for blood.
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Propagating the dissemination of Samsung's source code is a danger to all Samsung users in spite of any potential benefits. Eventually it will lead to changes that will probably be a rooting enthusiast nightmare as if it's not already bad enough. It will also have repercussions on others brands that use Qualcomm chipsets.
The cat's out of the bag, its rabid... and looking for blood.
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According to history, the dissemination of knowledge has had a generally good effect in the long run.
I sure hope we can get our carrier (verizon) bootloaders unlocked soon. that we be great.
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What would have happened if Samsung's source code would be open from the beginning? In my opinion the Samsung ecosystem would be a much more diverse and freer. Yes, this would require a completely different economic model. This would definitely be better than a model based on spying, exploiting and manipulating their users what they are doing now.
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What would have happened if Samsung's source code would be open from the beginning? In my opinion the Samsung ecosystem would be a much more diverse and freer. Yes, this would require a completely different economic model. This would definitely be better than a model based on spying, exploiting and manipulating their users what they are doing now.
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It's outright theft. There's no justification for this cyber crime. A criminal disservice to all Samsung and Qualcomm users.
blackhawk said:
Propagating the dissemination of Samsung's source code is a danger to all Samsung users in spite of any potential benefits. Eventually it will lead to changes that will probably be a rooting enthusiast nightmare as if it's not already bad enough. It will also have repercussions on others brands that use Qualcomm chipsets.
The cat's out of the bag, its rabid... and looking for blood.
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I'm just waiting for firehose leaks
because like, EDL mode flashing will just complete the Samsung experience for me
exploiting a bootloader wouldnt be bad too
NullCode said:
I'm just waiting for firehose leaks
because like, EDL mode flashing will just complete the Samsung experience for me
exploiting a bootloader wouldnt be bad too
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Some real nasty rootkits could be one of the results of this.
I'm intensively displeased with Samsung's lackadaisical security.
Let's see how it's stocks fair on Monday...
blackhawk said:
Some real nasty rootkits could be one of the results of this.
I'm intensively displeased with Samsung's lackadaisical security.
Let's see how it's stocks fair on Monday...
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>some real nasty rootkits could be one of the results of this.
Rootkits are getting rarer on PCs too. Androids? pfft
>Let's see how it's stocks fair on Monday...
truth
As "smart" a comment that is, doubt Devs be brazen enough to use lifted code to unlock devices.
Samsung and infosec likely casing these threads for exploits anyway so good luck with that.
I remember when Samsung was developing Tizen as an OS alternative to Android.
The story at the time was that the code was just awful, buggy, and ridiculously insecure.
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Question Reddit ask page reposting - How to install Google Services on the Chinese version of a Xiaomi 12S Ultra, without losing your warranty and legitimacy

Just reposting my question about how to get some Xiaomi global version features on the Chinese one, for my Xiaomi 12S Ultra.​
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/ya0qjl
Maybe if it gets bigger, this thread can be moved to an android general discussion...
P.S.: Feel free to answer where you feel more comfortable, here or there! Personally, I suggest here...
Supersity said:
Just reposting my question about how to get some Xiaomi global version features on the Chinese one, for my Xiaomi 12S Ultra.​
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Installing google services.
You will find on the Chinese store all or part of the apps necessary for google services, the rest to download elsewhere.
Regarding the warranty, if you live in a country where this phone is not officially sold by Xiaomi, Xiaomi will refuse the warranty.
Unlocking the bootloader or rooting does not pose a problem for the warranty.
Normally if you bricked your phone with a rom other than a Xiaomi like AOSP or Xiaomi Eu rom, Xiaomi refuses the warranty but I saw on some posts some guys who had an AOSP and that didn't cause any problem.
Anyway, unless you live in China or another country where this phone is available, the only warranty is the seller's (usually limited).
Many install a Xiaomi Eu rom that has the play store certified without root.
In case of hardbrick due to the software, you can always recover your phone.
It happens especially to those who launch into it without documenting themselves beforehand.
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Normally if you bricked your phone with a rom other than a Xiaomi like AOSP or Xiaomi Eu rom, Xiaomi refuses the warranty but I saw on some posts some guys who had an AOSP and that didn't cause any problem.
Anyway, unless you live in China or another country where this phone is available, the only warranty is the seller's (usually limited).
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Man, Where I live, in Brazil, There's Xiaomi official selling, So I hold the manufacturer's warranty, and if you buy it indirectly from an authorized third-party store (How is it there where you live, in the US? Does there have resale and an authorized list from the manufacturer?), and can beyond have Xiaomi warranty, get the seller one too (but generally it doesn't count because seller's warranty generally last shorter)!
But once, our warranty will end, so then I point here a secondary question, which unofficial ROM is better, the Chinese or Global?
I heard that all the unofficial ROMs are based on the Chinese one, and the Global, on the EEA ROM (just a doubt, is EU ROM directly based on Chinese, or on another intermediary one?), and agreeing with that, others Chinese-based ROMs updating dependency on Xiaomi ones turns up.
What gets me to the conclusion that having the Chinese ROM someway is the best option, since besides it's official and has their support, it's the most optimized ROM according to many comments I saw about it, and I heard it has some unique features (which I didn't see yet but I don't doubt so much) as well as Global version (official). We could talk about the phone language too, but it doesn't seem to be an issue for me, given that Chinese ROM supports English so I don't have difficulty with this interface reading.
At last, actually, is MIUI OS open-source, right? Just to confirm...
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Also consider the bands used in your country.
US example.
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Bro, I'm from Brazil, could you share this site link? I struggled a little bit to find a good one, each site says a different thing...
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Man, Where I live, in Brazil, There's Xiaomi official selling, So I hold the manufacturer's warranty, and if you buy it indirectly from an authorized third-party store (How is it there where you live, in the US? Does there have resale and an authorized list from the manufacturer?), and can beyond have Xiaomi warranty, get the seller one too (but generally it doesn't count because seller's warranty generally last shorter)!
But once, our warranty will end, so then I point here a secondary question, which unofficial ROM is better, the Chinese or Global?
I heard that all the unofficial ROMs are based on the Chinese one, and the Global, on the EEA ROM (just a doubt, is EU ROM directly based on Chinese, or on another intermediary one?), and agreeing with that, others Chinese-based ROMs updating dependency on Xiaomi ones turns up.
What gets me to the conclusion that having the Chinese ROM someway is the best option, since besides it's official and has their support, it's the most optimized ROM according to many comments I saw about it, and I heard it has some unique features (which I didn't see yet but I don't doubt so much) as well as Global version (official). We could talk about the phone language too, but it doesn't seem to be an issue for me, given that Chinese ROM supports English so I don't have difficulty with this interface reading.
At last, actually, is MIUI OS open-source, right? Just to confirm...
Bro, I'm from Brazil, could you share this site link? I struggled a little bit to find a good one, each site says a different thing...
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If Xiaomi sells this phone in Brazil, you benefit from the legal guarantee in your country.
There is no Global or other roms, only Chinese ones.
For the moment only Xiaomi Eu rom provides custom roms.
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This phone is intended only for the Chinese market, I doubt that it is sold in Brazil by Xiaomi, in any case online there is none.
https://www.mi.com/br/list/
A Chinese phone that has no equivalent on the global market will always have a Chinese base.
For example: the Poco f2 pro (global market) equivalent to the k30 pro (Chinese market) but the developers prefer to use the Chinese base than the global because it is more advanced and more updated.
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I doubt that it is sold in Brazil by Xiaomi
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Yep, there are official Xiaomi physic stores here although counted only 8...
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And pass me this info site link, please? For further needs...
Supersity said:
Yep, there are official Xiaomi physic stores here although counted only 8...
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It's not the problem that there are 1 or 100 Xiaomi official store, the problem is that the Xiaomi 12s Ultra is only intended for the Chinese market.
link you request
https://www.kimovil.com/es/donde-comprar-xiaomi-12s-ultra

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