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Hi,
My brother has some issues with his phone (Moto G 2013, not dual SIM, not 4G) in the last time. The phone is quite unstable, so I recommended him to flash custom recovery, and eventually custom ROM.
The question is which one? This is not ROM vs ROM thread. I do not wont to compare ROMs. Just aks people for they personal experience. If anyone could recommend a stable (his/her personal opinion.) ROM, or comment lolipop, should I got for Kit Kat ROM or Loli (He still hasn't received the OTA update to Lolipop.).
I have tried to research a bit and find out for my self what would be the best option for him, but the task is not so simple, and pretty time consuming. Strange how everything, from rooting to flashing seem so complicated when one looks at the forum, when one actually only has to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash recovery, and flash the ROM of personal choice (Here I need a bit help : )).
I hope the question is ok, if not... sorry in advance.

the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:

skinnyj said:
the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:
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What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!

!crazy said:
What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!
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+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -

skinnyj said:
+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -
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I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story ☺. Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended ☺. He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
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!crazy said:
I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story . Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended . He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
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hahahaha, I've been flashing Roms and kernels to see which would suit me best, and I found this amazing stock ROM with amazing battery life.
Cheers

If you want half-bleeding edge ROMs than Dirty Unicorns is quite good with a big load a custom tweaks HOWEVER, I found resource management (RAM mostly) on Dirty Unicorns was . . . less than satisfactory and battery life was average-not great. If you want an up-to-date and almost-as-many-tweaks-as-dirty-unicorns then Exodus is the way to go Rock solid, fluid and quite compatible with custom kernels.
Oh, and about kernels. I cannot recommend ZERO Byte kernel enough. Great battery life, even with slight overclock (meaning better performance) and supports underclock (battery save 2 extreme!)

If him want a stock like and rock stable try AOSP+OMS.

ROM: Stock vs Custom

Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?

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zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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I've never had any issue with any ROM and I love Samsung phones but I hate touchwiz

zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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You are right, if you have life out of your mobile phone then stock ROM is the best otherwise waste your life in never ending process of flashing and modding your phone......lolz. There will be a stage when you'll be happy that CM12.1 is half stable but then Android M will be out.

the stock ROM is much stable but it not so fast like custom, anyways you can try to use a custom for a while and decide what is the best for you

I also experienced that in costom always has a bugs... I using stock firmware together with Nova Launcher...

Stock here - 5.0.1 stable, smooth and fast. Don't see any point in changing.... And I used to be a big modder!

I tried cm 12.1 and returned to stock because it bored me. It didn't give me what I wanted. It's a bit overestimated. Rooting and flashing makes me addicted to phone. Never ending process. Always wanting more. Stick to original and enjoy.

Yes I agree with you till some point. Till now I have tried almost every rom out there for my 9505, but almost always I am coming back to stock. According to me and the current situation there are only two custom roms that are really providing stock stability and I have seen not a single bug, so they can be daily drivers. They are the current version of Danvdh's gpe rom (with the couple of the previous ones I had minor issues. At least after LP came out) and the second and the one where I have never experienced any single bug in no single version of it (LP or KK), and that is the TW rom from iB4stid (sadly he will not develop for 9505 anymore), goldeneye (and also goldenfinger in the time of KK). However goldeneye is almost same as stock so maybe thats why I like it.
The benefit that I see from using the goldeneye despite stock rom is that you can always use the latest rom relased but again stiching to the modem version of the operator that I am using my phone with (I do not have good experience with flashing separate modem packages), with that taking the best of both worlds. In this situation you have the modem that works best with your carrier and the latest base from samsung that has the same stability as the stock one.
Danvdh' gpe rom is good for me when I am tired from TW but again having very very stable and fast rom. Ive even have better battery life and I can say it is the snappiest rom out there. It is beyond Goldeneye regarding that criteria.

The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?

hi, i just bought i9505 , i want to install a custom rom but i hesitate.
Currently my i9505 is very stable and responsive with Stock rom based on lollipop 5.0.1
can you please tell me if is it a good idea to change to custom rom or not ? i want try UPSM and others mod
What is advantage if i change rom ?
is it easy to come back to stock if i decide to try custom rom ?
Thank you in advance

I've tried both custom and stock roms and I am now using a stock rom because I also own a Samsung Gear 2 Neo, which only works properly on the stock rom for now...

skezza said:
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.

dontpannic said:
We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then

skezza said:
True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....

myawan said:
I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I hope so. I've already fallen in love with this phone lol.

The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.

myawan said:
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?

stephendt0 said:
Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.

myawan said:
You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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I thought I had seen that feature on Stock Lollipop? hmm, maybe not. Still, it's a niche feature (I actually work in business where conference calls are regular and we use a bridge), and as put Skype and Hangouts do it pretty well too.

No ROMs based on official stock from Google. Why?

I've always asked to me this thing, because I don't want to install a AOSP ROM, I prefer to stay stock and flash some mods and kernels. It is not possible?
In the case of AOSP roms, the camera has the same quality as the Google's stock roms?

Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.

水攸月羽 said:
Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock

stefyno said:
Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?

stefyno said:
Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.

PsiPhiDan said:
The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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geoff5093 said:
I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!

stefyno said:
Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
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Dude, just root it, enjoy stock if you want and flash a custom kernel. If you decide to venture out, give PN a try.. It is exactly what you're looking for, just an AOSP rom. There is barely any difference between a stock google rom and AOSP.. no one is going to build a stock google rom, it's a waste of time

If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?

mikeprius said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.

robocuff said:
If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:

mikeprius said:
ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.

PsiPhiDan said:
Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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I have to agree. Never had a single issue, great battery and smooth as butter.

Yeah I've had stock lock up for me once. Been running PN since January and it's more stable then stock.
Why no one is building of stock ROM no idea. WETA was based on stock, but he stopped development when all the AOSP ROMs came out.
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Most Reliable 100% Working ROM for Honor 6X US Variant?

I'm giving a new Honor 6X to my father in law, and he needs something that's reliable and everything works. He lives several hours away so I won't be there to help him, and he can't tinker with his phone.
Phone is unlocked and rooted, and I installed twrp-3.1.1-0-berlin recovery already. Android version doesn't matter, this just needs to be 100% working and reliable. Even a stock debloated ROM would be fine, but I can't find anything like that and it's a PITA to manually debloat the stock ROM.
What can you suggest please?

Welcome to Kirrin world- nothing perfect can be created here.

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Welcome to Kirrin world- nothing perfect can be created here.
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So best to leave it stock and manually debloat? There's no debloated stock ROM (or any ROM) that's 100% working?

Superorb said:
So best to leave it stock and manually debloat? There's no debloated stock ROM (or any ROM) that's 100% working?
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U can give Elite ROM 7.2 a try.....but it isn't perfect in terms of magisk, permission manager etc minor bugs- better performance than stock
LOS, AOSP have performance issues imo
I tried almost every ROM and finally settled with stock if u want most stable and everything working accepting poor optimization of RAM and performance of EMUI 5.0

Here's a guide on bloatware safe to remove made by me https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-list-bloat-software-emui-safe-to-t3700814 - it could sound boring, but manually remove bloats on EMUI is the safe way to achieve a "clean" rom (stable the most, overall) for your father in law, actually. Hope it could be helpful.

sreekantt said:
U can give Elite ROM 7.2 a try.....but it isn't perfect in terms of magisk, permission manager etc minor bugs- better performance than stock
LOS, AOSP have performance issues imo
I tried almost every ROM and finally settled with stock if u want most stable and everything working accepting poor optimization of RAM and performance of EMUI 5.0
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Alright, stock it is.
RedSkull23 said:
Here's a guide on bloatware safe to remove made by me https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-list-bloat-software-emui-safe-to-t3700814 - it could sound boring, but manually remove bloats on EMUI is the safe way to achieve a "clean" rom (stable the most, overall) for your father in law, actually. Hope it could be helpful.
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Yup, I still have your guide from when you recommended it a few days ago :good:

Is there any way to remove the unlocked bootloader nag screen at startup?

Superorb said:
I'm giving a new Honor 6X to my father in law, and he needs something that's reliable and everything works. He lives several hours away so I won't be there to help him, and he can't tinker with his phone.
Phone is unlocked and rooted, and I installed twrp-3.1.1-0-berlin recovery already. Android version doesn't matter, this just needs to be 100% working and reliable. Even a stock debloated ROM would be fine, but I can't find anything like that and it's a PITA to manually debloat the stock ROM.
What can you suggest please?
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Its best to stay with stock. Ive tried most of the ROMS on the US variant and all had various issues.

BakedOnSomeSour said:
Its best to stay with stock. Ive tried most of the ROMS on the US variant and all had various issues.
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Yes, this seems to be the consensus. Can I stay rooted on stock without the bootup nag screen? Or can I remove the bloat without being rooted? I don't think system apps can be removed without root.

Superorb said:
Yup, I still have your guide from when you recommended it a few days ago :good:
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Ouch! I didn't wanted to be repetitive, sorry.
Superorb said:
Is there any way to remove the unlocked bootloader nag screen at startup?
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Not at the moment... I'd like to remove it too but there isn't a way yet.

What ROM setup do you guys use?

Hey peps!
Small and fast question. What ROM is your daily driver for this beautiful device, having a little difficult time picking and must admit a bit interested at the same time. ROM + modules/mods etc.
Have a great day.

Check my signature for mine. All links too if you wanna check anything out.

GeekMcLeod said:
Check my signature for mine. All links too if you wanna check anything out.
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McLeod (I didn't want to call you Geek...)
I saw your signature, and I see that you have a custom rom. Obviously then you're not concerned with OTA's, because your ROM gets frequent updates, no?
I have my OP7P rooted, and it runs awesome as stock. As a rooter of all previous phones, I naturally want to tweak the phone with a rom or kernel or something different. Or maybe not..
Are there kernels, by chance, that work with stock oos? Perhaps that might be an option for me and others to consider.
Thank you

nabril15 said:
McLeod (I didn't want to call you Geek...)
I saw your signature, and I see that you have a custom rom. Obviously then you're not concerned with OTA's, because your ROM gets frequent updates, no?
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Since I am using magisk ROMs, they usually work after an OTA (however you need the full update while rooted). As long as everything is prepared right,shouldn't be any issues unless a big jump in version numbers.
I have my OP7P rooted, and it runs awesome as stock. As a rooter of all previous phones, I naturally want to tweak the phone with a rom or kernel or something different. Or maybe not..
Are there kernels, by chance, that work with stock oos? Perhaps that might be an option for me and others to consider.
Thank you
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I assume there are plenty of kernels that will work on stock. Check out the ROMs and development section to find something that sounds good to you.