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Disadvantegs Of Roms

I want to now the desadvantages of roms i know that is not trusted and it harmful for phones .
And i want 2 no if the roms support Arabic like Official roms or not ?

You need to find it yourself, it is the best way to find advantages or disadvantages.

megachel said:
There are no disadvantages aas such. You will have to research and try the roms for yourself. The advantages however are plenty.
Many custom roms, especially if based on stock or cm will have all these languages. Again, research is your friend.
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Thanx i will try

buptwugh said:
You need to find it yourself, it is the best way to find advantages or disadvantages.
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It May be brick My phone What would i do then
I Try it In my friend's phone and it brick . . . I have to Repair it in a Shop and pay

Amrsamy2014 said:
I want to now the desadvantages of roms i know that is not trusted and it harmful for phones .
And i want 2 no if the roms support Arabic like Official roms or not ?
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Any One said their Disadvantages ?

disadvantages worthwhile discussion
I think disadvantages is a worthwhile discussion. Since installing SynergyRom I've had a lot of questions and gotten no help here. I lost voicemail and battery drainage is higher than before. It installs an application tab at random intervals and takes it off randomly as well.

Disadvantages :
Your battery might die faster, some features not working, default apps gone, bricking your phone
Advantages :
Extending the life of your phone, makes it much more smoother, not so much lag, you'll get extra features like tablet mode etc, more space in the internal memory.
It all depends on what type of Rom and the Kernel. All my android devices are rooted and are running on custom roms and its probably the best decision I've done. Sure, sometimes the battery will die faster but you can easily fix it by resetting the battery stats or by flashing another rom. The advantages outweighs the disadvantage imo.
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alt230 said:
I think disadvantages is a worthwhile discussion. Since installing SynergyRom I've had a lot of questions and gotten no help here. I lost voicemail and battery drainage is higher than before. It installs an application tab at random intervals and takes it off randomly as well.
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Thats What I talking About .. you must Unbrick ur mobile Using Odin And The official Firmware And When u want to install a rom then u must find a trust Rom nt Any rom .

mha93 said:
Disadvantages :
Your battery might die faster, some features not working, default apps gone, bricking your phone
Advantages :
Extending the life of your phone, makes it much more smoother, not so much lag, you'll get extra features like tablet mode etc, more space in the internal memory.
It all depends on what type of Rom and the Kernel. All my android devices are rooted and are running on custom roms and its probably the best decision I've done. Sure, sometimes the battery will die faster but you can easily fix it by resetting the battery stats or by flashing another rom. The advantages outweighs the disadvantage imo.
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Thanx a lot i prefer dont Instal rom .

Well! official roms are stable but slow & sometimes laggy! But custom roms are fast but sonetimes not stable! & you should not worry about stability, in custom rom it's worth it!

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yousufhere said:
Well! official roms are stable but slow & sometimes laggy! But custom roms are fast but sonetimes not stable! & you should not worry about stability, in custom rom it's worth it!
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Sure ?

The only way you could brick your device is if you 1) flash a rom meant for another device 2) improperly flash it, not following the instructions
Most of the time, bricking is caused by the errors made by the flasher.
If you want to have a stable custom rom, don't flash those roms with the words 'nightly build' or 'work in progress' and read the comments, see if anyone mentioned any problem with that rom.
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Bricking isn't a "disadvantage". It's something at happens when peiple don't do their research. Luckily for them, there are still solutions to fix a hard brick, even.
The disadvantages of ROMs are really that they require you to understand the device and how to use it. That's ROMs i the a whole, not trying to pick between them (and even the stock ROM is stilk a ROM...).
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MOTO G, custom ROM = Yes or No?

I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So for now I have stayed with the standard Moto G Rom. Then tweaked it a little by doing the following.
1. Unlocked the phone
2. Rooted using TWRP (couldn't get CWM to work right)
3. Eliminated the Unlocked warning screen at start up :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548530
4. Changed the 3G data to H, H+ format :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600654
5. Installed Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvic from here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120 (thanks @drfr )
6. Installed a new Faux123 Kernel, flcon_umts-faux123-kk-005u-signed.zip from here :- http://faux.romhost.me/falcon_umts/kk44/
7. From Play store installed the xposed installer
8. From Play Store added module Gravity box (KK)
9. From Play Store added module Ringer & Notification Volume
10. Installed the Apex launcher
11. From Play Store purchased Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (couldn't find a free tool that worked!)
Result is a very stable ROM together with most of the little tweaks that I like to get from a Custom ROM. Plus everything works great. The current Antutu result is 19860.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?

As far as I know, the stock rom has a lot of optimizations for the Moto G hardware. For instance, its based on F2FS which is something the GPE Moto G does not have going for it.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.

I have this way of thinking too. So just going through the steps 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 10. My phone is excellent.

drfr said:
That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
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Thank you, I didn't know that, funny but I could swear that Antutu improved! I am still trying to decide if Point 6. Faux123 is really worth it. The 1.6gh/z over clocking is working and I am still getting two days of average use per charge. Can't decide either way really......

Same here, at this point, custom roms (non stock based) are non sense, since the stock is almost Aosp and updated as hell. Xposed is all you need.
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All you need is Xposed, Faux kernel and the optimized Dalvik :S
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Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?

Soerdroid said:
Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48932223&postcount=430
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120

Great antutu result. Mostly due to the overclock. CM based roms doesnt have working overclock yet.

Im far away from that 19860 antutu score, any tips? I installed faux kernel and optimizers from qualcomm and cant get even close to 18000.
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grahamgo said:
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
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True. But its for now and that is because this is a brand new phone also with multiple variants like 1031/2/3
Hence creating a kind of obstruction for a successful ROM dev
Furthermore you don't just dev a ROM to get an Android update.
Its for the different features that people are looking for.
You might wanna try xposed modules.
Hell l0tta options there. Not for now but then for future.
Also then small little tweaks from other phones can be ported to this one.
There are just countless things that you can customize once you are rooted.
I had a Galaxy Ace duos CDMA which had no custom ROM.
But once I got it rooted my phone was so much better.
I had an extended internal memory with my SD card.
The bloatware that covered the small little internal memory was completely removed.
And it was so much faster and Functional with those rooted apps.
If that small little phone could do some magic with rooting.
Then this is a beast.
Half the new functionality that we get on the updates are actually the features of apps that work on rooted phones.
Wifi hotspot for an instance.
Agreed that in the current scenario its really not so useful but rooting your phone is a gift to yourself
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How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2

checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks

tsimitsangaz said:
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
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Look into system/vendor/lib
Sent. Really?

yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.

tsimitsangaz said:
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
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You do have all those files, they are not in the same folder. Just search harder.

intellq said:
How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
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No one?

intellq said:
No one?
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Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
[ROM]Nexus G+ Build 007[4.4.2]
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Alejandrissimo said:
Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
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That rom probably won't work in my phone. I'm on an XT1033 (dual sim)
Someone with stock was able to make faux + dalvik work?

[Q] New N5, switch to custom ROM rightaway or wait?

I just bought a new Nexus 5. I love all the extra features custom ROMs come with, and I bought this phone because it has the best ROMs
How good are the various custom ROMs in terms of stability and battery life at present? Should I switch to a ROM rightaway or is it better to wait for better/more stable builds (the ROMs I'm considering are still in beta)?

Imho the best rom is purity for n5, stable and rock solid. For kernels there are a lot but i personally use faux
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Hello,
Please read the stickies before creating a new topic. ROM Comparison threads are not allowed here. You can head over to the development section and try the various AWESOME roms which have been developed and settle on the one which suits you the best!
I would reccomend you to stay stock for at least a few weeks so that you feel the stock experience for a while and then jump on to a custom rom as you will now have something to compare the custom rom with and the awesome feeling when you jump from stock to custom!
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...

Just a friendly reminder that this thread is about the stability about custom ROMs, not which ROM's the best/better than...
Discussions about stability are ok, but please don't slide into "best ROM" discussions, or else I have to close this thread

Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
Sent from my Nexus 5

jd1639 said:
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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The phone is already unlocked/rooted/running CWM. That's the first thing I did when I unboxed it. And I'm already looking into the xposed modules that would fit my requirements.
vin4yak said:
Hello,
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?

crimsonedge03 said:
When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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Yes there are... I'm on AICP and I get SODs once every 2-3 days... Because of the various CM patches and other stuffs, it sometimes breaks Tethering (although it is fixed by the dev the very next day)... Some other patch broke the lockscreen wallpaper on other rom...
I hope you know what I'm trying to say... These are just minor issues which occur when you flash custom roms and are ironed out by the dev within days... but they seem negligible when you get the awesome experience in using a custom rom...

What seems stable to one person may not to the next. And vice versa. We all use our phones different ways for different things. The only real way to know is read through the rom threads, starting from the last page and going backwards for latest comments and/or flash them and find out for yourself.
Thanks to nandroid backups and restores....going back to our good setup is easy if you don't like something.
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I would stay stock for now and test out all of the custom kernels and see which has the greatest impact on impoving your current battery life. As said before in other threads what works for one Nexus 5 may not be the same on another one. As for the rom I prefer using stock+xposed. The modules I use are: gravitybox, xHaloFloatingWindow (with Floatifications from the play store) and greenify.

The custom dishes by our chefs are all great! Those who have to ask should stay stock for a while!

Stay stock . There has been no need for custom roms for a while. Kk is great. Kernels are another matter. I'd concentrate on finding a good kernel. All the features you want on a rom can be got with Xposed framework and modules, ie gravity box
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The N5 has been out for a while, alot of awesome dev's has made roms. At this point, a custom rom is a must for the N5!
I would recommend PA for a stock experience or PAC for a all in one rom.

Thank you for the suggestions everyone.
I've had this phone for just a couple of days, so I won't rush into a custom ROM. Gravitybox and other xposed modules have most of the features and customisations I wanted, so I'll stick to stock for a while, and explore stock KK thoroughly. I might try out a few custom kernels though.

Discussion - Your Favorite ROM

With MM based ROMs coming out with enough time for people to get used to them, along with LP and KK based ROMs that have been around for awhile, what are people's favorite S5 ROMs?
Which ones offered the most robust features?
The most stable with limited issues (HD calling, modem issues, wifi calling, accessing data and wifi)?
The best usability and customization?
The most attractive?
The best battery life?
For people coming from a stock android experience (Nexus, Moto, AOSP ROMs), which ROMs let you go back to that? I personally find TW to look atrocious (just a personal opinion) but there are very few TW ROMs that keep the framework intact, but that also let you have the stock experience.

i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui

You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:

Lightn1ng said:
You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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I ended up going with Phoenix for my first one. Being able to use themes is helpful, because I can use a Material based one. But it's very bloated and has a few features that are pointless on the S5, and I'm spending nearly as much time debloating as I would on a Stock ROM.
Vanir does look really nice. I'm kind of worried about issues on not being on a TW ROM though. The is my first time using recoveries and Custom ROMs (Haven't bricked too bad yet), and not sure I'd be able to troubleshoot issues.

Cristeg79 said:
i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
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Great ROM, I wish he would update it!

I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.

Nerva said:
I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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A lot of the VZW roms out now are being updated or have been updated to MM.
Give Phoenix a try.
I've found that coming from Moto and Nexus devices, TW is just not for me. But for people who are used to it, I think Phoenix is fully featured.

freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW

kurntech said:
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues

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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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Most CM based ROMs for this device have issues. Hell, most CM based ROMs for any device have issues. For the record, I don't agree with him either, I'm using the NO_BS 5.0 ROM and it's only slightly better than stock...

You could try cyanide for android ROM mm cm13 based ROM for kltevzw
it is an engineer build and crazy super kernel works well on it with kernel auditor mod apk to control kernel

Roms

I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!

Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.

Resurrection Remix Smooth like F ?

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Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds

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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.

GeekMcLeod said:
I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...

mase1871 said:
It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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Seems like it. Although, when my banking app had tap to pay built in, I was able to hide root and use it. Now I'm forced to use google pay and I can't get it to work while rooted.

Is No limits Magisk stable?

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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Avoid stuff like that, will do now harm than good

Also on RR rom, for my banking app I use another app called island. Didn't detect root at all

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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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I've used it, thought it was good. But pretty sure everything is running better on stock. Even with other magisk and EdXposed modules.

I think I am going to go back to RR. I was on it but had an issue with the sound. I flash oos and miss RR already lol

UnicornHub said:
I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it

Greatness83 said:
Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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I have noticed the battery life is amazing. I can use themeing apps to once I get root back I think I'm going to stay on stock rooted international for a while.

GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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Which kernel are you using?

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Which kernel are you using?
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My favorite has always been elementalx. It's great on every device I've had.

What about resurrection vs crdroid? I Ave been reading on both and both seems stable and good.

I've tried multiple custom roms but keeping coming back to stock, every rom seems to have some kind of functionality missing that the stock rom has, it's not worth it to lose base functionality just to have something different looking.

mase1871 said:
is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with Safety Net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration with root apps and have CTS check bypass (kernel level) it should work without a problem like stock/unrooted, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.

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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with safety net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration and have Saftey Net CTS check bypass it wont be any problems, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Thanks for your input. I have actually unrooted my device and with a little bit of debloating I am getting the best battery life I have ever had (compared to quite a few custom roms & kernels I have tried out) + I was also able to get GCam with aux lenses, Youtube Vanced and get all the customization I need using Nova Prime Launcher. Really don't see myself coming back to any custom rom, as they tend to have bugs here and there, or have something that simply doesn't work the way it should. Stock everything gives me everything I need from this phone :good: