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Should I root my m8?

Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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Very good point, I love how responsive my phone is, and I also like the way the stock rom feels and looks. Now I will consider rooting it.

xs11e said:
To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.
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So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?

gogz2005 said:
So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?
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gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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If you are keeping the stock ROM do NOT remove the bloatware if it is a system file. (Most of them are) If you remove them you will not be able to take the OTA updates from your carrier until you restore them. You are better off disabling them or using Titanium Backup to Freeze them. That way they are easily reversed so you can take the OTA update.

gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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titanium back up freeeze/uninstall

I used to crack flash back on my Galaxy Nexus. I had the M8 for about a month before I rooted and S'Offed. I'm hesitant to flash a full custom ROM as of yet because stock plus Xposed is keeping me extremely happy. For me, the Xposed framework and modules is such a great setup because it allows me to pick and choose which tweaks I want.

Was gonna remain stock till I downloaded an xposed mod that messed up my wifi (possibly due to having a feature another xposed module was handling turned on) . Instead of reflashing and adding all the tweaks and flash zip to a stock ROM, I went ahead and flashed cleanrom which is basically debloated with all the tweaks/mods I already previously had and wanted.
Cleanrom plus the xposed modules like sense6 toolbox, gravity box, XSense, etc make staying stock or stock-ish a very glamorous option

Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
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wtoj34 said:
Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
Edit just read the most recent post right after posting this. Oh well. You'll love CleanROM though. Had it for about a month (practically a record for me and roms) and I love it. Gpe is also pretty stable may try that it he future 'cause I heart aosp but other than that I see no reason to use anything but CleanROM
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I think that it was I will try, CleanRom. Thank you for the advice.

I'm loving the GPE rom
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Root It!
The Cyanogenmod nightlies are good - the 6/16 version did not have any problems.

ROM Recommendation

Hi,
My brother has some issues with his phone (Moto G 2013, not dual SIM, not 4G) in the last time. The phone is quite unstable, so I recommended him to flash custom recovery, and eventually custom ROM.
The question is which one? This is not ROM vs ROM thread. I do not wont to compare ROMs. Just aks people for they personal experience. If anyone could recommend a stable (his/her personal opinion.) ROM, or comment lolipop, should I got for Kit Kat ROM or Loli (He still hasn't received the OTA update to Lolipop.).
I have tried to research a bit and find out for my self what would be the best option for him, but the task is not so simple, and pretty time consuming. Strange how everything, from rooting to flashing seem so complicated when one looks at the forum, when one actually only has to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash recovery, and flash the ROM of personal choice (Here I need a bit help : )).
I hope the question is ok, if not... sorry in advance.

the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:

skinnyj said:
the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:
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What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!

!crazy said:
What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!
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+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -

skinnyj said:
+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -
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I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story ☺. Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended ☺. He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
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!crazy said:
I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story . Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended . He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
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hahahaha, I've been flashing Roms and kernels to see which would suit me best, and I found this amazing stock ROM with amazing battery life.
Cheers

If you want half-bleeding edge ROMs than Dirty Unicorns is quite good with a big load a custom tweaks HOWEVER, I found resource management (RAM mostly) on Dirty Unicorns was . . . less than satisfactory and battery life was average-not great. If you want an up-to-date and almost-as-many-tweaks-as-dirty-unicorns then Exodus is the way to go Rock solid, fluid and quite compatible with custom kernels.
Oh, and about kernels. I cannot recommend ZERO Byte kernel enough. Great battery life, even with slight overclock (meaning better performance) and supports underclock (battery save 2 extreme!)

If him want a stock like and rock stable try AOSP+OMS.

ROM: Stock vs Custom

Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?

Yes

zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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I've never had any issue with any ROM and I love Samsung phones but I hate touchwiz

zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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You are right, if you have life out of your mobile phone then stock ROM is the best otherwise waste your life in never ending process of flashing and modding your phone......lolz. There will be a stage when you'll be happy that CM12.1 is half stable but then Android M will be out.

the stock ROM is much stable but it not so fast like custom, anyways you can try to use a custom for a while and decide what is the best for you

I also experienced that in costom always has a bugs... I using stock firmware together with Nova Launcher...

Stock here - 5.0.1 stable, smooth and fast. Don't see any point in changing.... And I used to be a big modder!

I tried cm 12.1 and returned to stock because it bored me. It didn't give me what I wanted. It's a bit overestimated. Rooting and flashing makes me addicted to phone. Never ending process. Always wanting more. Stick to original and enjoy.

Yes I agree with you till some point. Till now I have tried almost every rom out there for my 9505, but almost always I am coming back to stock. According to me and the current situation there are only two custom roms that are really providing stock stability and I have seen not a single bug, so they can be daily drivers. They are the current version of Danvdh's gpe rom (with the couple of the previous ones I had minor issues. At least after LP came out) and the second and the one where I have never experienced any single bug in no single version of it (LP or KK), and that is the TW rom from iB4stid (sadly he will not develop for 9505 anymore), goldeneye (and also goldenfinger in the time of KK). However goldeneye is almost same as stock so maybe thats why I like it.
The benefit that I see from using the goldeneye despite stock rom is that you can always use the latest rom relased but again stiching to the modem version of the operator that I am using my phone with (I do not have good experience with flashing separate modem packages), with that taking the best of both worlds. In this situation you have the modem that works best with your carrier and the latest base from samsung that has the same stability as the stock one.
Danvdh' gpe rom is good for me when I am tired from TW but again having very very stable and fast rom. Ive even have better battery life and I can say it is the snappiest rom out there. It is beyond Goldeneye regarding that criteria.

The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?

hi, i just bought i9505 , i want to install a custom rom but i hesitate.
Currently my i9505 is very stable and responsive with Stock rom based on lollipop 5.0.1
can you please tell me if is it a good idea to change to custom rom or not ? i want try UPSM and others mod
What is advantage if i change rom ?
is it easy to come back to stock if i decide to try custom rom ?
Thank you in advance

I've tried both custom and stock roms and I am now using a stock rom because I also own a Samsung Gear 2 Neo, which only works properly on the stock rom for now...

skezza said:
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.

dontpannic said:
We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then

skezza said:
True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....

myawan said:
I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I hope so. I've already fallen in love with this phone lol.

The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.

myawan said:
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?

stephendt0 said:
Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.

myawan said:
You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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I thought I had seen that feature on Stock Lollipop? hmm, maybe not. Still, it's a niche feature (I actually work in business where conference calls are regular and we use a bridge), and as put Skype and Hangouts do it pretty well too.

New rom and Newbie help

I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated

xpoisonxdartx said:
I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated
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I recommend lineage 14.1 sumire . Pretty stable , make sure you back up your drm key first .?

xpoisonxdartx said:
I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated
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About the fingerprint scanner, you have to install one before the last one to make it works.

crisout said:
About the fingerprint scanner, you have to install one before the last one to make it works.
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what do you mean ? I dont understand

xpoisonxdartx said:
what do you mean ? I dont understand
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In lineage-14.1-20170712 the fingerprint scanner is working.

crisout said:
In lineage-14.1-20170712 the fingerprint scanner is working.
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so you are saying I should flash 14.1-20170712 ?
anyway i didnt get the phone yet only next week so its still stock I presume

xpoisonxdartx said:
so you are saying I should flash 14.1-20170712 ?
anyway i didnt get the phone yet only next week so its still stock I presume
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Yes, I personally prefer stock with some tweaks, xnext camera, ambient display, Magisk for pass safety net. I really like to take pictures, with stock you keep the drm Keys and can making photos with low light haha.

crisout said:
Yes, I personally prefer stock with some tweaks, xnext camera, ambient display, Magisk for pass safety net. I really like to take pictures, with stock you keep the drm Keys and can making photos with low light haha.
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Well then to be honest i just want to install unsigned apps i dont really care for a custom rom so can i do that with just rooting and installing 7.1.1 stock rom ?

xpoisonxdartx said:
Well then to be honest i just want to install unsigned apps i dont really care for a custom rom so can i do that with just rooting and installing 7.1.1 stock rom ?
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There are ways to install unsigned apps, you don't really have to change to a custom rom.
If your definition of ''unsigned apps'' is cracked, patched apps, you can always install apk.
And yes, you can root on stock rom (no difference on custom rom).

colorado48 said:
There are ways to install unsigned apps, you don't really have to change to a custom rom.
If your definition of ''unsigned apps'' is cracked, patched apps, you can always install apk.
And yes, you can root on stock rom (no difference on custom rom).
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Ok so then I guess I will stick with stock and will just root . And in terms of stock what version should I stick to ? And yes when I say "unsigned apps" I mean cracked and patched.

Roms

I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!

Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.

Resurrection Remix Smooth like F ?

GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds

mase1871 said:
is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.

GeekMcLeod said:
I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...

mase1871 said:
It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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Seems like it. Although, when my banking app had tap to pay built in, I was able to hide root and use it. Now I'm forced to use google pay and I can't get it to work while rooted.

Is No limits Magisk stable?

UnicornHub said:
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Avoid stuff like that, will do now harm than good

Also on RR rom, for my banking app I use another app called island. Didn't detect root at all

UnicornHub said:
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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I've used it, thought it was good. But pretty sure everything is running better on stock. Even with other magisk and EdXposed modules.

I think I am going to go back to RR. I was on it but had an issue with the sound. I flash oos and miss RR already lol

UnicornHub said:
I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it

Greatness83 said:
Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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I have noticed the battery life is amazing. I can use themeing apps to once I get root back I think I'm going to stay on stock rooted international for a while.

GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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Which kernel are you using?

Akhayev said:
Which kernel are you using?
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My favorite has always been elementalx. It's great on every device I've had.

What about resurrection vs crdroid? I Ave been reading on both and both seems stable and good.

I've tried multiple custom roms but keeping coming back to stock, every rom seems to have some kind of functionality missing that the stock rom has, it's not worth it to lose base functionality just to have something different looking.

mase1871 said:
is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with Safety Net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration with root apps and have CTS check bypass (kernel level) it should work without a problem like stock/unrooted, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.

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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with safety net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration and have Saftey Net CTS check bypass it wont be any problems, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Thanks for your input. I have actually unrooted my device and with a little bit of debloating I am getting the best battery life I have ever had (compared to quite a few custom roms & kernels I have tried out) + I was also able to get GCam with aux lenses, Youtube Vanced and get all the customization I need using Nova Prime Launcher. Really don't see myself coming back to any custom rom, as they tend to have bugs here and there, or have something that simply doesn't work the way it should. Stock everything gives me everything I need from this phone :good: