Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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I've never had any issue with any ROM and I love Samsung phones but I hate touchwiz
zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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You are right, if you have life out of your mobile phone then stock ROM is the best otherwise waste your life in never ending process of flashing and modding your phone......lolz. There will be a stage when you'll be happy that CM12.1 is half stable but then Android M will be out.
the stock ROM is much stable but it not so fast like custom, anyways you can try to use a custom for a while and decide what is the best for you
I also experienced that in costom always has a bugs... I using stock firmware together with Nova Launcher...
Stock here - 5.0.1 stable, smooth and fast. Don't see any point in changing.... And I used to be a big modder!
I tried cm 12.1 and returned to stock because it bored me. It didn't give me what I wanted. It's a bit overestimated. Rooting and flashing makes me addicted to phone. Never ending process. Always wanting more. Stick to original and enjoy.
Yes I agree with you till some point. Till now I have tried almost every rom out there for my 9505, but almost always I am coming back to stock. According to me and the current situation there are only two custom roms that are really providing stock stability and I have seen not a single bug, so they can be daily drivers. They are the current version of Danvdh's gpe rom (with the couple of the previous ones I had minor issues. At least after LP came out) and the second and the one where I have never experienced any single bug in no single version of it (LP or KK), and that is the TW rom from iB4stid (sadly he will not develop for 9505 anymore), goldeneye (and also goldenfinger in the time of KK). However goldeneye is almost same as stock so maybe thats why I like it.
The benefit that I see from using the goldeneye despite stock rom is that you can always use the latest rom relased but again stiching to the modem version of the operator that I am using my phone with (I do not have good experience with flashing separate modem packages), with that taking the best of both worlds. In this situation you have the modem that works best with your carrier and the latest base from samsung that has the same stability as the stock one.
Danvdh' gpe rom is good for me when I am tired from TW but again having very very stable and fast rom. Ive even have better battery life and I can say it is the snappiest rom out there. It is beyond Goldeneye regarding that criteria.
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
hi, i just bought i9505 , i want to install a custom rom but i hesitate.
Currently my i9505 is very stable and responsive with Stock rom based on lollipop 5.0.1
can you please tell me if is it a good idea to change to custom rom or not ? i want try UPSM and others mod
What is advantage if i change rom ?
is it easy to come back to stock if i decide to try custom rom ?
Thank you in advance
I've tried both custom and stock roms and I am now using a stock rom because I also own a Samsung Gear 2 Neo, which only works properly on the stock rom for now...
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The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
dontpannic said:
We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I hope so. I've already fallen in love with this phone lol.
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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I thought I had seen that feature on Stock Lollipop? hmm, maybe not. Still, it's a niche feature (I actually work in business where conference calls are regular and we use a bridge), and as put Skype and Hangouts do it pretty well too.
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I just bought a new Nexus 5. I love all the extra features custom ROMs come with, and I bought this phone because it has the best ROMs
How good are the various custom ROMs in terms of stability and battery life at present? Should I switch to a ROM rightaway or is it better to wait for better/more stable builds (the ROMs I'm considering are still in beta)?
Imho the best rom is purity for n5, stable and rock solid. For kernels there are a lot but i personally use faux
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Hello,
Please read the stickies before creating a new topic. ROM Comparison threads are not allowed here. You can head over to the development section and try the various AWESOME roms which have been developed and settle on the one which suits you the best!
I would reccomend you to stay stock for at least a few weeks so that you feel the stock experience for a while and then jump on to a custom rom as you will now have something to compare the custom rom with and the awesome feeling when you jump from stock to custom!
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
Just a friendly reminder that this thread is about the stability about custom ROMs, not which ROM's the best/better than...
Discussions about stability are ok, but please don't slide into "best ROM" discussions, or else I have to close this thread
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
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Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
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The phone is already unlocked/rooted/running CWM. That's the first thing I did when I unboxed it. And I'm already looking into the xposed modules that would fit my requirements.
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Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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Yes there are... I'm on AICP and I get SODs once every 2-3 days... Because of the various CM patches and other stuffs, it sometimes breaks Tethering (although it is fixed by the dev the very next day)... Some other patch broke the lockscreen wallpaper on other rom...
I hope you know what I'm trying to say... These are just minor issues which occur when you flash custom roms and are ironed out by the dev within days... but they seem negligible when you get the awesome experience in using a custom rom...
What seems stable to one person may not to the next. And vice versa. We all use our phones different ways for different things. The only real way to know is read through the rom threads, starting from the last page and going backwards for latest comments and/or flash them and find out for yourself.
Thanks to nandroid backups and restores....going back to our good setup is easy if you don't like something.
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I would stay stock for now and test out all of the custom kernels and see which has the greatest impact on impoving your current battery life. As said before in other threads what works for one Nexus 5 may not be the same on another one. As for the rom I prefer using stock+xposed. The modules I use are: gravitybox, xHaloFloatingWindow (with Floatifications from the play store) and greenify.
The custom dishes by our chefs are all great! Those who have to ask should stay stock for a while!
Stay stock . There has been no need for custom roms for a while. Kk is great. Kernels are another matter. I'd concentrate on finding a good kernel. All the features you want on a rom can be got with Xposed framework and modules, ie gravity box
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The N5 has been out for a while, alot of awesome dev's has made roms. At this point, a custom rom is a must for the N5!
I would recommend PA for a stock experience or PAC for a all in one rom.
Thank you for the suggestions everyone.
I've had this phone for just a couple of days, so I won't rush into a custom ROM. Gravitybox and other xposed modules have most of the features and customisations I wanted, so I'll stick to stock for a while, and explore stock KK thoroughly. I might try out a few custom kernels though.
With MM based ROMs coming out with enough time for people to get used to them, along with LP and KK based ROMs that have been around for awhile, what are people's favorite S5 ROMs?
Which ones offered the most robust features?
The most stable with limited issues (HD calling, modem issues, wifi calling, accessing data and wifi)?
The best usability and customization?
The most attractive?
The best battery life?
For people coming from a stock android experience (Nexus, Moto, AOSP ROMs), which ROMs let you go back to that? I personally find TW to look atrocious (just a personal opinion) but there are very few TW ROMs that keep the framework intact, but that also let you have the stock experience.
i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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I ended up going with Phoenix for my first one. Being able to use themes is helpful, because I can use a Material based one. But it's very bloated and has a few features that are pointless on the S5, and I'm spending nearly as much time debloating as I would on a Stock ROM.
Vanir does look really nice. I'm kind of worried about issues on not being on a TW ROM though. The is my first time using recoveries and Custom ROMs (Haven't bricked too bad yet), and not sure I'd be able to troubleshoot issues.
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i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
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Great ROM, I wish he would update it!
I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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A lot of the VZW roms out now are being updated or have been updated to MM.
Give Phoenix a try.
I've found that coming from Moto and Nexus devices, TW is just not for me. But for people who are used to it, I think Phoenix is fully featured.
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
kurntech said:
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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Most CM based ROMs for this device have issues. Hell, most CM based ROMs for any device have issues. For the record, I don't agree with him either, I'm using the NO_BS 5.0 ROM and it's only slightly better than stock...
You could try cyanide for android ROM mm cm13 based ROM for kltevzw
it is an engineer build and crazy super kernel works well on it with kernel auditor mod apk to control kernel
Only for the 7.1.19!!!
https://mega.nz/#!8RkzGJyZ!3DTKtzWNUYir_NQbgEPTXPjObnfBmz-Z9JBTQPvyqiU
Where is 7.1.19 ?
are this updates from 6.22.29 I wonder? thanks
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Where is 7.1.19 ?
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Check the link for latest updates for EU ROM, posted in the Guide.
I've updated to 7.1 19 and I can confirm that it is stable. No issues noticed so far. There wont be updates for the next two weeks until the Spring festival is over in China.
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Where is 7.1.19 ?
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Multilanguage:
globe ROM
xiaomi.eu
Epic ROM Pro
there is a problem with google now latest version of google now + exposed assistance enabler on rom UE v7.1.19, it does wakes up the phone but there is no response on commands unless the screen is unlocked.
Has anyone noticed that the notification lights for messages isn't working in 7.1.19?
I'm still having touch issues with this version of TWRP
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I'm still having touch issues with this version of TWRP
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Same. Still can't do anything in twrp.
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Same. Still can't do anything in twrp.
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Use Epic Rom instead. The Dev uses the 7.1.19 base for his rom but he made it compatible with TWRP
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Use Epic Rom instead. The Dev uses the 7.1.19 base for his rom but he made it compatible with TWRP
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I'm using Epic currently as I have just updated to 7.1.19
For everyone with touch issues, you can use working recovery from this post (Part 4) http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=471497
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Use Epic Rom instead. The Dev uses the 7.1.19 base for his rom but he made it compatible with TWRP
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Nah, no offense to the Dev but after a long history of flashing custom roms I have come to the conclusion that they are almost always, worse.
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Nah, no offense to the Dev but after a long history of flashing custom roms I have come to the conclusion that they are almost always, worse.
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Well, CyanogenMod was a custom OS\ROM\Whatever you'd like to call it, but it wasn't something that most phones shipped with. And it turned out to be the most preferred Custom Android ROM, with custom ROMS being based on CM.
I would close my eyes and buy a device if I knew it had official support for CM (LineageOS). I bet most people would.
Apart from issues with their management and rebranding to LineageOS, I don't see what's bad or "worse" with it. Just saying that "Worse" is a strong way to put it.
I do agree that some custom ROMS, no matter how stable have a few bugs\drawbacks occasionally, but so does the stock ROMS.
It is custom ROMS that use a lot of MODS which are generally more prone to stability issues. By mods, I'm referring to certain features like Bravia Engine\ Dolby Atmos ported from another device.
I cant comment on the EPIC ROM as I haven't tried it. But from what other users are saying here, it seems to be a pretty decent and stable ROM, despite having a few extra MODS.
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Well, CyanogenMod was a custom OS\ROM\Whatever you'd like to call it, but it wasn't something that most phones shipped with. And it turned out to be the most preferred Custom Android ROM, with custom ROMS being based on CM.
I would close my eyes and buy a device if I knew it had official support for CM (LineageOS). I bet most people would.
Apart from issues with their management and rebranding to LineageOS, I don't see what's bad or "worse" with it. Just saying that "Worse" is a strong way to put it.
I do agree that some custom ROMS, no matter how stable have a few bugs\drawbacks occasionally, but so does the stock ROMS.
It is custom ROMS that use a lot of MODS which are generally more prone to stability issues. By mods, I'm referring to certain features like Bravia Engine\ Dolby Atmos ported from another device.
I cant comment on the EPIC ROM as I haven't tried it. But from what other users are saying here, it seems to be a pretty decent and stable ROM, despite having a few extra MODS.
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That's why I said almost always. CM and PA were two that could be relied upon for stability.
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Only for the 7.1.19!!!
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Is not avalaible!
I've always asked to me this thing, because I don't want to install a AOSP ROM, I prefer to stay stock and flash some mods and kernels. It is not possible?
In the case of AOSP roms, the camera has the same quality as the Google's stock roms?
Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
stefyno said:
Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
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Dude, just root it, enjoy stock if you want and flash a custom kernel. If you decide to venture out, give PN a try.. It is exactly what you're looking for, just an AOSP rom. There is barely any difference between a stock google rom and AOSP.. no one is going to build a stock google rom, it's a waste of time
If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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I have to agree. Never had a single issue, great battery and smooth as butter.
Yeah I've had stock lock up for me once. Been running PN since January and it's more stable then stock.
Why no one is building of stock ROM no idea. WETA was based on stock, but he stopped development when all the AOSP ROMs came out.
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Besides CM, what other ROMs have you guys tested and chosen to use?
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Besides CM, what other ROMs have you guys tested and chosen to use?
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I use BlissPop for my GTN8013 and I love it. But, for some reason on high demanding games (like FarmVille), it causes the game to be laggy even when overclocked, when other ROMs don't have this issue. I've considered going back to AndroidRevolution ROM (which is on KitKat), but it requires so many different things to even get it to boot.
But yes, I would recommend BlissPop. It's no longer getting updates, but it's the only stable one I've seen for the N8013.
IMO there is no better custom ROM out there than CM13 for this device....add a new battery and CM13 and you have a tablet that runs more efficiently than most current devices!
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IMO there is no better custom ROM out there than CM13 for this device....add a new battery and CM13 and you have a tablet that runs more efficiently than most current retail devices!
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I though CM13 was unstable currently with no WiFi working?
And what do you mean by add a new battery?
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I though CM13 was unstable currently with no WiFi working?
And what do you mean by add a new battery?
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Very stable , no issues - wifi working no prob - have not encountered a single with it on 8013. My wife wants me to install on hers now...
Followed steps here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/development/rom-lollipop-t3269375
Battery here: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=New+battery+GT-N8013