I've always asked to me this thing, because I don't want to install a AOSP ROM, I prefer to stay stock and flash some mods and kernels. It is not possible?
In the case of AOSP roms, the camera has the same quality as the Google's stock roms?
Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
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Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
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Dude, just root it, enjoy stock if you want and flash a custom kernel. If you decide to venture out, give PN a try.. It is exactly what you're looking for, just an AOSP rom. There is barely any difference between a stock google rom and AOSP.. no one is going to build a stock google rom, it's a waste of time
If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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I have to agree. Never had a single issue, great battery and smooth as butter.
Yeah I've had stock lock up for me once. Been running PN since January and it's more stable then stock.
Why no one is building of stock ROM no idea. WETA was based on stock, but he stopped development when all the AOSP ROMs came out.
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Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
Yes
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Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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I've never had any issue with any ROM and I love Samsung phones but I hate touchwiz
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Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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You are right, if you have life out of your mobile phone then stock ROM is the best otherwise waste your life in never ending process of flashing and modding your phone......lolz. There will be a stage when you'll be happy that CM12.1 is half stable but then Android M will be out.
the stock ROM is much stable but it not so fast like custom, anyways you can try to use a custom for a while and decide what is the best for you
I also experienced that in costom always has a bugs... I using stock firmware together with Nova Launcher...
Stock here - 5.0.1 stable, smooth and fast. Don't see any point in changing.... And I used to be a big modder!
I tried cm 12.1 and returned to stock because it bored me. It didn't give me what I wanted. It's a bit overestimated. Rooting and flashing makes me addicted to phone. Never ending process. Always wanting more. Stick to original and enjoy.
Yes I agree with you till some point. Till now I have tried almost every rom out there for my 9505, but almost always I am coming back to stock. According to me and the current situation there are only two custom roms that are really providing stock stability and I have seen not a single bug, so they can be daily drivers. They are the current version of Danvdh's gpe rom (with the couple of the previous ones I had minor issues. At least after LP came out) and the second and the one where I have never experienced any single bug in no single version of it (LP or KK), and that is the TW rom from iB4stid (sadly he will not develop for 9505 anymore), goldeneye (and also goldenfinger in the time of KK). However goldeneye is almost same as stock so maybe thats why I like it.
The benefit that I see from using the goldeneye despite stock rom is that you can always use the latest rom relased but again stiching to the modem version of the operator that I am using my phone with (I do not have good experience with flashing separate modem packages), with that taking the best of both worlds. In this situation you have the modem that works best with your carrier and the latest base from samsung that has the same stability as the stock one.
Danvdh' gpe rom is good for me when I am tired from TW but again having very very stable and fast rom. Ive even have better battery life and I can say it is the snappiest rom out there. It is beyond Goldeneye regarding that criteria.
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
hi, i just bought i9505 , i want to install a custom rom but i hesitate.
Currently my i9505 is very stable and responsive with Stock rom based on lollipop 5.0.1
can you please tell me if is it a good idea to change to custom rom or not ? i want try UPSM and others mod
What is advantage if i change rom ?
is it easy to come back to stock if i decide to try custom rom ?
Thank you in advance
I've tried both custom and stock roms and I am now using a stock rom because I also own a Samsung Gear 2 Neo, which only works properly on the stock rom for now...
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The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I hope so. I've already fallen in love with this phone lol.
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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I thought I had seen that feature on Stock Lollipop? hmm, maybe not. Still, it's a niche feature (I actually work in business where conference calls are regular and we use a bridge), and as put Skype and Hangouts do it pretty well too.
i want to customize my phone using xposed and gravitybox. which rom should i use?
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i want to customize my phone using xposed and gravitybox. which rom should i use?
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AOSParadox...no doubt about it... Actually that's the combo I'm using...Can't be more happy...Search for it in Original Developer Roms
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i want to customize my phone using xposed and gravitybox. which rom should i use?
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Near to stock android:
Lollipop >> OxygenOS https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/update-oxygenos-1-0-3-with-the-latest-stagefright-patches.354409/
KitKat >> OnePlus AOSP https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/official-4-4-4-oneplus-aosp.65482/
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AOSParadox...no doubt about it... Actually that's the combo I'm using...Can't be more happy...Search for it in Original Developer Roms
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Completely agree. This is absolutely as bone close to stock as you can get basically. Can't even disable hardware keys without build.prop hacks, and doesn't even come rooted. Almost nothing is taken from anything but AOSP except CAF improvements for speed, and battery in the background. Have this as my backup ROM right now to prep for android M roms in their bone stock glory till we get some real modding done to them. Used it for a bit, buttery smooth, seriously amazing battery, and would recommend to ANYONE wanting rock solid AOSP.
Hey everybody!
I found myself with some spare time and would like to flash my D6633 a custom Rom for LB, however there are quite some to choose from.
I am not searching for “the best“, but rather your opinion
What are you using as daily driver and why? What is the most handy feature about the ROM?
Thanks for all suggestions!
I would suggest CyanogenMod since it's been around for a longer time and things always work as they should. I have been using CM12.1 for my Z3 as a daily driver and it's definitely a better experience compared to stock rom.
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I would suggest CyanogenMod since it's been around for a longer time and things always work as they should. I have been using CM12.1 for my Z3 as a daily driver and it's definitely a better experience compared to stock rom.
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This cannot be flashed on a locked bootloader (LB)
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This cannot be flashed on a locked bootloader (LB)
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Sorry I forgot that. I've been playing around with my unlocked Z3 for quite some time and eventually I forgot the bootloader was locked first.
@lokjianming I'll keep cm in mind when I make the jump, but atm I want to keep my DRM functions
If i'm going to be honest, Stock will always be the best, Although Android Marshmallow concept was extremely promising when i had it installed, And if i'm honest i really hope Sony keeps that stock look with those small hints of Sony features, that would be my ideal ROM,
Try the Marshmallow Concept, But let me tell you you will always find yourself coming back to Stock Rom.
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If i'm going to be honest, Stock will always be the best, Although Android Marshmallow concept was extremely promising when i had it installed, And if i'm honest i really hope Sony keeps that stock look with those small hints of Sony features, that would be my ideal ROM,
Try the Marshmallow Concept, But let me tell you you will always find yourself coming back to Stock Rom.
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I can't get concept due to having a D6633, but it looks promising! Did you try out custom stock ROMs by any chance?
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I can't get concept due to having a D6633, but it looks promising! Did you try out custom stock ROMs by any chance?
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Not really no, I'm also on a Locked BootLoader
However i did try MIUI it had amazing battery life and good performance, However i just missed stock android
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Not really no, I'm also on a Locked BootLoader
However i did try MIUI it had amazing battery life and good performance, However i just missed stock android
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I was thinking to flash this or this, but am not yet certain.. Thanks for your opinion on this matter, I also saw MIUI and it looked interesting, but I too would just miss stock android..
With MM based ROMs coming out with enough time for people to get used to them, along with LP and KK based ROMs that have been around for awhile, what are people's favorite S5 ROMs?
Which ones offered the most robust features?
The most stable with limited issues (HD calling, modem issues, wifi calling, accessing data and wifi)?
The best usability and customization?
The most attractive?
The best battery life?
For people coming from a stock android experience (Nexus, Moto, AOSP ROMs), which ROMs let you go back to that? I personally find TW to look atrocious (just a personal opinion) but there are very few TW ROMs that keep the framework intact, but that also let you have the stock experience.
i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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I ended up going with Phoenix for my first one. Being able to use themes is helpful, because I can use a Material based one. But it's very bloated and has a few features that are pointless on the S5, and I'm spending nearly as much time debloating as I would on a Stock ROM.
Vanir does look really nice. I'm kind of worried about issues on not being on a TW ROM though. The is my first time using recoveries and Custom ROMs (Haven't bricked too bad yet), and not sure I'd be able to troubleshoot issues.
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i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
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Great ROM, I wish he would update it!
I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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A lot of the VZW roms out now are being updated or have been updated to MM.
Give Phoenix a try.
I've found that coming from Moto and Nexus devices, TW is just not for me. But for people who are used to it, I think Phoenix is fully featured.
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
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freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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Most CM based ROMs for this device have issues. Hell, most CM based ROMs for any device have issues. For the record, I don't agree with him either, I'm using the NO_BS 5.0 ROM and it's only slightly better than stock...
You could try cyanide for android ROM mm cm13 based ROM for kltevzw
it is an engineer build and crazy super kernel works well on it with kernel auditor mod apk to control kernel
I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
Resurrection Remix Smooth like F ?
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Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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Seems like it. Although, when my banking app had tap to pay built in, I was able to hide root and use it. Now I'm forced to use google pay and I can't get it to work while rooted.
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Avoid stuff like that, will do now harm than good
Also on RR rom, for my banking app I use another app called island. Didn't detect root at all
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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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I've used it, thought it was good. But pretty sure everything is running better on stock. Even with other magisk and EdXposed modules.
I think I am going to go back to RR. I was on it but had an issue with the sound. I flash oos and miss RR already lol
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I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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I have noticed the battery life is amazing. I can use themeing apps to once I get root back I think I'm going to stay on stock rooted international for a while.
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Which kernel are you using?
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Which kernel are you using?
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My favorite has always been elementalx. It's great on every device I've had.
What about resurrection vs crdroid? I Ave been reading on both and both seems stable and good.
I've tried multiple custom roms but keeping coming back to stock, every rom seems to have some kind of functionality missing that the stock rom has, it's not worth it to lose base functionality just to have something different looking.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with Safety Net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration with root apps and have CTS check bypass (kernel level) it should work without a problem like stock/unrooted, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with safety net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration and have Saftey Net CTS check bypass it wont be any problems, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Thanks for your input. I have actually unrooted my device and with a little bit of debloating I am getting the best battery life I have ever had (compared to quite a few custom roms & kernels I have tried out) + I was also able to get GCam with aux lenses, Youtube Vanced and get all the customization I need using Nova Prime Launcher. Really don't see myself coming back to any custom rom, as they tend to have bugs here and there, or have something that simply doesn't work the way it should. Stock everything gives me everything I need from this phone :good: