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i have been using xposed framework and i wonder what if i just keep my phone rooted and stock and just install framework and tweak it the way i want about lock screen , navigation bar etc, what extra advantage these roms will give me , just asking
Only thing i can think of is the kernel, everything else can pretty much be done with xposed.
peachpuff said:
Only thing i can think of is the kernel, everything else can pretty much be done with xposed.
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But you can still flash a Kernel over the Stock ROM...
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0dBu said:
But you can still flash a Kernel over the Stock ROM...
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Right, i mean the question is kinda moot anyway if you're rooted you might as well flash a rom and kernal or just stay with a stock rom.
Honestly this really is a question you need to ask yourself. If having Xposed is able to give you everything you need then stick with it. One thing custom can give you over Xposed mods is the ability to have modifications or fixes to the core of android. For example in the past issues present in the stock Nexus roms have been fixed and released in custom roms before google was able to push out an update to resolve it. Also many more performance enhacements can be done. such ans refactoring code or out right removing uneeded functions. But in the end honestly it just comes down to what works for you.
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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Depends to be honest I myself go with certain roms till I find things that make be mad then I go back to stock for a bit till I find another one so that would be my suggestion
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CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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Battery life (if coupled with custom kernel)
Modifications -- some brilliant mods available -- Battery Icons, Themes, Menu settings etc
Cause you can :good:
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Using a custom Kernel with Stock Rooted and a few Xposed modules can be the same as a custom ROM most of the time though.. So give that a try first.
I have a lot better speed and battery life using Hyperdrive ROM with Beastmode Kernel. All the Touchwiz stuff (pen, etc.) still works, so yeah. Custom ROM > Samsung Bloatware.
I get between 11-14 hours with REALLY heavy use and full screen brightness and overclocked.
CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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I have been trying custom ROM's and Kernels for many years..... I'm yet to find one that's worth the hassle.
Just disable the stock apps/bloatware you don't use and you'll get better { performance/battery life } than any custom ROM.
The only reason to use a custom ROM (IMO) would be for additional (required) functionality like additional fie system support etc.
I have personally had absolutely no good reason for the use of a custom Rom in years !.
I also don't feel like using custom rom over stock, I did many experiments with note one but with note 3 I would stay with stock rom.
Bloat wares are not bothering me, battery life is also decent so in my opinion leaving some extra utilities stock is better
Depends on which custom rom you choose. Some rom are good, nice and stable but others don't.
Sometimes I use custom rom because I wanna remove useless apps installed by carriers. If you find it not a issue, keep the stock one.
So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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Aspl2000 said:
So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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It's not a matter of "need" Hyperdrive has given me better battery life (even after freezing all the bloat) and has a lot of customization. You can do most of it through Xposed, but all the really valuable things are in it already. I never found one I thought was worth it until hyperdrive.
Try one of the ROMs that look interesting, if you like it keep using it. If not, that's what nandroid backups are for.
Aspl2000 said:
So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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If u know how to tweaks it urself, do modification to what u need, no custom rom is needed once u r rooted. Basically, once u r rooted u can do all system changes, IF u know how to.
But, assuming u r new, based on ur post, just grab any custom tom u like nd try.
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Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.
85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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Very good point, I love how responsive my phone is, and I also like the way the stock rom feels and looks. Now I will consider rooting it.
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To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.
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So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?
85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?
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gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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If you are keeping the stock ROM do NOT remove the bloatware if it is a system file. (Most of them are) If you remove them you will not be able to take the OTA updates from your carrier until you restore them. You are better off disabling them or using Titanium Backup to Freeze them. That way they are easily reversed so you can take the OTA update.
gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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titanium back up freeeze/uninstall
I used to crack flash back on my Galaxy Nexus. I had the M8 for about a month before I rooted and S'Offed. I'm hesitant to flash a full custom ROM as of yet because stock plus Xposed is keeping me extremely happy. For me, the Xposed framework and modules is such a great setup because it allows me to pick and choose which tweaks I want.
Was gonna remain stock till I downloaded an xposed mod that messed up my wifi (possibly due to having a feature another xposed module was handling turned on) . Instead of reflashing and adding all the tweaks and flash zip to a stock ROM, I went ahead and flashed cleanrom which is basically debloated with all the tweaks/mods I already previously had and wanted.
Cleanrom plus the xposed modules like sense6 toolbox, gravity box, XSense, etc make staying stock or stock-ish a very glamorous option
Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
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Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
Edit just read the most recent post right after posting this. Oh well. You'll love CleanROM though. Had it for about a month (practically a record for me and roms) and I love it. Gpe is also pretty stable may try that it he future 'cause I heart aosp but other than that I see no reason to use anything but CleanROM
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I think that it was I will try, CleanRom. Thank you for the advice.
I'm loving the GPE rom
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Root It!
The Cyanogenmod nightlies are good - the 6/16 version did not have any problems.
I've always asked to me this thing, because I don't want to install a AOSP ROM, I prefer to stay stock and flash some mods and kernels. It is not possible?
In the case of AOSP roms, the camera has the same quality as the Google's stock roms?
Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Maybe you can try PureNexus, it's so stable and even faster than stock. Same camera quality as stock, even whole UI is same as stock, just some additional features.
BTW you can also flash kernel on stock rom.
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
stefyno said:
Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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Yep, I know I can flash kernels on stock
I ask if is possible made custom roms based on stock, like Samsung...
Pure Nexus is awesome but not based on stock
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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The camera quality is the same as stock. It looks the same as stock, performs better, and you lose zero features. Why are you looking for a stock-based ROM then, is the question?
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I don't really get what you mean. With Samsung you lose a lot of features going from TouchWiz to AOSP. You don't lose any features going from the stock Pixel OS to say PureNexus. It looks the same, has the same features and more, better performance, etc.
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Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
stefyno said:
Great, this is what I mean. Super Nexus = Pixel + mod + better performance. I just wanna the confirm of that! Thanks guys!
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Dude, just root it, enjoy stock if you want and flash a custom kernel. If you decide to venture out, give PN a try.. It is exactly what you're looking for, just an AOSP rom. There is barely any difference between a stock google rom and AOSP.. no one is going to build a stock google rom, it's a waste of time
If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you have an unlocked bootloader, but completely stock ROM does Android Pay work along with OTA updates, or just OTA updates ?
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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If you install one of the custom kernels and don't root the phone it will work. It won't work without the custom kernel though.
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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ah darn ok. Right now I'm just running stock, custom kernel, and SuperSU. I'm not sure if it is just getting older or what, but I haven't felt the need to beyond this with the phone I just got. My Nexuses all are customized, but this is just pretty basic.
The benefit I suppose is even with root and a custom kernel the ROM is still pretty reliable. Other custom ROMs in the past usually would have things come up from time to time. Nonetheless, I'm always thankful for the work the devs do:good:
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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Pure Nexus is as reliable as stock in my opinion. Never had one hiccup.
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I have to agree. Never had a single issue, great battery and smooth as butter.
Yeah I've had stock lock up for me once. Been running PN since January and it's more stable then stock.
Why no one is building of stock ROM no idea. WETA was based on stock, but he stopped development when all the AOSP ROMs came out.
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I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
Resurrection Remix Smooth like F ?
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Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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Seems like it. Although, when my banking app had tap to pay built in, I was able to hide root and use it. Now I'm forced to use google pay and I can't get it to work while rooted.
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Avoid stuff like that, will do now harm than good
Also on RR rom, for my banking app I use another app called island. Didn't detect root at all
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Is No limits Magisk stable?
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I've used it, thought it was good. But pretty sure everything is running better on stock. Even with other magisk and EdXposed modules.
I think I am going to go back to RR. I was on it but had an issue with the sound. I flash oos and miss RR already lol
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I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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I have noticed the battery life is amazing. I can use themeing apps to once I get root back I think I'm going to stay on stock rooted international for a while.
GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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Which kernel are you using?
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Which kernel are you using?
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My favorite has always been elementalx. It's great on every device I've had.
What about resurrection vs crdroid? I Ave been reading on both and both seems stable and good.
I've tried multiple custom roms but keeping coming back to stock, every rom seems to have some kind of functionality missing that the stock rom has, it's not worth it to lose base functionality just to have something different looking.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with Safety Net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration with root apps and have CTS check bypass (kernel level) it should work without a problem like stock/unrooted, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with safety net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration and have Saftey Net CTS check bypass it wont be any problems, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Thanks for your input. I have actually unrooted my device and with a little bit of debloating I am getting the best battery life I have ever had (compared to quite a few custom roms & kernels I have tried out) + I was also able to get GCam with aux lenses, Youtube Vanced and get all the customization I need using Nova Prime Launcher. Really don't see myself coming back to any custom rom, as they tend to have bugs here and there, or have something that simply doesn't work the way it should. Stock everything gives me everything I need from this phone :good: