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Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
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Rawat said:
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That is the power of Facebook and the internet! Let's hope they reach the right decision!
Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
m1r4j91 said:
Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
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Same here man!
You should have seen the **** storm that kicked up on the Facebook page because of it! Amazing to get a response like that, just please make it the correct answer!
If not, things will get worse for them! Haha.
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Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
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fastboot oem unlock plzkthx!
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fastboot oem unlock plzkthx!
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+100000000000000000000000000
Rellikzephyr
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As I've said before, I don't care if it's HTC or a 3rd party, but I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted. If HTC wants to help speed up that process, they speed up the time for when I'll purchase the Sensation.
I was already thinking to get SGS2, but now... Now i'll wait
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And if they offer the crack for their bootloader. It had better be with NO STRINGS. I mean, if I have to give them my device's unique identifier, just so they can keep a list of people they want to deny warranty to, no dice.
I don't see them budging on their policy. Not for any shipped device (sensation, flyer) anyway.
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I don't see them budging on their policy. Not for any shipped device (sensation, flyer) anyway.
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it is possible to unlock on shipped devices
boostedb16b said:
it is possible to unlock on shipped devices
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Exactly. This whole movement didn't start because of something not yet shipped. HTC knows very well this is primarily about the Sensation and then about their other devices to a lesser degree.
HTC and Samsung are in the slug fest and HTC knows the bootloader issue is of concern. HTC will be offering something, for the Sensation at minimum, maybe for other devices too. It just better not have any strings attached.
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Exactly. This whole movement didn't start because of something not yet shipped. HTC knows very well this is primarily about the Sensation and then about their other devices to a lesser degree.
HTC and Samsung are in the slug fest and HTC knows the bootloader issue is of concern. HTC will be offering something, for the Sensation at minimum, maybe for other devices too. It just better not have any strings attached.
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If HTC weren't considering a backtrack on this issue, I don't think we would have seen a post. Why make people hate you even more by getting their hopes up and then dashing them. Again.
Doesn't make things any better for them if they offer a review, and then don't do it. Or maybe I'm just being very optimistic.
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If HTC weren't considering a backtrack on this issue, I don't think we would have seen a post. Why make people hate you even more by getting their hopes up and then dashing them. Again.
Doesn't make things any better for them if they offer a review, and then don't do it. Or maybe I'm just being very optimistic.
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You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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Agreed. Saying nothing and not delivering is ALWAYS better than saying you will think about it, and never delivering!
I see no problem with giving them your phone imei to unlock. Your warned again and again, unlocking bootloader voids warranty, yet everyone still goes forward with it.
I think its only fair to know who is willingly voiding warranty. Provable manufacturer defects surely are arguable
Rellikzephyr
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woot..
this news makes me change my mind to buy iphone.
if unlock i'll buy sensation..
else i'll buy iphone
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You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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I think they are just trying to get your hopes up so that you will purchase the sensation.... the ol' "bait and switch"
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woot..
this news makes me change my mind to buy iphone.
if unlock i'll buy sensation..
else i'll buy iphone
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go get an iphone dude..... it's obviously in your blood so many other android devices to choose from but you want the freaking iphone
Less "reviewing", more unlocking, please.
We must wait and see
members and friends. Better things is we all wait and see what htc gonna do for unlock bootloaders. No need to speedup and please htc new policy. The must is to continue to sign the petitons against htc policy. Keep it up all friends, members................
Firing a letter off to HTC RE 4 failed repairs of my HTC sensation
Going to send to their Slough office
who is the boss of HTC Europe to title the letter to ?
I am
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I am
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And im his boss!
What do you want?
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And im his boss!
What do you want?
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NO
:banghead:
Found out who the boss of htc uk and Ireland is
Sent a letter re the 4 failed attempts to fix my sensation and that I'm not happy about being offered a bitsa sensation built from spares
Not all brand new.
cirian75 said:
Firing a letter off to HTC RE 4 failed repairs of my HTC sensation
Going to send to their Slough office
who is the boss of HTC Europe to title the letter to ?
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Take it up with the retailer you bought the phone from. They actually have a legal responsibility to put it right while HTC just have a bit of paper that says they will repair certain faults without charge but have no legal responsibility to actually have to do anything.
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Take it up with the retailer you bought the phone from. They actually have a legal responsibility to put it right while HTC just have a bit of paper that says they will repair certain faults without charge but have no legal responsibility to actually have to do anything.
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2nd hard phone bought privately, but still has 11 months of its HTC 24 month warranty left.
4 failed attempts to fix it is a joke.
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2nd hard phone bought privately.
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ah I feared that may have been the case
With 4 failed repairs I don't think it would be unreasonable to request a replacement phone (not new)
The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy
HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Sure hope your right so everyone can enjoy the total experience of the one x.
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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.
Hopefully she heard this from an official source and isn't speculating. But this is a little reassuring.
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"just hang on something is coming"
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Maybe I'm jaded, and but I'm more likely that something will come from the community before it will come from at&t.
CheesyNutz said:
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Is she hot? Single?
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I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.
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I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.
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Most reps on phone are reading from a script.
yes i was pretty shocked that she new what a bootloader was lol. she pulled out her NOTE and was running CM10 . she said she knows a thing or 2 about bootloaders and roms lol
Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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Perhaps a psycholigical move to get you to pass on motivation to potential customers. Increase sales. Hopefully im wrong but a lot of people in higher up positions had their tricks to earn them that spot
Real good info tho! This would be phenominal if at&t gave htc permission to unlock THEIR bootloaders
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Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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no, phones sales is how i pay my house payment
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no phones sales is how i pay my house payment
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Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales
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Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales
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lol truth
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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.
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That sounds about right
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I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I understand that you are upset about not being able to unlock the bootloader on your device.
As is stated on the developer website:
“HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator (carrier) restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices.”
I’m sorry, but this is outside of our control.
Connie Sullivan
Customer Service Specialist
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I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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The executive replied?
Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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I ran into roughly the same thing with AT&T and the Skyrocket. AT&T/Samsung wouldn't give out unlock codes, kernel source, do anything for the dev community until the initial exclusivity period was over. Afterwards it was business as normal.
I'd imagine that the HOX is going to be the same. Once something "else" comes out, and the HOX isn't "one of the phones to have", they'll loosen the restrictions and will let us do what we want.
The Galaxy S3 is a bit different. It's not really "exclusive" to any carrier in the sense the Skyrocket was, so they probably had to change tactics a bit.
I also work for att. I haven't heard officially about the boot loader being unlocked, but the htc rep was in the store the other day dropping off signs for our HOX display and when I asked about it he said from what he has heard from people above him something was in the works to be able to unlock it, but he also stated nothing is official at this point.
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Yeah, that's what our HTC rep said, as well. Nothing official or solid, just rumblings from within the higher-ups at HTC.
Hello,
I have one HTC Desire S, already s-OFF.
Now i´m searching for SIM unlock, but i see too much stuff that i´m confused...
I need to know what thread i can get unlock sim...
Regards
prootc1 said:
Hello,
I have one HTC Desire S, already s-OFF.
Now i´m searching for SIM unlock, but i see too much stuff that i´m confused...
I need to know what thread i can get unlock sim...
Regards
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i need to pay for it?
Yes
aarlene said:
Hi,
You can unlock your HTC Desire s using unlock code. Contact your service provider and get the unlock code from them, if it's not possible, then get it from online sites. ... is where i unlocked my phone, Check it out!! Hope this helps you!!
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Reported. Stop peddling your commercial links here.
Despite the commercial link, it was a good advice to ask the carrier for unlock code. In France, for example, you can get it for free thanks a recent law.
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I really wonder how many Desire S users have unlocked their phone and by which method. As a tech-savvy user I "discard" my phone after the contract because it's dated (it's quite a horrible thing, I know) so I propably won't.
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I really wonder how many Desire S users have unlocked their phone and by which method. As a tech-savvy user I "discard" my phone after the contract because it's dated (it's quite a horrible thing, I know) so I propably won't.
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That's just mad nowadays. With 'normal' phones then maybe, but if you look after a phone like a DS then it will still be worth between $150-200 at the end of two years.
I completely agree. I chose an Android phone just because I hoped that I could get community support after two years.
Moreover, our phones are basically computers now. And I don't change my computer every two years thanks to GNU/Linux
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Well, discarding isn't the right word. I either upgrade my pc or sell it and buy a new one after every two year or so, but as phones are not as modular there isn't really any other thing I can do except sell it and get a new one after two years. If it were possible to get a new monitor for my desire S I'd be more than happy to
edit: besides, a rectangular area of about 10% of my touchscreen is broken. I can only manage with that for so long