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Ok I just got a random call from some guy from HTC, said his name was Eric but would not give a last name. He wanted to "follow up" on me saying I was unhappy about the whole S-Off/Bootloader thing. I he kept skirting the question of "Are we going to get out bootloaders unlocked or not?" He finally told me that they were waiting on Corporate to let "Them" know WHEN they would be unlocked, so I asked him to confirm that he just said at some point they would be unlocked, and he back tracked really fast and said IF they would be unlocked, and his dept. did not expect to know anything for a "month or two", but HTC was watching Twitter and Facebook and know the customers are unhappy, and they strive to make thier customers happy...yada ..yada..yada....I told him at this point a simple Yes or No would make me happy, but we all know I didn't get that either. So has anyone else got a call from "Eric" or one of his friends over at HTC? Maybe if they work together they can find thier asses from a hole in the ground!
I honestly feel bad for Eric. Low level outbound call center representative. His whole job is centered around contacting angry customers and trying to pacify their concerns without giving straight answers (which he probably doesn't even truly have).
I'm glad you didn't claim to tear him a new asshole or anything. Bottom line, let's hope the bootloaders are unlocked soon and Eric can take a breather right along with us.
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No actually I was very nice to him. I even told him I was frustrated at the situation and NOT at him and I felt bad for him too. I think it is a shame HTC has hung these poor people out to dry with no real answers for anyone. I really would hate to have his job right now.
Well that's good! Although when I worked in a call center, if the person I was taking to sounded like a cute girl, it made my job so much better
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I don't believe that they will open the bootloader
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It's been now almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Hi Chaps,
I've been having an issue with the signal on my phone, am now on my 4th Sensation..
I was on the phone to a really helpful chap at HTC and we were discussing exchanging my vodafone branded handset for an unbranded one (was never going to happen) but then I asked about rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
He went and had a chat with a colleague and came back and said that when the bootloader is unlocked, I will be able to flash the non branded firmware.
Rooting will void warranty, but flashing another firmware will be fine.
He confirmed this with another colleague, but as far as I can see, we will DEFINITELY get unlocked bootloader.
He didn't know when, but he didn't feel it would be too long to wait now!
Sorry for the off topic - though it is related...
I received a call from HTC from leaving a negative review from a survey they sent to me regarding an email I received from customer support. Basically said the same thing about the bootloader but did know about the temporary root for the Sensation. I guess that they are watching the dev. forum.
paulmor said:
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It's been know almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are just not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Of course they know what to do. They knew since day one. It's their device and their bootloader. IMO the problem are the carriers. HTC knows that people are unhappy with the locked bootloader policy and that they have to give their customers what they want or else there will be consequences. But on the other hand they have to keep the carriers happy. I believe they will leak the way and let the devs do the rest
Same here! I have faith that they will figure it out. )
No not off topic really. I was just really shocked when I got the call from HTC. I really did not expect to hear from them. Like I said I felt bad for the guy, but I feel that they should at least give us a yes or no. For that I have lost alot of faith in the company.
Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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I received a call from a Gordon, and some girl on two seperate occasions. They are in my voicemail ...was planning to call them back.
Anyways, these were for my Mytough4g complaint, fwiw.
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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Well at least someone else got calls and emails...was about to think my new phone had generated me a stalker! lol
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The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Uhhh....? I think you need to re-read his post... He said the exact same thing you just did..
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Really Need the Tmobile Htc one S 1.84 Ruu. Am getting error 155 with the 1.53 ruu since the bootloader was upgraded withe the 1.84 ota. Phone is bricked right now
If you p/m football he has it. It will require a donation though.
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Not to be a poor sport but I would think maybe HTC and Google would have a problem with someone wanting a "donation" for their RUU. That's also not very XDA friendly.
I don't think a donation is required (but good if you can spare a few $ for any devs)
I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...
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The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...
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Looking for 1.84.
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Looking for 1.84.
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Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.
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Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.
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Here's the thing, he can get it, you can't, it is what it is. He's taking legal risk by distributing proprietary, closed source software, owned solely by HTC. If you want that risk to be worth it to him you gotta make it worth his while. I don't like it either, but I understand. I mean we all know HTC has no problem with c&d letters, legal threats, and possibly even actions.
If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.
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If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.
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How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.
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How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.
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Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.
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Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.
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Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.
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Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.
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Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.
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Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.
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I doubt you have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community. If not you are worse than the user you are complaining about. I have the update zip too, it's widely available, but if you want the RUU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go
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Seems to be pretty clear that you are just *****ing and morning and no you don't have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community, but you haven't, and you won't. I have the update zip too, so congrats, but if you want the RU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go
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Thanks dad...
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Thanks dad...
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Most welcome, son.
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Looking for 1.84.
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I just loaded Axiom's Rom which is 1.84, working good so far. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709379
well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.
s10shane said:
well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.
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well thats good, but errr failfactory...never seem to have slots for free users...lol
The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
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HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Sure hope your right so everyone can enjoy the total experience of the one x.
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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.
Hopefully she heard this from an official source and isn't speculating. But this is a little reassuring.
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"just hang on something is coming"
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Maybe I'm jaded, and but I'm more likely that something will come from the community before it will come from at&t.
CheesyNutz said:
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Is she hot? Single?
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I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.
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I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.
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Most reps on phone are reading from a script.
yes i was pretty shocked that she new what a bootloader was lol. she pulled out her NOTE and was running CM10 . she said she knows a thing or 2 about bootloaders and roms lol
Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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Perhaps a psycholigical move to get you to pass on motivation to potential customers. Increase sales. Hopefully im wrong but a lot of people in higher up positions had their tricks to earn them that spot
Real good info tho! This would be phenominal if at&t gave htc permission to unlock THEIR bootloaders
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Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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no, phones sales is how i pay my house payment
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no phones sales is how i pay my house payment
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Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales
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Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales
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lol truth
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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.
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That sounds about right
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I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I understand that you are upset about not being able to unlock the bootloader on your device.
As is stated on the developer website:
“HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator (carrier) restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices.”
I’m sorry, but this is outside of our control.
Connie Sullivan
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I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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The executive replied?
Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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I ran into roughly the same thing with AT&T and the Skyrocket. AT&T/Samsung wouldn't give out unlock codes, kernel source, do anything for the dev community until the initial exclusivity period was over. Afterwards it was business as normal.
I'd imagine that the HOX is going to be the same. Once something "else" comes out, and the HOX isn't "one of the phones to have", they'll loosen the restrictions and will let us do what we want.
The Galaxy S3 is a bit different. It's not really "exclusive" to any carrier in the sense the Skyrocket was, so they probably had to change tactics a bit.
I also work for att. I haven't heard officially about the boot loader being unlocked, but the htc rep was in the store the other day dropping off signs for our HOX display and when I asked about it he said from what he has heard from people above him something was in the works to be able to unlock it, but he also stated nothing is official at this point.
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Yeah, that's what our HTC rep said, as well. Nothing official or solid, just rumblings from within the higher-ups at HTC.
Hi,
So my Sesation is locked to t-mobile, and I can't find the unlock code, it is not in any file such as mmcblk0p6, etc..
Its S/N is an HT one, so I can't understand where it could be.
Thanks for suggestions.
lokiju said:
Hi,
So my Sesation is locked to t-mobile, and I can't find the unlock code, it is not in any file such as mmcblk0p6, etc..
Its S/N is an HT one, so I can't understand where it could be.
Thanks for suggestions.
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have you seen this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
rzr86 said:
have you seen this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
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Yes, already tried
lokiju said:
Yes, already tried
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http://www.2shared.com/file/Mg7PsSqe/PG58DIAG.html download this put on SD and flash from bootloader
If you are in the US, DON'T Sim unlock your phone because it is already illegal. Started just last Saturday. The only way you can unlock it legally is to ask the carrier that sold you the phone.
Stupid law maker
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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AndroidNeophyte said:
If you are in the US, DON'T Sim unlock your phone because it is already illegal. Started just last Saturday. The only way you can unlock it legally is to ask the carrier that sold you the phone.
Stupid law maker
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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Only if you bought your phone after October 12th if I'm not mistaken. Bought before then I think its still ok to unlock. Research this first before you try something potentially illegal.
icanttinkofaname said:
Only if you bought your phone after October 12th if I'm not mistaken. Bought before then I think its still ok to unlock. Research this first before you try something potentially illegal.
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Not to mention that this law is HIGHLY likely to be overturned on appeal as soon as any lawyer worth his salt gets a hold of the case.
The DMCA was designed for a completely different purpose that can't even remotely be connected with the locked status of a cell phone. It's an easy appeal. Someone just has to appeal it.
Skipjacks said:
Not to mention that this law is HIGHLY likely to be overturned on appeal as soon as any lawyer worth his salt gets a hold of the case.
The DMCA was designed for a completely different purpose that can't even remotely be connected with the locked status of a cell phone. It's an easy appeal. Someone just has to appeal it.
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I sure hope so. They implement this to protect copyright infringement. I might be missing something but I don't see the connection between copyright protection and Sim unlock. Law makers just jump on a decision just to show they are doing something even if it doesn't make sense.
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AndroidNeophyte said:
I sure hope so. They implement this to protect copyright infringement. I might be missing something but I don't see the connection between copyright protection and Sim unlock. Law makers just jump on a decision just to show they are doing something even if it doesn't make sense.
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It has nothing to do with copywrite infringement.
And lawmakers didn't even do this one.
It was the Library of Congress who suddenly decided that Sim Unlocking should not be exempt from the DMCA.
The whole thing WREAKS of the mobile carriers influencing an unelected policy maker to basically create self serving laws that didn't exist prior.
Resolved, did S-OFF with Juopunutbear and flashed PG58DIAG here.
Basically S-OFF and "method 2" from the tutorial posted above.
If someone has this problem: you have to be S-OFF to flash PG58DIAG. It is not specified in the tutorial. Unlocked bootloader and root are not enough.
Thanks to all.