Really Need the Tmobile Htc one S 1.84 Ruu. Am getting error 155 with the 1.53 ruu since the bootloader was upgraded withe the 1.84 ota. Phone is bricked right now
If you p/m football he has it. It will require a donation though.
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Not to be a poor sport but I would think maybe HTC and Google would have a problem with someone wanting a "donation" for their RUU. That's also not very XDA friendly.
I don't think a donation is required (but good if you can spare a few $ for any devs)
I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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Simco80 said:
I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...
thuddome said:
The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...
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Looking for 1.84.
Zolor23 said:
Looking for 1.84.
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Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.
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Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.
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Here's the thing, he can get it, you can't, it is what it is. He's taking legal risk by distributing proprietary, closed source software, owned solely by HTC. If you want that risk to be worth it to him you gotta make it worth his while. I don't like it either, but I understand. I mean we all know HTC has no problem with c&d letters, legal threats, and possibly even actions.
If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.
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If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.
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How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.
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How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.
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Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.
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Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.
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Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.
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Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.
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Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.
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Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.
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I doubt you have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community. If not you are worse than the user you are complaining about. I have the update zip too, it's widely available, but if you want the RUU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go
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Seems to be pretty clear that you are just *****ing and morning and no you don't have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community, but you haven't, and you won't. I have the update zip too, so congrats, but if you want the RU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go
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Thanks dad...
thuddome said:
Thanks dad...
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Most welcome, son.
Zolor23 said:
Looking for 1.84.
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I just loaded Axiom's Rom which is 1.84, working good so far. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709379
well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.
s10shane said:
well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.
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well thats good, but errr failfactory...never seem to have slots for free users...lol
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So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
TC,
No worries mate. It's BS, he's just looking to spook you, or he/she is a complete idiot of a rep. They can't fine you for it. You own the phone, not them (unless you're on some sort of a lease agreement contract I'm not aware of).
The most they'd do is just return the phone to you or something.
Cheers.
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So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
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how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
leco said:
how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
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By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
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By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
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TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
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Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate your kindness and time, and hope you have a wonderful day.
OMGAHAHAHAHAH
Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
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Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
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Well at least we've got you guys =P
Do you have 'Accident' insurance?
Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
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Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
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Even if it's bricked?
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Even if it's bricked?
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TC,
I wouldn't be surprised. You know how a damaged hard drive can be rendered inaccessible to the average joe? And how there are data-recovery companies that can somehow still get data back for you?
I'm pretty sure they can tell. If that's the case, like I've said before, it's really your call if you want to purchase a new phone or buy a second hand rooted one in the marketplace.
Cheers.
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Even if it's bricked?
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It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
Good luck for you and take easy.
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Ho ,really sorry sorry links,links!
FloatingFatMan said:
It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
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aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
LMFAO! That guy needs to get his ass kicked! You can turn your device in a custom ROM server and the only thing they can do is return it to you without repairing it. Nothing more. Ha! What ...... .... that rep must be. ........ ... ...... ..... haha!
If they catch you with a custom ROM, you would have to pay for the repair yourself, but that is normal. I never, NEVER, go to official repair shops. I just go to any repair centre and pay the price for the repair. Saves me a lot of nerves lol.
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aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
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It's not difficult, but you can't do it from home because it requires dedicated hardware to connect directly to the phone's main board.
How do you think they flash these things in the first place, hmm? They sure as hell don't run the same type of flashing process that we do!
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
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That is the power of Facebook and the internet! Let's hope they reach the right decision!
Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
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Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
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Same here man!
You should have seen the **** storm that kicked up on the Facebook page because of it! Amazing to get a response like that, just please make it the correct answer!
If not, things will get worse for them! Haha.
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Hopefully they do let the end user decide...
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fastboot oem unlock plzkthx!
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fastboot oem unlock plzkthx!
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Rellikzephyr
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As I've said before, I don't care if it's HTC or a 3rd party, but I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted. If HTC wants to help speed up that process, they speed up the time for when I'll purchase the Sensation.
I was already thinking to get SGS2, but now... Now i'll wait
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And if they offer the crack for their bootloader. It had better be with NO STRINGS. I mean, if I have to give them my device's unique identifier, just so they can keep a list of people they want to deny warranty to, no dice.
I don't see them budging on their policy. Not for any shipped device (sensation, flyer) anyway.
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I don't see them budging on their policy. Not for any shipped device (sensation, flyer) anyway.
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it is possible to unlock on shipped devices
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Exactly. This whole movement didn't start because of something not yet shipped. HTC knows very well this is primarily about the Sensation and then about their other devices to a lesser degree.
HTC and Samsung are in the slug fest and HTC knows the bootloader issue is of concern. HTC will be offering something, for the Sensation at minimum, maybe for other devices too. It just better not have any strings attached.
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Exactly. This whole movement didn't start because of something not yet shipped. HTC knows very well this is primarily about the Sensation and then about their other devices to a lesser degree.
HTC and Samsung are in the slug fest and HTC knows the bootloader issue is of concern. HTC will be offering something, for the Sensation at minimum, maybe for other devices too. It just better not have any strings attached.
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If HTC weren't considering a backtrack on this issue, I don't think we would have seen a post. Why make people hate you even more by getting their hopes up and then dashing them. Again.
Doesn't make things any better for them if they offer a review, and then don't do it. Or maybe I'm just being very optimistic.
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If HTC weren't considering a backtrack on this issue, I don't think we would have seen a post. Why make people hate you even more by getting their hopes up and then dashing them. Again.
Doesn't make things any better for them if they offer a review, and then don't do it. Or maybe I'm just being very optimistic.
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You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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Agreed. Saying nothing and not delivering is ALWAYS better than saying you will think about it, and never delivering!
I see no problem with giving them your phone imei to unlock. Your warned again and again, unlocking bootloader voids warranty, yet everyone still goes forward with it.
I think its only fair to know who is willingly voiding warranty. Provable manufacturer defects surely are arguable
Rellikzephyr
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woot..
this news makes me change my mind to buy iphone.
if unlock i'll buy sensation..
else i'll buy iphone
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're correct. If they did anything but offer a crack for the Sensation at this point, it would only make matters far worse for them.
By making the post they've tipped their hand that something is coming. If they don't deliver something it will be far worse a backlash than if they never said anything.
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I think they are just trying to get your hopes up so that you will purchase the sensation.... the ol' "bait and switch"
king_elino said:
woot..
this news makes me change my mind to buy iphone.
if unlock i'll buy sensation..
else i'll buy iphone
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go get an iphone dude..... it's obviously in your blood so many other android devices to choose from but you want the freaking iphone
Less "reviewing", more unlocking, please.
We must wait and see
members and friends. Better things is we all wait and see what htc gonna do for unlock bootloaders. No need to speedup and please htc new policy. The must is to continue to sign the petitons against htc policy. Keep it up all friends, members................
Ok I just got a random call from some guy from HTC, said his name was Eric but would not give a last name. He wanted to "follow up" on me saying I was unhappy about the whole S-Off/Bootloader thing. I he kept skirting the question of "Are we going to get out bootloaders unlocked or not?" He finally told me that they were waiting on Corporate to let "Them" know WHEN they would be unlocked, so I asked him to confirm that he just said at some point they would be unlocked, and he back tracked really fast and said IF they would be unlocked, and his dept. did not expect to know anything for a "month or two", but HTC was watching Twitter and Facebook and know the customers are unhappy, and they strive to make thier customers happy...yada ..yada..yada....I told him at this point a simple Yes or No would make me happy, but we all know I didn't get that either. So has anyone else got a call from "Eric" or one of his friends over at HTC? Maybe if they work together they can find thier asses from a hole in the ground!
I honestly feel bad for Eric. Low level outbound call center representative. His whole job is centered around contacting angry customers and trying to pacify their concerns without giving straight answers (which he probably doesn't even truly have).
I'm glad you didn't claim to tear him a new asshole or anything. Bottom line, let's hope the bootloaders are unlocked soon and Eric can take a breather right along with us.
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No actually I was very nice to him. I even told him I was frustrated at the situation and NOT at him and I felt bad for him too. I think it is a shame HTC has hung these poor people out to dry with no real answers for anyone. I really would hate to have his job right now.
Well that's good! Although when I worked in a call center, if the person I was taking to sounded like a cute girl, it made my job so much better
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I don't believe that they will open the bootloader
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It's been now almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Hi Chaps,
I've been having an issue with the signal on my phone, am now on my 4th Sensation..
I was on the phone to a really helpful chap at HTC and we were discussing exchanging my vodafone branded handset for an unbranded one (was never going to happen) but then I asked about rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
He went and had a chat with a colleague and came back and said that when the bootloader is unlocked, I will be able to flash the non branded firmware.
Rooting will void warranty, but flashing another firmware will be fine.
He confirmed this with another colleague, but as far as I can see, we will DEFINITELY get unlocked bootloader.
He didn't know when, but he didn't feel it would be too long to wait now!
Sorry for the off topic - though it is related...
I received a call from HTC from leaving a negative review from a survey they sent to me regarding an email I received from customer support. Basically said the same thing about the bootloader but did know about the temporary root for the Sensation. I guess that they are watching the dev. forum.
paulmor said:
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It's been know almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are just not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Of course they know what to do. They knew since day one. It's their device and their bootloader. IMO the problem are the carriers. HTC knows that people are unhappy with the locked bootloader policy and that they have to give their customers what they want or else there will be consequences. But on the other hand they have to keep the carriers happy. I believe they will leak the way and let the devs do the rest
Same here! I have faith that they will figure it out. )
No not off topic really. I was just really shocked when I got the call from HTC. I really did not expect to hear from them. Like I said I felt bad for the guy, but I feel that they should at least give us a yes or no. For that I have lost alot of faith in the company.
Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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I received a call from a Gordon, and some girl on two seperate occasions. They are in my voicemail ...was planning to call them back.
Anyways, these were for my Mytough4g complaint, fwiw.
Towle said:
Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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Well at least someone else got calls and emails...was about to think my new phone had generated me a stalker! lol
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The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Uhhh....? I think you need to re-read his post... He said the exact same thing you just did..
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[Q] exchanging phone @ AT&T hoping to get one without 1.85; any experience with this?
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
1.85 hasn't been released... can't see how you'd end up with one.
So you know the risks of using a leaked ruu. Why not just wait for root for 1.85 or a official update ruu?
Nothing is wrong with your device
Why would you need to return it? If being on 1.85 is the only issue, why not wait it out? I can't see why this is a problem that would require an exchange...
If you are not experiencing any problems other than being on 1.85 I would suggest u keep the phone. There is a very good possibility you could end up with a phone that has issues like the one I have and several others have had. Not only that but u flashed it to your phone so why make the carrier pay for something u did.
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meccanikal said:
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
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I'm stuck on 1.85 also. The phone runs fine and I can wait for the root.
I'm just curious, what were you going to tell them to convince them to exchange your phone with 1.85 for a stock phone?
Mike
I just took mine to the AT&T store half an hour ago. Since it was finally released from customs they said it should be in stock this week. They let me hold onto the phone and said even if I have to keep it past the 30 days they'll replace it anyway. They said there's a possibility of it being in stock tomorrow, so if I replace it then, I'll let you know.
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
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I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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Agreed.
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Zabalba said:
My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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Your ad hominem attack doesn't do anything to make my point less valid. There is a difference between AT&T locking out things like data tethering (which is stupid) and HTC voiding warranties for bootloader unlocking, which is their prerogative. As an electronics manufacturer who incurs cost every time they accept a warranty return, it makes perfect sense to have a system which allows them to track who has unlocked the bootloader.
As a community of modders, I like to think that we all can accept that we are taking the warranty into our own hands when we modify the device in ways it was not intended to be used.
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I've been trying for a couple weeks to get mine swapped, both because of 1.85 and because of connection problems.. I just called a store and they said to call tomorrow (31st day since purchase) to see if they have any, and that they would be willing to work with the circumstances... But if you are swapping for no other issue I'm not sure how they'll like that.
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What's the holdup and what can we do about it?
It's been pointed out that as the owners of this device it's up to us to enforce the GPL.
Does anyone know how to go about applying pressure to HTC?
Anyone a member of EFF.org? I'm getting sick of feeling like HTC's bastard child.
Yeah, WTH.
I feel there's gotta be a reason. They can't just be ignoring us out of laziness... can they? I think I read somewhere that they could take up to 180 days, which seems ridiculous. It's only been 70 or something like that. In Canada anyway... it was released on 4/20.
I guess would could bombard them with phone calls and emails, but I'm sure that won't make much difference.
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What's the holdup and what can we do about it?
It's been pointed out that as the owners of this device it's up to us to enforce the GPL.
Does anyone know how to go about applying pressure to HTC?
Anyone a member of EFF.org? I'm getting sick of feeling like HTC's bastard child.
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Surely AT&T has something to do with it, and if that's the case, a letter from xda isn't likely to move them.
Also, they aren't yet in breach, yet, right? The phone hasn't been out two months.
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Yeah, WTH.
I feel there's gotta be a reason. They can't just be ignoring us out of laziness... can they? I think I read somewhere that they could take up to 180 days, which seems ridiculous. It's only been 70 or something like that. In Canada anyway... it was released on 4/20.
I guess would could bombard them with phone calls and emails, but I'm sure that won't make much difference.
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their typical canned response is they release within 60-90 days of device release. We're over 60 and approaching 90 for the Rogers phone
Considering AT&T had HTC lock down the bootloader, I'm sure they have also asked them to hold out on releasing source for as long as they possibly can. That is the only explanation I can think of.
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Surely AT&T has something to do with it, and if that's the case, a letter from xda isn't likely to move them.
Also, they aren't yet in breach, yet, right? The phone hasn't been out two months.
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If AT&T was controlling it, then explain why the source for the SGS III is out already.
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Considering AT&T had HTC lock down the bootloader, I'm sure they have also asked them to hold out on releasing source for as long as they possibly can. That is the only explanation I can think of.
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That is my guess as well.
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If AT&T was controlling it, then explain why the source for the SGS III is out already.
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Edit: SGS3 isn't an AT&T exclusive...
AT&T is only one carrier selling the phone and the GPL is international, not just a US thing.
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AT&T is only one carrier selling the phone and the GPL is international, not just a US thing.
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Well, who else has the XL? Rogers, Telus, and Telstra? Their combined market cap is less than 1/10 of AT&T's...
My guess has been they don't want to give Apple any ammo to fight them with. So they're holding out as long as possible.
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Well, who else has the XL? Rogers, Telus, and Telstra? Their combined market cap is less than 1/10 of AT&T's...
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that doesn't matter. AT&T is not in control of enforcement of GPL. They don't own the code in question. AT&t isn't the culprit here I'm sure of it.
Samsung has always been much faster with source code release.
Yeah AT&T is an evil greedy company who doesn't give 2 ****s about their customers, but I'm not blaming them for this.
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that doesn't matter. AT&T is not in control of enforcement of GPL. They don't own the code in question. AT&t isn't the culprit here I'm sure of it.
Samsung has always been much faster with source code release.
Yeah AT&T is an evil greedy company who doesn't give 2 ****s about their customers, but I'm not blaming them for this.
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I do blame them for the BL being locked while Sammy doesn't care. HTC needs ATT more than ATT needs HTC. Samsung I'm not so sure it works that way.
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that doesn't matter. AT&T is not in control of enforcement of GPL. They don't own the code in question. AT&t isn't the culprit here I'm sure of it.
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I do blame them for the BL being locked while Sammy doesn't care. HTC needs ATT more than ATT needs HTC. Samsung I'm not so sure it works that way.
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Well, we're all just speculating here. I'm just saying... AT&T is the only carrier to have them lock the BL ... and they've got the weight to lean on HTC to hold the source as long as possible.
Samsung has leverage HTC does not, as the Galaxy line is in enough demand that they don't need to give in to these kinds of requests.
Okay. I was going to open a new thread about this. But this is easier. Plus no new crazy thread. Subjects would be the same.
I do have a lawyer already on this. You can pm me for stuff if you want it I don't want to get his offices flooded. He wrote a lot of the commerce laws and sales laws the state of California follows today. He's also on the commerce board here in California.
The reason why my lawyer is on this is because of AT&T and their crap between a supervisor/manager and I.
Through a discovery phase;
HTC and AT&T know and are working on the SIM card issue. Yellow screen LCD display (sharps fault). The phone is Gorilla Glass. Not gorilla glass 2. And source will be released 4th of July weekend.
There's little bits of info I know that's proprietary which I can't publically post but is nice to know. Such as a device refresh time with AT&T on the one X**.
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that doesn't matter. AT&T is not in control of enforcement of GPL. They don't own the code in question. AT&t isn't the culprit here I'm sure of it.
Samsung has always been much faster with source code release.
Yeah AT&T is an evil greedy company who doesn't give 2 ****s about their customers, but I'm not blaming them for this.
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Source hold up is caused by Samsung and HTC, not AT&T and HTC. It deals with an agreement they have concerning memory/ram components.
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Interesting.
dkirchik said:
Okay. I was going to open a new thread about this. But this is easier. Plus no new crazy thread. Subjects would be the same.
I do have a lawyer already on this. You can pm me for stuff if you want it I don't want to get his offices flooded. He wrote a lot of the commerce laws and sales laws the state of California follows today. He's also on the commerce board here in California.
The reason why my lawyer is on this is because of AT&T and their crap between a supervisor/manager and I.
Through a discovery phase;
HTC and AT&T know and are working on the SIM card issue. Yellow screen LCD display (sharps fault). The phone is Gorilla Glass. Not gorilla glass 2. And source will be released 4th of July weekend.
There's little bits of info I know that's proprietary which I can't publically post but is nice to know. Such as a device refresh time with AT&T on the one X**.
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Whenever there is a discussion about source being released someone always says they're talking to a friend who's a lawyer and I always laugh a little inside.
This time seems to be different and I hope so, but when is July 4th weekend? This weekend or the next?
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Whenever there is a discussion about source being released someone always says they're talking to a friend who's a lawyer and I always laugh a little inside.
This time seems to be different and I hope so, but when is July 4th weekend? This weekend or the next?
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Its next Wednesday. But the second is a Monday.
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I got really pissed and sent them this, I believe it is my 7th "comment" to them. I would have made it longer but I ran out of charachters. Does anyone know where I can talk to someone from HTC directly? I need to vent and/or use some choice words.
Anyway, here is the "comment"
I'm sick of HTC trying to dance around this issue. Tell me why this site was created. It certainly is not to give developers and the modding community what they want. If you did that, there would be kernel source code for devices such as the HTC One XL. I am a kernel developer and I own the HTC One XL. I bought this device, thinking that I could create custom kernels for it, and I would learn more about it. I bought this device, knowing that HTC would post the source code, unlike some of your competitors. So far that has not happened. It has been almost two months since the HTC One XL was released.
What am I looking for, you ask? I am looking for HTC to uphold its promise that they would aid the modding community in whatever way possible. I have time and time again seen the response 90-120 days, but I know that it isn't true. There is nothing stopping you from releasing the source now. Give me a definite answer. When will it be released? All the community wants is a definite answer.
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rohan32 said:
I got really pissed and sent them this, I believe it is my 7th "comment" to them. I would have made it longer but I ran out of charachters. Does anyone know where I can talk to someone from HTC directly? I need to vent and/or use some choice words.
Anyway, here is the "comment"
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Only problem is that the One XL was released more than two months ago.