Ok I just got a random call from some guy from HTC, said his name was Eric but would not give a last name. He wanted to "follow up" on me saying I was unhappy about the whole S-Off/Bootloader thing. I he kept skirting the question of "Are we going to get out bootloaders unlocked or not?" He finally told me that they were waiting on Corporate to let "Them" know WHEN they would be unlocked, so I asked him to confirm that he just said at some point they would be unlocked, and he back tracked really fast and said IF they would be unlocked, and his dept. did not expect to know anything for a "month or two", but HTC was watching Twitter and Facebook and know the customers are unhappy, and they strive to make thier customers happy...yada ..yada..yada....I told him at this point a simple Yes or No would make me happy, but we all know I didn't get that either. So has anyone else got a call from "Eric" or one of his friends over at HTC? Maybe if they work together they can find thier asses from a hole in the ground!
I honestly feel bad for Eric. Low level outbound call center representative. His whole job is centered around contacting angry customers and trying to pacify their concerns without giving straight answers (which he probably doesn't even truly have).
I'm glad you didn't claim to tear him a new asshole or anything. Bottom line, let's hope the bootloaders are unlocked soon and Eric can take a breather right along with us.
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No actually I was very nice to him. I even told him I was frustrated at the situation and NOT at him and I felt bad for him too. I think it is a shame HTC has hung these poor people out to dry with no real answers for anyone. I really would hate to have his job right now.
Well that's good! Although when I worked in a call center, if the person I was taking to sounded like a cute girl, it made my job so much better
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I don't believe that they will open the bootloader
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It's been now almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Hi Chaps,
I've been having an issue with the signal on my phone, am now on my 4th Sensation..
I was on the phone to a really helpful chap at HTC and we were discussing exchanging my vodafone branded handset for an unbranded one (was never going to happen) but then I asked about rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
He went and had a chat with a colleague and came back and said that when the bootloader is unlocked, I will be able to flash the non branded firmware.
Rooting will void warranty, but flashing another firmware will be fine.
He confirmed this with another colleague, but as far as I can see, we will DEFINITELY get unlocked bootloader.
He didn't know when, but he didn't feel it would be too long to wait now!
Sorry for the off topic - though it is related...
I received a call from HTC from leaving a negative review from a survey they sent to me regarding an email I received from customer support. Basically said the same thing about the bootloader but did know about the temporary root for the Sensation. I guess that they are watching the dev. forum.
paulmor said:
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It's been know almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are just not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Of course they know what to do. They knew since day one. It's their device and their bootloader. IMO the problem are the carriers. HTC knows that people are unhappy with the locked bootloader policy and that they have to give their customers what they want or else there will be consequences. But on the other hand they have to keep the carriers happy. I believe they will leak the way and let the devs do the rest
Same here! I have faith that they will figure it out. )
No not off topic really. I was just really shocked when I got the call from HTC. I really did not expect to hear from them. Like I said I felt bad for the guy, but I feel that they should at least give us a yes or no. For that I have lost alot of faith in the company.
Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
anglkitty77 said:
Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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I received a call from a Gordon, and some girl on two seperate occasions. They are in my voicemail ...was planning to call them back.
Anyways, these were for my Mytough4g complaint, fwiw.
Towle said:
Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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Well at least someone else got calls and emails...was about to think my new phone had generated me a stalker! lol
paulmor said:
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The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Uhhh....? I think you need to re-read his post... He said the exact same thing you just did..
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Hi guys, posted it in some thread but thought it would be a good idea to have a separate thread for it.
Facebook and Twitter is the only way to speed up unlocked bootloader process guys. You want publicity, not private conversation. So it's quite pointless emailing htc, we had a win, now we need to make sure that potential customers are aware that HTC is taking it's time in keeping their word, so they hold back on the purchase. If sales figures drop, HTC will pull the finger out and will HAVE to do something about it. PUBLICITY. REPUTATION. SALES. That's what we need to address. Make sure that you mention that even average Joe which doesn't want root can be affected, as if company doesn't keep up to promises, they do it to EVERYONE. Mention that they lied about Desire getting GB (well, calling it lie is exaggerating a bit, but we want to make it look bad, and I hope you heard the news), so average Joe can't expect to have his HTC phone to be up to date for the whole length of the contract (normally 24month in UK). Make customers think before buying, even if takes only one week for all the customers to decide, HTC will definitely notice it, and will realize what sort of impact small group of unhappy customers can cause.
Also, as a lot of us hang out in other forums (i still pop in to Desire forum now and again), i suppose we could start threads there with links to this one, or just quoting it, so we get a lot more people to help us (we are a small group of Sensation owners in the end of the day). I do believe that even Sammy, LG, MOTO etc. owners will be sympathetic to our cause and will help us to become louder.
If anyone thinks this thread is pointless, feel free to mention it to mods. Only sharing my thoughts
you're a genius ...
definitely not pointless - we need to get the word out. 5 minutes of time to protect our investments is not much to ask.
I've been spamming their facebook page since about two weeks ago. It's extremely annoying to see their rep. respond to some dumb pic post, while ignoring real issues. I didn't expect an unlocked bootloader by now, but I do expect some kind of update.
HTC said that the desire would be getting a gingerbread update, then turn around and announce that it wasn't possible. Are they doing the same with the bootloader? I also don't understand why the ceo would comment specificallyon the evo 3d, but not the sensation. I understand that online support has said that were getting an unlocked bootloader, but who knows. It's been a month, they could easily give an update. If something isn't done/said in the next ten days, this phone is going back to Wal-Mart.
Hell, if it was just the bootloader pissing me off, then I'd be ok. At this point, I can hardly get on the browser because the data keeps locking up. I'm starting to regret selling my g2x. I'm very close to going back to my hd2 for a few days so I can actually use my phone without wanting to throw it against the wall.
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tinky1 said:
Mention that they lied about Desire getting GB (well, calling it lie is exaggerating a bit, but we want to make it look bad, and I hope you heard the news), so average Joe can't expect to have his HTC phone to be up to date for the whole length of the contract (normally 24month in UK). Make customers think before buying, even if takes only one week for all the customers to decide, HTC will definitely notice it, and will realize what sort of impact small group of unhappy customers can cause.
If anyone things this thread is pointless, feel free to mention it to mods. Only sharing my thoughts
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Something seems to be working, now HTC says GB is comming for the Desire
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-pulls-a-180-now-says-gingerbreads-coming-to-desire/
Which is bull****. One day they day it isn't possible, then the next day it is. That alone proves that they'll lie. Did they lie about the bootloader just to stop the constant spamming a few weeks ago?
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Seeing that they did a U-turn on GB update for Desire makes me even more suspicious. WHY? You either can do it or you can't, so why announce one thing and then change your mind? Cheap PR? Don't get it.... I see things like that as a big fat MINUS to HTC.
Here it is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150327584518084
Definitely, G2X is a nice phone. I am really considering G2X now.
tawtao said:
Here it is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150327584518084
Definitely, G2X is a nice phone. I am really considering G2X now.
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Have you checked out the G2X forum and all the issues with the G2X? The fact that T-Mobile still isn't selling the G2X on the website speaks volumes about the phone.
tawtao said:
Here it is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150327584518084
Definitely, G2X is a nice phone. I am really considering G2X now.
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If you want my g2x I can sell you mine haha
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azsl1326 said:
Have you checked out the G2X forum and all the issues with the G2X? The fact that T-Mobile still isn't selling the G2X on the website speaks volumes about the phone.
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I had a G2X, and at least I could browse the internet without my data hanging. Within five minutes of getting my G2x, I was also rooted w/ recovery installed.
How do I check s-off/s-on?
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How do I check s-off/s-on?
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With the phone off, press power and volume down at the same time. It will boot into hboot. At the top of that screen it will Eng S-off or S-on
I've been on the htc boat for a couple of years now and one things 4 shure, htc makes good phones, but it seems like they don't know how 2 listen 2 their customers. If they carry on acting and behaving in the future like they used 2 do, then the excistens of htc fades out. The whole idea of google and android is open source, that will say people like us are the developers and we can't develop and beeing be innovative if we don't have the tools to work with. Unlocked phones is a must.
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[Q] exchanging phone @ AT&T hoping to get one without 1.85; any experience with this?
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
1.85 hasn't been released... can't see how you'd end up with one.
So you know the risks of using a leaked ruu. Why not just wait for root for 1.85 or a official update ruu?
Nothing is wrong with your device
Why would you need to return it? If being on 1.85 is the only issue, why not wait it out? I can't see why this is a problem that would require an exchange...
If you are not experiencing any problems other than being on 1.85 I would suggest u keep the phone. There is a very good possibility you could end up with a phone that has issues like the one I have and several others have had. Not only that but u flashed it to your phone so why make the carrier pay for something u did.
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meccanikal said:
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
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I'm stuck on 1.85 also. The phone runs fine and I can wait for the root.
I'm just curious, what were you going to tell them to convince them to exchange your phone with 1.85 for a stock phone?
Mike
I just took mine to the AT&T store half an hour ago. Since it was finally released from customs they said it should be in stock this week. They let me hold onto the phone and said even if I have to keep it past the 30 days they'll replace it anyway. They said there's a possibility of it being in stock tomorrow, so if I replace it then, I'll let you know.
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
sassafras_ said:
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
sassafras_ said:
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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Agreed.
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Zabalba said:
My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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Your ad hominem attack doesn't do anything to make my point less valid. There is a difference between AT&T locking out things like data tethering (which is stupid) and HTC voiding warranties for bootloader unlocking, which is their prerogative. As an electronics manufacturer who incurs cost every time they accept a warranty return, it makes perfect sense to have a system which allows them to track who has unlocked the bootloader.
As a community of modders, I like to think that we all can accept that we are taking the warranty into our own hands when we modify the device in ways it was not intended to be used.
sassafras
I've been trying for a couple weeks to get mine swapped, both because of 1.85 and because of connection problems.. I just called a store and they said to call tomorrow (31st day since purchase) to see if they have any, and that they would be willing to work with the circumstances... But if you are swapping for no other issue I'm not sure how they'll like that.
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Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . . . He also refers to the bootloader unlock as a software update from the manufacturer, so perhaps he just has no idea what I'm talking about.
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
czucker said:
Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . .
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
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taht's a standard AT&T kiss off letter. They're saying they don't do anything to prevent HTC from sending updates to phones. Not That they aren't preventing the bootloader from being unlocked.
Big Bro does it again
Standard BS reply from the big bro... u know urself nothing in that letter is what they say it to be...
I sort of figured as much and edited my original post to reflect that. . .
It may not help, but I still reckon it doesn't hurt to write a letter or two.
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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Me too almost to the letter.
I'll write in as well
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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SAFE? Gimme a break... Whatever AT&T keep the bootloaders locked! We will brick countless devices over and over until we find our exploit and you can foot the bill. Or you can let us unlock through HTCdev like the rest of the world and save yourself the time/money.
Oh no wait, that would be the smart thing to do, and you are all Morons.
Att reps have no idea what they're doing. This is a good example.
They basically said the exact same thing about the vivid when it was released. I didn't buy it then and don't know.
But thanks to the heat devs here we are able to unlock it anyway.
They can't stop the brilliant minds at work here.
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Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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There was something wrong with this letter, but I fixed it.
The guy has no idea. He doesn't even know what BL Unlock is. And he doesn't realize that AT&T DOES in fact prevent a lot of customers from using different software.
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
Went through this with the Evo 3D as well..HTC wouldn't unlock the bootloader and a month later we had S-Off and not to far after the HTC Unlock tool came about. I still have hope for this device
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carlosjcar said:
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
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I wonder if they really know what a boot loader is and what the difference is between locked or unlocked. Also why would they say they don't lock the boot loader? If I was talking to him on the phone (or better yet, in person), I would tell him "Look, grab your HTC Vivid there. Hold down power and Volume down. It will boot into hboot. What do you see at the top?"
Doubt it would of helped though. And oh well. You know, you've just got to have some bumps in the road. We all need to have conversations with head guys over at AT&T every now and then. Laughter is good medicine. And you know what, if they are not cooperative... give them a link to the GFY page (some forums have a GFY button but this does not, defuq is up with that???), and do it yourself.
I do agree, difficult but not impossible. XDA Devs are awesome!
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
nugzo said:
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
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It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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superchilpil said:
It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
nugzo said:
I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
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I'd love 64gb on the one x, never understood why they did that to this phone.
I guess they figure we are going to find out how unlock regardless so might as well give us what they promised in the first place
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HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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18th.abn said:
HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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I swear I saw that coming...they were all happy and all fair witha all the HTC elevate members and whoever got the phone before hand and let the bl process be there till the night before...that makes me wonder why!!! Why do they Care so much..Verizon made some really questionable decisions with that device sucks as 16 gb no menu remap(come on?) No sd slot(really?) ....i wish HTC weren't in such a slump right now...they make the best phones in my opinions but when they come to the see US the carriers have them by their balls
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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I reckon this thread serves no purpose.
Your wondering whether to call back and give 'more abuse' , when they have phoned you directly to try to solve your issue.
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chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
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What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
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Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.
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What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.
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Get em Barry!!!!!!!! I agree
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I've had HTC call me after a survey in the past as well when I had issues with my old Sensation. Found them more than helpful
Who cares? I don't.
Can I help you? Nope.
Can you help me? Nope.
Do I learn something from this thread? Nope.
Do you learn something? Hopefully yes. :cyclops:
chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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i smell trolls
threadstarter si trying to get the attention of HTC for what? the fact that they made the effort to call you back with regards to your survey means that they have good customer service. and you wanted to "hurl abuse?" imo HTC doesnt need customers like you.
If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)
Pointless thread you lot. No need to post anymore let it die down. Next:banghead:
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No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers.
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I stopped reading right here.
DarkDvr said:
If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)
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Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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barondebxl said:
Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving
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says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving
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Sure.
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The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy
HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly