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Does anyone know if cyanogen will ever come to the charge? I've seen rumors and and some threads but nothing concrete
Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...
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Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...
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that was too funny
imnuts said:
Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...
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PWNED
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Since nobody wants to give you a straight up response, having been using a Fascinate from the beginning, based on that cycle, it is probably a year out if I had to guess. That's if people are actively working on it I suppose. We just now got it working well on the Fascinate...look at the Fascinate launch date, make a few assumptions, and do the math. Unless something huge happens I would expect it to be a long time, if ever. The one saving grace for this phone is probably its similarities to many other phones like the GalaxyS line and NexusS. Nobody knows when.
Likes the poster above me said, there's no definitive information. I'd say that's the worst thing about the Charge. Not the low RAM or the lack of official GB it's just not a huge scene. Look @ the Galaxy S2, not even released in the U.S. and it's already got Cyanogen. Kind of sad to see such a beautiful phone not getting the attention it deserves.
I'm not expecting much in the way of Charge development. I kind of knew when i got it as a replacement for the fascinate that it was a holdover till March (my 20 month upgrade eligibility). At least i got a better camera, front camera and LTE for real nice chatting video.
orateam said:
I'm not expecting much in the way of Charge development. I kind of knew when i got it as a replacement for the fascinate that it was a holdover till March (my 20 month upgrade eligibility). At least i got a better camera, front camera and LTE for real nice chatting video.
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We hopefully have omfgb coming soon . I cant wait for AOSP.
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bobthesalesclerk said:
We hopefully have omfgb coming soon . I cant wait for AOSP.
Droid Charge/Humble 1.42/PBJ OTB 1.4ghz
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That would be nice for sure.
blarrick said:
Likes the poster above me said, there's no definitive information. I'd say that's the worst thing about the Charge. Not the low RAM or the lack of official GB it's just not a huge scene. Look @ the Galaxy S2, not even released in the U.S. and it's already got Cyanogen. Kind of sad to see such a beautiful phone not getting the attention it deserves.
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Galaxy S2 got Cyanogen first because Samsung sent a phone to one of the devs a few months back.
I love my Charge! Came from the Fascinate and had plenty of time to try out CM7. The GPS on the charge is lightning fast right out of the box, touchwiz camera and video player are by far the best available. CM7 definitely offers more control, but the TW camera alone is enough to make me stay.
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i think i read samsung sent 4 phones to the guys at cyanogen mod.
that's pretty amazing if you ask me, to get support from such a major manufacturer.
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Galaxy S2 got Cyanogen first because Samsung sent a phone to one of the devs a few months back.
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While true, that should make everyone feel even worse about the dev scene for our phone (that the manufacturer cares enough to get dev for one of their phones but not the one we have).
That said, I've never had a phone with CM. I'm completely happy with the stuff put out by Danalo, Nitro, and I'm sure I'll like kejar's stuff whenever I try it out.
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While true, that should make everyone feel even worse about the dev scene for our phone (that the manufacturer cares enough to get dev for one of their phones but not the one we have).
That said, I've never had a phone with CM. I'm completely happy with the stuff put out by Danalo, Nitro, and I'm sure I'll like kejar's stuff whenever I try it out.
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I can tell you when CM7 for the Fascinate got stable and MMS finally got fixed, o tried it out, and compared to all the other Touchwiz based roms, its ridiculously fast. The BML/MTD implementation is above and beyond any TW deodexed, debloated, voodoo ext4 type of rom. That's not to discredit those roms, but a stable CM build with a good kernel literally turned my Fascinate into a whole new device more than a year into its life.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
F*ck this phone! Selling now.
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If you're too impatient for us devs to get cm7 and/or cm9 ported to this phone, then we'll be glad to see you go.
Good Luck!
Really? Was that really necessary, op?
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It hurts me a little in the inside seeing that, but I'll live. This phone has been great, don't diss it!
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My comment may have been a little harsh and I will delete it. Seriously though, this phone will always be one step behind the rest. It is a great device and it's hardware specs fall in line with those receiving ICS. Samsung just got Ginger out to us and how long has that been out?
I do appreciate all the work the Devs have done and are doing. Without you guys this phone would be completely dead. Currently though it is half dead and time to sell based on Samsung's decision.
I have the feeling this phone will get ICS through other channels, but that remains to be seen, for one, and the lack of support for this device from Samsung is really the point here, for two.
With the Android Update Alliance a clear attempt to simply stay concerns for fragmentation and lacking, irresponsible product support shining so clearly through it's remains, I am very glad to have kept this phone and to have supported developers that are on my team, and not just pretending to be. Sell? NO WAI.
What outcome does that hold? More money to Samsung for the seemingly delicious SGS2? Or better yet, complaining about the unhealthy support at the device deli I am seats at, only to cross the street and put money down to bite on another manufacturer's mis-advertised meal?
No no, my question remains.
Where's the beef? It goes unanswered.
Except here at XDA. Where support means putting my money where my mouth is. Raver, Hawk, and Co. can expect their christmas bonus. The money I won't spend on empty promises can go to those who were promised nothing, promised nothing, and delivered anyways.
May all your device purchases be used, may all your developers get their just rewards, and may all your manufacturers have their feet held close to the fire.
Merry Christmas to XDA, and to all abused consumers on Android who haven't wised up to where your dollars belong, a swift flight.
I am happy to stay right here, of new devices steer clear, and to upgrade eventually without fear - all thanks to the community found so near. Two clicks to XDA!
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ooh, that's a cheap move by Sammy. All they care about is cash. They are quite aware that this phone will run ICS almost as well as gs2, not counting the dual core thing. If not that, it will still be as fast if not faster than GB on this. Oh well, at least we will get CM7. I don't know about cm9 because we might have the same kernel source issue. Oh well, maybe ill get the next of the nexuses. Maybe with "jolly rancher" or something similar. Maybe 4.1 or 5.0.
Anyway, those who are average and don't mod their android phones who get the ICS update ota from Samsung won't even notice it is different because touchwiz would kill it anyway.
Edit: nice poem aldreth. You posted before me, so I didn't see it previously.
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Did sammy ever even promise us GB? I don't recall one being made, and with ICS on the horizon, our chances were looking less and less likely. The plans for the SGS4G may not have been announced, but there is still a slight chance. i'll get my ICS soon enough, whether it be with this device or another.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
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Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.
Slick ass movie by samsung. Them ****s want us to buy another phone.
@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.
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@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
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There are a few devs working on it, if we could only work together... Thats another story.
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I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.
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I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms? I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms?
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With a newer kernel, one would only expect bugfixes, performance fixes, and new features (like host usb support, new arm hibernation support, and a ton of others...)
With a newer android, I know there are bugs that I opened with AOSP that are fixed in ICS. So that would be nice to be able to test the resolution of the bugs I opened. Lots of other android specific fixes, performance improvements, and new features.
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I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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Sh*t, I'm not going to tell you what to do or whatever. Do what you want.
I'll bet you'll be impressed when you use it, but work will need to be done before we can get there... so...
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Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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Agreed CM7 is my daily driver on my G2 and its amazing so i am incredibly ecstatic theres a chance i could get it on here too thanks to all devs we dont need sammy we got something a hell of alot better in our devs here
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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I was basing what I said off of " don't fix something that's not broken ". I just don't see enough improvements ( software-wise ) to make me wanna switch from ( hopefully soon ) CM7 to ICS or even Tehgyb's Rom I am on now to ICS. I love Android and I loved having CM7 on all of my devices, I still have an Optimus V and Incredible S running CM7 and I was really disappointed when I got this phone and there was not a CM7 for it which blew me away as seeing as this is a Galaxy S phone. I'm not saying ICS is not good, I'm just saying that talking and reading about it hasn't done anything to me to make me want to use it. Of course I will try it the first day it is available for this phone and I probaly will say " Damn, this is nice! " but, until I can use it for myself and not just read about it, I'm going to stick with my point.
@Airfluip1, I will never own an iAnything.
bswann, since no one has actually answered your question about what features ICS has that GB does not, you can try reading these articles to get a better idea:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review
To the user, it seems like it's mostly UI improvements, making certain tasks easier to perform and monitor. Also, I heard ICS will automatically adjust to whatever screen resolution it runs on, so you won't need a different version to run on a phone vs a tablet (like honeycomb).
It seems the backend has been restructured as well, and while this probably won't be visible to the user, we can only assume that it will make the system run smoother and faster as a whole. I hope so, anyway.
So really, in a nutshell, ICS probably won't give your phone a bunch of features it doesn't have already, but it should make things run smoother, faster, and easier.
I'm not on contract, so I might upgrade IF I feel that ICS offers some things I can't live without, and I will get to test it soon on my HP Touchpad (CM team is working on a port right now). But for now, GB serves me well on my GS4G.
ICS
All i know is that my fast phone was made faster by the dev's here. Most of us appreciate the time spent as I enjoy sampling all the rom's.
If someone can port the ICS to our phone I am sure it will be that much better.
Thanks and Happy Holidays.
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Devs are already working on CM7. Just give it some time. In the future I'll be developing for this phone as well.
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I still love mine after just over a year with it. Some of the ROMs are a bit quirky but some are super nice. I'd save the upgrade for something later. Mine is coming in December and I am tempted to go GSIII or Note II. If there is something awesome on the horizon I'll wait and keep this.
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As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I personally moved from a G2 to a MyTouch 4G Slide.
The camera is great. I enjoyed the stock ROM for a bit before taking the plunge.
If you can get a unit for $150, that is a good deal. From what I understand, the MT4GS is now "an old phone."
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Coug76 said:
... I'd save the upgrade for something later. ...
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Definitely don't burn your upgrade on a MyTouch 4G Slide.
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I have a MT4GS and recentally my wife got a Samsung Relay, which roughly takes the same spot in the T-Mobile lineup. Here are the pros/cons that I've noticed so far:
The MT4GS has a slide mechanism for the keyboard that IMHO is far superior, easier to open and close without it jamming as the Relay seems to tend to do;
The MT4GS feels more solid than the Relay, although this "solid" feeling comes with a bit of weight to it, although I do have an upgraded battery;
The Relay seems to have a better battery life, although I haven't tested side by side to analyze this in detail;
The MT4GS has active ROM development, including IMHO a nice CM 9.1 release, as well as Sense roms. Samsung phones obviously don't have sense.
I believe the Relay has been rooted already, but I haven't seen any solid third party ROM development yet, although signs are there will be some.
The relay has a dual S4 core (reports that it had the S3 were premature on this point), so is a bit faster than the dual S3 in the MT4GS, but not by such a huge amount that it will blow you away.
The Relay has a slightly larger screen, but again, not by so much that it will amaze you.
The Relay has ICS as the stock rom, while the MT4GS has GB. While you can put ICS on the MT4GS, it is nice to have a reasonably recent stock rom to fall back to. The flip side, is, as noted above, the relay doesn't have third party roms, so you simply don't have a choice at the moment.
My overall opinion is that for someone that likes playing with their phone, the MT4GS is a good choice for a tmobile slider today, although moving forward, the relay MAY take it's place for modding.
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Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Haah, I bought a little time ago that for 327,77 hardware+50 (shipment)+ 100 USD of duty..., because I prefer hardware keyboard, son-erric- is now good with Xperia -T LTE, but..without hardware keyboard. But Sony have really perfect build quality.
In EU this total price is normal for phone like MT4GS.....
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El.
I would stay away from the cheaper ones. Our phone has had a track record of screens going bad, so if the seller is willing to let it go for a really low price, there may be problems.
Source: I've seen tons of phones on ebay with bad screens. Get one that's been refurbished, or only a few months old in great shape. Most refurbs look mint, because HTC usually replaces the whole top half of the phone when screens go bad
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As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
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Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I only suggest our phone, because it has dev support and is much more affordable at this point. It takes at least a year for most android phones to start getting devs
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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How long have you had the device?
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elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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elpapagayo said:
Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Wait till the jellybean sense ROMs are released and you will see the most stable 2011 phone with jellybean OS installed
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Make sure you don't confuse what I said. Inquisition is the most capable. But if you want the most bug free ICS rom there is, it has to be Primadonna.
Well, this phone does the job for me quite well. I use cm9 because I love the extras it provides compared to the other ROMs.
If you do get this phone [or basically any phone] it is a good idea to grab a higher capacity battery just for convenience sakes. I have not done so yet because I bought the phone with an extra stock battery so that works for me. But yes, I did notice when I first got the phone, that the battery life is not as resilient as some others. Then again I do use stock bat.- the tweaked cm9 is making some headway on the drain problem with the community's help.
I recently looked into what other T-mobile phones are out there and as it turned out, my specific search query on phonescoop based on what I want in a phone only resulted in the mytouch 4g slide lol. So this is the phone for me and I am happy with it.
just wanted to add my 2 cents. i came from a rooted G2 running CM7, this phone was very capable, and i loved the housing, the keyboard, and the display. i dropped this phone so many times, but never had a cracked screen or cracked housing.
the only phone i wanted to upgrade to was the MT4GS, mainly because of the qwerty keyboard, and advanced camera.
even though the MT4GS is discontinued, i held out till my girlfriend got an iphone, and she gave me her MT4GS, only reason she got rid of it, was because of random reboots, constant freezing etc.
i happily took it, rooted it, and am really enjoying the phone. my favorite thing being the camera. only thing i could ask for is slightly more system memory, but i really can't complain. the MT4GS seems more capable hardware wise then a lot of newer phones on the market.
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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Wow. Someone is full of themselves. Do you understand what XDA is founded on? Developers helping developers. Atleast those devs are doing something and trying to help out. It's people like you who show no appreciation for the devs work and just leech off them that makes devs not want to do it anymore. If you don't like any of the ROMs, do something about it. Either help them make it better or make your own ROM. I recommend the second, because then you'll see how disheartening it is for someone to bash your work that you spent hours and hours on.
Works well for me, no complaints
Sent from my ass
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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With all due respect, if you're getting no further into a link for a ROM than the 1st page you're not doing any of the research necessary to even find out if any of those initially listed glitches HAVE been fixed. And if not fixed in the original upload you'll miss those fixes & workarounds that have been discovered & explained by one of the other very capable developers we're lucky enough to have reside here & kindly teaching the rest of us. You TOO, if you don't mind doing some reading. Some ROMS have a couple hundred pages of research & further development added after the fact with things added for us very often in an individual obscure post. Virtuous Infinity is a PERFECT example. Download the things in the OP and you'll think the ROM kinda sux for it's length of development. But if you follow everything through to the end and follow all the directions you'll end up with a ROM you can make a nandroid of that will blow you away. To some extent, they are ALL like that.
MANY people come to XDA with a new phone with the idea that it's like going to a GM plant and waiting for just the one you've always looked for to roll out the door & drive away in. In actuality it's more like a trip to Lowes where you can take some idea you love into the store & ask the experts what tools you need, how to use them & why and end up with something to be VERY proud of. Of course that's JMHO.....
At Verizon Wireless, only the Galaxy Nexus runs Jelly Bean. Eight other phones ship with ICS: Motorola's Droid Razr M, Droid 4 and Droid Razr Maxx; Samsung's Galaxy S III and Galaxy Stellar; HTC's Rezound and Droid Incredible 4G LTE; LG's Intuition; and the Pantech Marauder. Verizon says it will ship Jelly Bean for the Razr M by the end of the year and, later, for the Galaxy S III. Another eight models ship with Gingerbread.
How is the Razr M getting Jelly Bean before us?
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/15/with-android-phones-future-on-hold/
Who cares...there is currently 8-9 jellybean roms in the dev section! Pick one and enjoy
To answer your question: because we're old news. It's not a matter of who has seniority. They're going to put money into their new toy because those are the ones they are trying to push. I doubt they'd care if they didn't sell another original Razr.
And I have to agree, pick a ROM and go nuts. Currently on CM10 and having a blast!
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droidstyle said:
Who cares...there is currently 8-9 jellybean roms in the dev section! Pick one and enjoy
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Wish it was that simple but Every JB rom right now has some sort of issue no matter how well people say they run.
What we really need is a leak. Who cares about official. Pretty sad we still don't have one.
People keep buying these Samsung phones expecting Samsung to be right on top of updates. I hate to break this to you, but keylime pie will probably be almost dead by the time we get official JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934832
You guys are a little late to the conversation lol
xjman said:
People keep buying these Samsung phones expecting Samsung to be right on top of updates. I hate to break this to you, but keylime pie will probably be almost dead by the time we get official JB.
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As far as im concerned its Verizon's fault.
Couldn't Samsung just 'accidentally' leak Jelly Bean for our devices... please!
I'm sure we will get a leak soon, someone will get their hands on one.
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it's not the point, the gs3 should get jb before the razr line does. another crap move by verizon and samsung.
fr8cture said:
As far as im concerned its Verizon's fault.
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Yeah, it is VZW's fault. So, why is it this is a historic problem with Samsung on all carriers? Don't worry, you'll get the update. Long after the phone isn't relevant.
at this point it will probably be well into 2013 before we get the ota.
[email protected] said:
Wish it was that simple but Every JB rom right now has some sort of issue no matter how well people say they run.
What we really need is a leak. Who cares about official. Pretty sad we still don't have one.
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AOSP no longer has enough issues to keep me away at this point...Im currently on eclipse and its solid! Once in awhile I get a data drop, but nothing major. I agree we should have a leak by now, but samsung and verizon dont play nice...this is nothing new. It really does not bother me because there is enough development going on with this device to keep me content. people just like to ***** about stuff and to top it off, we already have a thread on this topic ...which was my main point in regards to my previous post.
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fix-this! said:
it's not the point, the gs3 should get jb before the razr line does. another crap move by verizon and samsung.
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You dont think it has something to do with the insecure bootloader being leaked do ya? Motorola wont ever unlock thier bootloaders, so Verizon shows them more love? Just speculating here...
droidstyle said:
AOSP no longer has enough issues to keep me away at this point...Im currently on eclipse and its solid! Once in awhile I get a data drop, but nothing major. I agree we should have a leak by now, but samsung and verizon dont play nice...this is nothing new. It really does not bother me because there is enough development going on with this device to keep me content. people just like to ***** about stuff and to top it off, we already have a thread on this topic ...which was my main point in regards to my previous post.
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You dont think it has something to do with the insecure bootloader being leaked do ya? Motorola wont ever unlock thier bootloaders, so Verizon shows them more love? Just speculating here...
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as far as aosp goes for me there is a serious wifi connection bug with every rom i try. the ota will at least give us stable drivers to improve aosp performance.
locked bootloader or not we still should of had the jb ota before the razr m. then again i should of known buying a samsung i would get slow updates. im sure with the jb ota they will try to lock our bootloaders again and prevent root, that's what verizon is know for doing.
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as far as aosp goes for me there is a serious wifi connection bug with every rom i try. the ota will at least give us stable drivers to improve aosp performance.
locked bootloader or not we still should of had the jb ota before the razr m. then again i should of known buying a samsung i would get slow updates. im sure with the jb ota they will try to lock our bootloaders again and prevent root, that's what verizon is know for doing.
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If, and, but's, were candy and nuts, we wouldnt need christmas...point is, nothing works they way it "should" these days. Its all politics...just sayin!
fix-this! said:
as far as aosp goes for me there is a serious wifi connection bug with every rom i try. the ota will at least give us stable drivers to improve aosp performance.
locked bootloader or not we still should of had the jb ota before the razr m. then again i should of known buying a samsung i would get slow updates. im sure with the jb ota they will try to lock our bootloaders again and prevent root, that's what verizon is know for doing.
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here's a quote of a comment off of one of the articles on droid life regarding the new update:
I hope it fixes the wifi issue the wife has on her phone. It always drops the wifi connection then won't connect till after a reboot. Not sure if it is just her phone or a hardware or software issue.
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Seems like it's not an AOSP problem for the WiFi.
International version and all the other carriers will get JB (and KLP etc) long before Verizon. Count on it.
We just want a leak from internal testing so we have a proper JB base and kernel on which to build custom roms. VZW usually takes months delaying (i.e. what they call testing) before they decide to release, doesn't mean its not ready way before that.
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We just want a leak from internal testing so we have a proper JB base and kernel on which to build custom roms.
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Seeing they run twi different sets of hardware the International version won't help us much..
And as far as the razr m getting jb first shouldn't be shocking as Google now ownz Motorola and will push updates to them first
Sent from my SGS3
Brian Gove said:
here's a quote of a comment off of one of the articles on droid life regarding the new update:
Seems like it's not an AOSP problem for the WiFi.
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for me it is and several others. never as any issues on any ics rom.
Anyone know how Sprint's S3 AOSP roms are running since they got a JB leak? Wonder if they have the same issues still like we have or if they are ahead of us because of the leak.
I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
You can see my opinion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51600010&postcount=65
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I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
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Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates.
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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slimbrady said:
I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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slimbrady said:
Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
EpicSaga said:
Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
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Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
AndyYan said:
KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
slimbrady said:
yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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I tried both links, but they didn't take me to any videos. I'm not on my phones browser. Can you post them to view on a PC? Thanks
idimitro said:
Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology. It made his hotspot active. I tested it by signing into his Photon Q's wifi network from from my phone and it worked. I only used it for about 5 minutes then uninstalled the app because he was afraid that Sprint would charge him to use the hotspot. I later called Sprint to check and they said that the hotspot was not active. I wonder if they could catch it and charge him if it was used more frequently.
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology.
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
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Correct, if you are running a custom ROM they don't seem to notice.
I tether via USB and wifi frequently and Sprint has never said anything. I do not have a tethering plan.
I know this thread is old... but I feel its still relevant.
This phone IS WORTH BUYING, especially if you are a die hard QWERTY person like myself. It appears to be the last man standing, riding off into the sunset.
The phone is basically a GS3 processor with a keyboard which is still a great phone. It functions great for work, custom roms, minor gaming, etc.
Since you can pick up a used one from Ebay in good condition for $90 it is becoming a great value as well.
The aftermarket community is still very active since they appear to have a soft spot for a true workhorse slider phone.
Until the "budget slider phones" have specs that meet or exceed the GS3 then this phone is still the best slider money can buy.
In the meantime if you care about new slider phones with max stats as a flagship device then you need to make your voice heard on facebook posts, blog posts, etc from all the mojor carriers like LG, Moto, and Samsung. I personally refuse to buy a phone without a slider and I let them know at every chance I get.
What ever happened to "Droid DOES"? Droid DOES NOT have a keyboard.
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Also you can do one click root and unlock programs, motochopper and motopocalypse. they are very easy. All you have to do is get fastboot onto your computer. there are some shell programs that include fastboot without downloading the entire android SDK
Yes, it's quite simple:
If you're into qwerty sliders, Photon Q is the top Android device ever manufactured in this category.
No matter that it's more than 1.5 year old now, no other/better high-end sliders have been produced since that time.
This device offers official bootloader unlock, so it's as open as Android gets.
The software support for its MSM8960 SoC is still under active development by the SoC manufacturer Qualcomm (published by CAF), so it can be perceived as a modern device even now.
The weakest spot of this device in my eyes is its 1785 mAh battery. But it easily survives one day of my active usage, so I'm fine with it. Just don't forget to put it on charger when you go to sleep .