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G2x Lack of Support?

Getting mine in a couple of days.
Seem kind of weary. Is it because the G2x is new OR is it just not that popular?
Don't see much dev support on this device.
Anyone shed some light?

actually there are many top devs that have been starting to develop for this phone. Some are top Vibrant devs like morfic (kernels/ Team Whiskey i believe?), krylon (team whiskey as well/Bionix Roms), MT4G faux, cyanogen (CM7 Roms), and more devs are popping up. Google made this phone pretty easy to work with from what I understand.
these are just the big devs that i can think of off the top of my head.
Also we had one click root and Clockwork Recovery within 24 hours after G2x release. Source code was released within a few days after G2x release from LG as well instead of the normal 90 days.
now all we need is the Official Gingerbread from T-mobile to get us rocking even more

yeah g2x development got rocking pretty fast. very well orgainiazed in here as well.

Development doesn't come in full force overnight...

regP said:
Development doesn't come in full force overnight...
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this ^^
the biggest hump we need to get over is our first big patch from LG/tmobile which will give us gingerbread (2.3.4 hopefully) and a new baseband with much better driver support...
all of the 2.3 builds are hampered a bit right now because of kernel issues or wonky drivers for the battery, bluetooth, light sensor, keyboard/touch sensor (spacebar deadzone), govenors for the kernel, ect... drivers are not easy for devs to build and optimize, thats more of a manufacturer job
for complete stability right now the Eagles Blood rom is hands down the best in my opinion but again its only 2.2...
I would really expect the update fairly soon, within weeks I am hoping and after that id imagine things will start to explode... faux is already taking great strides in a pure AOSP rom which will be a great base for future rom cookers to build off of

Tbh, I think development for this phone is great. I mean we have morfic and faux making kernals. We have CM. We have Krylon with Bionix and we also have Team Shockwave with EB. Development for this phone can only grow much bigger.

I think you have to be one of us ex-Vibrant users to really appriciate G2x development in its current state.

The support is incredible for this phone. I really can't see how it could be any better or more prolific, it's only been out for a month.

What are you talking about dude? This phone has been out for a month and it already has some of the most popular names in development. You are out of your damn mind.

I'll take quality over quantity any day. The people who are currently developing for the G2x are top notch. I've been very pleased with the progress of things

regP said:
I think you have to be one of us ex-Vibrant users to really appriciate G2x development in its current state.
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+1 to that. Thoughts of my old Vibrant give me the shivers....

JHaste said:
t keyboard/touch sensor (spacebar deadzone),
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So spacebar deadzone is a known issue?? I just had mine refurbed for this haha.

Dolphinwigs said:
+1 to that. Thoughts of my old Vibrant give me the shivers....
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You think the vibrant was bad? Take a look at the at the epic's forum. They still only have like 4 stable roms.
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Yea I think this thread is misleading. For a 3 month old phone there is TONS of dev work going on.
They are just getting the AOSP roms ironed out, which means smaller devs will have a good base to customize roms their way. We already have several Kang Developers as well as Faux, EB, Bionix and CM7. This is excluding the handful of custom kernels.
For 3 weeks I think we're doing hella good. I'm happy

Wasn't aware it has only been out a month. Not bad indeed!
Off thread topic, but is everyone just living with the LCD light bleed?
I'm not sure if sending it in for refurbs will really fix the underlying issue.
Does it really just become a game of "hope for the best one"?

xomikronx said:
Wasn't aware it has only been out a month. Not bad indeed!
Off thread topic, but is everyone just living with the LCD light bleed?
I'm not sure if sending it in for refurbs will really fix the underlying issue.
Does it really just become a game of "hope for the best one"?
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did you get yours yet? i just got mine, 24 hours now, i have a little bit of bleed. kind of annoying at first, but its not nearly as bad as others so i'm letting it go. everything else about the phone is great. i have cm7 on it and its been really solid so far. each hour goes by i like the phone more.

Juat got mine about 7 hours ago. Running bionix 2. Miss the CM features....mine isn't too bad with the bleed...but just wondering what others felt about the issue...

jrwingate6 said:
What are you talking about dude? This phone has been out for a month and it already has some of the most popular names in development. You are out of your damn mind.
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this.
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xomikronx said:
Juat got mine about 7 hours ago. Running bionix 2. Miss the CM features....mine isn't too bad with the bleed...but just wondering what others felt about the issue...
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At this point I feel like those who couldnt live with it are gone and everyone whos still in this forum isnt bothered . I still only ever thing of the bleeding when I hope on XDA and someone brings it up.

I just got this phone 3 days ago, and its my first with Tmo service. In comparison to ATT phones, except Cappy, Im super impressed by the attention from major devs. I have been waiting for this phone to release for awhile. Was advertised as quad band prelease, then found out release day that its not, so actually had to open tmo acct.
This is the first phone in a year that has made me leave my Cappy at home.
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So long Captivate, it was nice...

My new Nexus S i9020A showed up yesterday.
I've mostly been bouncing between Serendipity and continuum on the 2.3 roms, and was a serendipity user on the 2.2.
Upon receiving my stock Nexus S running 2.3.3, it was already faster and "smoother" than any 2.2 or 2.3 rom i've ever run on my cappy.
Unlocking was a simple process taking all of about 30 seconds. Rooting was just as easy. I'm now running ZuluGen with zero problems whatsoever.
Things just work, no excuses.
The dev's - particularly designgears, mikeymike01, atinm and xcaliburinhand - do amazing work, but its clearly not enough when they aren't given all the working, buildable source - like the Nexus S teams are given.
At any rate - it was nice participating and trying to make something of what is in a lot of ways - a broken phone from Samsung.

The Nexus S is fat

noone cares that you got a new phone unless you're a ROM developer. Otherwise you're just saying "I GOTS TEH BETTER PHONE THEN JOO!!!"

U should've posted this in the nexus s forum.c ya

Kind of a sidegrade rather than an upgrade considering its essentially the same hardware. Should have held out for a dual core nexus.

AdamOutler said:
noone cares that you got a new phone unless you're a ROM developer. Otherwise you're just saying "I GOTS TEH BETTER PHONE THEN JOO!!!"
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fuloplori said:
U should've posted this in the nexus s forum.c ya
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BenKranged said:
Kind of a sidegrade rather than an upgrade considering its essentially the same hardware. Should have held out for a dual core nexus.
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And next year there will be something better than this.

All the more reason not to buy the same phone twice.

cappysw10 said:
And next year there will be something better than this.
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Next year? More like next week.
They flip these things out like hotcakes.

Yup, I would have ordered an sgs II from europe instead of the nexus. Or like others are saying wait for the next nexus which is rumored to be an LG.
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I can't think of a single LG product which has actually been good. It's usually the same thing as everyone else, or below the level.

The nexus S is basically any galaxy S with faster updates, which does not even matter if you run Custom Roms. Sure you will see a slight increase in speed, seeing as Google built 2.3 for the Nexus S first off, but I would not justify buying it, especially starting with a cappy.

1randomtask said:
My new Nexus S i9020A showed up yesterday.
I've mostly been bouncing between Serendipity and continuum on the 2.3 roms, and was a serendipity user on the 2.2.
Upon receiving my stock Nexus S running 2.3.3, it was already faster and "smoother" than any 2.2 or 2.3 rom i've ever run on my cappy.
Unlocking was a simple process taking all of about 30 seconds. Rooting was just as easy. I'm now running ZuluGen with zero problems whatsoever.
Things just work, no excuses.
The dev's - particularly designgears, mikeymike01, atinm and xcaliburinhand - do amazing work, but its clearly not enough when they aren't given all the working, buildable source - like the Nexus S teams are given.
At any rate - it was nice participating and trying to make something of what is in a lot of ways - a broken phone from Samsung.
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Samsung developers are catching up to some of the other brands developers. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

the nexus s is the same as the captivate

yep it's the exact same phone with a few tweaks, i'd much rather play with an atrix

Atrix is terrible
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Why talk down about the Captivate ... yes there have been problems but with custom roms my phone has always been talked about .... I love my phone
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Hahahaha thread full of op fail

Sorry to hear you are leaving, but this thread may clutter the forum.
On that note, thread closed.

[Q] Is anyone in the loop on new Roms?

Im thinking about trading my Droid incredible 2 for a charge, and i'm only looking in the development threads right now. Are there any new ROMs on the horizon? Or any latest news i can be informed of?

x Eacott said:
Im thinking about trading my Droid incredible 2 for a charge, and i'm only looking in the development threads right now. Are there any new ROMs on the horizon? Or any latest news i can be informed of?
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Well gummycharged 2.0 is currently in the works and from the previews we've seen it looks pretty good. I don't know much about the other froyo ROMs and I haven't messed with GB yet. But development is still going strong for the charge.

The developer community for the Charge is likely smaller, so the number of available ROMs is lower compared to the Inc2. However, what is available is pretty good for being all based on the stock software. AOSP based ROMs will come in due time, but again, given the small developer community, it may take some time.

Darkslide charged is suppose to be coming soon! it will be GB.

Appreciate guys. I almost assumed it was a smaller Dev. community but that doesnt make it any less good to everyone, Everyone on the DINC2 forums were great, and im hoping to join this. Im no Dev, but i still would like to give something back to help anyone out there as best as i can

24BlackMamba said:
Darkslide charged is suppose to be coming soon! it will be GB.
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Darkslade sounds very intriguing...
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

OMFGB/OMGB & CM7 are coming to the Charge but it's rumored to be a long ways away. Gummycharged 2.0 is looking great and Team Gummycharged keeps growing. As of now the best ROMs out are Gummy/Humble/Eclipse, my personal favorite being Eclipse.

If u have lte its probably worth the trade...otherwise.

nitsuj17 said:
If u have lte its probably worth the trade...otherwise.
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Yeah, 4G Area over here

Once you go 4g you don't go back.

I thought that was black...
anyways
Yeah the gummycharged roms are very solid. 2.0 will be amazing. 1.9rc2.3 is a gingy build and is already rock solid.
AOSP will be great once we get it. I heard it is partially samsung's fault for making their phones so hard to port from one to another or we would have had it a long time ago with the dev community on the fascinate.
As long as kejar doesn't go anywhere, we will be good lol. He is a mastermind.

[Q] I Can Haz Ice Cream?

So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'

The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.

No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme

they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning

We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...

Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.

First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.

Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.

I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship

Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.

I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.

mrhaley30705 said:
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.

You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..

erbsmokah said:
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
leaked from my FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.

JayFReaZy said:
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.

lonhanson said:
That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?

If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus

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If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.

It's laughable at this point.

ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html

Well, it is a 3G phone, so there shouldn't be issues getting the radios working. I do find it amusing the type of the support these cheesy phones get though.
I don't want to get off topic, but I am curious what sort of CIQ and other potential spyware has been implemented in ICS. It seems a good opportunity for Google to embed CIQ deep within the framework, but alas, who knows.
The main two features of ICS that I think I would like, but don't need, is USB OTG and WiFi Direct.

spc_hicks09 said:
ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
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Smh we will never see it

I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Very good point!!!!

I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...

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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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Don't do it because of us! Do what you enjoy doing and share with us because your proud of your work.
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imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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You already know. Yes, we are eager for ICS/CM7.1/CM7.2/CM9...and everything under the sun that a working RIL would enable us. But, having said that, I think the vast majority of us place FUNCTION in front of FEATURES.
We, Android enthusists with the skills to flash but not actually dev, are like children and will never be satisfied. We need a healthy meal, but are going to whine to have candy for dinner every night. As a dev, you're more similar to our parent in this metaphor... Don't take it personally when we metaphorically say we hate you--we don't. We love you. We need your help to eat at all, so make sure it's the best meal you can provide.
Besides, if the RIL never comes, who bought this phone for Ice Cream Sandwich anyway? I bought this phone for 4G.

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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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imnuts, please don't take my post or the title the wrong way. I am in now way at all saying anything bad about what you do for this phone. Your work is very highly regarded in my book. I was just pointing out how crazy it is with all these ICS ports coming out now. I can promise you that I am grateful for all the work you do for us.

If you want an AOSP ROM, you shouldn't buy a Samsung phone.
Twice bitten for me. Neither of my Samsung phones has had an AOSP ROM.

As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.

xdadevnube said:
As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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AOSP tends to offer a faster experience, and better battery life. It does this by not having any carrier or OEM bloat anywhere. There is a lot of stuff added on to the stock ROM that cannot be removed. To give you an idea, a heavily debloated TW ROM for the Fascinate is usually ~160MB, give or take, where as a stock AOSP ROM is <100MB for the same Android version, GB in this case. That would mean that even the best debloated/cleaned up TouchWiz ROM is still going to have about 40% more useless junk in it than a stock AOSP ROM, and that junk slows down the system and drains the battery.

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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!

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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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I agree with what you're saying mostly, but your post almost sounds like you expect Imnuts and Imoseyon to develop and post their work when they have zero obligation to develop and/or share any of their work in any way. If I wasn't so hard-pressed for cash, I would donate more to the devs. I will when I am able though.
One should also remember the short life cycle of smartphones. I am already looking forward to the Galaxy S III mostly for the display- SAMOLED III.
Also, I would like to be able to watch 480p Flash content in the browser without having to overclock, hopefully 720p Flash in the browser with the GS3.
Of course I would like my Charge to blaze along at its maximum potential, but there is a thin line between spending and wasting time on dated hardware. If you want the the best experience on a device, then it would be best to buy older hardware that it well-developed, like the Fascinate. I am willing to sacrifice for the perks of the Charge, like the SAMOLED+ display and 4G.