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What is the attraction to CM7?

These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.

I thought the topic was taken down.
Edit: Nevermind, the topic is still there. Imo though, I think it should be taken down and only progress be shown. Might prevent the massive amounts of bricking and general failure to read directions.
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Its actually pretty stable and works great long as you read step by step.
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Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.

Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.

41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.

41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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miahsoul said:
I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
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Tough luck brah.
Flashed Andromeda 1.0 for my first ROM. Worked like a charm.
rurouni572 said:
Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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People are people and
It's Gingerbread!!

Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.

lightswitch2159 said:
Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
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And exactly what is in Gingerbread that makes salivating fools out of so many?

phrenicthenub said:
Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
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Yeah, but too many of those people are ending up in here looking for help when it goes bad. It just takes up space and energy better used to solve issues with actual working ROMs. Let the Devs do the development work that they're so good at.

Probably because CM is a big name dev and people think it'll be superior to what they're currently using, oh, and like it was said earlier, Gingerbread... I don't see what the huge fuss is about with Gingerbread, nothing huge has changed from Froyo and Ice Cream is already in development so I think Gingerbread will turn out to be like the early 2.0 Eclair build, something to skip over until a big update is available.
CM isn't what it used to be back in its hayday with the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic, so I'm not sure what people are expecting... Nothing against the CM team of course, the entire team does great work even if the releases are taking a really long time compared to before.
I'll be waiting it out, if I get an official Gingerbread update for either of my phones, I'll do them, otherwise I'm going to wait for the next big update which is actually worth installing... But I agree, there seems to be a huge deal about a simple update for no apparent reason at all, Its not like the Eclair > Froyo update which improved performance by a good margin, so really, there isn't much to gain by installing Gingerbread other than a few UI improvements (which most of us won't see anyways since we all use 3rd party launchers).

Here's a perfect example of how dangerous this place can be sometimes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11894653&postcount=8
She just joined, just got a Captivate and already she's asking about flashing CM7. Apparently, none of the warnings were enough, she's willing to take the advice of absolute strangers, some who are willing to push her onward.

It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones

Miami_Son said:
These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
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It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.

If people refuse to heed warnings, its their own fault.
As for Gingerbread, I can't speak for the others, but I want SIP support.

JVM improvements
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.

egypt3 said:
I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
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Yes, that cursed crt animation. Was drooling over it on preview vid.
The risk of bricking my everyday phone w/o a jig prevents me from doing so.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.

bravomail said:
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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True, but while every ROM has its share of issues, I see more posts from people who tried to flash CM7 and had it go horribly wrong than any other. It is a completely different animal as far as flashing goes.

Trading off Inspire 4G for Infuse - Questions

Hey guys -- looking forward to joining this infuse community if all goes well.
My first question is the obvious one -- the inspire's dev community is thriving (in my opinion) and the infuse seems to pale in comparison; is the infuse still being worked on or was it just kinda forgotten by the great devs?
How about the GPS? Does samsung's GPS still blow chunks? Have had great success with my Inspire with all the mods and such, getting a perfect lock in a few seconds, hoping the Infuse is just up to par.
And what's all this with RPS file system? What does it do that makes the phone slower, and is there any way to convert to ext4? Pardon my complete lack of understanding, I don't understand any of this.
I really like the cyanogenmod ROM i've been running on my inspire -- is there going to be official support/love for the infuse or is it going to stay unofficial ports? No offense to the dev of the port, but it's just a question.
I'm not used to trade off's when modding my phone. I don't want to grab a ROM and sacrifice bluetooth or battery life. Would this be an issue with the Infuse?
Thanks!
PS: Sorry for duplicate threads, realized this is probably a better section for this.

We have lots of cool stuff here, but no much that is 'official' since we rely on ports, leaks, patches, and our outstanding developers. I have not missed CM7 at all since I came to the infuse. So much to flash and tweak and try!
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Do you think things will change once GB is officially out? Or am I late and is it already out haha.
If so I'll go through with this trade off, but I really don't want to trade out a high-traffic (regarding development anyways) device for one that relies solely on ports with no real "official" love from them.

Thread got moved while replying I think lol, I posted a reply while it was in Q&A... :-\

Don't worry madman I'll go check out your post -- appreciate any response at all!

berryman13 said:
Do you think things will change once GB is officially out? Or am I late and is it already out haha.
If so I'll go through with this trade off, but I really don't want to trade out a high-traffic (regarding development anyways) device for one that relies solely on ports with no real "official" love from them.
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Development will definitely pick up once official GB comes out, I know for sure that a few of the more popular Roms will get an "Official GB" update, not to mention it might spike interest in mainstream Roms such as CM7, MIUI (or atleast I'm hoping )
I think one of my favorite Infuse abilities is Linuxbozo's Hellraiser Rom, you can ports tons of JVQ Roms from other phones. Let's just say it's not easy to get bored with this phone.

xIC-MACIx said:
Development will definitely pick up once official GB comes out, I know for sure that a few of the more popular Roms will get an "Official GB" update, not to mention it might spike interest in mainstream Roms such as CM7, MIUI (or atleast I'm hoping )
I think one of my favorite Infuse abilities is Linuxbozo's Hellraiser Rom, you can ports tons of JVQ Roms from other phones. Let's just say it's not easy to get bored with this phone.
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Been looking at a ton of other threads and people seem to think GB won't be officially coming out -- but as that bootloader leak shows it seems it will.
What do you think? That's really the only thing holding me back -- whether or not GB will officially be released. I don't need a huge variety of ROM's; I cycled between 3 on my inspire. I just want a few really stable ones.

berryman13 said:
And what's all this with RPS file system? What does it do that makes the phone slower, and is there any way to convert to ext4? Pardon my complete lack of understanding, I don't understand any of this.
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Oh and most of the Roms here convert to ext4.
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berryman13 said:
Been looking at a ton of other threads and people seem to think GB won't be officially coming out -- but as that bootloader leak shows it seems it will.
What do you think? That's really the only thing holding me back -- whether or not GB will officially be released. I don't need a huge variety of ROM's; I cycled between 3 on my inspire. I just want a few really stable ones.
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It will, slowly but surely we've been getting more and more leaks. The past 3 weeks we have gotten a weekly leak compared to a monthly before
, basically this shows that sammy is hard at work trying to get us GB, they wouldn't invest the time if it wasn't going to happen.

xIC-MACIx said:
Oh and most of the Roms here convert to ext4.
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It will, slowly but surely we've been getting more and more leaks. The past 3 weeks we have gotten a weekly leak compared to a monthly before
, basically this shows that sammy is hard at work trying to get us GB, they wouldn't invest the time if it wasn't going to happen.
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Samsung hard at work for the community? Since when?
Thanks for the help! Lastly all I have to ask is GPS; does it have the issues that the captivate had?

berryman13 said:
Been looking at a ton of other threads and people seem to think GB won't be officially coming out -- but as that bootloader leak shows it seems it will.
What do you think? That's really the only thing holding me back -- whether or not GB will officially be released. I don't need a huge variety of ROM's; I cycled between 3 on my inspire. I just want a few really stable ones.
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There will be official GB, just the fact that we got bootloaders shows that Samsung is preparing to get GB fully ready to ship to AT&T, and since it's already bloated, all AT&T has to do is start OTA'ing it.
If you need to flash different ROM's then what we have now (I won't lie, the Rogers GB based ROM's aren't the best, but they function and are stable, but the AT&T GB based ones will be MUCH better.
Also, if you want to test more ROM's out, just grab LB's hellraiser, find a JVQ, JVR, anything that the thread lists you can flash, grab the ROM itself from the i9k, vibrant, captivate, and flash away! There's so many ROM possibilities thanks to LB (and all you other dev's that helped).

berryman13 said:
Samsung hard at work for the community? Since when?
Thanks for the help! Lastly all I have to ask is GPS; does it have the issues that the captivate had?
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Honestly...yes in my opinion,when my phone was stock but once I flashed Serendipity 7 with Angry GPS, it completley fixed the GPS issues I had. Really, any probs we have with the infuse IS fixed or WILL be fixed with official GB.

Longcat14 said:
Also, if you want to test more ROM's out, just grab LB's hellraiser, find a JVQ, JVR, anything that the thread lists you can flash, grab the ROM itself from the i9k, vibrant, captivate, and flash away! There's so many ROM possibilities thanks to LB (and all you other dev's that helped).
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Interesting; if it opens the doors completely then what's with the hubbub of developing infuse native roms if we can just take another phone's? Do the hellraiser-ported rom's function as if native, or are some features missing?

berryman13 said:
Interesting; if it opens the doors completely then what's with the hubbub of developing infuse native roms if we can just take another phone's? Do the hellraiser-ported rom's function as if native, or are some features missing?
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I might not be 100% correct but I'm pretty sure Hellraiser serves as a basis on which we then download non-infuse Roms, which means it optimizes it to work like a native rom with the infuse, it really is an awesome way to fulfill your "multiple rom addiction" that most of us have

xIC-MACIx said:
I might not be 100% correct but I'm pretty sure Hellraiser serves as a basis on which we then download non-infuse Roms, which means it optimizes it to work like a native rom with the infuse, it really is an awesome way to fulfill your "multiple rom addiction" that most of us have
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I'll definitely look into it! Thanks for the tip.

berryman13 said:
I'll definitely look into it! Thanks for the tip.
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No problem glad I could help

It's laughable at this point.

ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html

Well, it is a 3G phone, so there shouldn't be issues getting the radios working. I do find it amusing the type of the support these cheesy phones get though.
I don't want to get off topic, but I am curious what sort of CIQ and other potential spyware has been implemented in ICS. It seems a good opportunity for Google to embed CIQ deep within the framework, but alas, who knows.
The main two features of ICS that I think I would like, but don't need, is USB OTG and WiFi Direct.

spc_hicks09 said:
ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
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Smh we will never see it

I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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mikehal38 said:
I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Very good point!!!!

I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...

imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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Don't do it because of us! Do what you enjoy doing and share with us because your proud of your work.
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imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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You already know. Yes, we are eager for ICS/CM7.1/CM7.2/CM9...and everything under the sun that a working RIL would enable us. But, having said that, I think the vast majority of us place FUNCTION in front of FEATURES.
We, Android enthusists with the skills to flash but not actually dev, are like children and will never be satisfied. We need a healthy meal, but are going to whine to have candy for dinner every night. As a dev, you're more similar to our parent in this metaphor... Don't take it personally when we metaphorically say we hate you--we don't. We love you. We need your help to eat at all, so make sure it's the best meal you can provide.
Besides, if the RIL never comes, who bought this phone for Ice Cream Sandwich anyway? I bought this phone for 4G.

imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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imnuts, please don't take my post or the title the wrong way. I am in now way at all saying anything bad about what you do for this phone. Your work is very highly regarded in my book. I was just pointing out how crazy it is with all these ICS ports coming out now. I can promise you that I am grateful for all the work you do for us.

If you want an AOSP ROM, you shouldn't buy a Samsung phone.
Twice bitten for me. Neither of my Samsung phones has had an AOSP ROM.

As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.

xdadevnube said:
As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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AOSP tends to offer a faster experience, and better battery life. It does this by not having any carrier or OEM bloat anywhere. There is a lot of stuff added on to the stock ROM that cannot be removed. To give you an idea, a heavily debloated TW ROM for the Fascinate is usually ~160MB, give or take, where as a stock AOSP ROM is <100MB for the same Android version, GB in this case. That would mean that even the best debloated/cleaned up TouchWiz ROM is still going to have about 40% more useless junk in it than a stock AOSP ROM, and that junk slows down the system and drains the battery.

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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!

Droidianslip said:
Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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I agree with what you're saying mostly, but your post almost sounds like you expect Imnuts and Imoseyon to develop and post their work when they have zero obligation to develop and/or share any of their work in any way. If I wasn't so hard-pressed for cash, I would donate more to the devs. I will when I am able though.
One should also remember the short life cycle of smartphones. I am already looking forward to the Galaxy S III mostly for the display- SAMOLED III.
Also, I would like to be able to watch 480p Flash content in the browser without having to overclock, hopefully 720p Flash in the browser with the GS3.
Of course I would like my Charge to blaze along at its maximum potential, but there is a thin line between spending and wasting time on dated hardware. If you want the the best experience on a device, then it would be best to buy older hardware that it well-developed, like the Fascinate. I am willing to sacrifice for the perks of the Charge, like the SAMOLED+ display and 4G.

Jelly Bean

So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?

humfleetd said:
So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?
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We don't even have GINGERBREAD! This phone will never run Jellybean.

lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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We have source, we just don't have any developers.

Jax184 said:
We have source, we just don't have any developers.
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Sduvick and windxixi got pretty far into the porting process.
The problem is that while Samsung did indeed release source code to the linux kernel and select other bits, their source drop was a mess. There are a huge number of differences between the SK4G source and stock Froyo kernel source.
Someone who was very familiar with the changes between Froyo and Gingerbread could probably move the process further along. But no one with that knowledge has taken interest in the SK4G, and as time passes any such knowledge wil fade.

It's a shame. I have the money to buy any phone I want, and that is the SK4G. To me, it's ergonomics (keyboard-design / 4-main-hard-buttons) have not been topped by any phone on any carrier at any price.

If I had the time to learn just how to do all the stuff required, I'd gladly spend the time porting JB to the Sidekick.

I was of the impression that not all the driver source had been released

Code wise the device is a trainwreck hahaha

Also, it's not like sduvick, windxixi, or Samsung spent any time commenting their code. There's no documentation to speak of. It's a cluster*@#&*.

rpmccormick said:
lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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What a shame. This is a pretty kick ass phone. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And yes, I understand you're making fun of me for asking. But thanks all the same.:crying:

Misleading title :/

Ok, so i know I've been away for A LONG time now, but, bear with me. Instead of put a bounty like most sections do to get 2.3, 4.0 and possibly jellybean, how about we just chip in a SK4G. I know that might be a big give away, but the main reason i didn't think developers where interested in this phone is because,
1) It kinda had barely any advertising, and when it did it was fairly short.
2) It's a budget phone for people that want a smart phone, like me and many others now a days.
3) During the time this came out their where many other big phone being released like the Galaxy S2.
So why don't we try to scout out a developer that can help us with this by offering a SK4G for them to work on, maybe even get this portal worthy as bounty.

I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.

mjsell2 said:
I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.
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And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
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This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.

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And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
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I agree, i kinda gave up hope on anything past GB on this phone. But to be honest, i can see this phone coming back next year because of how popular it was when it did hit the market for the first few months. If they do make a another android sidekick i will be willing to buy it just to see if they worked out the kinks and not make another Frankenstein of a phone. Also i will be willing to throw in some money, and if i have to i can look into providing a Sidekick 4g.
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This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.
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Q3 of phones is basically passed, Q4 nothing major is really coming out besides the rumored Note 2. Other than that right now its Galaxy S3 and One X, which in my eyes the One X might have the S3 beat if we can get the source code for the One X. But other than that, i dont have high expectations for Q4.

I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.

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I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.
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I actually sold my mytouch 3g slide to get this phone . Like this phone is a big upgrade from it, but Dev wise, not even close. 3g slide has gb , ics and jb . And the specs on that phone are not up there. Kinda makes me want my slide back XP , but hey, I did it for the a/v out , 267 ppi lcd, hummingbird gpu and 1 ghz processor XP
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I wonder if this phone is getting key lime pie..
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Why did i ever trade?!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678524
well, the mytouch 4g now has a almost completely fully functioning JB ROM and the g2x has a half-assed alpha test (sorry, EB team, not trying to belittle your work). grrrr. bout to go trade for a 4g slide. what really eats me, is that the G2x is a superior phone hardware wise to most phones even now. and definitively better than the mytouch. I feel the g2x community has fallen apart and due to that, there will never be a completely functional well.....anything. we should be all working together to iron out the wrinkles in JB not fighting over who developed what first or who can or cant use what code....I'm sorry, but who gives a flying f*** about the code when nothing since froyo has actually been 100% stable and functional on our devices?
im sorry, im just a bit meeved that i traded now. the reason why is in the specs of our phone:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/T-Mobile-G2x-vs-T-Mobile-myTouch-4G
and the state of our community as G2x owners:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784980
I'm sure i'll be flamed, shunned, and burned for this thread but i really dont care. i like my G2x despite its many downfalls. i want to see it prosper and run JB and other future versions of android.
thanks for reading.
/rant

Stop whining and try doing some of the work yourself.
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alrighty, teach me to code than. lol

Learning to do some of this coding for the G2x is what I am trying to research now. Just have to keep reading and start playing around. I am way behind the other developers here and I'm not going to learn as fast as I want to but I will try because I love this phone.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.

I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.

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I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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Lebron and the heat whooped the **** outta OKC. lol

Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.
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Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.

Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.

moeahmad1995 said:
Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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you sir....are wrong.
I.R.Chevy said:
Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.
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yeah. i needs my GPS, thats a game changer for me. im still reading all the stuff that CM suggests before doing anything. baby steps. gonna try and compile a new APK before i take on a ROM.
vmartinez39 said:
Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.
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thats exactly what i was saying. this is the best phone i have ever owned hardware wise. Yes, this is mostly Nvidia & LG's fault, but its still frustrating. my fiancee just got the blaze and its ok. its pretty snappy, but when my G2x is on stock rom, it stomps it... no questions asked. and yeah, the GPS bug is what i was talking abot from pre v21y. also, it is really a pain in the a$$ just to figure out how to downgrade basebands, let alone actually do it. alas, the g2x is my daily driver so i need it to preform well and be stable. that means i need bluetooth calling, working GPS, MMS, all that.

Yeah... Can't argue with you there. The G2x is a POS. I traded my MT4G for this phone too, while I don't really regret it since I got more money once I sold the G2x, the MT4G was far more reliable and every ROM just worked on it.
Either way, it was a lesson learned to never buy another LG phone no matter what the specs are. Samsung and HTC is the way to go from now on. Or better yet, Nexus!

mackster248 said:
The G2x is a POS.
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Disagree. Gingerbread 2.3.3 stunk on the G2x, and Nvidia's policy of keeping its drivers "closed-source" sucks!
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Or better yet, Nexus!
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Strongly agree! For $350, I know what I'd buy in a second if my G2x took a crap on me. Still, considering my 2 year contract came with a "free" G2x on each line nearly a year ago - I am not complaining. By the way, stock based 2.3.4 Gingerbread ROMs define stable for me (Thanks Kwes and Buru). However, I suppose I like a little instability in my life though since I married a woman?!? and use CM7 ROMs!?!:silly:

i've been seriously condsidering getting a loan and buying a nexus, than cancelling with t-mobile lol it'd probably be cheaper in the long run.

It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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redmonke255 said:
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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redmonke255 said:
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/259660/googles_16gb_nexus_7_disappears_from_play_store.html
cant. and it doesnt have an sd slot. thats BS. wtf???

Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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xeroy said:
Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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check my sig. lol
and its ICS so i got google now on that ishhh. i wish we could get stock voice search though. the workaround blows.