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What is the attraction to CM7?

These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.

I thought the topic was taken down.
Edit: Nevermind, the topic is still there. Imo though, I think it should be taken down and only progress be shown. Might prevent the massive amounts of bricking and general failure to read directions.
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Its actually pretty stable and works great long as you read step by step.
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Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.

Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.

41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.

41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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miahsoul said:
I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
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Tough luck brah.
Flashed Andromeda 1.0 for my first ROM. Worked like a charm.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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People are people and
It's Gingerbread!!

Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.

lightswitch2159 said:
Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
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And exactly what is in Gingerbread that makes salivating fools out of so many?

phrenicthenub said:
Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
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Yeah, but too many of those people are ending up in here looking for help when it goes bad. It just takes up space and energy better used to solve issues with actual working ROMs. Let the Devs do the development work that they're so good at.

Probably because CM is a big name dev and people think it'll be superior to what they're currently using, oh, and like it was said earlier, Gingerbread... I don't see what the huge fuss is about with Gingerbread, nothing huge has changed from Froyo and Ice Cream is already in development so I think Gingerbread will turn out to be like the early 2.0 Eclair build, something to skip over until a big update is available.
CM isn't what it used to be back in its hayday with the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic, so I'm not sure what people are expecting... Nothing against the CM team of course, the entire team does great work even if the releases are taking a really long time compared to before.
I'll be waiting it out, if I get an official Gingerbread update for either of my phones, I'll do them, otherwise I'm going to wait for the next big update which is actually worth installing... But I agree, there seems to be a huge deal about a simple update for no apparent reason at all, Its not like the Eclair > Froyo update which improved performance by a good margin, so really, there isn't much to gain by installing Gingerbread other than a few UI improvements (which most of us won't see anyways since we all use 3rd party launchers).

Here's a perfect example of how dangerous this place can be sometimes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11894653&postcount=8
She just joined, just got a Captivate and already she's asking about flashing CM7. Apparently, none of the warnings were enough, she's willing to take the advice of absolute strangers, some who are willing to push her onward.

It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones

Miami_Son said:
These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
modest_mandroid said:
It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.

If people refuse to heed warnings, its their own fault.
As for Gingerbread, I can't speak for the others, but I want SIP support.

JVM improvements
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.

egypt3 said:
I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
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Yes, that cursed crt animation. Was drooling over it on preview vid.
The risk of bricking my everyday phone w/o a jig prevents me from doing so.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.

bravomail said:
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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flashman2002 said:
There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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True, but while every ROM has its share of issues, I see more posts from people who tried to flash CM7 and had it go horribly wrong than any other. It is a completely different animal as far as flashing goes.

It's laughable at this point.

ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html

Well, it is a 3G phone, so there shouldn't be issues getting the radios working. I do find it amusing the type of the support these cheesy phones get though.
I don't want to get off topic, but I am curious what sort of CIQ and other potential spyware has been implemented in ICS. It seems a good opportunity for Google to embed CIQ deep within the framework, but alas, who knows.
The main two features of ICS that I think I would like, but don't need, is USB OTG and WiFi Direct.

spc_hicks09 said:
ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
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Smh we will never see it

I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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mikehal38 said:
I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Very good point!!!!

I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...

imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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Don't do it because of us! Do what you enjoy doing and share with us because your proud of your work.
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imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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You already know. Yes, we are eager for ICS/CM7.1/CM7.2/CM9...and everything under the sun that a working RIL would enable us. But, having said that, I think the vast majority of us place FUNCTION in front of FEATURES.
We, Android enthusists with the skills to flash but not actually dev, are like children and will never be satisfied. We need a healthy meal, but are going to whine to have candy for dinner every night. As a dev, you're more similar to our parent in this metaphor... Don't take it personally when we metaphorically say we hate you--we don't. We love you. We need your help to eat at all, so make sure it's the best meal you can provide.
Besides, if the RIL never comes, who bought this phone for Ice Cream Sandwich anyway? I bought this phone for 4G.

imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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imnuts, please don't take my post or the title the wrong way. I am in now way at all saying anything bad about what you do for this phone. Your work is very highly regarded in my book. I was just pointing out how crazy it is with all these ICS ports coming out now. I can promise you that I am grateful for all the work you do for us.

If you want an AOSP ROM, you shouldn't buy a Samsung phone.
Twice bitten for me. Neither of my Samsung phones has had an AOSP ROM.

As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.

xdadevnube said:
As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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AOSP tends to offer a faster experience, and better battery life. It does this by not having any carrier or OEM bloat anywhere. There is a lot of stuff added on to the stock ROM that cannot be removed. To give you an idea, a heavily debloated TW ROM for the Fascinate is usually ~160MB, give or take, where as a stock AOSP ROM is <100MB for the same Android version, GB in this case. That would mean that even the best debloated/cleaned up TouchWiz ROM is still going to have about 40% more useless junk in it than a stock AOSP ROM, and that junk slows down the system and drains the battery.

mikehal38 said:
I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!

Droidianslip said:
Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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I agree with what you're saying mostly, but your post almost sounds like you expect Imnuts and Imoseyon to develop and post their work when they have zero obligation to develop and/or share any of their work in any way. If I wasn't so hard-pressed for cash, I would donate more to the devs. I will when I am able though.
One should also remember the short life cycle of smartphones. I am already looking forward to the Galaxy S III mostly for the display- SAMOLED III.
Also, I would like to be able to watch 480p Flash content in the browser without having to overclock, hopefully 720p Flash in the browser with the GS3.
Of course I would like my Charge to blaze along at its maximum potential, but there is a thin line between spending and wasting time on dated hardware. If you want the the best experience on a device, then it would be best to buy older hardware that it well-developed, like the Fascinate. I am willing to sacrifice for the perks of the Charge, like the SAMOLED+ display and 4G.

Samsung Announces its ICS Upgrade Plan.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
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B Dizzle said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
F*ck this phone! Selling now.
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If you're too impatient for us devs to get cm7 and/or cm9 ported to this phone, then we'll be glad to see you go.
Good Luck!

Really? Was that really necessary, op?
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It hurts me a little in the inside seeing that, but I'll live. This phone has been great, don't diss it!
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My comment may have been a little harsh and I will delete it. Seriously though, this phone will always be one step behind the rest. It is a great device and it's hardware specs fall in line with those receiving ICS. Samsung just got Ginger out to us and how long has that been out?
I do appreciate all the work the Devs have done and are doing. Without you guys this phone would be completely dead. Currently though it is half dead and time to sell based on Samsung's decision.

I have the feeling this phone will get ICS through other channels, but that remains to be seen, for one, and the lack of support for this device from Samsung is really the point here, for two.
With the Android Update Alliance a clear attempt to simply stay concerns for fragmentation and lacking, irresponsible product support shining so clearly through it's remains, I am very glad to have kept this phone and to have supported developers that are on my team, and not just pretending to be. Sell? NO WAI.
What outcome does that hold? More money to Samsung for the seemingly delicious SGS2? Or better yet, complaining about the unhealthy support at the device deli I am seats at, only to cross the street and put money down to bite on another manufacturer's mis-advertised meal?
No no, my question remains.
Where's the beef? It goes unanswered.
Except here at XDA. Where support means putting my money where my mouth is. Raver, Hawk, and Co. can expect their christmas bonus. The money I won't spend on empty promises can go to those who were promised nothing, promised nothing, and delivered anyways.
May all your device purchases be used, may all your developers get their just rewards, and may all your manufacturers have their feet held close to the fire.
Merry Christmas to XDA, and to all abused consumers on Android who haven't wised up to where your dollars belong, a swift flight.
I am happy to stay right here, of new devices steer clear, and to upgrade eventually without fear - all thanks to the community found so near. Two clicks to XDA!
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ooh, that's a cheap move by Sammy. All they care about is cash. They are quite aware that this phone will run ICS almost as well as gs2, not counting the dual core thing. If not that, it will still be as fast if not faster than GB on this. Oh well, at least we will get CM7. I don't know about cm9 because we might have the same kernel source issue. Oh well, maybe ill get the next of the nexuses. Maybe with "jolly rancher" or something similar. Maybe 4.1 or 5.0.
Anyway, those who are average and don't mod their android phones who get the ICS update ota from Samsung won't even notice it is different because touchwiz would kill it anyway.
Edit: nice poem aldreth. You posted before me, so I didn't see it previously.
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Did sammy ever even promise us GB? I don't recall one being made, and with ICS on the horizon, our chances were looking less and less likely. The plans for the SGS4G may not have been announced, but there is still a slight chance. i'll get my ICS soon enough, whether it be with this device or another.
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B Dizzle said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
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Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.

Slick ass movie by samsung. Them ****s want us to buy another phone.

@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.

bswann said:
@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
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There are a few devs working on it, if we could only work together... Thats another story.
bswann said:
I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.
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I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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bhundven said:
I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms? I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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bswann said:
I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms?
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With a newer kernel, one would only expect bugfixes, performance fixes, and new features (like host usb support, new arm hibernation support, and a ton of others...)
With a newer android, I know there are bugs that I opened with AOSP that are fixed in ICS. So that would be nice to be able to test the resolution of the bugs I opened. Lots of other android specific fixes, performance improvements, and new features.
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I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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Sh*t, I'm not going to tell you what to do or whatever. Do what you want.
I'll bet you'll be impressed when you use it, but work will need to be done before we can get there... so...

error666 said:
Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.

airfluip1 said:
You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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Agreed CM7 is my daily driver on my G2 and its amazing so i am incredibly ecstatic theres a chance i could get it on here too thanks to all devs we dont need sammy we got something a hell of alot better in our devs here
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airfluip1 said:
You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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I was basing what I said off of " don't fix something that's not broken ". I just don't see enough improvements ( software-wise ) to make me wanna switch from ( hopefully soon ) CM7 to ICS or even Tehgyb's Rom I am on now to ICS. I love Android and I loved having CM7 on all of my devices, I still have an Optimus V and Incredible S running CM7 and I was really disappointed when I got this phone and there was not a CM7 for it which blew me away as seeing as this is a Galaxy S phone. I'm not saying ICS is not good, I'm just saying that talking and reading about it hasn't done anything to me to make me want to use it. Of course I will try it the first day it is available for this phone and I probaly will say " Damn, this is nice! " but, until I can use it for myself and not just read about it, I'm going to stick with my point.
@Airfluip1, I will never own an iAnything.

bswann, since no one has actually answered your question about what features ICS has that GB does not, you can try reading these articles to get a better idea:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review
To the user, it seems like it's mostly UI improvements, making certain tasks easier to perform and monitor. Also, I heard ICS will automatically adjust to whatever screen resolution it runs on, so you won't need a different version to run on a phone vs a tablet (like honeycomb).
It seems the backend has been restructured as well, and while this probably won't be visible to the user, we can only assume that it will make the system run smoother and faster as a whole. I hope so, anyway.
So really, in a nutshell, ICS probably won't give your phone a bunch of features it doesn't have already, but it should make things run smoother, faster, and easier.
I'm not on contract, so I might upgrade IF I feel that ICS offers some things I can't live without, and I will get to test it soon on my HP Touchpad (CM team is working on a port right now). But for now, GB serves me well on my GS4G.

ICS
All i know is that my fast phone was made faster by the dev's here. Most of us appreciate the time spent as I enjoy sampling all the rom's.
If someone can port the ICS to our phone I am sure it will be that much better.
Thanks and Happy Holidays.
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Devs are already working on CM7. Just give it some time. In the future I'll be developing for this phone as well.

[Q] CyanogenMod 10

so I installed this rom and it's working great. i stil get data drop and my shopkick app not working but the rom is must try. any fix for the app? already tries re-installing it

How about... using gingerbread instead.
If you need an app to work, or your phone to fully work, don't use experimental builds... thought that'd be pretty obvious.
Also, questions belong in.... the questions section.

buru898 said:
How about... using gingerbread instead.
If you need an app to work, or your phone to fully work, don't use experimental builds... thought that'd be pretty obvious.
Also, questions belong in.... the questions section.
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Isn't "How about.....using gingerbread instead" a question. Wait I just asked a question. Oh no!!!! It's a never ending conundrum. I give up.

xXCrossCheckXx said:
Isn't "How about.....using gingerbread instead" a question. Wait I just asked a question. Oh no!!!! It's a never ending conundrum. I give up.
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No, that wasn't a question, that was a suggestion.
He complains about an app not working while on a build where it's considered beta/alpha so I SUGGESTED to use a ROM that's fully functional such as gingerbread where everything works.
What you posted was pure nonsense and a means just to troll.

buru898 said:
No, that wasn't a question, that was a suggestion.
He complains about an app not working while on a build where it's considered beta/alpha so I SUGGESTED to use a ROM that's fully functional such as gingerbread where everything works.
What you posted was pure nonsense and a means just to troll.
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For people like myself Gingerbread isn't the best answer. I can't get my work email on a phone running Gingerbread due to security issues. So the better option would be why can't we force the manufactures and carriers to support the phones through the 2 year contract at which we sign. But that's why IF I buy another Android phone it will be a Nexus or I'll go back to Apple as much as I hate Apple users at least I know I'll get my updates to fix security problems.

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For people like myself Gingerbread isn't the best answer. I can't get my work email on a phone running Gingerbread due to security issues. So the better option would be why can't we force the manufactures and carriers to support the phones through the 2 year contract at which we sign. But that's why IF I buy another Android phone it will be a Nexus or I'll go back to Apple as much as I hate Apple users at least I know I'll get my updates to fix security problems.
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Yeah that's the only bad thing... this phone is already considered outdated... which sucks because it really isn't.
The best option for this phone is going to be Gingerbread... if you want/need the most stable, which does suck :/.

buru898 said:
Yeah that's the only bad thing... this phone is already considered outdated... which sucks because it really isn't.
The best option for this phone is going to be Gingerbread... if you want/need the most stable, which does suck :/.
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Exactly. Unfortunately for us, the most Feature-Rich, stable phone with all the working bells and whistles for us is a GB ROM. With the release of the SU660 ICS ROM, I truly believe we'll hit a time in the near future (1-2 months) where we will have a stable, Feature-Rich ICS ROM for the G2X. That will lead to a very nice JB ROM once the devs exercise their brain muscle some (They are good at it, I'm just a wanna-be Dev.)
As it has always been for us, it's a waiting game. I'm confident we'll get there, but it's gonna be a while.

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Exactly. Unfortunately for us, the most Feature-Rich, stable phone with all the working bells and whistles for us is a GB ROM. With the release of the SU660 ICS ROM, I truly believe we'll hit a time in the near future (1-2 months) where we will have a stable, Feature-Rich ICS ROM for the G2X. That will lead to a very nice JB ROM once the devs exercise their brain muscle some (They are good at it, I'm just a wanna-be Dev.)
As it has always been for us, it's a waiting game. I'm confident we'll get there, but it's gonna be a while.
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Yes sir...
We really "should" be getting ICS soon... so just hold out a little longer :/.

thanks for all the help. so going to get gingerbread .

Blaze 4G Modem

Flashed this modem based on reports that it would improve 4G speeds and reception. Now my phone refuses to connect to data at ALL. Going to re-flash old modem. Wanted to see if anyone else has heard of this, or if I missed something other than flashing the zip from CWM?

Check your APN settings. New modems are installed by flashing a zip in CWM. You got it right.

orange808 said:
Check your APN settings. New modems are installed by flashing a zip in CWM. You got it right.
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That was the first thing I checked. Everything looked fine. Went back and flashed the KD1 modem. Works great but not nearly like the claims of the blaze modem. I feel like it's an elaborate hoax.

jcurtiswood said:
That was the first thing I checked. Everything looked fine. Went back and flashed the KD1 modem. Works great but not nearly like the claims of the blaze modem. I feel like it's an elaborate hoax.
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<shrug>
People see what they want to see.

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People see what they want to see.
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Just mean that I tried several times to flash the zip and each time it zapped my connectivity. I compared the hashes and it downloaded correctly. Not sure what the problem is.

jcurtiswood said:
Just mean that I tried several times to flash the zip and each time it zapped my connectivity. I compared the hashes and it downloaded correctly. Not sure what the problem is.
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I meant people see what they want to see when they mod their phones.
Not being able to use this modem isn't costing you much in the way of performance. The stock KJ2 was more reliable (at least in my area). The biggest bottleneck to network performance is on t-mo's end. In theory, this phone should see better speeds as they upgrade the network itself.
Do you have connectivity problems with roms that have this modem baked in?

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I meant people see what they want to see when they mod their phones.
Not being able to use this modem isn't costing you much in the way of performance. The stock KJ2 was more reliable (at least in my area). The biggest bottleneck to network performance is on t-mo's end. In theory, this phone should see better speeds as they upgrade the network itself.
Do you have connectivity problems with roms that have this modem baked in?
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Oh I gotcha. I'm about to switch over ROMs from GG3.8 to something else. I haven't been too happy with any of the custom ROMs I've found on here. Most of them are only supported for 2 weeks before the devs go A.D.D. and start making something else. The few that have survived the longest have changed hands so many times that I worry about all of the overlooked problems and inherited glitches in code that may never get worked out. I wish someone would actually work on developing, rather than minor tweaks and skins. Most of the ROMs are copies of other ROMs but with new skins baked in.
I haven't noticed any huge problems with ROMs using the KJ2 modem other than low signal strength. I know that it was mostly on Tmo's end of things, but I figured any little boost I can get would help as I live in a somewhat rural area.

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Oh I gotcha. I'm about to switch over ROMs from GG3.8 to something else. I haven't been too happy with any of the custom ROMs I've found on here. Most of them are only supported for 2 weeks before the devs go A.D.D. and start making something else. The few that have survived the longest have changed hands so many times that I worry about all of the overlooked problems and inherited glitches in code that may never get worked out. I wish someone would actually work on developing, rather than minor tweaks and skins. Most of the ROMs are copies of other ROMs but with new skins baked in.
I haven't noticed any huge problems with ROMs using the KJ2 modem other than low signal strength. I know that it was mostly on Tmo's end of things, but I figured any little boost I can get would help as I live in a somewhat rural area.
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What can I tell ya...if it's so easy I'd like to see you sit down and come up with something new. If you don't want to wait until bhundven finishes all the hard work he is doing for us, just buy another phone and jump to another section of xda, dude.
I'll be retiring from the custom rom thing, anyway. Good luck and take care!

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btw, the roms for this phone do suck. sadly this phone never got any really good developers it would seem. it had a few good ones but they all left because this phone sucks.

SurvivorZer0 said:
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???....hahaha!
Annnnyway.... sorry for being rude. It is frustrating to run into those limitations with this phone.
Believe me... if I had a good computer, I'd be hacking the source and compiling.
Once again, I apologize. That was wrong of me.
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btw, the roms for this phone do suck. sadly this phone never got any really good developers it would seem. it had a few good ones but they all left because this phone sucks.
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Thanks for your input. Of course they suck. We made the roms suck on purpose just to annoy you. Lol.
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Well, I certainly hope you never publish any apps with that thin skin. You should see the reviews that devs have to read through..
Have a good one.

orange808 said:
Well, I certainly hope you never publish any apps with that thin skin. You should see the reviews that devs have to read through..
Have a good one.
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Hahaha....I'm back. New and improved Joker product. With a new secret ingredient: Smylex

RicAndroid said:
What can I tell ya...if it's so easy I'd like to see you sit down and come up with something new. If you don't want to wait until bhundven finishes all the hard work he is doing for us, just buy another phone and jump to another section of xda, dude.
I'll be retiring from the custom rom thing, anyway. Good luck and take care!
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I'm sorry. I didn't meant to offend. I've tried several ROMs, a few of them you've worked on. A lot of them I've really enjoyed for a while. What I've found is that a lot of modifications to the firmware and kernel have had negative effects on the stability of each ROM. Almost all I've tried have had trouble with radio dormancy - switching from WIFI to 4G have prevented the radio reactivating - forcing me to reboot often.
At one point, several "developers" have had multiple ROMs going at once. This can be done if one keeps considerable documentation for each project. If not, though, how the hell can you juggle that many projects without making considerable mistakes?
I've seen good work done by a lot of the devs on here, so I'm not bashing. But support for each ROM only lasts about two weeks MAX and then they cook some new ROM without fixing the previous one - and the cycle repeats all over again. It takes Android fragmentation to the extreme.
Take my criticism as an insult if you want, but it was only intended as a critique of the dev environment in general.
Currently I'm rolling stock KJ2, rooted, with all of the useless bloat removed.

jcurtiswood said:
I'm sorry. I didn't meant to offend. I've tried several ROMs, a few of them you've worked on. A lot of them I've really enjoyed for a while. What I've found is that a lot of modifications to the firmware and kernel have had negative effects on the stability of each ROM. Almost all I've tried have had trouble with radio dormancy - switching from WIFI to 4G have prevented the radio reactivating - forcing me to reboot often.
At one point, several "developers" have had multiple ROMs going at once. This can be done if one keeps considerable documentation for each project. If not, though, how the hell can you juggle that many projects without making considerable mistakes?
I've seen good work done by a lot of the devs on here, so I'm not bashing. But support for each ROM only lasts about two weeks MAX and then they cook some new ROM without fixing the previous one - and the cycle repeats all over again. It takes Android fragmentation to the extreme.
Take my criticism as an insult if you want, but it was only intended as a critique of the dev environment in general.
Currently I'm rolling stock KJ2, rooted, with all of the useless bloat removed.
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Nah...no insult taken. My bad for being overly sensitive. I have noticed that the firmware on this phone just doesn't react very well to alterations.
Any slight deviation from the original structure just causes slight bugs and boot loops. My wife has a G2X with CyanogenMod 7.2 and it is so much more flexible.
I tried many experiments with init.d scripts to increase app storage, which work on the G2X BTW, with resulted in epic fails.
Let's see what bhundven can do to make this phone into what it should be.
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RicAndroid said:
Nah...no insult taken. My bad for being overly sensitive. I have noticed that the firmware on this phone just doesn't react very well to alterations.
Any slight deviation from the original structure just causes slight bugs and boot loops. My wife has a G2X with CyanogenMod 7.2 and it is so much more flexible.
I tried many experiments with init.d scripts to increase app storage, which work on the G2X BTW, with resulted in epic fails.
Let's see what bhundven can do to make this phone into what it should be.
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I'm hoping that he can hack something together. Else I think I'm just going to save up some cash and upgrade. If we could just get a GB equivalent version of CM on here I'd be set! Just missing out on a lot of good apps because I don't have the cash to drop on a new phone for a while. College student financials, you know what I mean?

jcurtiswood said:
I'm hoping that he can hack something together. Else I think I'm just going to save up some cash and upgrade. If we could just get a GB equivalent version of CM on here I'd be set! Just missing out on a lot of good apps because I don't have the cash to drop on a new phone for a while. College student financials, you know what I mean?
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That would be CM 7. That would be great but I'll be happy with CM 6.2. Yeah, it's still Froyo but at least the foundation would be set. It'll clean up the mess and the development would increase substantially.
It's weird. When you look at this hardware and compare it to the Nexus S and the Epic 4G, it is just so similar. I use the Epic themes and it just matches up perfectly. There is no doubt that JB would run on this without any problems.
I also cannot afford a new phone right now. Our day will arrive... and when it does, this phone will be almost like the Relay.
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RicAndroid said:
That would be CM 7. That would be great but I'll be happy with CM 6.2. Yeah, it's still Froyo but at least the foundation would be set. It'll clean up the mess and the development would increase substantially.
It's weird. When you look at this hardware and compare it to the Nexus S and the Epic 4G, it is just so similar. I use the Epic themes and it just matches up perfectly. There is no doubt that JB would run on this without any problems.
I also cannot afford a new phone right now. Our day will arrive... and when it does, this phone will be almost like the Relay.
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When your contract is up, call T-mo and let them know they sold you a "T-Mobile" BRANDED product. You bought the T-Mobile Sidekick 4G and you got stuck with crummy software. They allowed you to be abandoned in Samsung Touchwiz hades. Now, I'm not worrying about "how a dev devs", but AOSP isn't happening. Just get a Relay. If you explain what happened to you, they will probably cut you a sweetheart deal. Keep your Sidekick around and you can still use the keyboard to hack out code, write, and surf message boards on WiFi.

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When your contract is up, call T-mo and let them know they sold you a "T-Mobile" BRANDED product. You bought the T-Mobile Sidekick 4G and you got stuck with crummy software. They allowed you to be abandoned in Samsung Touchwiz hades. Now, I'm not worrying about "how a dev devs", but AOSP isn't happening. Just get a Relay. If you explain what happened to you, they will probably cut you a sweetheart deal. Keep your Sidekick around and you can still use the keyboard to hack out code, write, and surf message boards on WiFi.
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At the moment I got this phone, I was trying to decide between this and the myTouch 4G Slide. I was attracted to the full qwerty layout and was impressed with ayoteddy's work.
I look back now and regret not spending the extra cash. I still like the Sidekick but find myself hiding it from my coworkers at the T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico.
They are flaunting their Galaxies and HTCs running CyanogenMod 10....and I'm here with themes. LoL.
I will have a one year discount coming up and will take your advice. It is ashame that Samsung have clueless tools responding to emails so sending complaints would be pointless.
I am not losing faith in bhundven, however. He may be able to make this phone rise from the ashes.
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Just as a note for other Sidekick owners, I specifically asked the T-Mo rep I spoke to about selling a phone with a two year contract tha wasn't actually viable for two years. Froyo literally destroys your options on the Play Store and I have been forced to use old versions of almost every app on my device--just to get combatibility and stability. Considering I went through the additional effort of partially porting my own AOSP, I think I did everything I could... Maybe I came up short because I didn't spend enough time and maybe I could have given up more free time, but that's not really fair. I should have gotten Gingerbread. That was my case for an extra discount on my Relay.

RicAndroid said:
At the moment I got this phone, I was trying to decide between this and the myTouch 4G Slide. I was attracted to the full qwerty layout and was impressed with ayoteddy's work.
I look back now and regret not spending the extra cash. I still like the Sidekick but find myself hiding it from my coworkers at the T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico.
They are flaunting their Galaxies and HTCs running CyanogenMod 10....and I'm here with themes. LoL.
I will have a one year discount coming up and will take your advice. It is ashame that Samsung have clueless tools responding to emails so sending complaints would be pointless.
I am not losing faith in bhundven, however. He may be able to make this phone rise from the ashes.
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I spoke to bhundven, if any work gets done on it, it's gonna be sometime. He's got life to deal with. I told him to hold onto it until he manages to come across some time. No rushes. We're lucky this forum didn't end up in legacy devices after all. We had AdamOutler and krylon360 work on our phone. So we weren't left in the dark like some phones for companies like MetroPCS.