As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I still love mine after just over a year with it. Some of the ROMs are a bit quirky but some are super nice. I'd save the upgrade for something later. Mine is coming in December and I am tempted to go GSIII or Note II. If there is something awesome on the horizon I'll wait and keep this.
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thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I personally moved from a G2 to a MyTouch 4G Slide.
The camera is great. I enjoyed the stock ROM for a bit before taking the plunge.
If you can get a unit for $150, that is a good deal. From what I understand, the MT4GS is now "an old phone."
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Coug76 said:
... I'd save the upgrade for something later. ...
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Definitely don't burn your upgrade on a MyTouch 4G Slide.
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I have a MT4GS and recentally my wife got a Samsung Relay, which roughly takes the same spot in the T-Mobile lineup. Here are the pros/cons that I've noticed so far:
The MT4GS has a slide mechanism for the keyboard that IMHO is far superior, easier to open and close without it jamming as the Relay seems to tend to do;
The MT4GS feels more solid than the Relay, although this "solid" feeling comes with a bit of weight to it, although I do have an upgraded battery;
The Relay seems to have a better battery life, although I haven't tested side by side to analyze this in detail;
The MT4GS has active ROM development, including IMHO a nice CM 9.1 release, as well as Sense roms. Samsung phones obviously don't have sense.
I believe the Relay has been rooted already, but I haven't seen any solid third party ROM development yet, although signs are there will be some.
The relay has a dual S4 core (reports that it had the S3 were premature on this point), so is a bit faster than the dual S3 in the MT4GS, but not by such a huge amount that it will blow you away.
The Relay has a slightly larger screen, but again, not by so much that it will amaze you.
The Relay has ICS as the stock rom, while the MT4GS has GB. While you can put ICS on the MT4GS, it is nice to have a reasonably recent stock rom to fall back to. The flip side, is, as noted above, the relay doesn't have third party roms, so you simply don't have a choice at the moment.
My overall opinion is that for someone that likes playing with their phone, the MT4GS is a good choice for a tmobile slider today, although moving forward, the relay MAY take it's place for modding.
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Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Haah, I bought a little time ago that for 327,77 hardware+50 (shipment)+ 100 USD of duty..., because I prefer hardware keyboard, son-erric- is now good with Xperia -T LTE, but..without hardware keyboard. But Sony have really perfect build quality.
In EU this total price is normal for phone like MT4GS.....
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El.
I would stay away from the cheaper ones. Our phone has had a track record of screens going bad, so if the seller is willing to let it go for a really low price, there may be problems.
Source: I've seen tons of phones on ebay with bad screens. Get one that's been refurbished, or only a few months old in great shape. Most refurbs look mint, because HTC usually replaces the whole top half of the phone when screens go bad
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
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blackknightavalon said:
Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I only suggest our phone, because it has dev support and is much more affordable at this point. It takes at least a year for most android phones to start getting devs
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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How long have you had the device?
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Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2
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elpapagayo said:
Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Wait till the jellybean sense ROMs are released and you will see the most stable 2011 phone with jellybean OS installed
elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Make sure you don't confuse what I said. Inquisition is the most capable. But if you want the most bug free ICS rom there is, it has to be Primadonna.
Well, this phone does the job for me quite well. I use cm9 because I love the extras it provides compared to the other ROMs.
If you do get this phone [or basically any phone] it is a good idea to grab a higher capacity battery just for convenience sakes. I have not done so yet because I bought the phone with an extra stock battery so that works for me. But yes, I did notice when I first got the phone, that the battery life is not as resilient as some others. Then again I do use stock bat.- the tweaked cm9 is making some headway on the drain problem with the community's help.
I recently looked into what other T-mobile phones are out there and as it turned out, my specific search query on phonescoop based on what I want in a phone only resulted in the mytouch 4g slide lol. So this is the phone for me and I am happy with it.
just wanted to add my 2 cents. i came from a rooted G2 running CM7, this phone was very capable, and i loved the housing, the keyboard, and the display. i dropped this phone so many times, but never had a cracked screen or cracked housing.
the only phone i wanted to upgrade to was the MT4GS, mainly because of the qwerty keyboard, and advanced camera.
even though the MT4GS is discontinued, i held out till my girlfriend got an iphone, and she gave me her MT4GS, only reason she got rid of it, was because of random reboots, constant freezing etc.
i happily took it, rooted it, and am really enjoying the phone. my favorite thing being the camera. only thing i could ask for is slightly more system memory, but i really can't complain. the MT4GS seems more capable hardware wise then a lot of newer phones on the market.
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elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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Wow. Someone is full of themselves. Do you understand what XDA is founded on? Developers helping developers. Atleast those devs are doing something and trying to help out. It's people like you who show no appreciation for the devs work and just leech off them that makes devs not want to do it anymore. If you don't like any of the ROMs, do something about it. Either help them make it better or make your own ROM. I recommend the second, because then you'll see how disheartening it is for someone to bash your work that you spent hours and hours on.
Works well for me, no complaints
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elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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With all due respect, if you're getting no further into a link for a ROM than the 1st page you're not doing any of the research necessary to even find out if any of those initially listed glitches HAVE been fixed. And if not fixed in the original upload you'll miss those fixes & workarounds that have been discovered & explained by one of the other very capable developers we're lucky enough to have reside here & kindly teaching the rest of us. You TOO, if you don't mind doing some reading. Some ROMS have a couple hundred pages of research & further development added after the fact with things added for us very often in an individual obscure post. Virtuous Infinity is a PERFECT example. Download the things in the OP and you'll think the ROM kinda sux for it's length of development. But if you follow everything through to the end and follow all the directions you'll end up with a ROM you can make a nandroid of that will blow you away. To some extent, they are ALL like that.
MANY people come to XDA with a new phone with the idea that it's like going to a GM plant and waiting for just the one you've always looked for to roll out the door & drive away in. In actuality it's more like a trip to Lowes where you can take some idea you love into the store & ask the experts what tools you need, how to use them & why and end up with something to be VERY proud of. Of course that's JMHO.....
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I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?
I think part of it is LG's quick memory regarding it. Quick as in quick to forget it, and Nvidia won't release driver source so devs are forced to reuse the 2.3.3 release in order to get 100% functionality.
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I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?
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Some devs don't post updates on xda. Some of them give updatea via twitter or other sites. But it's not dead.
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Does anyone know if they will ever release new drivers? So basically until they do which is most likely never this phone has been as updated as possible? I noticed CM7 is still updating which means 2.3.6 so is there much chance of ICS? Finally who are some good people to follow on twitter for good roms? Thanks a ton guys!
due to overall problems
I believe there were many more developers that planned on developing for the g2x and bought the device to do so as i did.
But with so may problems at the start i just didnt want to even attempt to rom for this device and be blamed when the phone self destructed. after much tampering it is running pretty well but i just dont trust the phone and im sure there are some others that didnt work on the G2X for the same reason. There are some very good options out there and talented people that are working on the G2x. so dont be afraid due to low quanity because there is some high quality work done.
Not sure it will grow much since its been obvious that tmobile and lg's fix for the phone is to shutup until it goes away. But the roms have the phone running pretty well and you wont be disapointed, But i would wait until oct 12th and get the hercules(even without the samsung chip) will be a killer phone or the HTC coming out the same day with similar specs.
This phone works fabulously with CyanogenMod, EXCEPT that bluetooth audio (to a wireless headset or whatever) doesn't work.
Other than that, EVEYRYTHING works. Love this phone.
Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).
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barqers said:
Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).
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will be the best hope to get icecream running. if they do so than other rommers will also follow suite. but cm leads the way on drivers and such for most roms. so if they dont do it ussually noone does. But i wouldnt expect to see anything from LG, they have not shown anything in the way of skill or care to put out updates for their devices.
Because there ate stable ROMs out there and you can only do so much. Other lively dev sections ate deceiving - 20 variations of the stock ROM with different wallpapers and start up screens does not mean a lot of development for the phone.
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I've been running cm7 for about a month now and I'm really happy with it. Every other rom I try have issues and I always come back to cm7. It makes the g2x a very good phone IMO
There are plenty of devs to follow just some took some time off to dev for other devices ... I follow fitsnugly because he does some great compiling with his roms ... Morfic has some awesome kernals and faux123 has his aosp rom and awesome kernals... doniqq has his eaglesblood roms ... whitehawkx has weapon rom... so there's plenty ... I'm a crackflasher so I'm always running something different .... I felt the same way ..Was thinking of jumping ship to a different phone but I just live this phone... Just look around the forum.. there's always somthing ...
One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.
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One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.
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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...
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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...
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Yup. Work and personal for me too. I tried a few market apps but I just couldn't find something that I was happy with. It was kind of a deal breaker for me considering I really wanted to stick to CM7 for the ridiculous theme/customization options out there.
Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA
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Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA
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I was running this rom up until 5 minutes ago... I just reflashed fitsnuglys 9/27 kang... Dont get me wrong the 2.3.3 roms are great... There's just something about the cm7 and the kangs that I like... There's always something new added to them and for me they seem to make my phone run better ... Sure there's no LG camera but there's plenty of camera market apps..
Yeah, I see updates for ROMs pretty often, every 5-10days, that's a good release period, and if you want to use a ROM that is constantly being developed just run CM7, a lot of people say it's not good with battery but if you flash one of morfics kernels you will have great battery life. Some people run into issues with it but if you wipe everything you should be fine. Faux's AOSP Rom+Kernel run great together also.
While development might have slowed down a bit for this phone, there's still plenty of excellent devs and roms to choose from. I have always preferred faux's aosp rom/kernel combo for my daily stable/very reliable/great performing/battery life.
Now if you want to see no development look no further then the mytouch4g slide thread. That's just sad cuz even the og mt4g has tons of devs working on it and its still a great phone.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
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B Dizzle said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
Guess which phone is missing??
F*ck this phone! Selling now.
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If you're too impatient for us devs to get cm7 and/or cm9 ported to this phone, then we'll be glad to see you go.
Good Luck!
Really? Was that really necessary, op?
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It hurts me a little in the inside seeing that, but I'll live. This phone has been great, don't diss it!
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My comment may have been a little harsh and I will delete it. Seriously though, this phone will always be one step behind the rest. It is a great device and it's hardware specs fall in line with those receiving ICS. Samsung just got Ginger out to us and how long has that been out?
I do appreciate all the work the Devs have done and are doing. Without you guys this phone would be completely dead. Currently though it is half dead and time to sell based on Samsung's decision.
I have the feeling this phone will get ICS through other channels, but that remains to be seen, for one, and the lack of support for this device from Samsung is really the point here, for two.
With the Android Update Alliance a clear attempt to simply stay concerns for fragmentation and lacking, irresponsible product support shining so clearly through it's remains, I am very glad to have kept this phone and to have supported developers that are on my team, and not just pretending to be. Sell? NO WAI.
What outcome does that hold? More money to Samsung for the seemingly delicious SGS2? Or better yet, complaining about the unhealthy support at the device deli I am seats at, only to cross the street and put money down to bite on another manufacturer's mis-advertised meal?
No no, my question remains.
Where's the beef? It goes unanswered.
Except here at XDA. Where support means putting my money where my mouth is. Raver, Hawk, and Co. can expect their christmas bonus. The money I won't spend on empty promises can go to those who were promised nothing, promised nothing, and delivered anyways.
May all your device purchases be used, may all your developers get their just rewards, and may all your manufacturers have their feet held close to the fire.
Merry Christmas to XDA, and to all abused consumers on Android who haven't wised up to where your dollars belong, a swift flight.
I am happy to stay right here, of new devices steer clear, and to upgrade eventually without fear - all thanks to the community found so near. Two clicks to XDA!
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ooh, that's a cheap move by Sammy. All they care about is cash. They are quite aware that this phone will run ICS almost as well as gs2, not counting the dual core thing. If not that, it will still be as fast if not faster than GB on this. Oh well, at least we will get CM7. I don't know about cm9 because we might have the same kernel source issue. Oh well, maybe ill get the next of the nexuses. Maybe with "jolly rancher" or something similar. Maybe 4.1 or 5.0.
Anyway, those who are average and don't mod their android phones who get the ICS update ota from Samsung won't even notice it is different because touchwiz would kill it anyway.
Edit: nice poem aldreth. You posted before me, so I didn't see it previously.
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Did sammy ever even promise us GB? I don't recall one being made, and with ICS on the horizon, our chances were looking less and less likely. The plans for the SGS4G may not have been announced, but there is still a slight chance. i'll get my ICS soon enough, whether it be with this device or another.
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B Dizzle said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-for-galaxy-devices/
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Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.
Slick ass movie by samsung. Them ****s want us to buy another phone.
@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.
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@Airfluip1- You said we will at least get CM7, is that for sure? I mean is someone working on it now and is it official or un-official?
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There are a few devs working on it, if we could only work together... Thats another story.
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I do not see the point of ICS as it is basically only a cosmetic difference than what we are running now. The awesome devs here have already made Roms that outperform ICS on our phones. I would much rather see MIUI but, CM7 will be good too.
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I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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I'm actually speechless... Wow.
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I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms? I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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bswann said:
I guess what I should have said was how much better could ICS be versus what we have now with the custom Roms?
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With a newer kernel, one would only expect bugfixes, performance fixes, and new features (like host usb support, new arm hibernation support, and a ton of others...)
With a newer android, I know there are bugs that I opened with AOSP that are fixed in ICS. So that would be nice to be able to test the resolution of the bugs I opened. Lots of other android specific fixes, performance improvements, and new features.
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I mean my phone is seriously fast and will run anything I want, so what's the point? What could I do with ICS that I cannot do now?
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Sh*t, I'm not going to tell you what to do or whatever. Do what you want.
I'll bet you'll be impressed when you use it, but work will need to be done before we can get there... so...
error666 said:
Seriously???
May be a stupid question but what would you so need in ICS that GB cannot deliver? You realize that it's not gonna be any faster or better, right? I mean you're running on the same exact hardware and you'll see about the same level of performance out of it no matter which android os you're using.
Sorry, I just don't get this constant need to upgrade thing...
I know I'm upgrading the os when there's
1. a definite improvement in its performance
2. soft that runs on it and doesn't run on the older os
Meanwhile and probably for the next year or so everything will work fine with GB.
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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Agreed CM7 is my daily driver on my G2 and its amazing so i am incredibly ecstatic theres a chance i could get it on here too thanks to all devs we dont need sammy we got something a hell of alot better in our devs here
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You obviously don't love android as much as us.
If you don't care about what android, then go buy a used G1 or an iPhone.
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ICS is beautiful. Not just the eye-candy but the features are greater. I mean, if we get more Bhundvens, and etc working to make our phone as fast as a galaxy nexus, then if we get ICS, we can make it faster. Like I said though. Android love = loving and cherishing the updates. Every version will be better. But we should make the best of trying to get each version.(That's just me). Also, why MIUI, i love CM7 much better.(personal preference, maybe just what you like, I hate iPhone, just like MIUI, I love AOSP android, CM7)
But I guess we will get CM7 sometime. +1 to Bhundven.
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I was basing what I said off of " don't fix something that's not broken ". I just don't see enough improvements ( software-wise ) to make me wanna switch from ( hopefully soon ) CM7 to ICS or even Tehgyb's Rom I am on now to ICS. I love Android and I loved having CM7 on all of my devices, I still have an Optimus V and Incredible S running CM7 and I was really disappointed when I got this phone and there was not a CM7 for it which blew me away as seeing as this is a Galaxy S phone. I'm not saying ICS is not good, I'm just saying that talking and reading about it hasn't done anything to me to make me want to use it. Of course I will try it the first day it is available for this phone and I probaly will say " Damn, this is nice! " but, until I can use it for myself and not just read about it, I'm going to stick with my point.
@Airfluip1, I will never own an iAnything.
bswann, since no one has actually answered your question about what features ICS has that GB does not, you can try reading these articles to get a better idea:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review
To the user, it seems like it's mostly UI improvements, making certain tasks easier to perform and monitor. Also, I heard ICS will automatically adjust to whatever screen resolution it runs on, so you won't need a different version to run on a phone vs a tablet (like honeycomb).
It seems the backend has been restructured as well, and while this probably won't be visible to the user, we can only assume that it will make the system run smoother and faster as a whole. I hope so, anyway.
So really, in a nutshell, ICS probably won't give your phone a bunch of features it doesn't have already, but it should make things run smoother, faster, and easier.
I'm not on contract, so I might upgrade IF I feel that ICS offers some things I can't live without, and I will get to test it soon on my HP Touchpad (CM team is working on a port right now). But for now, GB serves me well on my GS4G.
ICS
All i know is that my fast phone was made faster by the dev's here. Most of us appreciate the time spent as I enjoy sampling all the rom's.
If someone can port the ICS to our phone I am sure it will be that much better.
Thanks and Happy Holidays.
kb
Devs are already working on CM7. Just give it some time. In the future I'll be developing for this phone as well.
Hello,
I currently have a SGS i9000, and was thinking of trading it for one of these phones as I'm not really content with the dead end Sammy is providing, and with the RIL and Camera being closed, CM7 is battery consuming and not very stable.
So I was wondering, is it any better here?
Lesiroth said:
Hello,
I currently have a SGS i9000, and was thinking of trading it for one of these phones as I'm not really content with the dead end Sammy is providing, and with the RIL and Camera being closed, CM7 is battery consuming and not very stable.
So I was wondering, is it any better here?
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are you kidding?
CM7 is like THE BEST AOSP ROM out there for the Glacier.
it's
very FAST
very STABLE
very BATTERY EFFICIENT
i don't know what they did with Samsungs, but Cyanogen Team did a very good job on the Glacier.
I'm using CM7 since 2 month now and I have no issue.
Like saranhai has said, CM7 (actually 7.1.0) is stable, fast and work very well on the Panache / MyTouch4G / glacier.
Regards.
my personal opinion, AOSP blows everything else out of the water. Ive been running CM7 nightlies for months now with little to no issues. Sure Ill flash a different rom here and there just to change things up a bit or try something new, but I always fall back to CM7. Like the others said, its fast, stable, and great on battery life. It might look plain and boring when you first boot up, but there are so many things you can customize to get your "perfect" look. If you want more stability tho, CM7 7.1 is what youre looking for. Although I havent had any issues with the latest Nightly 252...but yeah CM7 on the MT4G is a beast
Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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I cant really compare them both as the myTouch is my first android device and Ive never really messed with a SGS...but I have heard some bad things about MOST samsung phones(gps issues, lag, etc..) I think the switch will be well worth it, but with quad core cell phones on the horizon you might want to wait it out, unless you can get a Glacier for dirt cheap
Lesiroth said:
Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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my dad has an SGS, but i've never flashed CM7 to it before (seems like too much work, and very confusing )
but if you ask me, i would say that the switch is worth it. the Glacier, like all HTC devices may be harder to obtain root, but afterwards, flashing is VERY easy (no need to mess with bootloaders/odin/modems or whatever).
but there is ONE bad thing that you may want to consider:
since the Galaxy S is such a popular device and is an international device, it has WAYY more development than the Glacier does. Galaxy S has a HUGE community. but that's pretty small, sometimes having too many rom choices is bad
Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.
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Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.
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GPS works great.
Also, if you are trading your SGS for a MT4G, go for it! It is a definite upgrade. My dad has a SGS and I have a MT4G, and I definitely enjoy my phone much more than he does.
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Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.
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i never had any problems with GPS on CM7.
haha well, i just got really confused with all the things you had to do, coming from an HTC device.
Thanks guys, I guess I'll go for it! One last question: How's the build quality? I hate the cheapy plastic feeling of my phone so I'm hoping this one's better in that regard as well.
Lesiroth said:
Thanks guys, I guess I'll go for it! One last question: How's the build quality? I hate the cheapy plastic feeling of my phone so I'm hoping this one's better in that regard as well.
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Stainless steel with a soft touch finish (no plastic). Hard buttons instead of soft, and a track pad. The headphone and lock button are also in a much nicer and more natural place than the SGS. Trackpad isn't that useful though.
However, this does make it heavier than the SGS.
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Trackpad isn't that useful though.
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I use it to wake my device instead of the power button.
After a year of use, my back and home menus squeek when used. Not bad but it is a build quality issue.
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After a year of use, my back and home menus squeek when used. Not bad but it is a build quality issue.
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After slightly more than a year of use (like +a week or two), none of my buttons squeak.
DKMikey said:
Stainless steel with a soft touch finish (no plastic). Hard buttons instead of soft, and a track pad. The headphone and lock button are also in a much nicer and more natural place than the SGS. Trackpad isn't that useful though.
However, this does make it heavier than the SGS.
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ah, but it is useful in recovery
if you've ever tried flashing a rom on a phone without trackpad, you'd know what i mean lol
saranhai said:
ah, but it is useful in recovery
if you've ever tried flashing a rom on a phone without trackpad, you'd know what i mean lol
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lol yes its very convenient, had an HD2 and it annoyed the hell out of me when flashing things
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lol yes its very convenient, had an HD2 and it annoyed the hell out of me when flashing things
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The MT4G has a touch recovery now.... So all that scrolling or volume pressing is a thing of the past!!!
My wife and I have both had the MyTouch 4g since Nov 2010 (rooted since July 2011) and I feel it was one of the best devices (along with the Evo 4g) up until these dual-core beasts like the HTC Amaze 4g started rolling out. But as far as single core cpus go, I wouldn't trade my phone for any other. I run CM7.1 currently and it's blazing fast, extremely stable, very customizable, and as smooth as you want it to be. I would strongly recommend the device and CM7.1.
Hope this helps
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So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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I bought the Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant) from T-Mobile the first week or two when it came out, it replaced a G1. I used that phone up until a couple weeks ago, when I decided to sell it and use the money to buy a MT4G.
I was running CM 7.1 on the Vibrant and I was pretty unhappy with it. There were some pretty significant issues and they dropped official support for the device. Like you said, it's not CM's fault. For the Vibrant, Samsung/T-Mobile never released any kind of Gingerbread update. However, I was happier with CM 7.1 on the Vibrant than I was with the stock ROM, or any other ROMs that I had tried.
Considering that used Vibrants and MT4Gs were selling for about the same price on eBay/Craigslist, I jumped at the chance to get the MT4G. The MT4G is a little bit bigger, it weighs a little bit more, and the screen isn't quite as nice as it was on the Vibrant. However, CM 7.1 runs better, the GPS performance is better, battery usage seems to be less, and there's 256MB more of RAM for you to use.
Hi
I am a bit bored from my vibrant - especially when it comes to speed (despite running MIUI rom, which is quite snappy compared to stock).
How's the blaze? Worth the hassle? Speed demon? Or just ok?
Here's my take. Kinda drunka and all.
I came from the original Mt3g. 528mhz. Always cyanogenmod though.
Super fast phone. Fast network. The benchmarks that I run place the Blaze way at the top, though I don't know much about that stuff.
Once the ICS update happens if it does, or if an ICS rom happens I'll be thrilled. The phone has plenty of horsepower for me at least.
Being that i upgraded from a Motorola Defy that was even overclocked and still sucked....yea this phone is pretty damn nice. Super fast and no issues with mine. I'm waiting to root and do V6 and all that until ICS comes out so I don't have to go back to stock and all those other things for the real update to work, even with the bloat it does not slow this phone down.
i also came from a vibrant, cm9 and all.
its not that much quicker IMO
if i didnt get this phone for completely free, and had to use my upgrade for it, i would not have gotten it.
i wish the dev community for this phone was stronger but its all good.
Trev420 said:
i also came from a vibrant, cm9 and all.
its not that much quicker IMO
if i didnt get this phone for completely free, and had to use my upgrade for it, i would not have gotten it.
i wish the dev community for this phone was stronger but its all good.
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there is only two ways that is gunna happen, either people step forward and start making things work, or you reach out to devs
The vibrant is out dated and can't come close to touching the blaze/mini s2
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I am also coming from the Vibrant to this, due to my Vibrant not charging anymore. i had an upgrade and will be getting this in the mail by friday. Im also looking to root and flash a custom rom, since i have heard battery life is terrible. If anyone has any advice, please message me.
I kinda regret buying it. I didn't really research the community involvement on the phone, or even really the phone at all. I usually do, but in my situation my previous phone (nexus one) died suddenly, and unexpectedly. I pretty much had to get a phone that day, and I initially balked at the idea of getting a phone that was much larger than what I had.
But, I also wasn't really feeling like dishing out $400+ up front for a phone, so the Blaze was naturally a good option for me, especially since I do prefer GSM phones (cdma networks don't work too well in a lot of buildings I am commonly in) and I was getting fed up with AT&T's slow data speeds.
So it was pretty much between this or an S2, and at the time, the phone was just too large.
Now that I've had the phone for a week or so, running the same OS as my previous phone (one I had for 2 years) while it's true this phone is much faster, I find myself kinda wishing I would have been able to have more of a "wow omg" feeling after owning it.
In short, I'm starting a cash fund just to keep handy for whenever the new nexus line of phone is released. I really preferred stock android before, and I would definitely still prefer it now.
I'd like to see tmobile push out ICS for the phone pretty soon, but seriously, they loaded this thing with so many junk apps, sometimes 2 or 3 apps that do the same freaking thing that android already does, so I'm thinking it's going to be 2 years before they actually push ICS to this phone.
I have removed a lot of the apps with titanium backup pro, but it makes NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL why a carrier would put so much crap on the phone. For crying out loud if I use the stock launcher that doesn't have the ability to hide apps you don't want to see, it took a good 2 minutes just to freaking find what you wanted!
I like being able to flash roms and customize my phone and im worried there isnt going to be much developer interest in this. The S2 was also too large for my liking, and I chose this last minute after my vibrant stopped charging.
What I dont understand is, why are people who dont even have this phone making roms for it? So far theres only 2 and neither of them work. Go figure....
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What I dont understand is, why are people who dont even have this phone making roms for it? So far theres only 2 and neither of them work. Go figure....
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I'm guessing because it seems like the number of users with this phone is rather small. There's lots of reasons for it. It's a new model, didn't it come out in March?
It's also available only on Tmobile, and reviewers do nothing but dump the phone in the lower tier bracket because there's nothing "special" about it. They are always like, "meh, it's not tablet sized, so who cares!"
Even the model number is confusing as all get out, not even Tmobile themselves can consistently distinguish between it and the other Samsung phones.
Good phone just as fast as the Galaxy S2 T989 just a smaller screen size otherwize specs are almost exactly the same except for the camera is a little better in the Galaxy S2.
i just picked up the galaxy s blaze as well from my friend. i have a quick question though. Does anyone else have a slight issue with the power button being a bit loose when pressed in towards the button?
I kinda wish I had the Blaze along with my S II. If I did, i would be using the Blaze almost all the time because it does the same thing that the S II does, but in a smaller design. LOL. You guys should be proud because some of the S II owners use the Blaze's modem. I use it. It's so much faster and better. I give the Blaze some Love.
So odd and random but i noticed today on T Mobile that the Vibrant is now listed as a phone to buy in the phones/upgrade section again lol and since I got my Blaze and have no discount they still think they are gonna get someone to pay 379 for that outdated POS..must have found some stashed in their inventory haha
Flashed this modem based on reports that it would improve 4G speeds and reception. Now my phone refuses to connect to data at ALL. Going to re-flash old modem. Wanted to see if anyone else has heard of this, or if I missed something other than flashing the zip from CWM?
Check your APN settings. New modems are installed by flashing a zip in CWM. You got it right.
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Check your APN settings. New modems are installed by flashing a zip in CWM. You got it right.
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That was the first thing I checked. Everything looked fine. Went back and flashed the KD1 modem. Works great but not nearly like the claims of the blaze modem. I feel like it's an elaborate hoax.
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That was the first thing I checked. Everything looked fine. Went back and flashed the KD1 modem. Works great but not nearly like the claims of the blaze modem. I feel like it's an elaborate hoax.
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<shrug>
People see what they want to see.
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People see what they want to see.
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Just mean that I tried several times to flash the zip and each time it zapped my connectivity. I compared the hashes and it downloaded correctly. Not sure what the problem is.
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Just mean that I tried several times to flash the zip and each time it zapped my connectivity. I compared the hashes and it downloaded correctly. Not sure what the problem is.
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I meant people see what they want to see when they mod their phones.
Not being able to use this modem isn't costing you much in the way of performance. The stock KJ2 was more reliable (at least in my area). The biggest bottleneck to network performance is on t-mo's end. In theory, this phone should see better speeds as they upgrade the network itself.
Do you have connectivity problems with roms that have this modem baked in?
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I meant people see what they want to see when they mod their phones.
Not being able to use this modem isn't costing you much in the way of performance. The stock KJ2 was more reliable (at least in my area). The biggest bottleneck to network performance is on t-mo's end. In theory, this phone should see better speeds as they upgrade the network itself.
Do you have connectivity problems with roms that have this modem baked in?
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Oh I gotcha. I'm about to switch over ROMs from GG3.8 to something else. I haven't been too happy with any of the custom ROMs I've found on here. Most of them are only supported for 2 weeks before the devs go A.D.D. and start making something else. The few that have survived the longest have changed hands so many times that I worry about all of the overlooked problems and inherited glitches in code that may never get worked out. I wish someone would actually work on developing, rather than minor tweaks and skins. Most of the ROMs are copies of other ROMs but with new skins baked in.
I haven't noticed any huge problems with ROMs using the KJ2 modem other than low signal strength. I know that it was mostly on Tmo's end of things, but I figured any little boost I can get would help as I live in a somewhat rural area.
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Oh I gotcha. I'm about to switch over ROMs from GG3.8 to something else. I haven't been too happy with any of the custom ROMs I've found on here. Most of them are only supported for 2 weeks before the devs go A.D.D. and start making something else. The few that have survived the longest have changed hands so many times that I worry about all of the overlooked problems and inherited glitches in code that may never get worked out. I wish someone would actually work on developing, rather than minor tweaks and skins. Most of the ROMs are copies of other ROMs but with new skins baked in.
I haven't noticed any huge problems with ROMs using the KJ2 modem other than low signal strength. I know that it was mostly on Tmo's end of things, but I figured any little boost I can get would help as I live in a somewhat rural area.
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What can I tell ya...if it's so easy I'd like to see you sit down and come up with something new. If you don't want to wait until bhundven finishes all the hard work he is doing for us, just buy another phone and jump to another section of xda, dude.
I'll be retiring from the custom rom thing, anyway. Good luck and take care!
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btw, the roms for this phone do suck. sadly this phone never got any really good developers it would seem. it had a few good ones but they all left because this phone sucks.
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???....hahaha!
Annnnyway.... sorry for being rude. It is frustrating to run into those limitations with this phone.
Believe me... if I had a good computer, I'd be hacking the source and compiling.
Once again, I apologize. That was wrong of me.
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btw, the roms for this phone do suck. sadly this phone never got any really good developers it would seem. it had a few good ones but they all left because this phone sucks.
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Thanks for your input. Of course they suck. We made the roms suck on purpose just to annoy you. Lol.
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Well, I certainly hope you never publish any apps with that thin skin. You should see the reviews that devs have to read through..
Have a good one.
orange808 said:
Well, I certainly hope you never publish any apps with that thin skin. You should see the reviews that devs have to read through..
Have a good one.
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Hahaha....I'm back. New and improved Joker product. With a new secret ingredient: Smylex
RicAndroid said:
What can I tell ya...if it's so easy I'd like to see you sit down and come up with something new. If you don't want to wait until bhundven finishes all the hard work he is doing for us, just buy another phone and jump to another section of xda, dude.
I'll be retiring from the custom rom thing, anyway. Good luck and take care!
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I'm sorry. I didn't meant to offend. I've tried several ROMs, a few of them you've worked on. A lot of them I've really enjoyed for a while. What I've found is that a lot of modifications to the firmware and kernel have had negative effects on the stability of each ROM. Almost all I've tried have had trouble with radio dormancy - switching from WIFI to 4G have prevented the radio reactivating - forcing me to reboot often.
At one point, several "developers" have had multiple ROMs going at once. This can be done if one keeps considerable documentation for each project. If not, though, how the hell can you juggle that many projects without making considerable mistakes?
I've seen good work done by a lot of the devs on here, so I'm not bashing. But support for each ROM only lasts about two weeks MAX and then they cook some new ROM without fixing the previous one - and the cycle repeats all over again. It takes Android fragmentation to the extreme.
Take my criticism as an insult if you want, but it was only intended as a critique of the dev environment in general.
Currently I'm rolling stock KJ2, rooted, with all of the useless bloat removed.
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I'm sorry. I didn't meant to offend. I've tried several ROMs, a few of them you've worked on. A lot of them I've really enjoyed for a while. What I've found is that a lot of modifications to the firmware and kernel have had negative effects on the stability of each ROM. Almost all I've tried have had trouble with radio dormancy - switching from WIFI to 4G have prevented the radio reactivating - forcing me to reboot often.
At one point, several "developers" have had multiple ROMs going at once. This can be done if one keeps considerable documentation for each project. If not, though, how the hell can you juggle that many projects without making considerable mistakes?
I've seen good work done by a lot of the devs on here, so I'm not bashing. But support for each ROM only lasts about two weeks MAX and then they cook some new ROM without fixing the previous one - and the cycle repeats all over again. It takes Android fragmentation to the extreme.
Take my criticism as an insult if you want, but it was only intended as a critique of the dev environment in general.
Currently I'm rolling stock KJ2, rooted, with all of the useless bloat removed.
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Nah...no insult taken. My bad for being overly sensitive. I have noticed that the firmware on this phone just doesn't react very well to alterations.
Any slight deviation from the original structure just causes slight bugs and boot loops. My wife has a G2X with CyanogenMod 7.2 and it is so much more flexible.
I tried many experiments with init.d scripts to increase app storage, which work on the G2X BTW, with resulted in epic fails.
Let's see what bhundven can do to make this phone into what it should be.
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RicAndroid said:
Nah...no insult taken. My bad for being overly sensitive. I have noticed that the firmware on this phone just doesn't react very well to alterations.
Any slight deviation from the original structure just causes slight bugs and boot loops. My wife has a G2X with CyanogenMod 7.2 and it is so much more flexible.
I tried many experiments with init.d scripts to increase app storage, which work on the G2X BTW, with resulted in epic fails.
Let's see what bhundven can do to make this phone into what it should be.
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I'm hoping that he can hack something together. Else I think I'm just going to save up some cash and upgrade. If we could just get a GB equivalent version of CM on here I'd be set! Just missing out on a lot of good apps because I don't have the cash to drop on a new phone for a while. College student financials, you know what I mean?
jcurtiswood said:
I'm hoping that he can hack something together. Else I think I'm just going to save up some cash and upgrade. If we could just get a GB equivalent version of CM on here I'd be set! Just missing out on a lot of good apps because I don't have the cash to drop on a new phone for a while. College student financials, you know what I mean?
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That would be CM 7. That would be great but I'll be happy with CM 6.2. Yeah, it's still Froyo but at least the foundation would be set. It'll clean up the mess and the development would increase substantially.
It's weird. When you look at this hardware and compare it to the Nexus S and the Epic 4G, it is just so similar. I use the Epic themes and it just matches up perfectly. There is no doubt that JB would run on this without any problems.
I also cannot afford a new phone right now. Our day will arrive... and when it does, this phone will be almost like the Relay.
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RicAndroid said:
That would be CM 7. That would be great but I'll be happy with CM 6.2. Yeah, it's still Froyo but at least the foundation would be set. It'll clean up the mess and the development would increase substantially.
It's weird. When you look at this hardware and compare it to the Nexus S and the Epic 4G, it is just so similar. I use the Epic themes and it just matches up perfectly. There is no doubt that JB would run on this without any problems.
I also cannot afford a new phone right now. Our day will arrive... and when it does, this phone will be almost like the Relay.
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When your contract is up, call T-mo and let them know they sold you a "T-Mobile" BRANDED product. You bought the T-Mobile Sidekick 4G and you got stuck with crummy software. They allowed you to be abandoned in Samsung Touchwiz hades. Now, I'm not worrying about "how a dev devs", but AOSP isn't happening. Just get a Relay. If you explain what happened to you, they will probably cut you a sweetheart deal. Keep your Sidekick around and you can still use the keyboard to hack out code, write, and surf message boards on WiFi.
orange808 said:
When your contract is up, call T-mo and let them know they sold you a "T-Mobile" BRANDED product. You bought the T-Mobile Sidekick 4G and you got stuck with crummy software. They allowed you to be abandoned in Samsung Touchwiz hades. Now, I'm not worrying about "how a dev devs", but AOSP isn't happening. Just get a Relay. If you explain what happened to you, they will probably cut you a sweetheart deal. Keep your Sidekick around and you can still use the keyboard to hack out code, write, and surf message boards on WiFi.
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At the moment I got this phone, I was trying to decide between this and the myTouch 4G Slide. I was attracted to the full qwerty layout and was impressed with ayoteddy's work.
I look back now and regret not spending the extra cash. I still like the Sidekick but find myself hiding it from my coworkers at the T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico.
They are flaunting their Galaxies and HTCs running CyanogenMod 10....and I'm here with themes. LoL.
I will have a one year discount coming up and will take your advice. It is ashame that Samsung have clueless tools responding to emails so sending complaints would be pointless.
I am not losing faith in bhundven, however. He may be able to make this phone rise from the ashes.
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Just as a note for other Sidekick owners, I specifically asked the T-Mo rep I spoke to about selling a phone with a two year contract tha wasn't actually viable for two years. Froyo literally destroys your options on the Play Store and I have been forced to use old versions of almost every app on my device--just to get combatibility and stability. Considering I went through the additional effort of partially porting my own AOSP, I think I did everything I could... Maybe I came up short because I didn't spend enough time and maybe I could have given up more free time, but that's not really fair. I should have gotten Gingerbread. That was my case for an extra discount on my Relay.
RicAndroid said:
At the moment I got this phone, I was trying to decide between this and the myTouch 4G Slide. I was attracted to the full qwerty layout and was impressed with ayoteddy's work.
I look back now and regret not spending the extra cash. I still like the Sidekick but find myself hiding it from my coworkers at the T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico.
They are flaunting their Galaxies and HTCs running CyanogenMod 10....and I'm here with themes. LoL.
I will have a one year discount coming up and will take your advice. It is ashame that Samsung have clueless tools responding to emails so sending complaints would be pointless.
I am not losing faith in bhundven, however. He may be able to make this phone rise from the ashes.
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I spoke to bhundven, if any work gets done on it, it's gonna be sometime. He's got life to deal with. I told him to hold onto it until he manages to come across some time. No rushes. We're lucky this forum didn't end up in legacy devices after all. We had AdamOutler and krylon360 work on our phone. So we weren't left in the dark like some phones for companies like MetroPCS.