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[Q] Still a good phone to buy?

As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!

thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I still love mine after just over a year with it. Some of the ROMs are a bit quirky but some are super nice. I'd save the upgrade for something later. Mine is coming in December and I am tempted to go GSIII or Note II. If there is something awesome on the horizon I'll wait and keep this.
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thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I personally moved from a G2 to a MyTouch 4G Slide.
The camera is great. I enjoyed the stock ROM for a bit before taking the plunge.
If you can get a unit for $150, that is a good deal. From what I understand, the MT4GS is now "an old phone."
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Coug76 said:
... I'd save the upgrade for something later. ...
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Definitely don't burn your upgrade on a MyTouch 4G Slide.

thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I have a MT4GS and recentally my wife got a Samsung Relay, which roughly takes the same spot in the T-Mobile lineup. Here are the pros/cons that I've noticed so far:
The MT4GS has a slide mechanism for the keyboard that IMHO is far superior, easier to open and close without it jamming as the Relay seems to tend to do;
The MT4GS feels more solid than the Relay, although this "solid" feeling comes with a bit of weight to it, although I do have an upgraded battery;
The Relay seems to have a better battery life, although I haven't tested side by side to analyze this in detail;
The MT4GS has active ROM development, including IMHO a nice CM 9.1 release, as well as Sense roms. Samsung phones obviously don't have sense.
I believe the Relay has been rooted already, but I haven't seen any solid third party ROM development yet, although signs are there will be some.
The relay has a dual S4 core (reports that it had the S3 were premature on this point), so is a bit faster than the dual S3 in the MT4GS, but not by such a huge amount that it will blow you away.
The Relay has a slightly larger screen, but again, not by so much that it will amaze you.
The Relay has ICS as the stock rom, while the MT4GS has GB. While you can put ICS on the MT4GS, it is nice to have a reasonably recent stock rom to fall back to. The flip side, is, as noted above, the relay doesn't have third party roms, so you simply don't have a choice at the moment.
My overall opinion is that for someone that likes playing with their phone, the MT4GS is a good choice for a tmobile slider today, although moving forward, the relay MAY take it's place for modding.

thesavvymage said:
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Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Haah, I bought a little time ago that for 327,77 hardware+50 (shipment)+ 100 USD of duty..., because I prefer hardware keyboard, son-erric- is now good with Xperia -T LTE, but..without hardware keyboard. But Sony have really perfect build quality.
In EU this total price is normal for phone like MT4GS.....
B.R
El.

I would stay away from the cheaper ones. Our phone has had a track record of screens going bad, so if the seller is willing to let it go for a really low price, there may be problems.
Source: I've seen tons of phones on ebay with bad screens. Get one that's been refurbished, or only a few months old in great shape. Most refurbs look mint, because HTC usually replaces the whole top half of the phone when screens go bad

thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
Sent from Spaceball One.

blackknightavalon said:
Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I only suggest our phone, because it has dev support and is much more affordable at this point. It takes at least a year for most android phones to start getting devs

Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.

elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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How long have you had the device?
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elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2

elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck

gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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gtmaster303 said:
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2
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elpapagayo said:
Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.

elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Wait till the jellybean sense ROMs are released and you will see the most stable 2011 phone with jellybean OS installed

elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Make sure you don't confuse what I said. Inquisition is the most capable. But if you want the most bug free ICS rom there is, it has to be Primadonna.

Well, this phone does the job for me quite well. I use cm9 because I love the extras it provides compared to the other ROMs.
If you do get this phone [or basically any phone] it is a good idea to grab a higher capacity battery just for convenience sakes. I have not done so yet because I bought the phone with an extra stock battery so that works for me. But yes, I did notice when I first got the phone, that the battery life is not as resilient as some others. Then again I do use stock bat.- the tweaked cm9 is making some headway on the drain problem with the community's help.
I recently looked into what other T-mobile phones are out there and as it turned out, my specific search query on phonescoop based on what I want in a phone only resulted in the mytouch 4g slide lol. So this is the phone for me and I am happy with it.

just wanted to add my 2 cents. i came from a rooted G2 running CM7, this phone was very capable, and i loved the housing, the keyboard, and the display. i dropped this phone so many times, but never had a cracked screen or cracked housing.
the only phone i wanted to upgrade to was the MT4GS, mainly because of the qwerty keyboard, and advanced camera.
even though the MT4GS is discontinued, i held out till my girlfriend got an iphone, and she gave me her MT4GS, only reason she got rid of it, was because of random reboots, constant freezing etc.
i happily took it, rooted it, and am really enjoying the phone. my favorite thing being the camera. only thing i could ask for is slightly more system memory, but i really can't complain. the MT4GS seems more capable hardware wise then a lot of newer phones on the market.
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elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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Wow. Someone is full of themselves. Do you understand what XDA is founded on? Developers helping developers. Atleast those devs are doing something and trying to help out. It's people like you who show no appreciation for the devs work and just leech off them that makes devs not want to do it anymore. If you don't like any of the ROMs, do something about it. Either help them make it better or make your own ROM. I recommend the second, because then you'll see how disheartening it is for someone to bash your work that you spent hours and hours on.

Works well for me, no complaints
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elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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With all due respect, if you're getting no further into a link for a ROM than the 1st page you're not doing any of the research necessary to even find out if any of those initially listed glitches HAVE been fixed. And if not fixed in the original upload you'll miss those fixes & workarounds that have been discovered & explained by one of the other very capable developers we're lucky enough to have reside here & kindly teaching the rest of us. You TOO, if you don't mind doing some reading. Some ROMS have a couple hundred pages of research & further development added after the fact with things added for us very often in an individual obscure post. Virtuous Infinity is a PERFECT example. Download the things in the OP and you'll think the ROM kinda sux for it's length of development. But if you follow everything through to the end and follow all the directions you'll end up with a ROM you can make a nandroid of that will blow you away. To some extent, they are ALL like that.
MANY people come to XDA with a new phone with the idea that it's like going to a GM plant and waiting for just the one you've always looked for to roll out the door & drive away in. In actuality it's more like a trip to Lowes where you can take some idea you love into the store & ask the experts what tools you need, how to use them & why and end up with something to be VERY proud of. Of course that's JMHO.....

Quiet here .. odd

For a device with an unlocked BL I find this subforum to be extremely quiet. Even the Motorola Bionic forum (where I came from) is buzzing with posts compared to here, and that phone has a locked bootloader and is ancient by today's cell phone age standards.
Is it just too new? The phone has been on the market for what, 6 months? What's the hangup here?

I think people are still skidish on the whole process and don't want to brick a $800 device, as for me I just don't want Motorola to know that I have modified the device therefore nullifying my warranty lol.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD

I arrived here 3 weeks back they had just recently got the BL unlocked there were just a few builds going and bring maintained at that time it has increased much since then still it's hard to get any answers in the threads sometimes but it's send to be getting much better with more folks joining in, and an increase in development
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Yeah I've been checking them almost everyday since I got the phone and I would say that they are definetly advancing in the right direction, but I think once everything becomes more stable and reassuring that more people will get into it.
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I prefer to wait and see how Motorola play their updates before I jump into unlocking, rooting and roming. Currently we're almost on the most current version of Android and it works pretty well. If motorola decide to update us to 4.2 or 4.3 then I'll be happy to stick with that for quite a while. If they come out and say that 4.1 will be the end for us, then I'll seriously consider unlocking and reflashing then. I'm not that interested in 4.2, but I would really hope that we see a 4.3 update. Especially since the Razr HD is their flagship device when 4.3 is announced.
I did the same thing with my previous Defy. When moto announced that 2.2 was it for the Defy, I bypassed the bootloader and flashed CM7, then CM9, then CM10. It was over 12 months old at that stage, anyway.
I definitely won't be doing anything within the first 12 months of owning the phone to keep my warranty. After that I'll play it by ear...
matt

Why in the wide world of sports did they move your thread. You didn't ask a question. You didn't ask for help. And you sure didn't need troubleshooting.
This place is so slow the mods are bored.

Lol I went from the Note 2, which development there is hopping, to this simply because I needed extra cash and a smaller screen. I'd say give it time because the bootloader unlock hack is only a month old. I heard kernels are in development as we speak.

DroidOnRoids said:
Lol I went from the Note 2, which development there is hopping, to this simply because I needed extra cash and a smaller screen. I'd say give it time because the bootloader unlock hack is only a month old. I heard kernels are in development as we speak.
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Speaking of which...have there been any guesses on when the kernels might happen?
I just got my Razr HD Maxx, and I LOVE the phone. It is nice to have something that doesnt insanely drain a batter after coming from my Galaxy Nexus. Of course I am missing the robust dev community, but as long as a good kernel gets made all my favs (AOKP, CM 10.1, Liquid) are all in the works and almost ready to go. i can't wait!
I hope now that the bootloader is unlocked and root achieved on 4.1.2 that more devs decide to grab one of these. I scored a really great deal on one on craigslist .
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DroidOnRoids said:
Lol I went from the Note 2, which development there is hopping, to this simply because I needed extra cash and a smaller screen. I'd say give it time because the bootloader unlock hack is only a month old. I heard kernels are in development as we speak.
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Oh, and one other comment...the root and bootloader unlock was insanely easy!

brucipher said:
Speaking of which...have there been any guesses on when the kernels might happen?
I just got my Razr HD Maxx, and I LOVE the phone. It is nice to have something that doesnt insanely drain a batter after coming from my Galaxy Nexus. Of course I am missing the robust dev community, but as long as a good kernel gets made all my favs (AOKP, CM 10.1, Liquid) are all in the works and almost ready to go. i can't wait!
I hope now that the bootloader is unlocked and root achieved on 4.1.2 that more devs decide to grab one of these. I scored a really great deal on one on craigslist .
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Oh, and one other comment...the root and bootloader unlock was insanely easy!
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I'm not sure. I just know because other people have said so. Also, the Droid Razr HD can last a day for me with 4 hour on screen time lol

Yeah I agree. With the packages created by @drbliss making this baby 'mine' was easy as pie. I think the only thing easier was running z4root on my Driod X lol
I found myself awkwardly scared to try out a new rom the other day. In the prior days I could just SS it, and it was easy. I have become so used to it that it acted as a safety net for me. Unless someone else comes up with some sort of dual boot system I'm hesitant to flash something. Funny how that works lol
I'm sure I"ll get over it

SCFirefighter said:
Yeah I agree. With the packages created by @drbliss making this baby 'mine' was easy as pie. I think the only thing easier was running z4root on my Driod X lol
I found myself awkwardly scared to try out a new rom the other day. In the prior days I could just SS it, and it was easy. I have become so used to it that it acted as a safety net for me. Unless someone else comes up with some sort of dual boot system I'm hesitant to flash something. Funny how that works lol
I'm sure I"ll get over it
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I forgot to mention but DroidTh3ory has several ROMs and a custom kernel on his DroidHive website. Everyone on that forum seems really happy and excited for the Axiom Rom which, from what I've read, has a TON of customization options. He has a new Axiom build up every freakin' day lol
http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/forum/455-roms/
EDIT: Found more ROMs lol You just gotta dig ya know? http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/99-droid-razr-hd-roms-xt926/

Yeah, I guess the times way back when XDA was the place to be for stuff like this is, well, over huh.
-- Android: It's a UNIX thing. You wouldn't understand.

SCFirefighter said:
Yeah, I guess the times way back when XDA was the place to be for stuff like this is, well, over huh.
-- Android: It's a UNIX thing. You wouldn't understand.
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Nope it's not over its a per device thing. Some forums have more gs3 users then others etc. Also if you notice xda has more of a global community than the other forums and the hd is a majority I'd USA phone based on sales. There are some roms here some on rootz some on droidrzr and some on the hive.I think the community has really taken off since unlock was found. It's not as crazy as the nexus or gs3 forums but that's due to motos traditionally being locked devices and having limited dev support from awesome people like hash and dh. I think a lot more devs are interested in the device now even if they don't personally own one.
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Which ROM to flash when selling phone?

After a long and happy life with my MyTouch 4G Slide, I'm about to move on to a new phone. So, I'll be putting my MT4GS up for sale, along with all the accessories I've accumulated (3 batteries, desktop cradle/charger, Anker battery charger). I run the MikTouch 0.7 ROM on the phone and will probably just completely wipe and reinstall that ROM, but I'm curious what other people might suggest as an alternative. To me, the most stable of the CM ROMs for this phone is 9.1, so I consider that one. Or should I just go pure stock ROM (MikTouch is a modified stock). The phone is S-OFF, unlocked (and SIM unlocked).

Sad to see you go! Which new phone are you moving to?
I used to buy old androids and refurbish them for resale on eBay, I found that putting the most up to date os yield the highest bids, in my sale I would mention what the phone currently is running and let them know I was willing to put any version of android on the phone including stock, most always people just wanted the very most up to date android version. But I always sold with an sdcard and the files to turn to stock and one other android version. So even if they were unhappy they had the options right there. Also included a quick how to. So I would suggest KitKat as chances are you will get a few more bucks
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demkantor said:
Sad to see you go! Which new phone are you moving to?
I used to buy old androids and refurbish them for resale on eBay, I found that putting the most up to date os yield the highest bids, in my sale I would mention what the phone currently is running and let them know I was willing to put any version of android on the phone including stock, most always people just wanted the very most up to date android version. But I always sold with an sdcard and the files to turn to stock and one other android version. So even if they were unhappy they had the options right there. Also included a quick how to. So I would suggest KitKat as chances are you will get a few more bucks
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I'm now the owner of a new HTC One from T-Mobile. Got it yesterday and already have it unlocked/S-OFF and rooted, running the latest 4.3.1 release from T-Mobile. According to HTC, they've already given the 4.4.2 KitKat/Sense 5.5 update to T-Mobile, so now just waiting for that to go OTA.
I haven't run the KitKat release on the MT4GS, but I've been following along in the thread. I was hesitant since it didn't quite seem ready for prime-time. The CM9.1 runs beautifully, I think that's the last version that truly works with this phone in every respect with no "gotchas" (save for the Bluetooth bug that kept me from using it as DD), but I understand what you're saying. Anybody who buys it is likely another enthusiast and will probably want the latest. Good idea about including some options on the SD card (I'll put in the standard 8GB card that came with it).

I would probably stick with stock (or a debloated stock if you want to be nice.)
If anyone runs into problems and does a factory reset I think it's good to have GAPPS built into the ROM, or else they could have a headache figuring out how to "fix it", and some cell phone repair shops will rip them off heavily to install it. Not everyone has any knowledge on how to deal with ROMs like we do. It might be simple, but most people won't look into it at all.
This phone has some appeal to the enthusiast crowd (case in point, everyone on this forum), but most owners of this phone are people who came from a blackberry and didn't want to give up their keyboard yet. A lot of them will be pretty clueless. What you can do is offer any version of android to come pre-installed, but mention the possibility that they might want to learn how to install ROMs themselves if they're not going to be on stock.
BTW I have also sold a good number of this phone on craigslist. A few people were excited to learn how to ROM and get on the new android, but the majority just wanted an affordable mid to high end phone with a keyboard.
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Oh and if you are going to be selling the phone with an upgraded version of android I wouldn't hesitate to install the latest KitKat. From my experience it's more than stable enough that most people wouldn't notice anything especially wrong.

Ziida said:
Oh and if you are going to be selling the phone with an upgraded version of android I wouldn't hesitate to install the latest KitKat. From my experience it's more than stable enough that most people wouldn't notice anything especially wrong.
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Battery drainage is the only thing I might warn people about if defaulting to KitKat. It's pretty noticable on the multiple MT4GS phones that I've installed it on.

You're right, actually. I was thinking about stability but yes battery drain is it's biggest issue IMO

Ziida said:
You're right, actually. I was thinking about stability but yes battery drain is it's biggest issue IMO
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It's a shame; it's otherwise an amazingly sexy ROM. I really hope the battery issues are solved!

dilinger1111 said:
It's a shame; it's otherwise an amazingly sexy ROM. I really hope the battery issues are solved!
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I think I'll go back and install a fresh MikTouch 0.7 and then let the buyer decide what they want. On the included 8GB microSD card I've already got MikTouch, CM9.1, and CM11, as well as CWM and TWRP recoveries (have TWRP installed). So, it's a well-rounded device.

It's the phone still for sale haha
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Make sure to sell the phone with a stock rom, or one that's derived from a stock rom. I tried to sell a G2 I fixed with CyanogenMod installed, and the buyer complained about not being able to get SIM contacts from the SIM card. I never had this problem, because my contacts would sync from my Google account, but apparently nobody ever got the SIM card slot working on HTC devices. The myTouch 4G being a HTC device, means you're better off putting a stock derived rom. Cause you never know who's buying the phone.
Unless the SIM card slot works nowadays, which I would put CyanogenMod 9. Seems to be the most stable and working rom out there.

The most boring phone I've ever owned

Hey folks just wanted to say that I really love my V10. But coming from Nexus and some of the other LG series I am going crazy with the lack of "things" to tinker with. I am not exactly a flash-a-holic but I am definitely a tinkerer (if thats a word). I like to flash custom Roms and fool around with xposed and maybe a little mod here or there. It's crazy how this phone still has virtually no developer support or any kind of custom rom scene. (yes I understand why about the locked bootloaders etc etc). It's been so long I almost feel like I'm rusty and probably forgot how.. Haha.
Nevertheless I love it and it's a great phone (although a bit on the heavy side as time goes on). My wife just got the Galaxy S7 and it's so nice and small and bright and waterproof. Does make me think about looking other ways. I dunno. I hope LG doesn't just make this phone like a stepchild to the flagship series. Still barely gettin marshmallow update in other countries and not really anything new with the 2nd screen for any apps or anything. I guess this is borderline off topic but just some musings I've had the last week or so. Later!
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I feel the same way. I have been considering selling this and getting something else.
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If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.

I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.

DarkestSpawn said:
If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
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Totally agree, I dont miss the phone dying on me once in a while, having to flash an "old" backup, loosing some data... And with xPosed this phone is as customisable as I ever needed :good:

I am the same ..im bored of this phone
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faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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Ppl like you will never understand what he talking about

Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.

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Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
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I said you will never understand ..so even if i did explain it you won't understand its something like drugs

But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.

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But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
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The need to be able to make a change to how the phone operates, and see that change in action.
And then change it again. Ownership of the device, playing with the experience of using the phone.
Getting to touch, swish, swipe, scroll - interact with the device (you never been in bed and gone endlessly through your settings menu, again and again; into all the options, all the possibilities? It's not really for the 'settings', you already know what you want really...It's to swish and swipe, especially if the phone is high end, the screen is beautiful and the actions like silk) until you fall asleep cradling it lovingly in your hand under the pillow and waking with it stuck to your cheek?
A sense of learning
A sense of making technology do what You want - of being able to effect change.
To. Develop. Perhaps.
To use the phone.
To discover and distribute something to others..
TO TWEAK BATTERY LIFE. (Heh)
To be part of a community doing the same.

This is my second LG phone, and absolutely latest one.
Whay?
Because of soooo pore support and update.
Update is nothing.
Im coming from LG G4, REALLY what's improvement in LG V10? nothing + poor update support.
At all i NEVER buy a LG phone and NEVER suggest any LG mobile phone for anyone.

Talk about 1st world problems ?

faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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So what are you going to buy now?

I've a v10 and will stay with it for at least one year. Since MM is being rolled-out, I'm pretty fine. I also had and still have several nexus devices and was disappointed by the quality of hardware.

There is a lot more to do on the V10 than my previous Nexus 6. I don't think I understand...

I don't get that guys here saying that they are moving to an other phone. Just do it. But noone cares which phone you have and why you're moving on. It seems like those guys still are not sure and just want other to ask them to stay. I don't care. Have fun with your next phone - until you get it and and complain and buy an other one. And so on and so on. There is an other root cause of your frustration and I'm pretty sure it's not the phone ?

This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK

incidentflux said:
This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
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The best phone around by far :good:

Only one feature missing imo: IP68.

Should have stayed with my nexus 6. The second screen is a crappie gimmick. Gonna try and stick with this phone until the note comes out.

Is the Pixel 2 right for me? Opinions appreciated.

Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!

amajamar said:
Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!
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It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.

flunk03 said:
It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.
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As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?

amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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Afaik just rooting and getting an app designed for that should be fine I guess. It's not something I know since we don't have that issue with carriers on that front

amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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As far as I'm aware you can achieve this with Magisk root and a Magisk module.

Buy Pixel 2, unlock bootloader before you set up the phone (get the factory reset out of the way), then just use it as-is indefinitely until you find you need something that only root can provide. If that's the case, then install Magisk, and keep on rolling.