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Hi all,
I need a bit of advice. My wife and I have had the Captivate since this time last year. We came over from the iPhone 3G to the Captivate and loved the amount of tweaking you could do. From the beginning, I went through 4 phones in the first month with the random shut down issue, but my Wife's was fine for the first six months she had it. She is on her second Captivate now and is having problem after problem. Alarms not going off, random shut downs, wi-fi not turning on/off, phone won't dial a number and won't hang up when you try to end the call, phone takes for ever to start up on a reboot, drops network and won't reconnect without re-starting and so on. Needless to say she is pretty frustrated with it and wants to get something different and is leaning back to the iPhone. I am having some issues with mine all similar to what she is having, but not nearly as often. We are both running the stock Froyo, but rooted.
I have a few questions:
1. Would you suspect this to be a problem with the hardware or something maybe a ROM could fix? If a ROM could fix it, any suggestions for a reliable ROM? (I've flashed ROM's in the past to mess around, but haven't kept up with them in over a year.)
2. Is this a common problem with Android (i.e. not reliable)?
3. If it isn't a common problem of Android not being reliable, what other new Android phones from AT&T are good.
Sorry for all of the questions, and thanks for any input.
Dave
I've been on custom ROMs for a long time now, and I've noticed that they are often faster, have better battery life and depending on the ROM you choose, can be more reliable than stock. I'd give it a try, since worst case, you can go back to stock or trade the phone in anyway.
I'm currently using the Illuminance ROM and it is very good. Pretty reliable, fast and excellent battery life.
Other older roms that I've used are Pinnacle and Cognition. All 3 of these offer a smooth stock experience that's not too flashy with radical themes or anything.
Good luck!
1. ask yourself this questions do u like tweaking stuff, if so go with android. else apple or windows
2. i have captivate for about 15 months now, i have never had random shutdown issues, so random shutdown could be mostly software related. I'm running cyanogen7 and its like new phone altogether. pure android experience
3. new android phones that are coming out are much stable than the older phones, bcoz phones like captivate have been rushed to market to survive the Apples rally.
if u want pure android experience go the Galaxy nexus (the latest android from Google). with google phones u can be assured that your os will upgraded as soon as Google releases latest OS. i have heard pretty good reviews about Ice Cream sandwich
What's Froyo?
A clean install of a hot new ROM will give it new life. It shouldn't be unstable though. Maybe it's all the bloatware and apps installed or some files got corrupted. Backup first but try not to reinstall as much as possible if you go with a new ROM. No system data should be restored on a different version anyway.
If your due an upgrade do so and do some research on new phones as far as fixing problems the cappys always have had minor issues a new rom with a clean install works cm7 or cognition
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Cm7's battery life is garbage. The cm team themselves will admit that. It doesn't contain the proper hardware drivers from Samsung. you guys might want to mention that before suggesting that to a noob...
op Sounds those problems sound all software related. I would flash a leaked gingerbread stock firmware as a baseline, then if all is good you could stick with that or flash a custom gingerbread ROM over that if you wanted a more tweaked experience.
Agree with what the others have said... try upgrading to a Gingerbread ROM. There are several out there, most all of the JVT ones are very mature and stable. The latest KK4 ones are pretty nice as well but just being released so maybe not the best 1st choice.
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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rflnc1 said:
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I have to say, the GB roms lack of stability is directly related to the lack of source code for the captivate gingerbread rom.
If you are looking for a stable Froyo experience go with Andromeda3. Ive been on it for months now and really have enjoyed it.
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
If you like the stock GB ROM, you'll love Illuminance 3.0--very fast, great battery life, and smooth.
Or try pinnacle 1.3 close to stock, fast, and great battery life.
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Agreed about Pinnacle--very reliable and a favorite of many.
You might also want to give a try with cyanogenmod 7, I liked it more than other roms. But it may depend on your choice. Thats the beauty of android, you have choices and most of them won't let you down.
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dbs179 said:
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Great, happy you've found your answer.
I'm selling my inspire 4g i'm going to get a galaxy nexus, i was using Icecold sandwich 7.0 from the desire hd, but the camcorder doesnt work and the keyboard freezes quite a few times, i cant sell my phone like that, would rom woul you flash on the inspire if you were going to sell it, i want something as stock as possible and with great battery life, one of the reasons im selling my inspire is because of the battery life i was getting , 7 hours at most! that's outrageous
Right now my only choice is android revolution but it has sense 3.0 which sucks, i wanted a 3.5 rom but most of them have been themed, 3.5 was never released officialy for the inspire or at leats the desire hd?
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I'm selling my inspire 4g i'm going to get a galaxy nexus, i was using Icecold sandwich 7.0 from the desire hd, but the camcorder doesnt work and the keyboard freezes quite a few times, i cant sell my phone like that, would rom woul you flash on the inspire if you were going to sell it, i want something as stock as possible and with great battery life, one of the reasons im selling my inspire is because of the battery life i was getting , 7 hours at most! that's outrageous
Right now my only choice is android revolution but it has sense 3.0 which sucks, i wanted a 3.5 rom but most of them have been themed, 3.5 was never released officialy for the inspire or at leats the desire hd?
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If you are selling it i would put it back on stock. This way you know everything works and wont have them calling you back to complain. Or you can wait to get the ICS update that is coming soon. (a few months maybe)
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If you are selling it i would put it back on stock. This way you know everything works and wont have them calling you back to complain. Or you can wait to get the ICS update that is coming soon. (a few months maybe)
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The thing is I forgot which one was the stock rom, I don't wanna pit something that old either, I just found out sense 3.5 wasn't officially released for the inspire 4g, what about the desire HD?
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Chad_Petree said:
The thing is I forgot which one was the stock rom, I don't wanna pit something that old either, I just found out sense 3.5 wasn't officially released for the inspire 4g, what about the desire HD?
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No only the DHD got an official 3.0 update.
CM7 or rooted stock
If it were me, I'd sell it with CM7 loaded on there - alternately you can find a rooted stock ROM - here on XDA, iirc. CM7 will offer them more flexibility, but the rooted stock will keep internet passthrough as an option. (Only thing I desperately miss on CM7)
I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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Also unless i knew the person, i wouldnt trust a rooted phone from someone else. No idea what kind of data loggers they have on there or message forwarders, call recorders etc etc. ya its just bad policy to sell modified phones unless requested to do so.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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I've sold two phones with CM7 on them and the people I sold them to had never owned a rooted phone. One of them was coming from an iPhone he had dropped in the sink - both of them were extremely satisfied with CM7 as the ROM. One of them has since gotten a new phone on contract and rooted it himself; the iPhone guy has since sworn off ever owning an apple phone again and still has the rooted inspire.
Give the people what they want, when they wants it, and they wants it all the time... (even if they don't know that's what they want at first.)
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I've sold two phones with CM7 on them and the people I sold them to had never owned a rooted phone. One of them was coming from an iPhone he had dropped in the sink - both of them were extremely satisfied with CM7 as the ROM. One of them has since gotten a new phone on contract and rooted it himself; the iPhone guy has since sworn off ever owning an apple phone again and still has the rooted inspire.
Give the people what they want, when they wants it, and they wants it all the time... (even if they don't know that's what they want at first.)
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Yeah but 2 people out of the entire phone population doesn't sound like it speaks for the majority. When it comes down to it, a 3rd party buyer who is looking at the phone has the same expectation as if it were new i.e. stock ROM on it. If the buyer asks for it rooted obviously its a different story. Not everyone wants a rooted phone, it just seems that way since XDA is all about getting more out of your phone, but the general phone user typically has no idea about rooting, ROMs and the like. Too each their own though, sell the phone whatever way you want, I would just rather sell it stock and not have to deal with non sense that may occur after the fact if something goes screwy.
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Yeah but 2 people out of the entire phone population doesn't sound like it speaks for the majority. When it comes down to it, a 3rd party buyer who is looking at the phone has the same expectation as if it were new i.e. stock ROM on it. If the buyer asks for it rooted obviously its a different story. Not everyone wants a rooted phone, it just seems that way since XDA is all about getting more out of your phone, but the general phone user typically has no idea about rooting, ROMs and the like. Too each their own though, sell the phone whatever way you want, I would just rather sell it stock and not have to deal with non sense that may occur after the fact if something goes screwy.
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Not only that but hopefully that way they cant crate a new account just to make new replies for the same stupid a** questions.
Itll never get old on xda. hahaha.
I would recommend CM7 because it is simple and to the point but still offers alot of flexibility. Although the average user might like a Sense ROM more because of the Facebook integration and such.
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I really don't see how it matters one way or the other. If you take it back to stock, you will most likely get more interested buyers. If you advertise it as rooted, you will attract those buyers that are looking for a rooted phone. There are alot of peeps that want a rooted phone, just so they can do simple stuff like remove bloat, yet are afraid to do it themselves, so you might be able to get a lil more for it rooted. Either way, I doubt you would want to provide your own personal warranty.
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I still love mine after just over a year with it. Some of the ROMs are a bit quirky but some are super nice. I'd save the upgrade for something later. Mine is coming in December and I am tempted to go GSIII or Note II. If there is something awesome on the horizon I'll wait and keep this.
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thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I personally moved from a G2 to a MyTouch 4G Slide.
The camera is great. I enjoyed the stock ROM for a bit before taking the plunge.
If you can get a unit for $150, that is a good deal. From what I understand, the MT4GS is now "an old phone."
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Coug76 said:
... I'd save the upgrade for something later. ...
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Definitely don't burn your upgrade on a MyTouch 4G Slide.
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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I have a MT4GS and recentally my wife got a Samsung Relay, which roughly takes the same spot in the T-Mobile lineup. Here are the pros/cons that I've noticed so far:
The MT4GS has a slide mechanism for the keyboard that IMHO is far superior, easier to open and close without it jamming as the Relay seems to tend to do;
The MT4GS feels more solid than the Relay, although this "solid" feeling comes with a bit of weight to it, although I do have an upgraded battery;
The Relay seems to have a better battery life, although I haven't tested side by side to analyze this in detail;
The MT4GS has active ROM development, including IMHO a nice CM 9.1 release, as well as Sense roms. Samsung phones obviously don't have sense.
I believe the Relay has been rooted already, but I haven't seen any solid third party ROM development yet, although signs are there will be some.
The relay has a dual S4 core (reports that it had the S3 were premature on this point), so is a bit faster than the dual S3 in the MT4GS, but not by such a huge amount that it will blow you away.
The Relay has a slightly larger screen, but again, not by so much that it will amaze you.
The Relay has ICS as the stock rom, while the MT4GS has GB. While you can put ICS on the MT4GS, it is nice to have a reasonably recent stock rom to fall back to. The flip side, is, as noted above, the relay doesn't have third party roms, so you simply don't have a choice at the moment.
My overall opinion is that for someone that likes playing with their phone, the MT4GS is a good choice for a tmobile slider today, although moving forward, the relay MAY take it's place for modding.
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Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Haah, I bought a little time ago that for 327,77 hardware+50 (shipment)+ 100 USD of duty..., because I prefer hardware keyboard, son-erric- is now good with Xperia -T LTE, but..without hardware keyboard. But Sony have really perfect build quality.
In EU this total price is normal for phone like MT4GS.....
B.R
El.
I would stay away from the cheaper ones. Our phone has had a track record of screens going bad, so if the seller is willing to let it go for a really low price, there may be problems.
Source: I've seen tons of phones on ebay with bad screens. Get one that's been refurbished, or only a few months old in great shape. Most refurbs look mint, because HTC usually replaces the whole top half of the phone when screens go bad
thesavvymage said:
As the title says, is the MT4GS still a decent buy? I'm currently on a T-mobile g2 with cm 7.1 and while i absolutely love this phone, its just... slow. I love having the hardware keyboard, and I used a galaxy s 3 for two weeks (with swiftkey) and it still didnt satisfy me. For now, it looks like this is still the best tmobile device that has a keyboard.
If I get it, I will for SURE be rooting and getting cm9.1 as soon as possible, as it seems stable.
Theyre currently on ebay for between 150-250 depending on condition. I Have an upgrade available, think I should spring for this??
PS: T-MOBILE HURRY UP AND MAKE THE G3!
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Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
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blackknightavalon said:
Go with the Galaxy Relay. If you want to keep your G2, upgrade to Andromadus test builds. They run really fast on my G2.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I only suggest our phone, because it has dev support and is much more affordable at this point. It takes at least a year for most android phones to start getting devs
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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How long have you had the device?
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elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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elister said:
Dont buy this phone, its stuck at Android 2.3.4 with no official updates. What roms are available are buggy as hell. The most common ones being.
#1) Battery drains too fast, too hot, or wont fully charge.
#2) USB file transfer dont work, or is very slow.
#3) GPS works and then doesnt work (hit or miss).
#4) Occasional graphical bugs that make Android 1.6 look attractive.
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Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Inquisition has none of those problems. It's quite possibly the most capable ICS rom I've encountered so far. Don't generalize CM9 problems to all roms out there
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Official updates- yes T-Mobile have vacation.... but- If you bought this phone and was broken- don't think taht all of this phone are same...you were out of luck-thats all. You can buy laptops, smartphone, for highest price from famous manufact.- and it's will be same. From year to year is worse with hardware quality no matter from which manufact.
Of course, you can make private ordering, they will do it to you- sony, nokia etc- for more than 10 K USD
Good Luck
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Wait till the jellybean sense ROMs are released and you will see the most stable 2011 phone with jellybean OS installed
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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Make sure you don't confuse what I said. Inquisition is the most capable. But if you want the most bug free ICS rom there is, it has to be Primadonna.
Well, this phone does the job for me quite well. I use cm9 because I love the extras it provides compared to the other ROMs.
If you do get this phone [or basically any phone] it is a good idea to grab a higher capacity battery just for convenience sakes. I have not done so yet because I bought the phone with an extra stock battery so that works for me. But yes, I did notice when I first got the phone, that the battery life is not as resilient as some others. Then again I do use stock bat.- the tweaked cm9 is making some headway on the drain problem with the community's help.
I recently looked into what other T-mobile phones are out there and as it turned out, my specific search query on phonescoop based on what I want in a phone only resulted in the mytouch 4g slide lol. So this is the phone for me and I am happy with it.
just wanted to add my 2 cents. i came from a rooted G2 running CM7, this phone was very capable, and i loved the housing, the keyboard, and the display. i dropped this phone so many times, but never had a cracked screen or cracked housing.
the only phone i wanted to upgrade to was the MT4GS, mainly because of the qwerty keyboard, and advanced camera.
even though the MT4GS is discontinued, i held out till my girlfriend got an iphone, and she gave me her MT4GS, only reason she got rid of it, was because of random reboots, constant freezing etc.
i happily took it, rooted it, and am really enjoying the phone. my favorite thing being the camera. only thing i could ask for is slightly more system memory, but i really can't complain. the MT4GS seems more capable hardware wise then a lot of newer phones on the market.
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elister said:
7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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Wow. Someone is full of themselves. Do you understand what XDA is founded on? Developers helping developers. Atleast those devs are doing something and trying to help out. It's people like you who show no appreciation for the devs work and just leech off them that makes devs not want to do it anymore. If you don't like any of the ROMs, do something about it. Either help them make it better or make your own ROM. I recommend the second, because then you'll see how disheartening it is for someone to bash your work that you spent hours and hours on.
Works well for me, no complaints
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7 roms in 10 months and most of them suffered from the problems mentioned above, most didnt last 3 days on my phone before going back to the stock rom. I need only see the first post of a rom being posted to see the list of what works and what doesnt work to turn me away. Lately, roms posted dont even have that list, so its "hey I just found this rom, absolutely no idea what works and doesnt work, have at it lab rats", so I typically ignore those roms because im not into blindly downloading a rom and re-installing all my apps, only to go back to stock.
I will give the Virtuous Inquisition rom a try, but im not holding my breath. I will be man enough to respond back and apologize should it kick ass.
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My phone isnt broken, just critical things dont work when these roms are installed.
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With all due respect, if you're getting no further into a link for a ROM than the 1st page you're not doing any of the research necessary to even find out if any of those initially listed glitches HAVE been fixed. And if not fixed in the original upload you'll miss those fixes & workarounds that have been discovered & explained by one of the other very capable developers we're lucky enough to have reside here & kindly teaching the rest of us. You TOO, if you don't mind doing some reading. Some ROMS have a couple hundred pages of research & further development added after the fact with things added for us very often in an individual obscure post. Virtuous Infinity is a PERFECT example. Download the things in the OP and you'll think the ROM kinda sux for it's length of development. But if you follow everything through to the end and follow all the directions you'll end up with a ROM you can make a nandroid of that will blow you away. To some extent, they are ALL like that.
MANY people come to XDA with a new phone with the idea that it's like going to a GM plant and waiting for just the one you've always looked for to roll out the door & drive away in. In actuality it's more like a trip to Lowes where you can take some idea you love into the store & ask the experts what tools you need, how to use them & why and end up with something to be VERY proud of. Of course that's JMHO.....
I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
You can see my opinion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51600010&postcount=65
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I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
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Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates.
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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slimbrady said:
I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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slimbrady said:
Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
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Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
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Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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I tried both links, but they didn't take me to any videos. I'm not on my phones browser. Can you post them to view on a PC? Thanks
idimitro said:
Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology. It made his hotspot active. I tested it by signing into his Photon Q's wifi network from from my phone and it worked. I only used it for about 5 minutes then uninstalled the app because he was afraid that Sprint would charge him to use the hotspot. I later called Sprint to check and they said that the hotspot was not active. I wonder if they could catch it and charge him if it was used more frequently.
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology.
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
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Correct, if you are running a custom ROM they don't seem to notice.
I tether via USB and wifi frequently and Sprint has never said anything. I do not have a tethering plan.
I know this thread is old... but I feel its still relevant.
This phone IS WORTH BUYING, especially if you are a die hard QWERTY person like myself. It appears to be the last man standing, riding off into the sunset.
The phone is basically a GS3 processor with a keyboard which is still a great phone. It functions great for work, custom roms, minor gaming, etc.
Since you can pick up a used one from Ebay in good condition for $90 it is becoming a great value as well.
The aftermarket community is still very active since they appear to have a soft spot for a true workhorse slider phone.
Until the "budget slider phones" have specs that meet or exceed the GS3 then this phone is still the best slider money can buy.
In the meantime if you care about new slider phones with max stats as a flagship device then you need to make your voice heard on facebook posts, blog posts, etc from all the mojor carriers like LG, Moto, and Samsung. I personally refuse to buy a phone without a slider and I let them know at every chance I get.
What ever happened to "Droid DOES"? Droid DOES NOT have a keyboard.
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Also you can do one click root and unlock programs, motochopper and motopocalypse. they are very easy. All you have to do is get fastboot onto your computer. there are some shell programs that include fastboot without downloading the entire android SDK
Yes, it's quite simple:
If you're into qwerty sliders, Photon Q is the top Android device ever manufactured in this category.
No matter that it's more than 1.5 year old now, no other/better high-end sliders have been produced since that time.
This device offers official bootloader unlock, so it's as open as Android gets.
The software support for its MSM8960 SoC is still under active development by the SoC manufacturer Qualcomm (published by CAF), so it can be perceived as a modern device even now.
The weakest spot of this device in my eyes is its 1785 mAh battery. But it easily survives one day of my active usage, so I'm fine with it. Just don't forget to put it on charger when you go to sleep .
Hey folks just wanted to say that I really love my V10. But coming from Nexus and some of the other LG series I am going crazy with the lack of "things" to tinker with. I am not exactly a flash-a-holic but I am definitely a tinkerer (if thats a word). I like to flash custom Roms and fool around with xposed and maybe a little mod here or there. It's crazy how this phone still has virtually no developer support or any kind of custom rom scene. (yes I understand why about the locked bootloaders etc etc). It's been so long I almost feel like I'm rusty and probably forgot how.. Haha.
Nevertheless I love it and it's a great phone (although a bit on the heavy side as time goes on). My wife just got the Galaxy S7 and it's so nice and small and bright and waterproof. Does make me think about looking other ways. I dunno. I hope LG doesn't just make this phone like a stepchild to the flagship series. Still barely gettin marshmallow update in other countries and not really anything new with the 2nd screen for any apps or anything. I guess this is borderline off topic but just some musings I've had the last week or so. Later!
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I feel the same way. I have been considering selling this and getting something else.
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If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
DarkestSpawn said:
If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
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Totally agree, I dont miss the phone dying on me once in a while, having to flash an "old" backup, loosing some data... And with xPosed this phone is as customisable as I ever needed :good:
I am the same ..im bored of this phone
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faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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Ppl like you will never understand what he talking about
Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
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Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
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I said you will never understand ..so even if i did explain it you won't understand its something like drugs
But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
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But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
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The need to be able to make a change to how the phone operates, and see that change in action.
And then change it again. Ownership of the device, playing with the experience of using the phone.
Getting to touch, swish, swipe, scroll - interact with the device (you never been in bed and gone endlessly through your settings menu, again and again; into all the options, all the possibilities? It's not really for the 'settings', you already know what you want really...It's to swish and swipe, especially if the phone is high end, the screen is beautiful and the actions like silk) until you fall asleep cradling it lovingly in your hand under the pillow and waking with it stuck to your cheek?
A sense of learning
A sense of making technology do what You want - of being able to effect change.
To. Develop. Perhaps.
To use the phone.
To discover and distribute something to others..
TO TWEAK BATTERY LIFE. (Heh)
To be part of a community doing the same.
This is my second LG phone, and absolutely latest one.
Whay?
Because of soooo pore support and update.
Update is nothing.
Im coming from LG G4, REALLY what's improvement in LG V10? nothing + poor update support.
At all i NEVER buy a LG phone and NEVER suggest any LG mobile phone for anyone.
Talk about 1st world problems ?
faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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So what are you going to buy now?
I've a v10 and will stay with it for at least one year. Since MM is being rolled-out, I'm pretty fine. I also had and still have several nexus devices and was disappointed by the quality of hardware.
There is a lot more to do on the V10 than my previous Nexus 6. I don't think I understand...
I don't get that guys here saying that they are moving to an other phone. Just do it. But noone cares which phone you have and why you're moving on. It seems like those guys still are not sure and just want other to ask them to stay. I don't care. Have fun with your next phone - until you get it and and complain and buy an other one. And so on and so on. There is an other root cause of your frustration and I'm pretty sure it's not the phone ?
This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
incidentflux said:
This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
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The best phone around by far :good:
Only one feature missing imo: IP68.
Should have stayed with my nexus 6. The second screen is a crappie gimmick. Gonna try and stick with this phone until the note comes out.