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Trying to decide which ROM to go with, hoping it fixes my issues

Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.

Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18

Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.

You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.

You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.

Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?

rodimus_prime said:
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.

rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html

I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.

Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.

I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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osendott said:
Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..

just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though

rodimus_prime said:
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...

im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet

rodimus_prime said:
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.

Best rom for the G2x?

Ok, normally its a no brainer as im used to CM7 on the G2, but i have been reading there is a lot of bugs with it (i have not read since nightly release 17 or so and i think its up to 30 or something around that now so i gotta catch up a bit i just got the phone today). I also read that eaglesbread or something like that is mentioned all over the place. normally i would not ask this question, but with this phone there is a lot of issues and want to clarify everything.
im an avid CM7 user, so trying other roms makes me nervous, so overall what has been the best ROM where everything works (gps, wifi, 4g, reboots, etc etc etc)
I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels, but please feel free to share combos of roms and kernels that work outstanding as well. again, im used to a G2, so over there i dont ask this question, as i started and will continue to use CM7 on my G2.
my G2x is already rooted.

You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer

tweezit said:
You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer
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lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.

tackleberry said:
lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.
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If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.

Profondo_Rosso said:
If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.
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Thanks for the input, would you mind clarifying what you mean by fairly stable?
Nonsense!

I've been using Eagles Blood 1.04 Froyo for about a week now and its been great. I chose this one because it looks stock and I like that (black status bar is a nice mod too). Everything has worked fine: wifi, calls, GPS, 4G, good battery life, etc. I tried a couple Gingerbread variants but I had too many issues -- freezes, major keyboard lag, GPS not locking on. Haven't tried CM yet, although I loved it on my Nexus One.
Just my 2¢
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There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it

Hypocriticalplan said:
There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it
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I am running the froyo eb. 04. Seems pretty good. Battery life has improved a lot so far. I do want volume button wake but I haven't read where that was yet or if its even available I just remember seeing it somewhere.
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tried them all and like eaglesblood the best!

tackleberry said:
I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels
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You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.

Faux asop is pretty solid for me. His latest with kernel is doing well so far. I haven't had the random loss in audio lately. If the battery is wrong I don't care because I am ocd and it helps me not worry!
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I have come to like stock Froyo the most, without bloatware of course.
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Cm7 and faux aosp is epic win right now. I'm waiting on krylon to release bionix rc2.....
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sl0play said:
You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.
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Same here. I liked cyanogen mod up through 4.1.11.1 on my G1 but ever since then there have been roms that are both faster and more stable. Props to cyanogen for influencing the movement though. Not knocking him, just not my style anymore... going to try faux's aosp I think.
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Anyone have an update on their favorites? Seems like we've had an explosion of new ROMs lately.
Hey devs, might you want to consolidate your efforts a bit?

MR2 Coming Soon

MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.

Awesome. I can wait for GB no problem, I just want a fix for the reboots. I'm sick of my phone rebooting 5+ times a day, happy an update is coming soon.
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OR... you could just scoot on over to the dev forum and pick yourself up a spiffy new rom built on MR2 which is quite solid and fast and will use the same or very similar radios to what will be in the OTA. I tried a couple of them. They are spartan on fancy stuff, but they are reliable if nothing else. Possibly the most functional and reliable roms over there.

Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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My thoughts exactly. Sure I would like to avoid the reboots (given I have had 2 in a 3 week period), and maybe a faster better radio, but the software and sense is so solid.

need bb said:
MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
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Where did you get this info?

dcjamies said:
Where did you get this info?
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Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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Bingo.. agreed 100%
Coming from HTC devices like the 8525, ATT Tilt, and Touch Pro 2, Ive just about had my share of ROMs for a lifetime. I just want something that works. After paying all this money, Im gonna let Verizon and HTC do what they're supposed to do.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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I agree with wanting an official update, but the stock rom is far from good. Yes the speed is good but the battery life is horrible. With custom roms I have been able to triple my battery life and limit the random reboots I was getting stock, along with the already good speed being improved. Das BAMF Stripped 1.8

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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agreed. So far only 1 reboot in 2 weeks (apparently that is good) and I get occasional instances where home button doesn't want to work.
I just wish the damn thing rebooted faster. It takes almost 2 minutes to boot, then another couple of minutes before sense is responsive.
Coming from the hd7 and 25 second boot times, this is killer...
I also made/used custom roms on my q9c, tp2 and hd2, but want to give stock a chance. Maybe I will root if I decide I need to tether, but so far, things are looking good stock.

Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock

crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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alot of us are. thanks for your concern.

adrynalyne said:
Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
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But I read it on the internet, so that has to make it true.

mr2.5 is treating me well and ive had zero reboots. i can wait a bit for the new radio.

crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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#1 how do you know it's been pushed back?
#2 i think most on here and happily enjoying gingerbread but thanks for the concern.

Some documents state we will be getting a removal of free mobile hotspot via ota July 6th . Maybe it will be attached to the update .
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Both the MR2 and the MR2.5 have been a good temporary fix for me, until a new radio is released.

Crazyhtown = Lol enjoy stock[/QUOTE said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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"mr2" we leaked on the forums is NOT mr2. 1.66/1.67/1.68/1.69 will not be MR2.
I can confirm OP's comments on the current "mr2" candidate version number, and give a approximate release of july 6th. With verizon things are given to change, the release date can change, so can the version being released.

Jrocker23 said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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His comment was pretty blunt/unhelpful and rude, but there does tend to be some complaining from those that want to have their cake (those that don't want to root) and eat it too (still want updates/workarounds as quick as those that have root).
Those that seem to be frustrated by such things, perhaps android is not the phone for them or at least android phones that are not officially blessed by google (nexus phones).

The benefits of going back to Stock...

So I was and always have been an admitted flashaholic.. for the eye candy, the customization, the things you can't do on stock (non-root) such as tethering and such. I tried GB early on, too buggy, was happy with Froyo. More recently I flashed Synergy and am pretty happy but really beginning to question whether or not going back to stock is just the best way to go. The Netflix and Skype are cool but honestly don't use 'em all that often. Assuming I could still tether on stock and rooted, I just may do that.
I can't be alone here. I imagine many of you have gone back for battery life, less bugginess, etc. What are your thoughts, am I alone in this? If I'm not, why did you revert and what benefits do you see by doing so?

Not trying to sound like a smart ass...don't take it that way.
But I'd love to hear of someone going back to stock for better battery life.
That's one of the top reasons to root and ROM your phone. Fat and services not needed go bye bye...

Couldn't you still swap kernel tho on a stock rom? That was just an example and even if you were being a smartass it wouldn't bother me any. Here to learn man, here to learn. I have not experimented with my TB like I did my old WinMo phones, still a bit intimidated honestly.

Don't be intimidated. They're simple.
Keep a good backup plan.
You can't change ROMs or Kernals that I know of without root access.

dajogejr said:
Not trying to sound like a smart ass...don't take it that way.
But I'd love to hear of someone going back to stock for better battery life.
That's one of the top reasons to root and ROM your phone. Fat and services not needed go bye bye...
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Sounds like he is staying rooted just using rooted stock build, so he can still tether
I use the stock rooted froyo rom quit a bit still. Aosp is still work in progress although has come a long way and there hasnt really been a Verizon GB leak for the TB that is even close to a release build quality, Chingys is closest currently but only offered modded so far.
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Try DroidTh3ory's AOSP build.
Damn near flawless.
He mentioned stock build non-root...so I thought that's where he was going...

My front camera does not work and the back camera stops working after a few uses. I then need to restart.
My question is, are there any GB Sense/AOSP roms that work well with the front and/or back camera?

Had no issue with Synergy, BAMF or DroidTh3ory ROMs when it comes to camera(s).

Yeah, would definitely stay rooted for tether but otherwise, the stock software is like 100% flawless, no glitches or hang ups whatsoever. If I'm not having wierd radio issues with most the GB roms, my MMS isn't the same, or overall the phone just feels more sluggish.

My battery life was just horrible with the stock. Once CM7 was stable enough to run as my daily driver I went to it. No issues at all and it runs just as smooth as the stock.

Back to Stock
My first TB was rooted and flashed with a variety of Froyo roms. I was constantly tweaking it and fiddling with it. But I dropped and busted it.
My replacement unit (from Geek Squad) arrived but I didn't have the spare time to root and flash. Then MR2 came.
Now, other than a modest improvement to my battery life, rooting and flashing really holds no benefit to me. I use EasyTether for tethering; it works just fine for me. Everything else . . . Just works.
Maybe after GB I might root . . . But only if I can gain some new functionality.

Stumpsalot said:
My battery life was just horrible with the stock. Once CM7 was stable enough to run as my daily driver I went to it. No issues at all and it runs just as smooth as the stock.
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Sadly what works for some doesn't for others and some only notice it due to how they use their phone. Like on AOSP roms I have issues with missing calls and low in-call volume and network location. I haven't had as many issues on GB releases other than some messed up time stamps on SMS and small annoyances like that. I can get a full day on current froyo build and everything works.
I say run what works best for you that is why we are all rooted, so we have a choice just as we would on our computers or whatever.
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benefit is that you have no warranty issue. if you s-on

Wiseblood said:
My first TB was rooted and flashed with a variety of Froyo roms. I was constantly tweaking it and fiddling with it. But I dropped and busted it.
My replacement unit (from Geek Squad) arrived but I didn't have the spare time to root and flash. Then MR2 came.
Now, other than a modest improvement to my battery life, rooting and flashing really holds no benefit to me. I use EasyTether for tethering; it works just fine for me. Everything else . . . Just works.
Maybe after GB I might root . . . But only if I can gain some new functionality.
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Running rooted MR2 debloated. Everything just works. My gut feeling tells me we're in the "salad days" of the Thunderbolt right now. The MR2 release is that good.
Gingerbread will come soon and bring with it a host of problems just like it has when it was released on every other phone. I'm only rooted now so that I can stick with my current setup and ride out the GB release and subsequent fixes until it reaches a similar state of maturity.
MR2 has made the 'bolt a great phone. Yes, battery life could be better but the only fix there is a bigger battery (like the 1900mAh batt in the upcoming Bionic).

even if you go back to stock at least leave it rooted so that way you can always go back to flashing if you wanted. once you get the newest OTA you're locked in to the stock ROM till it get cracked.(if it hasn't already I'm rooted so I didn't pay too much attention to that)

I really cant think of a reason to go back to stock.
Ive been following droidtheory's roms, and he is a genius.
If u can live without sense, his latest aosp build is just amazing. No probelms whatsoever on my end (cam/skype/tether/sms/vids/gps/calls)
And battery life ia exceptional.
Honestly, imo, stock has got absolutely nothing on DT.
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sorry need to reach 10 posts so I can hit up dev page. sorry for repost.
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You could of at least not been so blatant about what you were doing, could of said anything about topic
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Wiseblood said:
My first TB was rooted and flashed with a variety of Froyo roms. I was constantly tweaking it and fiddling with it. But I dropped and busted it.
My replacement unit (from Geek Squad) arrived but I didn't have the spare time to root and flash. Then MR2 came.
Now, other than a modest improvement to my battery life, rooting and flashing really holds no benefit to me. I use EasyTether for tethering; it works just fine for me. Everything else . . . Just works.
Maybe after GB I might root . . . But only if I can gain some new functionality.
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if you did not root your replacement TB, how are you using easytether? Doesn't it require root?

You say no cam issues? I have found that a big one for me... got an 8mp cam but flash some Rom's and loose quality! Lol I'm a noob
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Every one of the ROMs seems to have something wrong with it and I got tired of dealing with it.
Bamf was just overloaded and seemed sluggish, text messages came in with the wrong timestamp.
CM7 was chewing up the battery in standby. It gets old fast, and having to set up all those accounts all the time is a nuisance.
I'm with ya bro, running stock debloated and have zero issues and Im getting great battery life.
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Is it that bad?

I am interested in potentially owning a G2X and I have been doing research on it.
I hear that it freezes all the time, text don't come through, and it is just a pain.....and then i hear people have no problems with it at all.
Is it really that bad? I don't really care about specs or else i'd get a sensation, amaze or galaxy s2.
It is free right now(Along with the Sidekick 4g...which i was considering getting but i've heard even worse stuff about that one)
But is this phone truly that bad?

It really depends on what you are going to do with it.
If you are planning on rooting it and installing a custom rom, kernel, etc then a lot of those issues will be fixed and the phone will operate very well.
On the other hand if you arent going to root it then it has got some serious problems. The code on this phone is ****, so that potentially leads to a lot of problems. Basically if you are not going to root it, i would not suggest it.
In the end this phone has serious potential and that potential can be unlocked if you root it and add roms, but if not it has too many problems and just isnt worth the hassle.

I've never had a single problem with my g2x. I think most of the issues are in the early production ones.
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I had mine for over 5 months before i rooted it and installed CM. The issues were minimal for me and i loved the device. Why did i end up rooting it and putting on a custom rom? Not to fix issues, but to be daring (using the term loosely here), and have fun with my device. I actually liked it so much, I bought a second. What were my issues? Lockups now and again, but it seemed to be heat related (ie when plugged in while driving my car), causing to remove the battery and turn it back on. Never had an issue with texts not coming through.
I also got my original for free...and to me, the random battery pull wasn't a show stopper (my palm running WebOS would lock up too now and again) and was easily overlooked due to the specs and capabilities of the device.
On a side note...I still see a random battery pull with CM installed, so custom roms isnt a fix all for this device either...but i still love it(them). Other roms may address other issues, but I havent tried any others so i cant say from personal experience. I have also played with a Sidekick 4G...negative captain...it drove me crazy.
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You'll be fine man. Most of those problems occurs in the first batch of G2x' when it first came out. Good luck.

I don't believe that'd true, I had g2x 2 weeks since release. I think people just don't know how to use a phone.
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moeahmad1995 said:
I don't believe that'd true, I had g2x 2 weeks since release. I think people just don't know how to use a phone.
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So you are saying there's no bad productions of this phone and they all have no issues despite all the reported common problems people have experienced?
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I will put it this way, if I had the chance to get this phone for free with my past experience with it, is a yes. Would I pay 200$ and re-up on my contract... not a chance in hell. With the SGS II out right I would go for that or an HTC phone. For free this phone is more then good enough though.

Free G2X? Worth it.
Making bad decision's one at a time.

I would say if you get the phone and put Cyanogenmod on it, it's awesome, when I stuck with the stock ROM, it would freeze overnight, now that I have Cyanogenmod I have no problems whatsoever

My g2x is very stable overclocked to 1.6 with morphic's kernel. Cyanogenmod with the Trinity kernel is stable, fast, and very fun.
I paid for mine and it was worth every penny.
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If you are getting this phone for free DO IT! In the end the phone works great and plays every game I load up, rooting and adding a custom rom is a must, I find that weapon is a good rom for the average user, the only thing I didnt like was the back cover but thats just me being picky

i think i was one of the lucky ones to get the first of the 2nd batch of the g2x. i did not have any problems with my phone but i rooted it after about a week. I have to say that the custom rooms are buttery smooth. You have so much more flexibility and it just creates for a much much better user experience. The stock was choppy, not as smooth, and was not very customizable. so i would say if you intend to put custom roms on it, this phone is perfect. if you want to keep it stock then i would go for the galaxy s2.

Every phone will have its issues. If its free, sure get it. If u got the dough to spare then go for the s2

the funny thing is i ask myself the same question when i bought mine your answer well i would buy it again i have had no issues im running a quadrant with phoneixblood rom trinity 15 kernal ext 4 at 6120 my battery last all day with moderate use with juice defender i think you would be totally happy with it its so simple to root like 5 minutes several very good roms for phone cyanogenmod eaglesblood phoneixblood miui you wont be dissapointed if you get it and you need help rooting flashing or anything just inbox me on here i gladly help in any way

Coming from someone that still has a release day phone, the only issues the stock phone ever gave me was stone random lockups, like 10 in the 2 months i had it stock. And for me that issue was fixed completely fixed with a flash to cyanogen mod. I'm really happy with this phone, and i honestly would buy it again even with the original $200 price tag.
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I had a lot of issues with this phone stock but once i rooted and did all the stuff to it its running fine now.

I got my phone about a month ago. And yes, those lock ups or screen of deaths occurred a couple times in a few days. Rooted it and flashed a different rom/kernel and now it works wonderful. I believe it is the stock kernel that causes the issues.
My friend had this phone before and he hated it because of all the issues. He then went on to get another phone and told me not to waste my time.... It's unfortunate he didn't read up about rooting the device. This phone has awesome specs, and for the price of $100 that I got it for, I wanted to give it a try.

No problems for this phone whatsoever. Its a good phone I'd say.
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thanks for the comments, you have made up my mind. upgrading from a optimist t to the g2x in 3 days (when my tax return comes in) already downloaded all the rom's i'm going to flash....