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Looks as though we might get JB after all.

According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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could be possible but we will be waiting awhile we havnt evn
got official ics yet which should be released soon as we are
already in the third quater

Fall of Enosis said:
According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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I've given up all hopeful ambition, until I actually see ICS or JB, I will be swillin' beers and learnin' Linux like a college kid...

That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Fall of Enosis said:
That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Well, I would consider it more a "gettin' ready for the glory hole" plan, so as to be of some contributor-level support on what everyone is waiting so anxiously for (ICS/JB for the ATRIX 2); and beyond that, this has become an enormous interest for me, as I am sure is the same for many others, and just want to get at the heart of it with full fervor... but, nonetheless, I know where our limitations are, what our capabilities are possible of, and know that we (the A2 community) can seriously tear this phone a new one when all put our heads together! In the meantime, I shall be immersing myself in getting "me smarts on" as some kid in college said to me, who probably now works for the city's sanitation department!

That article is just speculation. With the atrix hd coming out i highly doubt we will get jb officially. Once we have official ics the devs will be able to work up something for us.
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It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.

motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like thery did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean
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Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

mtnlion said:
Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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+1 to that. I'm done with Moto for good. Unless they make a Nexus phone...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...
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The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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tmease1 said:
I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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Bump.... For sure last moto, unless they change policy.
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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smgulsby said:
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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Lol...no. Don't kid yourself.

kc92iyngr said:
It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.
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True, and the reasons for JB denial on SGS2
dual core(min quad required??)
low resolution(min hd 1280x720)
I guess a2 has similar config, and also likely to miss the JB upgrade

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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Not all OG atrix ....some r still in plans of evaluation and planing.....nd i think some has even been rejected for ics......anyways OG ATRIX WAS A FLAGSHIP OF its time i read Engadget article how AT&T introduce new phone to market posted here by Dev Jim ....... The reason they r updating it to ICS IS due to its flagship status .....while Atrix 2 is not a hit or flagship device........nd now since they release ATRIX HD Like defy plus......the chances has became slim ....anyways ur right with moto for excellent phone.......its the only reason i got this phone after using defy for a year....

This will be my last Android let alone Moto!

other way
We should consult Oracle (from matrix) bootloader UNLOCKING :laugh:
or hire Neo

Need a second android phone

Greetings all,
Just got an S3. Getting to know it and like it a lot.
I need a second android phone for my business line. Considered the Google Nexus but heard mixed reviews. Any ideas?
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Motorola Droid Razr Max HD

HTC One X would be a good choice!
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I'd get the razor Maxx
Gs3

Never thought I'd say this but since it is for a business line I say go with anything from the Motorola Droid RAZR line.The signal quality on those are superb and since its business I'm sure that's most important.
I would've recommended the Galaxy Nexus but I use to have a huge struggle with maintaining signal. I went through 5 gnex until they offered to give me a gs3 and I took it. I know plenty of people that use to have the issue didn't have it anymore once they flashed those recent jelly bean radios but there were also some like myself that still had the problem.
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xvitality said:
HTC One X would be a good choice!
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No offense to you personally, but I couldn't see getting an Android phone whose multitasking has been crippled, with a unibody design that makes battery replacement difficult and no SD card slot.
I'd still get it above an iPhone because it's essentially been whittled down to iPhone limitations with the size and OS we expect from contemporary Android phones, but within the Android product lines it's not something I'd seek out above others. If their JB update fixes the multitasking limitations, I could more easily see it as a second phone, though.
If I needed a second phone that wasn't necessarily in the GS3 class and dev wasn't an immediate goal, I might try out the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
My $0.02.
- ooofest

RAZR maxx or if you waited the RAZR maxx hd

[Q] HD/HD MAXX ROMs incoming...?

Hi folks, contract up in January, I'm after a phone with good hardware and long battery life that I can flash to 4.1 vanilla.
Any news on roms in the works for HD and HD MAXX?
I noted there was a 4.1 leak, can anyone confirm if this is vanilla android?

Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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Deus_eps_machina said:
There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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The recovery is only confirmed to work on the XT925... All Verizon phones are locked (aside from the developer edition.)
And about the ROMs, yes, they will come... Give it some time.

afmracer6 said:
Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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This. Also besides the usual Verizon bloat this phone is pretty darn vanilla. When roms do start flowing I'll be happy with a jb debloated Rom.
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theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion

Check hascodes tweets. He could release safestrap 3 now if people wanted... ROM flashing isn't working right yet apparently but you can still back up apparently.
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DertyDOH said:
theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion
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Hopefully development kicks start soon.
I agree.... sub forum for development.
Everything else should stay the same.
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Can someone confirm for me how many different types of the HD are around. 925 and 926 in the US, is the International version (I'm in Australia) with an unlocked boot loader the same as your developer edition or is it another version?
I'm trying to decide between a razr HD or a nexus, but don't want to get stuck on old software again.
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Rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/36022-rom-vitreous-10-11082012-jelly-bean-41-42/

I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.

Teejai80 said:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.
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I made the call to purchase an HD Maxx via Swappa to replace my GNex. Post Jellybean Gnex battery life has dropped to ~6hrs, so battery life became #1 priority for me. However, since I bought the phone at retail price and not through any subsidized plan, I did not sign a new contract. This preserves my unlimited data, and allows me to jump to another carrier if I wish . . . I believe my contract end date is sometime in December.
With the Gnex, Verizon screwed up in such an epic fashion that I was ready to jump ship as soon as the Nexus 4 launched. But its battery being only 2100mah, nonremovable, and wildly varying numbers for battery life as well as its paltry internal storage really put me off.
Still might sell off the Gnex and HD Maxx in a few months . . . a 32GB/64GB Nexus 4 would really help that decision.

Help me decide... Coming from an iPhone 5

I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!

Koxu said:
I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!
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Here is my thread on jumping from the M to the Maxx HD... it got locked with some trash talking. I guess the Mods close threads instead of dealing with people pooping in other peoples threads... Regardless it lays out good and bad of both devices pretty well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049159

I've been using an iPhone for the past few weeks, and my RAZR HD should be here by the end of the week. I can give you a full rundown of both devices.
I wouldn't even consider the RAZR M. The screen isn't the best. It's low res and pentile. I would chose either the RAZR HD or the RAZR MAXX HD.
Honestly, I can't wait to get my hands on it. The iPhone just has way too many limitations.
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Mr.Mischief said:
I've been using an iPhone for the past few weeks, and my RAZR HD should be here by the end of the week. I can give you a full rundown of both devices.
I wouldn't even consider the RAZR M. The screen isn't the best. It's low res and pentile. I would chose either the RAZR HD or the RAZR MAXX HD.
Honestly, I can't wait to get my hands on it. The iPhone just has way too many limitations.
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I sincerely look forward to your rundown comparison. Keep me posted!

I went with the regular HD over the MAXX with some concerns over battery, but I use my phone thought my day in wireless retail and it is my only contact with my DM who texts 40 - 50 messages a day and I rarely get under 30% battery after using it from 0800 to 2300-2400
I would say save a penny and go with just the HD

Koxu said:
I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!
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Unless you prefer a phone closer in overall size to the iPhone, I would definitely go with the HD. The M has decent battery life but the screen is definitely not as nice as the other devices. It is slightly wider than the iPhone which is helpful if like me you have thick fingers. Personally, I went for the Razr Maxx HD for the even wider screen and subsequently easier typing and the crazy battery. The storage capacity is also nice addition.
If you do opt for the Maxx HD, I'd get if from Amazon Wireless instead of Verizon because it's only $149.

If you are coming from an iPhone and plan on taking any pics I would strongly advise against the RAZR m. Its camera is anemic. My dad just got the Maxx HD. Its camera is tolerable. Battery and signal have been great tho

My RAZR HD arrived today.
Do far:
Great battery life
Solid construction
Very nice screen(better than my S3)
Strong wifi a cell signals
Pretty snappy(I haven't updated it to Jelly Bean yet)
Android OS. It's just so much smarter than iOS. I can tether without jail breaking, and the notification bar is smart(version the app menu Apple calls their notification bar).
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[Q] Is this the end for rooting Droid Razrs?

I've owned a Droid Razr Maxx (gave it to my son, who still loves it), a Droid Razr Maxx HD (bootloader unlocked) and a second Maxx HD (running 9.18.79 unfortunately but I got a good deal on it second-hand). All are on Verizon as I'm one of five on a family plan. I've rooted all of them, I unlocked the bootloader on the 9.16.6, I'm run different custom ROMs on the 9.16.6 and I'm running a stock-based custom ROM on the 9.18.79.
I'm not smart enough to write code or be a developer but I love being able to control my phones, root them, flash custom ROMs, install custom themes, change launchers, etc etc. In fact, I probably enjoy messing with rooting and ROMs and stuff more than actually using the phones. Its just interesting.
Every thing I'm reading now says that the days of exploits and unlocking and maybe even rooting may be ending. It seems that every update and every new phone that Verizon releases is locked down tighter than the one before. I assume this terrible trend will carry over to the new Droids that Verizon will release later this month.
At first I thought OK fine, I'll just grab a few bootloader-unlocked Razr Maxx HDs and be happy with that for a while. But then I realized that a shrinking pool of mod-able phones will mean less future work being done by devs, which will mean fewer new custom ROMs and cool new features. So, and here's the big question for me -- WHERE WILL THE MOST ROBUST CUSTOM WORK ON VERIZON PHONES BE? It's just not practical right now for me to change carriers or go to prepaid so I'm stuck with Verizon (I like Verizon mostly but evidently they're dicks about locking down their phones). Will developers move from Motorola Droid phones to HTC phones or some other manufacturer or will the assault on "open" phones apply to all new Verizon phones?

The Verizon HTC One isn't even out yet and it has root and a custom recovery. The bootloader is easily unlocked from HTCDev.
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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mentose457 said:
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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I hope your wrong. I'm hoping with all the different variations of the moto x available on other carriers there will be a crack somewhere.
I can live without root, but it's much more preferred.
Currently I'm running cm10.2 on my ATRIX HD MAXX. she'll be my backup in case I Bork my X.
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The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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deeje00 said:
The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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Good news. The link for those interested... http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/02/moto-x-bootloader-developer-edition/
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