I've owned a Droid Razr Maxx (gave it to my son, who still loves it), a Droid Razr Maxx HD (bootloader unlocked) and a second Maxx HD (running 9.18.79 unfortunately but I got a good deal on it second-hand). All are on Verizon as I'm one of five on a family plan. I've rooted all of them, I unlocked the bootloader on the 9.16.6, I'm run different custom ROMs on the 9.16.6 and I'm running a stock-based custom ROM on the 9.18.79.
I'm not smart enough to write code or be a developer but I love being able to control my phones, root them, flash custom ROMs, install custom themes, change launchers, etc etc. In fact, I probably enjoy messing with rooting and ROMs and stuff more than actually using the phones. Its just interesting.
Every thing I'm reading now says that the days of exploits and unlocking and maybe even rooting may be ending. It seems that every update and every new phone that Verizon releases is locked down tighter than the one before. I assume this terrible trend will carry over to the new Droids that Verizon will release later this month.
At first I thought OK fine, I'll just grab a few bootloader-unlocked Razr Maxx HDs and be happy with that for a while. But then I realized that a shrinking pool of mod-able phones will mean less future work being done by devs, which will mean fewer new custom ROMs and cool new features. So, and here's the big question for me -- WHERE WILL THE MOST ROBUST CUSTOM WORK ON VERIZON PHONES BE? It's just not practical right now for me to change carriers or go to prepaid so I'm stuck with Verizon (I like Verizon mostly but evidently they're dicks about locking down their phones). Will developers move from Motorola Droid phones to HTC phones or some other manufacturer or will the assault on "open" phones apply to all new Verizon phones?
The Verizon HTC One isn't even out yet and it has root and a custom recovery. The bootloader is easily unlocked from HTCDev.
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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mentose457 said:
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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I hope your wrong. I'm hoping with all the different variations of the moto x available on other carriers there will be a crack somewhere.
I can live without root, but it's much more preferred.
Currently I'm running cm10.2 on my ATRIX HD MAXX. she'll be my backup in case I Bork my X.
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The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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deeje00 said:
The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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Good news. The link for those interested... http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/02/moto-x-bootloader-developer-edition/
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Greetings all,
Just got an S3. Getting to know it and like it a lot.
I need a second android phone for my business line. Considered the Google Nexus but heard mixed reviews. Any ideas?
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HTC One X would be a good choice!
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I'd get the razor Maxx
Gs3
Never thought I'd say this but since it is for a business line I say go with anything from the Motorola Droid RAZR line.The signal quality on those are superb and since its business I'm sure that's most important.
I would've recommended the Galaxy Nexus but I use to have a huge struggle with maintaining signal. I went through 5 gnex until they offered to give me a gs3 and I took it. I know plenty of people that use to have the issue didn't have it anymore once they flashed those recent jelly bean radios but there were also some like myself that still had the problem.
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HTC One X would be a good choice!
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No offense to you personally, but I couldn't see getting an Android phone whose multitasking has been crippled, with a unibody design that makes battery replacement difficult and no SD card slot.
I'd still get it above an iPhone because it's essentially been whittled down to iPhone limitations with the size and OS we expect from contemporary Android phones, but within the Android product lines it's not something I'd seek out above others. If their JB update fixes the multitasking limitations, I could more easily see it as a second phone, though.
If I needed a second phone that wasn't necessarily in the GS3 class and dev wasn't an immediate goal, I might try out the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
My $0.02.
- ooofest
RAZR maxx or if you waited the RAZR maxx hd
Hi folks, contract up in January, I'm after a phone with good hardware and long battery life that I can flash to 4.1 vanilla.
Any news on roms in the works for HD and HD MAXX?
I noted there was a 4.1 leak, can anyone confirm if this is vanilla android?
Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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Deus_eps_machina said:
There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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The recovery is only confirmed to work on the XT925... All Verizon phones are locked (aside from the developer edition.)
And about the ROMs, yes, they will come... Give it some time.
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Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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This. Also besides the usual Verizon bloat this phone is pretty darn vanilla. When roms do start flowing I'll be happy with a jb debloated Rom.
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theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion
Check hascodes tweets. He could release safestrap 3 now if people wanted... ROM flashing isn't working right yet apparently but you can still back up apparently.
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theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion
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Hopefully development kicks start soon.
I agree.... sub forum for development.
Everything else should stay the same.
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Can someone confirm for me how many different types of the HD are around. 925 and 926 in the US, is the International version (I'm in Australia) with an unlocked boot loader the same as your developer edition or is it another version?
I'm trying to decide between a razr HD or a nexus, but don't want to get stuck on old software again.
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Rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/36022-rom-vitreous-10-11082012-jelly-bean-41-42/
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.
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I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.
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I made the call to purchase an HD Maxx via Swappa to replace my GNex. Post Jellybean Gnex battery life has dropped to ~6hrs, so battery life became #1 priority for me. However, since I bought the phone at retail price and not through any subsidized plan, I did not sign a new contract. This preserves my unlimited data, and allows me to jump to another carrier if I wish . . . I believe my contract end date is sometime in December.
With the Gnex, Verizon screwed up in such an epic fashion that I was ready to jump ship as soon as the Nexus 4 launched. But its battery being only 2100mah, nonremovable, and wildly varying numbers for battery life as well as its paltry internal storage really put me off.
Still might sell off the Gnex and HD Maxx in a few months . . . a 32GB/64GB Nexus 4 would really help that decision.
As the title states I'm just curious if most people here are using their personal devices and taking a chance of bricking a $600 device...
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Majestic3 said:
As the title states I'm just curious if most people here are using their personal devices and taking a chance of bricking a $600 device...
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Of course we all are! What would be the point if we weren't?
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As the title states I'm just curious if most people here are using their personal devices and taking a chance of bricking a $600 device...
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I got mine for $300 off on kijiji. Since its the XT925 I unlocked the BL but I'm not trying much since I need to keep it functional at least til my semester is over I rely a lot on this thing
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That's what I'm saying its my primary phone and I guess I just don't have enough faith in myself after reading through people trial and error with this phone :/
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That's what I'm saying its my primary phone and I guess I just don't have enough faith in myself after reading through people trial and error with this phone :/
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I am. Used to have a I9300 and everything was easier with it. Apart from root, I haven't felt the need to unlock bootloader or flash anything on my razr.
Yet.
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I am. Used to have a I9300 and everything was easier with it. Apart from root, I haven't felt the need to unlock bootloader or flash anything on my razr.
Yet.
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Yeah it was very simple with my optimus one and it was only a $100 phone so I didn't stress it, but I'm sure once its confirmed that we won't get updates past jb4.1.1 and IF ( big if) it becomes a lot less worry full about all the **** that could go wrong rooting and flashing this device, then I might join in on it.
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Lol rest assured the HD will be getting updates past 4.1.1....
If you are able to unlock the bootloader (xt925 or dev edition xt926) then you really have very little to worry about. You can always fastboot restore the device if something goes wrong. Or, even easier just flash a custom recovery, make a backup of stock and you can simply flash/restore back to it if there is ever a problem.
Along with that, rooting with an unlocked BL is simple. Use a custom recovery and flash the su.zip.
My bootloader is unlocked and I've been on every ROM we have available, both through safestrap and TWRP. Its a lot of fun.
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I payed a lot of money for my razr hd, and my car, but that doesn't stop me from modding
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Lol well I have the regular x926 non dev, ifni unlock my bootloader and root the phone, if I ever need to is it possible to unroot and relock boot loader?
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Majestic3 said:
As the title states I'm just curious if most people here are using their personal devices and taking a chance of bricking a $600 device...
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I use my AHD for deving and modding. Bricked it more times than I can count. Luckily not perma-brick lol. Its 50 bucks to fix that.
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Lol well I have the regular x926 non dev, ifni unlock my bootloader and root the phone, if I ever need to is it possible to unroot and relock boot loader?
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Can't unlock the boot loader on the consumer 926. You can unroot but there is a thing in stock recovery that let's them know if you were ever rooted.
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Well that's rather disappointing, hope it can be worked around although I'm sure I'll never need to return the device...ya just never know and I just can't risk not having a phone with a kid and 6 month pregnant wife and I work over an hour from home.
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Hi, the last time I used a Moto phone as a daily driver was my Motorola Droid X. Ever since, it has been Samsung devices. I had to sell my Note 2 for extra cash and purchased the Razr HD from Swappa. I am expected to receive the phone in a few days.
Since I am incredibly spoiled with easy rooting, unlocking, and hacking from Samsung development, can any Razr HD users help educate me on how to root and unlock the XT926 variant? I don't want to jump in and mess anything up as the Droid X was a PITA with SBF'ing and its locked BL.
Thank you and I am glad to be back with Motorola.
All,
Will a Verizon Motorola Droid Razr Maxx use the same roms as Motorola Droid Razr HD? My parents both have Verizon Motorola Droid Razr Maxx and I'm thinking it would be a good idea to put a custom Rom on both of their phones. I used to have a rooted HTC droid Eris and Motorola Droid Global. So I have somewhat of an idea of what I'm doing. The only problem is I want to make sure that these roms will work on their phones.
Also, extremely dumb question since everyone will say something different but what is the best stable ROM out there for reliability? I remember HTC sense being ultra easy to use with the stock overlay of just clicking phone at the bottom etc.
Thanks,
Chris
Cheatman1 said:
All,
Will a Verizon Motorola Droid Razr Maxx use the same roms as Motorola Droid Razr HD? My parents both have Verizon Motorola Droid Razr Maxx and I'm thinking it would be a good idea to put a custom Rom on both of their phones. I used to have a rooted HTC droid Eris and Motorola Droid Global. So I have somewhat of an idea of what I'm doing. The only problem is I want to make sure that these roms will work on their phones.
Also, extremely dumb question since everyone will say something different but what is the best stable ROM out there for reliability? I remember HTC sense being ultra easy to use with the stock overlay of just clicking phone at the bottom etc.
Thanks,
Chris
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No. The Razr Maxx HD is the same as the Razr HD, which was released in Oct 2012.
The droid razr maxx (the one you mentioned in you post) uses the same roms as the droid razr, both phones were released in 2010/2011 time frame I think.
-- Dan
The Razr and Razr HD also run different processors. Like Dan said, they ROMs aren't interchangeable. Also, you cannot unlock the bootloader on the Razr, so you'll need to use SafeStrap to flash ROMs. For more info, I would go over to the Razr forums.