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[Q] Motorola RAZR or Galaxy Nexus?

As the title suggests, which would you get if they were similarly priced? I can't really decide cos I want some features from each...
RAZR - Aluminium body and Kevlar back, really sturdy construction
Nexus - Curved HD screen, better GPU (by how much I don't really know)
I'm a fairly heavy user, currently on the Desire Z. Locally, the GN is not even released yet but will be in a few weeks, while the RAZR is already available.
I believe the RAZR is already rooted, which means development should be picking up, and the GN development is already gaining momentum.
The only thing I worry is that the RAZR might not be that popular with devs and the custom ROMs would be lacklustre. I don't have that worry with the GN cos well it's a Nexus.

Of course that galaxy nexus.
It has ics/gorilla glass/4.65" screen and a lot more..

And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.

G'day,
Im in the exact same situation. My DHD stopped working recently and i need a new phone. I was originally going to create the thread u just made XD.
Personally im going with the razr for several reasons.
The razr has a much better design, also, not that it really makes a difference but the razr has a larger memory capacity at 40/48gbs including a 32gb micro sd.
Also the razr has a much better battery life, from what i have heard. However i do see your point with the devs, but do u really need a custom rom for this? I dont see the point personally (at the moment). Motorolla have included some pretty handy apps like MotoCast + the smart actions ect and as i said this phone already does have root. You proabably know this but, ICS is coming to the RAZR and soon. I really dont mind waiting, simply because this phone is quite a bit faster and looks much better TBH. Also the speaker of the Razr is much better if u care
The Nexus only has a better screen over the Razr.
But the choice is yours You probably already know all this but i need to get my posts up
Best of luck!

ArmedandDangerous said:
And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.
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LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Livewings said:
LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~

Razr for sure!

ArmedandDangerous said:
Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~
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Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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snapper915 said:
Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.

lowandbehold said:
The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.
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True but that's the thing. My friends Droid X is overclocked. Lol. And i play with kernels a lil bit but i mostly just use incredikernels. Which I will probally go with the nexus for the reasons u listed above but the razr is a sweet device.
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Looks as though we might get JB after all.

According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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could be possible but we will be waiting awhile we havnt evn
got official ics yet which should be released soon as we are
already in the third quater

Fall of Enosis said:
According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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I've given up all hopeful ambition, until I actually see ICS or JB, I will be swillin' beers and learnin' Linux like a college kid...

That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Fall of Enosis said:
That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Well, I would consider it more a "gettin' ready for the glory hole" plan, so as to be of some contributor-level support on what everyone is waiting so anxiously for (ICS/JB for the ATRIX 2); and beyond that, this has become an enormous interest for me, as I am sure is the same for many others, and just want to get at the heart of it with full fervor... but, nonetheless, I know where our limitations are, what our capabilities are possible of, and know that we (the A2 community) can seriously tear this phone a new one when all put our heads together! In the meantime, I shall be immersing myself in getting "me smarts on" as some kid in college said to me, who probably now works for the city's sanitation department!

That article is just speculation. With the atrix hd coming out i highly doubt we will get jb officially. Once we have official ics the devs will be able to work up something for us.
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It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.

motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like thery did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean
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Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
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mtnlion said:
Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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+1 to that. I'm done with Moto for good. Unless they make a Nexus phone...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...
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The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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tmease1 said:
I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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Bump.... For sure last moto, unless they change policy.
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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smgulsby said:
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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Lol...no. Don't kid yourself.

kc92iyngr said:
It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.
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True, and the reasons for JB denial on SGS2
dual core(min quad required??)
low resolution(min hd 1280x720)
I guess a2 has similar config, and also likely to miss the JB upgrade

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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Not all OG atrix ....some r still in plans of evaluation and planing.....nd i think some has even been rejected for ics......anyways OG ATRIX WAS A FLAGSHIP OF its time i read Engadget article how AT&T introduce new phone to market posted here by Dev Jim ....... The reason they r updating it to ICS IS due to its flagship status .....while Atrix 2 is not a hit or flagship device........nd now since they release ATRIX HD Like defy plus......the chances has became slim ....anyways ur right with moto for excellent phone.......its the only reason i got this phone after using defy for a year....

This will be my last Android let alone Moto!

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We should consult Oracle (from matrix) bootloader UNLOCKING :laugh:
or hire Neo

Need a second android phone

Greetings all,
Just got an S3. Getting to know it and like it a lot.
I need a second android phone for my business line. Considered the Google Nexus but heard mixed reviews. Any ideas?
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Motorola Droid Razr Max HD

HTC One X would be a good choice!
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I'd get the razor Maxx
Gs3

Never thought I'd say this but since it is for a business line I say go with anything from the Motorola Droid RAZR line.The signal quality on those are superb and since its business I'm sure that's most important.
I would've recommended the Galaxy Nexus but I use to have a huge struggle with maintaining signal. I went through 5 gnex until they offered to give me a gs3 and I took it. I know plenty of people that use to have the issue didn't have it anymore once they flashed those recent jelly bean radios but there were also some like myself that still had the problem.
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xvitality said:
HTC One X would be a good choice!
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No offense to you personally, but I couldn't see getting an Android phone whose multitasking has been crippled, with a unibody design that makes battery replacement difficult and no SD card slot.
I'd still get it above an iPhone because it's essentially been whittled down to iPhone limitations with the size and OS we expect from contemporary Android phones, but within the Android product lines it's not something I'd seek out above others. If their JB update fixes the multitasking limitations, I could more easily see it as a second phone, though.
If I needed a second phone that wasn't necessarily in the GS3 class and dev wasn't an immediate goal, I might try out the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
My $0.02.
- ooofest

RAZR maxx or if you waited the RAZR maxx hd

Should I trade for a Droid Razr HD?

Straight trade. I need opinions by the morning.
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i would never do that.

Hold onto your S3 , I honestly think you'd be losing out on this one
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Thanks guys, that's how I was feeling too.

The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.

I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2

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The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.
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Not even the Note 2?
DertyDOH said:
I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2
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Have you tried any custom roms?
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Locked bootloaders suck!

For a non max hd? Never. For a razr hd maxx. Yes
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I'd probably do it for the maxx if development picks up.
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If you were to, then definitely go w/ the MAXX. I personally wouldn't trade at all. Best Android on the market based on size and feel.

I'd definitely stick with the S3.
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GS3 or GN2, anything else is a downgrade!

Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!

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Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!
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Yeah, I had the atrix and atrix 2 over on at&t (Atrices?) and the locked bootloader always pissed me off. That's what I love about Samsung, there will never not be a new rom to try.
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I'm with the others, certainly wouldn't do a straight trade.

A HD MAXX probably but not the HD. The camera is pretty bad though.
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syoungblood95 said:
Not even the Note 2?
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No I have small hands and that home button is terrible.
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i have both in my hands right now....traded my galaxy nexus for the razr HD...i love the build quality of the razr, battery life and the motorola radios..however it lacks the developer support that the s3 has...only a few roms out there....both feel about as fluid and fast as the other...so the main question is are you a crackflasher or not.....thats what it boils down to me....plus the amount of accessories for the s3 compared to the razr

The battery isn't a problem for the GS3 because of the fact you can put in a new battery or extended. The Razr line does have nice build quality but ugly design. To me, I think Samsung does a better job with their software and the camera is a lot better vs Motorola. I haven't notice any worst when it comes to wireless radio going from a Maxx to a GS3. The Wi-Fi is better on my GS3. Even though the newer Motorola phones have that "stock Android" look & feel it doesn't feel optimized yet. It lags from time to time. And the Samsung development is way better. The developers have done awesome work and pretty much negated the locked boot loader. Motorola's development is a joke. There's no reason to get a Motorola phone any time soon in my opinion. They haven't stepped anything up in the last few years except for battery life.

ROMs for Thunderbolt

It seems to me like development for the Thunderbolt has almost completely died out. I am strongly considering moving on to something else with an ARM processor and a good battery. If we were given a stable Jelly Bean ROM, then I would have stuck with it longer. The only thing even close is a meshed together 4.0.1 that is still broken in some ways. Is there anything better in your opinion than Jelly Bean with more features and options? What else would you like to say? Thanks!

Due to the fact that I am a Verizon customer w/a tenuous grip on unlimited data and bored w/the non-ICS/Jelly Bean-havin' Bolt, just bought a Samsung Nexus on eBay. Move on, dude, move on.

I have been eyeing the MOTOROLA DROID RAZER MAXX HD. The extra battery life would be wonderful. I will never buy another damn thing from HTC. I don't want to be put on the back burner for Jelly Bean 4.2 or Key Lime Pie. Do you think it will be Déjà vu all over again? Extra long delays or never showing up at all. I think I might be better off choosing a MOTOROLA device now that Google owns them.

Geek_Jed said:
I have been eyeing the MOTOROLA DROID RAZER MAXX HD. The extra battery life would be wonderful. I will never buy another damn thing from HTC. I don't want to be put on the back burner for Jelly Bean 4.2 or Key Lime Pie. Do you think it will be Déjà vu all over again? Extra long delays or never showing up at all. I think I might be better off choosing a MOTOROLA device now that Google owns them.
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Remember locked boot loader unless you get the developer one.
I still love my droidx.. oh they have a workaround for the boot loader but you loose a core (duel core goes to single core)
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Doesn't matter which manufacturer, any device will be extremely lucky to upgrade more than once, if at all.They want you to keep buying the newest thing.
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But the phone manufacturer that updates the most-often, customers will recognize that. Well some customers, anyway.
Not to hijack but what about the Droid X boot loader? You mean X2 since you said the workaround takes a core? And I guess it doesn't apply to the OG Droid X?
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Dude...JB was just released in July...chillax. In the meantime, try checking out twistedumbrella's ICS roms. He's on 4.0.4 now.

NotAnIphone said:
try checking out twistedumbrella's ICS roms. He's on 4.0.4 now.
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I second this. He's continually improving it, although a few people have had bootloops on more recent versions.

Kooomar said:
I second this. He's continually improving it, although a few people have had bootloops on more recent versions.
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Santod's UnSensed ICS over on Infected Rom Forums is pretty awesome too. Feels a lot like Twisted's build in many ways, except that there are Sense apps here and there for functionality and the video camera works.
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