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[Q] What will your next device be?

Hey guys,
As we all probably know, most of us are not happy with motorola's product the XT720 and some of us are stuck with it just because we paid so much for the phone. The locked bootloader and poor support are just a few reasons to hate moto.
I'm interested in knowing what your next device would most probably be when eventually you want to move on and ditch motorola. For me it'd most likely be either a google product or something from the samsung range. Unlocked boatloaders, great support and constant updates + powerful hardware. Please enlighten me!

too early for me to say for sure as i dont have plans to get anything new anytime soon, but: 1: not motorola 2: probably either a SE device as i love how they look and they seem sincere in their support for their devices or a nexus line. all subject to change of course

In October, I can get me a new mobile (I can extend my contract). If nothing better comes in, then I will choose one of the following devices:
-Motorola Atrix
-Motorola Milestone 3
-HP Pre 3 (yeah, WebOS fascinates me )

Vistaus said:
In October, I can get me a new mobile (I can extend my contract). If nothing better comes in, then I will choose one of the following devices:
-Motorola Atrix
-Motorola Milestone 3
-HP Pre 3 (yeah, WebOS fascinates me )
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Booo motorola . Good devices though.
While we're considering other OSs I'm intrigued by the Nokia WP7 device. WP7 actually looks very attractive, smooth and fluid - I just worry I would get bored of it after a little bit to be honest. WebOS has some nice features but I'm concerned about lack of apps and support for it and also it doesn't look as attractive as Android or WP7 to me.

I will get soon Samsung vibrant I will NEVER buy Motorola again.
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mchlbenner said:
I will get soon Samsung vibrant I will NEVER buy Motorola again.
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xt720 out performs vibrant. ive ran the paces on them both. Cinci bell just got the HTC panache which is basically a mytouch 4g, so thats what im gettin next when ever i quite havin car problems and can buy a new phone.

first of all, No More Motocraper unless it comes with unlocked bootloader
love the XT720's cool look design but hate the moto
next would be Samsung galaxy II or
HTC scorpian
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Samsung or HTC for me. Unless moto phones will be shipped with unlocked bootloaders.
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SGS2 for me.. keeping my hands off from HTC till they fix the deathgrip issue, and also their recent flip-flopping on signed bootloaders makes me think thrice..

HP Palm still pre not very stable...
Motorola Atrix? Afaik there is already speeches about it's glass e.t.c, but battery power 1960mAh..
MS3? When it will be...
For me: new nexus from google... maybe.
As i can say: NO, NO,NO to htc and moto.
Everyone else.. maybe..

My contract is also expiring next month, so I'm looking for new handset already. So, what's in my mind???
1. Motorola Atrix
Ya, most of you will said no more Motocrap. I always like Moto's hardware quality. So, if and only if they unlock the bootloader and it is possible to install custom roms like CM7, then I would take it. (There is already a leaked rom with unlocked bootloader. Everything is working except it's just not official update)
2. LG Optimus Black
This slim and shady guy is very slim and light-weighted. And truly it is a hacker's phone. Nothing is locked down. opened booloader, open NAND, now CM7 is already on the way to this phone. The problem is, LG's hardware quality is crap. And I also have doubt that this one would qualify.
3. Samsung Galaxy S II
Like it very very much. It has been a dreamed phone for me recently. But it's a bit pricy. S$348 with 2 years contract @ Starhub. Unless they give me a $200 discount voucher, I won't buy this phone.
4. Google Nexus S
If the 3 above is not applicable, this guy will be mine. No SD slot but 16Gb of NAND drive is more than enough for me. Though one this is still bugging me, no HDMI output. hmmm
guys, let me hear your suggestion. which one shall I take?

Just checked out the ATRIX. Wow, lol I want one. Its uncanny how even after the XT720 motorola continues to seduce me...haha

Well I got the XT720 because of the Xenon flash.
Not many phones out there with a Xenon.. may have to switch to another OS whilst I wait for an Android device with Xenon.

Definitely iPhone
Hey please don't kill me. Haha JK
It should be definitely next Google Nexus phone. Yes Google Nexus is win!

The G3
Probably the Samsung Galaxy II
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varem said:
The G3
Probably the Samsung Galaxy II
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Haha yes it could be.
But seriously I don't want to see N3 manufactured by Samsung!

jackfrost3821 said:
Haha yes it could be.
But seriously I don't want to see N3 manufactured by Samsung!
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A lot of rumors said that next Nexus hardware will be provided by LG. Featuring a next generation (Cortex A9???) 1.5 GHz processor. The name will be Nexus Prime.

Nokia with window phone 7 ^^
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spiderx_mm said:
My contract is also expiring next month, so I'm looking for new handset already. So, what's in my mind???
1. Motorola Atrix
Ya, most of you will said no more Motocrap. I always like Moto's hardware quality. So, if and only if they unlock the bootloader and it is possible to install custom roms like CM7, then I would take it. (There is already a leaked rom with unlocked bootloader. Everything is working except it's just not official update)
2. LG Optimus Black
This slim and shady guy is very slim and light-weighted. And truly it is a hacker's phone. Nothing is locked down. opened booloader, open NAND, now CM7 is already on the way to this phone. The problem is, LG's hardware quality is crap. And I also have doubt that this one would qualify.
3. Samsung Galaxy S II
Like it very very much. It has been a dreamed phone for me recently. But it's a bit pricy. S$348 with 2 years contract @ Starhub. Unless they give me a $200 discount voucher, I won't buy this phone.
4. Google Nexus S
If the 3 above is not applicable, this guy will be mine. No SD slot but 16Gb of NAND drive is more than enough for me. Though one this is still bugging me, no HDMI output. hmmm
guys, let me hear your suggestion. which one shall I take?
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if you like the galaxy s2 so much, you could always cross the border and buy it there, its only RM2099 (around SGD854) compared to SGD998, or wait for the cheaper galaxy Z (Tegra2/SLCD/5mp)..
Optimus Black and Nexus S is not in the same league as Atrix and SGS2, so those should not be compared directly..

syrenz said:
Booo motorola . Good devices though.
While we're considering other OSs I'm intrigued by the Nokia WP7 device. WP7 actually looks very attractive, smooth and fluid - I just worry I would get bored of it after a little bit to be honest. WebOS has some nice features but I'm concerned about lack of apps and support for it and also it doesn't look as attractive as Android or WP7 to me.
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The app cataloque on WebOS has about 4600 apps at the moment including Angry Birds. So yeah, not as much as Android yet, but it's definetly a lot and it will get more once the HP Touchpad comes out later this month
And lack of support? WebOS get updates every 6 weeks or so and upgrades when an upgrade is ready (most of the time, that is).

[Q] Motorola RAZR or Galaxy Nexus?

As the title suggests, which would you get if they were similarly priced? I can't really decide cos I want some features from each...
RAZR - Aluminium body and Kevlar back, really sturdy construction
Nexus - Curved HD screen, better GPU (by how much I don't really know)
I'm a fairly heavy user, currently on the Desire Z. Locally, the GN is not even released yet but will be in a few weeks, while the RAZR is already available.
I believe the RAZR is already rooted, which means development should be picking up, and the GN development is already gaining momentum.
The only thing I worry is that the RAZR might not be that popular with devs and the custom ROMs would be lacklustre. I don't have that worry with the GN cos well it's a Nexus.

Of course that galaxy nexus.
It has ics/gorilla glass/4.65" screen and a lot more..

And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.

G'day,
Im in the exact same situation. My DHD stopped working recently and i need a new phone. I was originally going to create the thread u just made XD.
Personally im going with the razr for several reasons.
The razr has a much better design, also, not that it really makes a difference but the razr has a larger memory capacity at 40/48gbs including a 32gb micro sd.
Also the razr has a much better battery life, from what i have heard. However i do see your point with the devs, but do u really need a custom rom for this? I dont see the point personally (at the moment). Motorolla have included some pretty handy apps like MotoCast + the smart actions ect and as i said this phone already does have root. You proabably know this but, ICS is coming to the RAZR and soon. I really dont mind waiting, simply because this phone is quite a bit faster and looks much better TBH. Also the speaker of the Razr is much better if u care
The Nexus only has a better screen over the Razr.
But the choice is yours You probably already know all this but i need to get my posts up
Best of luck!

ArmedandDangerous said:
And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.
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LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Livewings said:
LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~

Razr for sure!

ArmedandDangerous said:
Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~
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Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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snapper915 said:
Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.

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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.
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True but that's the thing. My friends Droid X is overclocked. Lol. And i play with kernels a lil bit but i mostly just use incredikernels. Which I will probally go with the nexus for the reasons u listed above but the razr is a sweet device.
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Anyone not even gonna bother when the completed ICS comes out?

I love the ICS leak SO MUCH. It's amazing. It's fast. It's smooth. And, best of all... it's nearly stock!
That's why I'm gonna stick with the leak even after the full release comes out. Because the full release is bound to have more blur, maybe the Moto flip-up icons, and probably some of those Moto widgets I'd never want.
So unless the completed ICS release has some MAJOR bug fixes (which I doubt, since I've seen zero bugs and performance is great), I see no reason to upgrade. I'm so happy with the leak.
Anyone else feel the same way? Or is there some major feature still missing from the leak that people are gonna want?

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I love the ICS leak SO MUCH. It's amazing. It's fast. It's smooth. And, best of all... it's nearly stock!
That's why I'm gonna stick with the leak even after the full release comes out. Because the full release is bound to have more blur, maybe the Moto flip-up icons, and probably some of those Moto widgets I'd never want.
So unless the completed ICS release has some MAJOR bug fixes (which I doubt, since I've seen zero bugs and performance is great), I see no reason to upgrade. I'm so happy with the leak.
Anyone else feel the same way? Or is there some major feature still missing from the leak that people are gonna want?
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Though, I can tell your enthusiasm in regards to the "leaked" and unofficial release of 4.0.04, I think it would be foolish of you to not take the OTA once it has been released to us.
Furthermore, since the leak is unofficial release, there still begs the questions as to why some are on 1.2GHz ad others on the 'stock' 1GHz, plus the other bugs noted in the [BUGS] thread.
Now, you may not have noticed any of the issues listed in the thread, but in being on a leaked version of ICS you will receive NO support, and likely the work of our amazing devs will be working off the official ICS version with their roms once released.
Just my two bits...

I absolutely love this ics leak on my phone, have absolutely no problems whatsoever . Only reason I may switch to the official release is the potential of upgrading to jellybean... but honestly I may move to verizon and get the DROID RAZR HD sometime in September or October. So who knows if I'll even make it that far with the ATRIX 2 lol
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Apex_Strider said:
Though, I can tell your enthusiasm in regards to the "leaked" and unofficial release of 4.0.04, I think it would be foolish of you to not take the OTA once it has been released to us.
Furthermore, since the leak is unofficial release, there still begs the questions as to why some are on 1.2GHz ad others on the 'stock' 1GHz, plus the other bugs noted in the [BUGS] thread.
Now, you may not have noticed any of the issues listed in the thread, but in being on a leaked version of ICS you will receive NO support, and likely the work of our amazing devs will be working off the official ICS version with their roms once released.
Just my two bits...
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Its funny you bring up how some caught the 1.2MHz and others got just 1MHz. Before I bricked my first I know 100% fact was clocking at 1.2MHz in fact, I posted a Screenshot of my results on benchmark. Now this replacement is at 1. Dont know if its the ROM or what but thia what I got now.
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I'll stick to the SCV7 rom until I see what the actual release looks like.

No doubt in my mind going official..... Fairly sure it will be even more stable than the leak..... Small things do need to get fine tuned might not be bugs but do affect performance..... Imho leak is awesome now.....

If I were on the ICS leak I would definitely update to the official OTA when ICS comes out. The ICS leak right now does have some peculiarities that need to be addressed. Also, I'm 90% sure that the official OTA is going to be just as blurred as the leak is. If you plan on flashing any ROMs based off of stock ICS then you should definitely be on the official OTA beforehand.
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I absolutely love this ics leak on my phone, have absolutely no problems whatsoever . Only reason I may switch to the official release is the potential of upgrading to jellybean... but honestly I may move to verizon and get the DROID RAZR HD sometime in September or October. So who knows if I'll even make it that far with the ATRIX 2 lol
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Why the Razr HD? AT&T essentially has a Razr HD... take a look at the Atrix HD. But remember that the Razr HD and the Atrix HD will both be very locked down, just like the A2... the Atrix HD doesn't even have root yet. Just FYI, a new Nexus phone is always announced around that time of year... .

cogeary said:
If I were on the ICS leak I would definitely update to the official OTA when ICS comes out. The ICS leak right now does have some peculiarities that need to be addressed. Also, I'm 90% sure that the official OTA is going to be just as blurred as the leak is. If you plan on flashing any ROMs based off of stock ICS then you should definitely be on the official OTA beforehand.
Why the Razr HD? AT&T essentially has a Razr HD... take a look at the Atrix HD. But remember that the Razr HD and the Atrix HD will both be very locked down, just like the A2... the Atrix HD doesn't even have root yet. Just FYI, a new Nexus phone is always announced around that time of year... .
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I didn't think the Nexus devices were compatible with AT&T baseband...
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Apex_Strider said:
I didn't think the Nexus devices were compatible with AT&T baseband...
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Sure they are . The GSM GNex works fine on AT&T, TMobile, etc.

cogeary said:
Sure they are . The GSM GNex works fine on AT&T, TMobile, etc.
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Shows how much I know -or rather don't...
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The same thing happened with the DROID Bionic ICS leaks (1Ghz or 1.2Ghz - I'm at 1.2Ghz), and the general consensus is that there is some type of stress test that determines whether you get the 200Mhz bump or not.

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Shows how much I know -or rather don't...
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Dude why do you think I switched? It has a carrier-unlocked pentaband radio that works with virtually any GSM or HSDPA+ network. I'm still under contract to AT&T and was tired of the A2's dev limitations due to the locked bootloader, having previously come from a Samsung phone (I still have the A2 anyways as a beater). Spend the paltry $350 if you can do it, because it's the best value smartphone currently out for the price, 4.1 Jellybean lives up to the hype in every way, direct updates from Google certainly doesn't hurt, and it has the biggest and best Android dev community hands down. After owning this phone I will never purchase another phone that isn't a carrier-unlocked Nexus, to put it simply. And that's fine because my phone is still guaranteed for at least the next 2 major updates even if I don't decide to buy the new Nexus that will inevitably drop in November. Carrier and manufacturer freedom is a fantastic combination.
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Call me greedy, but I'd rather have an unlocked bootloader so we can run Cyanogenmod. That's where it's at.

cogeary said:
If I were on the ICS leak I would definitely update to the official OTA when ICS comes out. The ICS leak right now does have some peculiarities that need to be addressed. Also, I'm 90% sure that the official OTA is going to be just as blurred as the leak is. If you plan on flashing any ROMs based off of stock ICS then you should definitely be on the official OTA beforehand.
Why the Razr HD? AT&T essentially has a Razr HD... take a look at the Atrix HD. But remember that the Razr HD and the Atrix HD will both be very locked down, just like the A2... the Atrix HD doesn't even have root yet. Just FYI, a new Nexus phone is always announced around that time of year... .
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The ATRIX HD has an 1800 mah battery
The RAZR HD will have a 2500 mah battery
More importantly though I'm really unhappy with at&t service, reception is always very crappy anywhere I go around here, But my Xyboard tablet with Verizon always has full bars!!
I'm OK with having the devices locked down, because I absolutely love motorola products!!!
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big ach said:
I'm OK with having the devices locked down, because I absolutely love motorola products!!!
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Tell the truth, you just made $10 for saying that didn't you? :laugh:

41rw4lk said:
Tell the truth, you just made $10 for saying that didn't you? :laugh:
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Loll noooo.... seriously, I genuinely love the company... when I was in undergrad I even did an internship with one of their subsidiaries over seas. I'm back in grad school now, but when I finish I'm truly thinking of changing careers and applying for a job with them.
You guys wouldn't believe the amount of motorola devices I've gone through, the original Motorola Q is still my favorite device ever!
All my mobile tech gear at the moment is motorola, my phone, tablet, Bluetooth headset, stereo Bluetooth headset for working out, hands free car kit speaker is all Motorola! If they made a pc/laptop, I would buy it lol (lapdock doesn't count )
I know we all like to complain about some of their annoying policies like the locked boot loader, etc... hell I bricked my Xyboard and had to mail it to them (and the customer service was awesome) but the quality of their hardware is almost in a league of their own!
Yeah I'm a bit obsessive but I have very strong feelings about this company lol
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big ach said:
Loll noooo.... seriously, I genuinely love the company... when I was in undergrad I even did an internship with one of their subsidiaries over seas. I'm back in grad school now, but when I finish I'm truly thinking of changing careers and applying for a job with them.
You guys wouldn't believe the amount of motorola devices I've gone through, the original Motorola Q is still my favorite device ever!
All my mobile tech gear at the moment is motorola, my phone, tablet, Bluetooth headset, stereo Bluetooth headset for working out, hands free car kit speaker is all Motorola! If they made a pc/laptop, I would buy it lol (lapdock doesn't count )
I know we all like to complain about some of their annoying policies like the locked boot loader, etc... hell I bricked my Xyboard and had to mail it to them (and the customer service was awesome) but the quality of their hardware is almost in a league of their own!
Yeah I'm a bit obsessive but I have very strong feelings about this company lol
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You sir are CRAZY... LOL
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StrizzMatik said:
Dude why do you think I switched? It has a carrier-unlocked pentaband radio that works with virtually any GSM or HSDPA+ network. I'm still under contract to AT&T and was tired of the A2's dev limitations due to the locked bootloader, having previously come from a Samsung phone (I still have the A2 anyways as a beater). Spend the paltry $350 if you can do it, because it's the best value smartphone currently out for the price, 4.1 Jellybean lives up to the hype in every way, direct updates from Google certainly doesn't hurt, and it has the biggest and best Android dev community hands down. After owning this phone I will never purchase another phone that isn't a carrier-unlocked Nexus, to put it simply. And that's fine because my phone is still guaranteed for at least the next 2 major updates even if I don't decide to buy the new Nexus that will inevitably drop in November. Carrier and manufacturer freedom is a fantastic combination.
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Well, I am so happy for you that you switched (sense the sarcasm here?) but I have to call you out on one thing. You comment about the devs "limitations" and being tired of that, well, I must say you've just had the cross hairs put over your forehead with that statement. Tell me where else you can find the talent, experience, and devotion to a device and community than right here? Sure, any mildly intelligent person who can fog up a mirror can mod/theme/rom for any device with full unlocked provisions, but to discount the abilities of those who have done what they have for this phone in spite of a locked bootloader is just insulting. Maybe I'm getting defensive here, and I don't really care if I am. Even if that wasn't you're implication, might be nice to have some decency about you and respect for the devs here with the caveat of "regardless of the limitations, the devs still have made some amazing breakthroughs, but I just wanted more" or something along that line. Not by saying that 'I'm so tired of these guys not being able to do anything with the A2'. Furthermore, this thread isn't a "look how awesome I am because I have a better phone than anyone else" thread...
Oh, by the way, did you ever get your MMS working on that Nexus? For me, and my A2, we still get picture messages from girls wanting to show us their melons.

farshad525hou said:
You sir are CRAZY... LOL
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Dude, I'm not even going to deny it lol
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[Q] HD/HD MAXX ROMs incoming...?

Hi folks, contract up in January, I'm after a phone with good hardware and long battery life that I can flash to 4.1 vanilla.
Any news on roms in the works for HD and HD MAXX?
I noted there was a 4.1 leak, can anyone confirm if this is vanilla android?

Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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Deus_eps_machina said:
There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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The recovery is only confirmed to work on the XT925... All Verizon phones are locked (aside from the developer edition.)
And about the ROMs, yes, they will come... Give it some time.

afmracer6 said:
Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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This. Also besides the usual Verizon bloat this phone is pretty darn vanilla. When roms do start flowing I'll be happy with a jb debloated Rom.
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theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion

Check hascodes tweets. He could release safestrap 3 now if people wanted... ROM flashing isn't working right yet apparently but you can still back up apparently.
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DertyDOH said:
theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion
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Hopefully development kicks start soon.
I agree.... sub forum for development.
Everything else should stay the same.
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Can someone confirm for me how many different types of the HD are around. 925 and 926 in the US, is the International version (I'm in Australia) with an unlocked boot loader the same as your developer edition or is it another version?
I'm trying to decide between a razr HD or a nexus, but don't want to get stuck on old software again.
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Rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/36022-rom-vitreous-10-11082012-jelly-bean-41-42/

I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.

Teejai80 said:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.
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I made the call to purchase an HD Maxx via Swappa to replace my GNex. Post Jellybean Gnex battery life has dropped to ~6hrs, so battery life became #1 priority for me. However, since I bought the phone at retail price and not through any subsidized plan, I did not sign a new contract. This preserves my unlimited data, and allows me to jump to another carrier if I wish . . . I believe my contract end date is sometime in December.
With the Gnex, Verizon screwed up in such an epic fashion that I was ready to jump ship as soon as the Nexus 4 launched. But its battery being only 2100mah, nonremovable, and wildly varying numbers for battery life as well as its paltry internal storage really put me off.
Still might sell off the Gnex and HD Maxx in a few months . . . a 32GB/64GB Nexus 4 would really help that decision.

ROMs for Thunderbolt

It seems to me like development for the Thunderbolt has almost completely died out. I am strongly considering moving on to something else with an ARM processor and a good battery. If we were given a stable Jelly Bean ROM, then I would have stuck with it longer. The only thing even close is a meshed together 4.0.1 that is still broken in some ways. Is there anything better in your opinion than Jelly Bean with more features and options? What else would you like to say? Thanks!

Due to the fact that I am a Verizon customer w/a tenuous grip on unlimited data and bored w/the non-ICS/Jelly Bean-havin' Bolt, just bought a Samsung Nexus on eBay. Move on, dude, move on.

I have been eyeing the MOTOROLA DROID RAZER MAXX HD. The extra battery life would be wonderful. I will never buy another damn thing from HTC. I don't want to be put on the back burner for Jelly Bean 4.2 or Key Lime Pie. Do you think it will be Déjà vu all over again? Extra long delays or never showing up at all. I think I might be better off choosing a MOTOROLA device now that Google owns them.

Geek_Jed said:
I have been eyeing the MOTOROLA DROID RAZER MAXX HD. The extra battery life would be wonderful. I will never buy another damn thing from HTC. I don't want to be put on the back burner for Jelly Bean 4.2 or Key Lime Pie. Do you think it will be Déjà vu all over again? Extra long delays or never showing up at all. I think I might be better off choosing a MOTOROLA device now that Google owns them.
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Remember locked boot loader unless you get the developer one.
I still love my droidx.. oh they have a workaround for the boot loader but you loose a core (duel core goes to single core)
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Doesn't matter which manufacturer, any device will be extremely lucky to upgrade more than once, if at all.They want you to keep buying the newest thing.
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But the phone manufacturer that updates the most-often, customers will recognize that. Well some customers, anyway.
Not to hijack but what about the Droid X boot loader? You mean X2 since you said the workaround takes a core? And I guess it doesn't apply to the OG Droid X?
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Dude...JB was just released in July...chillax. In the meantime, try checking out twistedumbrella's ICS roms. He's on 4.0.4 now.

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try checking out twistedumbrella's ICS roms. He's on 4.0.4 now.
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I second this. He's continually improving it, although a few people have had bootloops on more recent versions.

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I second this. He's continually improving it, although a few people have had bootloops on more recent versions.
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Santod's UnSensed ICS over on Infected Rom Forums is pretty awesome too. Feels a lot like Twisted's build in many ways, except that there are Sense apps here and there for functionality and the video camera works.
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