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[Q] Motorola RAZR or Galaxy Nexus?

As the title suggests, which would you get if they were similarly priced? I can't really decide cos I want some features from each...
RAZR - Aluminium body and Kevlar back, really sturdy construction
Nexus - Curved HD screen, better GPU (by how much I don't really know)
I'm a fairly heavy user, currently on the Desire Z. Locally, the GN is not even released yet but will be in a few weeks, while the RAZR is already available.
I believe the RAZR is already rooted, which means development should be picking up, and the GN development is already gaining momentum.
The only thing I worry is that the RAZR might not be that popular with devs and the custom ROMs would be lacklustre. I don't have that worry with the GN cos well it's a Nexus.

Of course that galaxy nexus.
It has ics/gorilla glass/4.65" screen and a lot more..

And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.

G'day,
Im in the exact same situation. My DHD stopped working recently and i need a new phone. I was originally going to create the thread u just made XD.
Personally im going with the razr for several reasons.
The razr has a much better design, also, not that it really makes a difference but the razr has a larger memory capacity at 40/48gbs including a 32gb micro sd.
Also the razr has a much better battery life, from what i have heard. However i do see your point with the devs, but do u really need a custom rom for this? I dont see the point personally (at the moment). Motorolla have included some pretty handy apps like MotoCast + the smart actions ect and as i said this phone already does have root. You proabably know this but, ICS is coming to the RAZR and soon. I really dont mind waiting, simply because this phone is quite a bit faster and looks much better TBH. Also the speaker of the Razr is much better if u care
The Nexus only has a better screen over the Razr.
But the choice is yours You probably already know all this but i need to get my posts up
Best of luck!

ArmedandDangerous said:
And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.
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LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Livewings said:
LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~

Razr for sure!

ArmedandDangerous said:
Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~
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Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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snapper915 said:
Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.

lowandbehold said:
The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.
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True but that's the thing. My friends Droid X is overclocked. Lol. And i play with kernels a lil bit but i mostly just use incredikernels. Which I will probally go with the nexus for the reasons u listed above but the razr is a sweet device.
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Looks as though we might get JB after all.

According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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could be possible but we will be waiting awhile we havnt evn
got official ics yet which should be released soon as we are
already in the third quater

Fall of Enosis said:
According to this article I found we are one of the FEW moto phones to get JB.
How dependable is it? Heck if I know. I'd just like ICS at this point...
http://androidrays.com/206/which-smart-phones-will-get-jelly-bean-update-complete-list/
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I've given up all hopeful ambition, until I actually see ICS or JB, I will be swillin' beers and learnin' Linux like a college kid...

That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Fall of Enosis said:
That sounds like an amazing plan of attack apex.
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Well, I would consider it more a "gettin' ready for the glory hole" plan, so as to be of some contributor-level support on what everyone is waiting so anxiously for (ICS/JB for the ATRIX 2); and beyond that, this has become an enormous interest for me, as I am sure is the same for many others, and just want to get at the heart of it with full fervor... but, nonetheless, I know where our limitations are, what our capabilities are possible of, and know that we (the A2 community) can seriously tear this phone a new one when all put our heads together! In the meantime, I shall be immersing myself in getting "me smarts on" as some kid in college said to me, who probably now works for the city's sanitation department!

That article is just speculation. With the atrix hd coming out i highly doubt we will get jb officially. Once we have official ics the devs will be able to work up something for us.
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It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.

motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like thery did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean
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Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

mtnlion said:
Once again this is probably my last motorola phone. I don't care about factory updates if its unlocked and I can throw cm on it.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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+1 to that. I'm done with Moto for good. Unless they make a Nexus phone...

GaganPla said:
motorola has history of upgrading phone to only one update like they did with defy ....came with 2.1 ....they release 2.2 ...though its totally capable of running 2.3 they never released 2.3 instead they released defy plus with 2.3.3 so its same with atrix 2 ...now they released atrix hd with ics ...... only razr ,razr maxx nd atrix hd from motorola will get jellybean ...
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The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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tmease1 said:
I agree. My wife started out with a backflip and now she has the original atrix and they are stable for her because she don't care about modding. Myself on the other hand bought the a2 because of motorolas products being stable and I thought we would have the bootloader unlocked by now. This will be my last motorola phone for sure because of the bootloader issue. The a2 is a good phone but Im just getting bored to easy with it.
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Bump.... For sure last moto, unless they change policy.
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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smgulsby said:
ARE YOU LISTENING MOTOROLA!
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Lol...no. Don't kid yourself.

kc92iyngr said:
It's confirmed that sgs 2 isn't getting jelly bean update. Hence I doubt Atrix getting it. And reading the source its just their guess and not confirmation from motor. Let's get the official ics first and then hope for jb.
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True, and the reasons for JB denial on SGS2
dual core(min quad required??)
low resolution(min hd 1280x720)
I guess a2 has similar config, and also likely to miss the JB upgrade

JRW 28 said:
The OG ATRIX came with froyo, got the GB update and is scheduled to get ICS. I wouldn't say that this phone WON'T get JB but by the time it does I will be long gone and into another phone.
The ONLY way I buy another MOTO phone is if they make the next Nexus.
Moto makes some excellent phones and I would recommend them to anyone who simply wants a phone and doesn't like modding things. But since we are all on this great site, that rules us out and unfortunately Moto thinks we are the minority and they do not care about us.
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Not all OG atrix ....some r still in plans of evaluation and planing.....nd i think some has even been rejected for ics......anyways OG ATRIX WAS A FLAGSHIP OF its time i read Engadget article how AT&T introduce new phone to market posted here by Dev Jim ....... The reason they r updating it to ICS IS due to its flagship status .....while Atrix 2 is not a hit or flagship device........nd now since they release ATRIX HD Like defy plus......the chances has became slim ....anyways ur right with moto for excellent phone.......its the only reason i got this phone after using defy for a year....

This will be my last Android let alone Moto!

other way
We should consult Oracle (from matrix) bootloader UNLOCKING :laugh:
or hire Neo

[Q] Razr HD Dev Edition or Razr Maxx HD

Thinking of taking the plunge to the Razr HD but not sure what to get. Would you get the RAZR HD Dev edition or the Maxx? I will be paying outright to keep my unlim data with Verizon. The unlocked edition is tempting to mod it but so is the extended battery life of the Maxx. I'm a fairly heavy user coming from the Galaxy Nexus that wasn't cutting it in the battery department.

I was torn with the decision too (coming from a Thunderbolt), but ultimately I went with the Razr Maxx HD. I am confident enough that with fastboot and kexec (once a Razr HD hack is available), that needing an officially unlocked bootloader is not required to satisfy my power-user needs.
Loving the Maxx thus far. Rooted it within the first 10-minutes of powering it up. It just "feels" like a good phone. Great build quality (doesn't feel cheap/plasticy like Samsung phones) and the weight isn't much different than my T-Bolt. And I am really looking forward to experiencing what multi-day battery life feels like. I rocked the Rezound battery in my Thunderbolt, and for the phone got good battery life, but I would never go overnight without charging since it would be at 20-30 by the time I would head to bed.
Looking forward to what the dev community has in store for this phone!

I just bit the bullet and paid for the dev... although the above poster is accurate I just like knowing that my device will be unlocked from day 1... the battery is still miles above older phones.
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GoClifGo05 said:
I just bit the bullet and paid for the dev... although the above poster is accurate I just like knowing that my device will be unlocked from day 1... the battery is still miles above older phones.
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Before u unlock the phone plz get with some super devs maybe u guys can figure this out for the rest of us please
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I am in no way a developer but if I can help one out you bet I will.
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[Q] HD/HD MAXX ROMs incoming...?

Hi folks, contract up in January, I'm after a phone with good hardware and long battery life that I can flash to 4.1 vanilla.
Any news on roms in the works for HD and HD MAXX?
I noted there was a 4.1 leak, can anyone confirm if this is vanilla android?

Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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Deus_eps_machina said:
There is a recovery now. Check the Dev forum. But I'm personally waiting for some stock jellybean ROMs before i unlock my bootloader. To be quite honest though this could be the perfect AOSP device for anyone who prefers all of what the SGS3 has to offer but hates its build quality. But because its development is so close to the Nexus 4's release i fear we won't get much interest in this device because this baby would fly with JB.
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The recovery is only confirmed to work on the XT925... All Verizon phones are locked (aside from the developer edition.)
And about the ROMs, yes, they will come... Give it some time.

afmracer6 said:
Its vanilla Motorola blur. There is dev support for the HD. there is no recovery for the HD yet. The phone has been out for two weeks. Roms will come
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This. Also besides the usual Verizon bloat this phone is pretty darn vanilla. When roms do start flowing I'll be happy with a jb debloated Rom.
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theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion

Check hascodes tweets. He could release safestrap 3 now if people wanted... ROM flashing isn't working right yet apparently but you can still back up apparently.
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DertyDOH said:
theres that one rom Vitreous on rootzwiki so it is starting up without a custom recovery, and I'm sure one will come. But I think they're should be a subforum to separate the gsm and vzw versions to avoid confusion
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Hopefully development kicks start soon.
I agree.... sub forum for development.
Everything else should stay the same.
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Can someone confirm for me how many different types of the HD are around. 925 and 926 in the US, is the International version (I'm in Australia) with an unlocked boot loader the same as your developer edition or is it another version?
I'm trying to decide between a razr HD or a nexus, but don't want to get stuck on old software again.
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Rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/36022-rom-vitreous-10-11082012-jelly-bean-41-42/

I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.

Teejai80 said:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 and all its ROMS are slightly broken sue to Samsung not supply documentation or support for some chips. (I get 1-2 RIL crashes a day still)
What is the moto hardware like? Is there good support and can we expect something like a CM10-11 stable? I'm just trying to decide between a Nexus 4 with up to date software or a Razr HD with the bigger battery.
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I made the call to purchase an HD Maxx via Swappa to replace my GNex. Post Jellybean Gnex battery life has dropped to ~6hrs, so battery life became #1 priority for me. However, since I bought the phone at retail price and not through any subsidized plan, I did not sign a new contract. This preserves my unlimited data, and allows me to jump to another carrier if I wish . . . I believe my contract end date is sometime in December.
With the Gnex, Verizon screwed up in such an epic fashion that I was ready to jump ship as soon as the Nexus 4 launched. But its battery being only 2100mah, nonremovable, and wildly varying numbers for battery life as well as its paltry internal storage really put me off.
Still might sell off the Gnex and HD Maxx in a few months . . . a 32GB/64GB Nexus 4 would really help that decision.

[Q] Is this the end for rooting Droid Razrs?

I've owned a Droid Razr Maxx (gave it to my son, who still loves it), a Droid Razr Maxx HD (bootloader unlocked) and a second Maxx HD (running 9.18.79 unfortunately but I got a good deal on it second-hand). All are on Verizon as I'm one of five on a family plan. I've rooted all of them, I unlocked the bootloader on the 9.16.6, I'm run different custom ROMs on the 9.16.6 and I'm running a stock-based custom ROM on the 9.18.79.
I'm not smart enough to write code or be a developer but I love being able to control my phones, root them, flash custom ROMs, install custom themes, change launchers, etc etc. In fact, I probably enjoy messing with rooting and ROMs and stuff more than actually using the phones. Its just interesting.
Every thing I'm reading now says that the days of exploits and unlocking and maybe even rooting may be ending. It seems that every update and every new phone that Verizon releases is locked down tighter than the one before. I assume this terrible trend will carry over to the new Droids that Verizon will release later this month.
At first I thought OK fine, I'll just grab a few bootloader-unlocked Razr Maxx HDs and be happy with that for a while. But then I realized that a shrinking pool of mod-able phones will mean less future work being done by devs, which will mean fewer new custom ROMs and cool new features. So, and here's the big question for me -- WHERE WILL THE MOST ROBUST CUSTOM WORK ON VERIZON PHONES BE? It's just not practical right now for me to change carriers or go to prepaid so I'm stuck with Verizon (I like Verizon mostly but evidently they're dicks about locking down their phones). Will developers move from Motorola Droid phones to HTC phones or some other manufacturer or will the assault on "open" phones apply to all new Verizon phones?

The Verizon HTC One isn't even out yet and it has root and a custom recovery. The bootloader is easily unlocked from HTCDev.
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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mentose457 said:
I suspect the Moto X will be rooted but I doubt the bootloader will get unlocked, ever.
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I hope your wrong. I'm hoping with all the different variations of the moto x available on other carriers there will be a crack somewhere.
I can live without root, but it's much more preferred.
Currently I'm running cm10.2 on my ATRIX HD MAXX. she'll be my backup in case I Bork my X.
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The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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deeje00 said:
The X is unlockable unless you get the att or Verizon version.
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Good news. The link for those interested... http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/02/moto-x-bootloader-developer-edition/
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