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Google to take on Apple iPhone with new Samsung Nexus Prime
Google and Samsung have announced that they will reveal "what’s new from Android" on 11 October. Sources inside the companies confirmed that the event will see the launch of a major new product, heavily rumoured to be the Samsung Nexus Prime.
The new handset that will run Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version of the operating system.
The San Diego event will be the first time Google has launched an operating system that runs on both tablets and phones, and takes place the week after Apple is set to announce its latest iPhone in California.
Rumours about the prime’s specifications suggest it will feature a dual-core processor, a large 4.5? screen and 4G capabilities for countries where they are available. Speculation has also suggested that the event will include a new tablet, or at least an update for the software currently running on existing Samsung tablets.
Google has been keen to emphasise that, despite continued wrangles over patent law, it is continuing to launch new hardware and software. A spokesman said that “Microsoft are resorting to legal measures to extort profit from others’ achievements and hinder the pace of innovation. We remain focused on building new technology and supporting Android partners.”
The search giant believes new hardware and new announcements with manufacturers will convince the industry that it will not be cowed by legal action.
- Matt Warman
http://www.independent.ie/business/...one-with-new-samsung-nexus-prime-2892728.html
The new handset that will run Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version of the operating system.
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so if this is to be believed ICS is the finished article already,i was under the impression it would be nearer the end of the year before we would see ICS, and the 2.3.5 leaked update has only appeared on here
I still say this..If android had the quality of apps that iphone has forget about the iphone all together...Android for me is tops and my galaxy s2 i love it to death...i am sure we are going to get the update of ICS and im sure Gadget or any other dev will port it to us once released....
I am waiting for the s3 to come out next year and im sure that will be one of the best phones when its released..For the time being as long as devs support our handset no need to change it...
and figure it out bud. apple knows that android is growing day by day month by month..so they try and bully the way to get competition out...great post and i am sure you will get many opinions in here
Yeah i doubt ill be changing my phone until next year at the very least i only have the GS2 under 4 months anyway.
I'm surprised though that a leaked version of ICS had not been posted on here when according to this article it will be on this new phone which will be launched on October 11th in 10 days time.
jonny68 said:
Yeah i doubt ill be changing my phone until next year at the very least i only have the GS2 under 4 months anyway.
I'm surprised though that a leaked version of ICS had not been posted on here when according to this article it will be on this new phone which will be launched on October 11th in 10 days time.
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It's a google device, they always get them first. If we're lucky and ICS source is released to Samsung et all on Oct 11th then we might have a leak come November. God knows when an official build will go out.
Hollow.Droid said:
It's a google device, they always get them first. If we're lucky and ICS source is released to Samsung et all on Oct 11th then we might have a leak come November. God knows when an official build will go out.
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agree totally to that. hopefully by Nov we should have a leaked rom..hopefully that is
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...torola-pipeline-arent-wow-by-google-standards
Android 5.0 "Liquorice" this Fall ?
Basically Google is saying Motorola is not up to snuff quite yet, to start producing brand new phones for them, they still have work and development ahead of them, before they are ready. Several months at very earliest. This new rumors / news, pointing towards end of year release time frame.
And this has the tech world buzzing, that "rumor" maybe Android 5.0 is not going to be released this Summer right after Google I/O like rumored. And that this Motorola - X phone, rumored for a June / July release, is now due for a Nov / Dec release, which is the typically Nexus phone time of year.
And that come this Fall, we will see this Motorola Nexus-X phone in Nov/Dec, running Android 5.0 "Liquorice". And what we may get after Google I/O this May, is Android 4.3 "Key Lime Pie" in the Summer ?
Typically Google releases brand new OS numbers in the Fall, with a brand new Nexus phone, and that Summer is just a point release usually, so maybe we are getting 4.3 after Google I/O, and whole new 5.0 this Fall, with the next Nexus ? Because I find it hard to believe that Google will have a new LG Nexus-Five for sale this Summer per some rumors, they have never done that before.
Talks about 5.0 not being ready for Google IO'13 had been around for quite a while, I think there's something to it.
However that begs the question of what they have in store for 5.0, has to be kinda big, and will 4.3 just be a polish?
That wouldn't be very IO worthy...
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This has always puzzled me since I switched over to Android 5 months ago. I noticed that most carriers don't push the latest update for months to come, if ever in some cases. For example, my SGS4 ATT hasn't been officially updated to 4.3 yet, but 4.4 is being released soon. Its not like as soon as 4.4 is released, everyone can update to it, like iOS. My question is, why is this? What's the point in Android releasing another major update when the majority of non-rooted phones aren't even running their latest update?
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It's not googles fault the oems can't keep up. Google even gave them the tools they needed to port software to newer versions of Android. If google took longer to release, that's longer oems would take
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I think a big part of it is that Google knows that the people with the know-how will go get 4.4 themselves and start testing/coming up with fixes for bugs and such. Yes, we all do it for advanced features/rooting, but at the same time Google can go look at bug fixes online just like the rest of us can
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This has always puzzled me since I switched over to Android 5 months ago. I noticed that most carriers don't push the latest update for months to come, if ever in some cases. For example, my SGS4 ATT hasn't been officially updated to 4.3 yet, but 4.4 is being released soon. Its not like as soon as 4.4 is released, everyone can update to it, like iOS. My question is, why is this? What's the point in Android releasing another major update when the majority of non-rooted phones aren't even running their latest update?
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Simple, most updates are minor and bit by bit remove the "Open" source features of AOSP.
Next android version will include the ability to have custom Messenger app that can recieve SMS. Google will probably replace it with a propietary version that integrates with g+ and other services and end up not support AOSP version. Its only natural because propietary software earns alot more money and google can earn money both from ads and its services.
Yes, android as we know it is being left to die by google.
Also, the thing others said here are correct, OEMs do not have the interest to update or support a device for more than one year, thats their cycle. This adds to android version fragmentation.
Its the same reason there are over 30% of devices still using gingerbread 2.3
Android devices are usually advertised heavily, distributed, supported for 1 year, and abandoned. This goes mostly for midrange devices. Flagships might get special treatment-
Low end devices are never updated to rarely if never updated to new versions. Of course, this policy might differ based on OEM.
LG uisually releases 1 update and thats it. Samsung does 2-3 updates for higher end devices. Dunno about HTC or Sony, but they should be the same.
it may be availble for all device
as far as i know google is planing to bring all android phones under one roof with same os.. they had worked on pusing updates through playstore .. so we may see soon that we are getting our os upgrades directly from playstore
Pipo
Keep an close eye on official release& waiting!
Thank goodness for developers who take the updates and then make far better roms than the carriers could ever do.. These updates are more for the artists that make the art that is the rom, or am I wrong?
M919 running Virgin GP ed. ROM
I think for the moment the answer is you simply don't need 4.4.
If you have 4.1 and up your phone will support all the new apps coming with 4.4, in fact they're already available...
We won't see universal Play Store upgrading for the foreseeable future, because remember, Google wouldn't want the hassle of handling hardware support for every single phone out there, they have enough on their plate with their Nexus line.
The road taken, if you will, probably is for the best, where Google develop their services independently of the platform as much as possible.
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This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months. Just around the time the update was first rumored, heartbleed was found, and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare. What do you think?
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nikeman513 said:
This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months. Just around the time the update was first rumored, heartbleed was found, and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare. What do you think?
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Nope. It's easy enough for them to fix.
4.4.2 was not affected by heartbleed. And Sprint announced the release date of 4.4.3 after heartbleed was announced publicly. So, no, I don't think it has anything to do with it. For all we know, 4.4.3 is right on schedule.
nikeman513 said:
This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months.. ..and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare.
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just like every other update. and it going past all rumored dates.. again, just like every other update. rumors are rumors, nothing else. they arent based on anything factual, just what people THINK will happen. only google knows when the update will come, no one else.
Should Be FedEx to XDA soon...
galaxys said:
Should Be FedEx to XDA soon...
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I prefer amazon drone.
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google updated openssl on the 9th -
http://http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/04/google-services-updated-to-address.html
yet again, -
"Android
All versions of Android are immune to CVE-2014-0160 (with the limited exception of Android 4.1.1; patching information for Android 4.1.1 is being distributed to Android partners)."
android is, linux at it's *heart* afterall, lol
I dont think we will see 4.4.3 soon...i think they release it close to their I/O and then wait for 4.5/5.0 version!!!
lol.. that's my prediction also..
way too much time has passed for a measly 4.4.3 bump, to think or expect that this far in the timeline, is sleeping on google's development team;
i think their working in over drive, to bring a 4.5 to fruition for the nexus 5, not to supersede a 5.0 i/o, & nexus 6,
THEN bring the 5.0 update to the nexus 5 afterwards..
Motorola confirms that it will not commit to monthly security patches
Motorola says it is "more efficient" to bundle security updates into fewer releases.
RON AMADEO - 7/26/2016, 2:24 PM
Motorola has clarified the update situation of the Moto Z and Moto G4, calling Android's monthly security updates "difficult" and deciding not to commit to them.
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For the future of security updates at the Lenovo-owned Motorola, we look to the 2015 Moto X, which has been receiving Android security updates about once a quarter instead of monthly. The Moto X spent the last few months on the "February" Android security patch and only this month was updated to "May."
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The MXPE has been a great device, but this issue is why I won't get another Moto phone. I got this device, expecting timely updates, shortly after Nexus devices. But we've seen far from that. So next phone, will be a Nexus for sure, for me.
My Moto 360 2nd Gen also gets updates slow. My LG G Watch R is current, and got a July Android Wear update last night. While my Moto 360 2nd Gen is stuck in May.
Moto feels it's more "efficient" for me to be vulnerable for some months. I don't find that to be acceptable.
ok peace ill stick with my pure .
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Motorola confirms that it will not commit to monthly security patches
The MXPE has been a great device, but this issue is why I won't get another Moto phone. I got this device, expecting timely updates, shortly after Nexus devices. But we've seen far from that. So next phone, will be a Nexus for sure, for me.
My Moto 360 2nd Gen also gets updates slow. My LG G Watch R is current, and got a July Android Wear update last night. While my Moto 360 2nd Gen is stuck in May.
Moto feels it's more "efficient" for me to be vulnerable for some months. I don't find that to be acceptable.
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Yeah that is kind of bull**** to be honest. I agree, the speed of the Nexus update is fantastic and certainly a huge draw towards those products. Motorola has more or less been a let down with this product in a lot of areas.
dewoine said:
ok peace ill stick with my pure .
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That is some fantastic input you have there.
dewoine said:
ok peace ill stick with my pure .
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I agree with him because I do like my phone. Yes, would be nice to have updates but every phone has had this issue and Moto/Lenovo is no different.
I been using phone since the HTC hero so I been around the custom rom for a very long time and because of them every phone has performed better than stock. Now, pure stock is nice but I wanted to try a custom rom and the one I am currently using rocks.
Security updates make me laugh. Buying an other phone for that even more. My Clark is a great phone and I don't really mind being few months behind with security updates. Can someone tell me, how many of you had any problems because late security updates? No BS, please.
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So they just didn't commit to the monthly plan but rather on a quarterly basis. Sounds like they will still work on updates on a somewhat regular basis. It does make sense. They have migrated to the near vanilla experience which means a necessity for fewer programmers. This means the performance to dollar value will remain since it ultimately costs less to produce and maintain the product lines. Win in my opinion.
Edvin73 said:
Security updates make me laugh. Buying an other phone for that even more. My Clark is a great phone and I don't really mind being few months behind with security updates. Can someone tell me, how many of you had any problems because late security updates? No BS, please.
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For me, the idea is to avoid ever having a problem, because of a late security update. Not waiting to be burned and then looking to stay current.
To each their own. I don't mock anyone's opinion.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
For me, the idea is to avoid ever having a problem, because of a late security update. Not waiting to be burned and then looking to stay current.
To each their own. I don't mock anyone's opinion.
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If you feel these updates are critical to you, I highly recommend Nexus phones as they will almost always be the first to get any updates. Updates were not a big factor into buying this phone but rather the cost to spec value. I do think Lenovo could do better with updates but I have the phone so I will do my best to enjoy it. Nexus line will probably be my next phone since they are starting to get better with having more up to date specs.
TBH... These Android security updates that are JUST security updates, probably are not important or relevant to 99.99999% of users. I read a blog article recently by an Android "security specialist" (take it with a grain of salt), that your chances of being affected by most of these security flaws that the security patches fix in Android is about the same likelyhood as being struck by by lightning... while being bitten by a shark. Probably an exaggeration, but even so, the point was effectively made. The security patches are more about PR than technical need.
acejavelin said:
TBH... These Android security updates that are JUST security updates, probably are not important or relevant to 99.99999% of users. I read a blog article recently by an Android "security specialist" (take it with a grain of salt), that your chances of being affected by most of these security flaws that the security patches fix in Android is about the same likelyhood as being struck by by lightning... while being bitten by a shark. Probably an exaggeration, but even so, the point was effectively made. The security patches are more about PR than technical need.
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I think you are correct for the most part. Problems like the stagefright issue led to this. However, with android being the dominant smartphone ecosystem, the number of individuals targeting for exploits will be higher as the market continues to grow. Being Linux based helps but when talking about the masses, you have some really ignorant users out there. I say ignorant because some don't really think about being "smart" when it involves safe habits such as downloading from reputable sources and not browsing to those "specialty" sites.
Edvin73 said:
Security updates make me laugh. Buying an other phone for that even more. My Clark is a great phone and I don't really mind being few months behind with security updates. Can someone tell me, how many of you had any problems because late security updates? No BS, please.
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aybarrap1 said:
If you feel these updates are critical to you, I highly recommend Nexus phones as they will almost always be the first to get any updates. Updates were not a big factor into buying this phone but rather the cost to spec value. I do think Lenovo could do better with updates but I have the phone so I will do my best to enjoy it. Nexus line will probably be my next phone since they are starting to get better with having more up to date specs.
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You and I are basically thinking alike. Our "next" phone will be a Nexus. That's what I said in the OP. I never said I'm trashing my MXP today, no way. I really like it. I dropped it and have to send it to MotoCare for repair, but can't wait to get it back. I'm just saying, my "next" phone will be a Nexus. And I did expect more timely updates, from a device running a more vanilla brand of Android. Before the MXP, I had an HTC One M7 Google Edition, it would get very timely updates. So it has been something I became accustomed to and expected with a "Pure Edition" device. I really miss the Google Edition line.
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I think you are correct for the most part. Problems like the stagefright issue led to this. However, with android being the dominant smartphone ecosystem, the number of individuals targeting for exploits will be higher as the market continues to grow. Being Linux based helps but when talking about the masses, you have some really ignorant users out there. I say ignorant because some don't really think about being "smart" when it involves safe habits such as downloading from reputable sources and not browsing to those "specialty" sites.
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Was there ever a documented case where the stagefright vulnerability was ever exploited in the real world and not in a lab? I don't recall of any...
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Was there ever a documented case where the stagefright vulnerability was ever exploited in the real world and not in a lab? I don't recall of any...
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Never said there was a documented case. However the media created a frenzy around it which helped prompt the monthly security updates to help alleviate negative pr. Some people are not careful so doing the monthly updates may potentially help prevent any actual exploits from happening. Currently, in real life and real case scenarios, the great majority of negative security impacts on android users are due to stolen phones which do not have lock protection and remote wipe features activated and in place
I'd have to say the same. I'm expecting Moto will get around to the N update before abandoning the phone. But in another year I'll be seriously considering other brands. If Google ever rethinks their opinion on expandable memory, it would probably be a no-brainier for me.
Silarn said:
I'd have to say the same. I'm expecting Moto will get around to the N update before abandoning the phone. But in another year I'll be seriously considering other brands. If Google ever rethinks their opinion on expandable memory, it would probably be a no-brainier for me.
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That has been my biggest set back.
Honestly, it's very easy for Google do to monthly security updates, and it's good that they're being proactive about them after being dragged through the mud by Apple bandwagon sites and general media (along with those dubious "security research" firms) after Stagefright. They have nearly unlimited resources and get an astounding amount of advertising revenue from Android itself. But, it also helps that they created and maintain Android itself.
I do think they hurt smaller manufacturers by putting this expectation of monthly security updates in people's heads. Android manufacturers, with the exception of Samsung, usually are not flush with cash. Just recently, LG's mobile division lost over $100 million in 1 quarter alone. Unless you have a loyal fan base that looks forward to new devices year after year, like Apple and (again) Samsung, it's a difficult position to be in. I do think it's furthering Google's own agenda, however. They are very slowly herding people into the Nexus program and into the pure, ideal Google Android ecosystem. There's already a gulf in feature sets between pure AOSP and Google's AOSP-based Nexus apps; pure AOSP is looking extremely barebones these days as Google has basically abandoned the basic apps in Android (like the dialer/Phone app, for example - it got a visual overhaul, but no new features except on Nexus devices). I only have the Google dialer features on my MXPE because Google accidentally released a working version for non-Nexus devices. It's certainly not great for AOSP-based phones like the MXPE.
Eventually, though I think Google will keep Android open for the foreseeable future, I do believe they're working on a new Google-only mobile OS where they control both hardware and software elements (chip design to custom tailored, proprietary kernels and hardware drivers). I think Android served its purpose for Google: to become a dominant OS, a viable source of advertising revenue for the company, and a viable ecosystem and market for digital goods (Play Store). Those Google services and Play Store ecosystem can be implemented into any OS they create, just as it was recently made available to ChromeOS devices.
Anyway, at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself if any of the Android devices in your recent past were terrible or completely insecure. Because, I've seen people change opinions on good devices based solely on security updates, even though the devices in our pretty recent past didn't receive them. So, if you're afraid Android is insecure even though you've never experienced an attack, even with those older, "less secure" devices or now on a newer device without monthly security updates, why continue to use Android? Apple is still continuing its strategy of implementing security updates in OS updates, by the way. Those are not monthly.
Malware is still required to exploit many of these vulnerabilities, and I'd say the great majority do need root privileges to be most effective, which is why those elevation of privilege vulnerabilities need to be patched. Will security updates protect you from sketchy online behavior or being gullible (phishing emails, popups claiming you have a virus, etc)? Nope.
I'm fine with quarterly updates - 4 quarters, 4 "rollup" updates.
My reason for considering the Nexus is not because of security updates. I want it because it is vanilla android. I am pleased with the MXPE because it is pretty much the vanilla experience, buy with some extra features from Motorola that I actually find useful. There are only a couple of their implementations I don't use. I found LG want to bad with their stuff. To Mr Samsung is the worst for "features" as there are numerous ones, and they overload the phone with their apps, many of which do pretty much the same thing Google already does well. For my next phone Nexus is still a possibility, buy so is Motorola at the moment. Only time will tell.
Jason.DROID said:
... So, if you're afraid Android is insecure even though you've never experienced an attack, even with those older, "less secure" devices or now on a newer device without monthly security updates, why continue to use Android? Apple is still continuing its strategy of implementing security updates in OS updates, by the way. Those are not monthly.
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If security is the major concern, the better option is to go Nexus and get the monthly updates. That along with other best practices. And with those updates, may also come bug fixes. So more timely updates there. Then there are pluses such as the Google Fi option. And yes, some Google apps are only kept current for Nexus devices.