Google's CFO says Motorola's products aren't 'wow' by Google standards - General Topics

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...torola-pipeline-arent-wow-by-google-standards
Android 5.0 "Liquorice" this Fall ?
Basically Google is saying Motorola is not up to snuff quite yet, to start producing brand new phones for them, they still have work and development ahead of them, before they are ready. Several months at very earliest. This new rumors / news, pointing towards end of year release time frame.
And this has the tech world buzzing, that "rumor" maybe Android 5.0 is not going to be released this Summer right after Google I/O like rumored. And that this Motorola - X phone, rumored for a June / July release, is now due for a Nov / Dec release, which is the typically Nexus phone time of year.
And that come this Fall, we will see this Motorola Nexus-X phone in Nov/Dec, running Android 5.0 "Liquorice". And what we may get after Google I/O this May, is Android 4.3 "Key Lime Pie" in the Summer ?
Typically Google releases brand new OS numbers in the Fall, with a brand new Nexus phone, and that Summer is just a point release usually, so maybe we are getting 4.3 after Google I/O, and whole new 5.0 this Fall, with the next Nexus ? Because I find it hard to believe that Google will have a new LG Nexus-Five for sale this Summer per some rumors, they have never done that before.

Talks about 5.0 not being ready for Google IO'13 had been around for quite a while, I think there's something to it.
However that begs the question of what they have in store for 5.0, has to be kinda big, and will 4.3 just be a polish?
That wouldn't be very IO worthy...
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When do you think we will see the next Nexus Phone?

Hi everyone!
Currently I own a Galaxy S and am quite happy with it. The only thing I dont really like is Samsung's update speed. So I guess I'd like to get a Google phone next to get updates the fastest as possible, and as the new Nexus S is nearly the same as my galaxy it wont be an upgrade.
So when do you think Google will introduce the next Nexus phone? I guess 2.4 wont see one? Do you think in about halb a year? (As Nexus One and S are about half a year apart) Or do you think Google will stop the Nexus series as Android has a good market penetration already?
Kind regards,
Sascha
Maybe in 2012 (before the earth is destroyed.Many Chinese people are crazy about the year of 2012)
grosssa said:
(As Nexus One and S are about half a year apart)
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They're almost a year apart: January 5 and December 16. And next Android will be 3.0 most probably, not 2.4.
But I'm also curious about next Google phone. I want to buy a Nexus S, but there will be dual-core phones in 2011.
Ok maybe I confused german release date Nexus One with international release date of Nexus S. Then its a year
But I dont really know if Android 3.0 will be released for Smartphones too, the news sites report contrary statements in this matter. Anyway, there will be a new smartphone release and maybe a new Nexus The question is, when?

Are the "Nexus" brand phones always to be first with new updates ?

I always thought that the "nexus" brand phones, were designed to be the first Android phones to receive the big updates from Google ? But that doesn't seem to be true.
I am not too confident that the Nexus-S will be first in line to get the next big OS update. I see them coming out with a Nexus-3.0 being the first phone running "ice Cream" then later on down the road the Nexus-S will get that update, and then possibly the Nexus-One.
I thought Google was going to do it differently ? If there is a "nexus" brand phone, it should get the newest OS right away, that was the whole point of the phone. But the Nexus-S came out with 2.3, and all the Nexus-One owners just kept waiting and waiting, for a few months. That was not cool. I don't remember, but was the Nexus-One the first phone to get 2.2 Froyo before any other phone ?
The Nexus One didn't get the update until some of the major bugs we're ironed out. The Nexus One got Froyo first. The Nexus phones will always get the first updates but they may not get them at the same time. We don't know anything about the next Nexus but the other Nexus' will get whatever OS it comes with. Don't be so paranoid.
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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Darrien13 said:
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
We have no idea what will happen with the new Nexus phone. We don't know what version of Android it will run. We don't know when it will be released. We don't know when the other Nexus phones will get its version of Android. Extrapolating a pattern from a single point of reference is impossible (There are two Nexus phone, but only one release of an OS while there was a previous Nexus).
From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
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From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
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I've read all of those articles about the Pyramid and I don't believe them. 2.4 is still Gingerbread and will come to the Nexus S first. 3.0 is already out. Its called Honeycomb. We don't know anything about the Android iteration following it. It would make sense for the next Nexus phone to come out around the end of 2011, beginning of 2012 but that's all we can say for sure.
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I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
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Does it matter how long it takes? It got the 2.3 update and is one of the first devices with it. That's what should matter. People that are on the fritz about this is worrying too much.
Also, why are people asking "will this be the pattern for future Nexus devices?" The answer is obvious. No one knows until more Nexus devices are out.
the nexus one took a while, which sucked, but they had some delays with bugs and testing. the bottom line is, you will br worse off with any other android phone. so really you have no choice but to go with the nexus phones if you want the first updates. no manufacturer will ever be faster than google to update their device.
sometimes crap happens and they hit delays. software is a hard thing to get perfect. and hell 2.3 STILL has issues.
Thank God for the nexus is perfect for my inpatient self... cant wait for the next update already
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Google to take on Apple iPhone with new Samsung Nexus Prime

Google to take on Apple iPhone with new Samsung Nexus Prime
Google and Samsung have announced that they will reveal "what’s new from Android" on 11 October. Sources inside the companies confirmed that the event will see the launch of a major new product, heavily rumoured to be the Samsung Nexus Prime.
The new handset that will run Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version of the operating system.
The San Diego event will be the first time Google has launched an operating system that runs on both tablets and phones, and takes place the week after Apple is set to announce its latest iPhone in California.
Rumours about the prime’s specifications suggest it will feature a dual-core processor, a large 4.5? screen and 4G capabilities for countries where they are available. Speculation has also suggested that the event will include a new tablet, or at least an update for the software currently running on existing Samsung tablets.
Google has been keen to emphasise that, despite continued wrangles over patent law, it is continuing to launch new hardware and software. A spokesman said that “Microsoft are resorting to legal measures to extort profit from others’ achievements and hinder the pace of innovation. We remain focused on building new technology and supporting Android partners.”
The search giant believes new hardware and new announcements with manufacturers will convince the industry that it will not be cowed by legal action.
- Matt Warman
http://www.independent.ie/business/...one-with-new-samsung-nexus-prime-2892728.html
The new handset that will run Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version of the operating system.
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so if this is to be believed ICS is the finished article already,i was under the impression it would be nearer the end of the year before we would see ICS, and the 2.3.5 leaked update has only appeared on here
I still say this..If android had the quality of apps that iphone has forget about the iphone all together...Android for me is tops and my galaxy s2 i love it to death...i am sure we are going to get the update of ICS and im sure Gadget or any other dev will port it to us once released....
I am waiting for the s3 to come out next year and im sure that will be one of the best phones when its released..For the time being as long as devs support our handset no need to change it...
and figure it out bud. apple knows that android is growing day by day month by month..so they try and bully the way to get competition out...great post and i am sure you will get many opinions in here
Yeah i doubt ill be changing my phone until next year at the very least i only have the GS2 under 4 months anyway.
I'm surprised though that a leaked version of ICS had not been posted on here when according to this article it will be on this new phone which will be launched on October 11th in 10 days time.
jonny68 said:
Yeah i doubt ill be changing my phone until next year at the very least i only have the GS2 under 4 months anyway.
I'm surprised though that a leaked version of ICS had not been posted on here when according to this article it will be on this new phone which will be launched on October 11th in 10 days time.
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It's a google device, they always get them first. If we're lucky and ICS source is released to Samsung et all on Oct 11th then we might have a leak come November. God knows when an official build will go out.
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It's a google device, they always get them first. If we're lucky and ICS source is released to Samsung et all on Oct 11th then we might have a leak come November. God knows when an official build will go out.
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agree totally to that. hopefully by Nov we should have a leaked rom..hopefully that is

Sorry, Santa - Google Cancels December In Android 4.2

Go here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/17/sorry-santa-google-cancels-december-in-android-4-2/
How can Google do this?
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Well as the world is going to end in December anyway, Google officially decided to exclude December to prevent it happening...
Wow, surprised that wasn't caught during testing. Well at least since 4.2 is only on Nexus devices Google will be able to push out an update quickly.

Manufacturer with the best track record with Android updates?

Hi all,
I've been an Android user for about 4 years, and in that period I've had 4 phones (2 Moto, 1 Samsung and 1 Sony).
I understand the concept of programmed obsolescence, but this is ridiculous. My current phone, the Sony Xperia S, was released in Feb' 2012. Android 4.2 was released only 10 months later, but the Xperia S didn't get it. It should have been supported for 18 months, but Android 4.3 came out 15 months after it was released and it didn't get it either. Between the time I got the phone and a version of Android was out that it didn't get there were no more than a few weeks.
It was the exact same story with my Moto Milestones (1&2) and my Galaxy.
So even though I'm a big Android advocate, I'm really sick of this negligence. It's not that I always want the latest OS version for OCD reasons - I'm not an update freak or anything - but in each of those cases there were clear bugs or features that were simply left behind. I've had an iPad for a couple of years now and it's still getting updates and running anything from the Store - whereas my laggy Galaxy Tab 10.1 is left lying around most of the time, with a whole bunch of newer app versions that are "not compatible with your device". I don't want to switch to Apple for my phone, but my patience with these OS updates is running thin. I've tried custom ROMs with every one of my phones, but you really end up getting tired of the inevitable bugs and constant updating and flashing.
I was decided to get a Nexus 5, but then I read that the Nexus S did not get Android 4.2, which came out just 20 months after it was released. That's too little, considering most people buy their phones at least a few months after its release. That means that the average Nexus S buyer was only running the latest Android version for about a year - and it's a Nexus phone we're talking about here.
I know Google Play Edition phone makers commit themselves to updating their OSs for 18 months after they've been released. But I guess different manufacturers have different track records. I've looked around a little bit but I didn't find a thread that compiles that sort of information. I think this is a big deal and the Android user community should value OEMs that are careful about future-proofing their devices (even if "future" in this case means just a couple of years). But that's hard to keep track of, with so many models and manufacturers out there.
So I thought I'd ask everyone here how long they've owned their devices until it stopped receiving Android updates. Looking up release dates and last Android version isn't that useful because release dates & actual availability are 2 different things.
If I get enough data out of this I'll build a nice looking set of bar and pie charts with some sexy-ass bell curves to let people read this information and favor OEMs that are more careful about this.

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