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I challenge you Samsung

Well, I can't get my phone until friday due to some problem with att. For those of you who know fridays October first and unless samsung either comes out with a 2.2 update or an official release date by then as they previously stated they would im going to be joining the iphone crew. Cant stand this lack of support. At least with apple you know they support your device for 2-3 years. Or maybe ill just wait it out either to see what samsung does or for the white iphone.

ahh screw it

Wow... Lol.... Stfu!

I wouldn't hold your breath.
Anyway, I'd want them to figure out what the hell went wrong with the "minor" OTA that was bricking stock phones before pushing out a major update like Froyo.

S300M said:
Well, I can't get my phone until friday due to some problem with att. For those of you who know fridays October first and unless samsung either comes out with a 2.2 update or an official release date by then as they previously stated they would im going to be joining the iphone crew. Cant stand this lack of support. At least with apple you know they support your device for 2-3 years. Or maybe ill just wait it out either to see what samsung does or for the white iphone.
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You better buy that iPhone then.
Sasmsung announced 2.2 in September for the international Galaxy S NOT the captivate or any other US variant. They have clarified this a few times. Last week, they have announced that the 2.2 update for International Galaxy S is delayed until October.
I don't think they care about your ultimatum, but you should have the facts straight before making the threat.

Another useless thread.

I'll be darned - my Nook Color may get 2.2 before my Captivate!!!

... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad

Just got this text message from at&t anyone know what it might be? I plan to decline the update since I am on a custom rom.
AT&T FREE MSG: AT&T is providing a free update for your phone. When asked to install the update, please select OK. Thank You.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't quality testing for an E- reader be somewhat less extensive than it would be for a smartphone?
My guess is the Nook just needs to be able to run the OS and a few apps. The Captivate was past that stage months ago... probably before the phone was even released.

Crusty_Demons said:
Just got this text message from at&t anyone know what it might be? I plan to decline the update since I am on a custom rom.
AT&T FREE MSG: AT&T is providing a free update for your phone. When asked to install the update, please select OK. Thank You.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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That's just the old update. They've been spamming everyone with it for the most part.

Aquarianperry said:
... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad
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And my apple refuses to peel as easily as my orange. What's up with that?!

polarbee said:
And my apple refuses to peel as easily as my orange. What's up with that?!
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Yeah, weird, you should have a doctor look at that for you before it turns green and falls off...

Aquarianperry said:
... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad
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Great, now get your Nook to make calls and run apps and you're all set!!

My gripe is this, I got my Captivate July 14th from Best buy, this is now December 15th! Froyo was released in I believe May. Why Samsung didn't release all Galaxy S. phones with 2.2 is quite idiotic when I'm sure they had the 2.2 souce before May and could have put it on all models of the Galaxy S phones at launch or by the end of August at THE LATEST!!!
I got my Nook Color November 20th, and B&N has already committed to bringing out 2.2 by the end of January and 2.3 later next year. And this I can believe, before the nook color I had the original nook, they upgraded the firmware on that device at least half a dozen times in a years time. The most We've heard from samsung is delay after delay, when the phones were first show Samsung was stating the 2.2 release would be by August, then by the end of summer, then by mid november.... IT"S NOW MID DECEMBER - six months since the first Galaxy S phones were released and almost 8 months since froyo was released to manufacturers and no one still has a definate date.
Now some people will say "It's the carriers fault for the delay!!!" That's partially true, but you must remember Samsung supposedly released the code to the carriers at the end of September/mid October, whom in turn haven't even acknowledged that they have it nor given anyone a straight answer on a release date. But that's just two months out of six since Galazy S was released so you can't really blame the carriers fully about something that should have had 2.2 to begin with.
And as far as the people saying "The Nook Color is an ereader, Galaxy S is a phone!!! Beyond the GSM chip, the camera and bluetooth and their associated applications the underlying OS is the same - and it's not like B&N just threw stock vanilla Android on their device, they tweaked and overlayed the heck out of it, just like Samsung does with their phones. So why does it take Samsung almost half a year to release an upgrade for their phones while B&N can release an upgrade in two months?
So what were they doing all that time? I guess working on 2.3 to work with Nexus S - which is basically a Galaxy S phone with a different body, curved screen and an NFS chip thrown in. So what happens to all of the Galaxy S phones? IF Samsung is smart they will release 2.3 to all of the Galaxy S phones no later than March, there's no excuse not to especially when they just put out another Galaxy S clone with 2.3.

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...Beyond the GSM chip, the camera and bluetooth and their associated applications...
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I...don't even know where to begin. Doesn't matter anyway as you clearly just want to complain.

Yep, I'm venting, I love my Captivate for the hardware that's in it but right now it's like having a high speed sports car with only first and second gear. And as time goes on and the lack of initiative from Samsung and AT&T to try to keep this phone up to date makes me think I should have just jumped ship and looked at an HTC device. It's just mind boggling that a $250 non-contract device may get more updates than something that I paid $200 for WITH a 1-2 year contract which will total more than $1.5k when it's all said and done.
Of course I could just go and slap on a 2.2 ROM and be content and then wait for the dev's to put 2.3 out for it, but it shouldn't have to be that way, we shouldn't have to rely on dev's to cook them up for us when the average person with a Galaxy S phone has a 1-2 year contract on it.
With that much money going into the device over a 1-2 year span for the purchase of the device and service the phone should be guaranteed at least two major updates not just creak by with one whenever the manufacturers and carriers feel they should put effort into it.As much as I hate Apple that's one place where they got it right - making sure their iPhones are upgradeable for the life of a purchasers contract.

Dude, you shoulda got the Dell.. isn't the Aero still on Cupcake?

I had a Dell Aero V50 Windows mobile PDA once during my windows mobile heydays, took them forever to put out the update to windows mobile 5.0, great update but too late, by then I jumped ship to Windows Mobile Phone Samsung BlackJack, which Samsung at least put out the updates for everyone to grab offline and easily update their phones even though AT&T never put it out officially.
After that going thru three HTC window Mobile phones maybe I got spoiled, HTC was in the same boat Samsung is in now with makeing several variations of a phone (Tilt/Fuze/Tilt2) but didn't play with customers emotions they updated their phones, when one was able to update they were all able to be updated off of their site, and if you wanted you could wait for AT&T to bring out their watered down version but never anything like this.

What will the next "Nexus" phone be ?

I am a big fan of the "Nexus" brand myself, it feels like Google's version of the iPhone, in that there is no carrier bloatware, or brand name UI's, just the "pure" Android OS.
I have owned the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S, and liked both these phones a lot. Before that I had an iPhone3G, it was cool when it first came out, but now I just feel the iOS is dated, and not up to date with Android or WinMo7.
Just curious as to what the next "nexus" phone will be, and when it's due out ? I heard rumors it will be an HTC made phone, called the Nexus-Two, running the next generation Snapdragon processor, that is dual core 1.2ghz. Not sure if it will be a 2.4 Honeycomb phone, or the 3.0 Ice cream ?

It will probably be a tablet with honeycomb on it.

we just got the second incarnation can we not talk about this now
All i know is that people are going to ***** cuz it doesnt have NFC *rolls eyes*

That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.

My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
Zorachus said:
That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.
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It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.

Thanks for the info Yeah I heard "Honeycomb" comes out on the next gen tablets due out in Feb, and then will be brought to the phones in like May or so, to be released before iPhone 5.
The spy shots of that 10" Motorola tablet looks pretty sweet.

Motorola Nexus Tab Will be out early 2011 with Honeycomb.
As far as a phone goes? No one knows. And won't know til late 2011.

I think I read something recently where Google said the Nexus brand phones will not just be the annual Christmas release only. But that there will be a "nexus" device launched with every major OS update. And that the next Nexus device will be a Honeycomb tablet. And the next Nexus phone will be running Android 3.0 "ice cream"
Guess time will tell...for now I am very happy with my Nexus-S

Well it usually takes a year for them to release such a large incremental update.

slateac said:
My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.
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Gingerbread - 2.3
Honeycomb - 3.0 (for tablets and phones soon)
Ice Cream -3.5

The more important question is, how many desert names can they come up with to apply for the rest of the alphabet? And what happens after Z?

Z = Zingers an American Snack cake... as for after that, it is anyone's guess. Maybe fruit?

Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.

I can't wait for cookie dough.

Nexus is chosen from whomever sells the most Android phones. Nothing more.

The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.

Androyed said:
The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.
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Folks might complain about not having something to complain about, too.

leyvatron said:
Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.
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That's my guess as well. I see Google giving everyone a shot at the Nexus brand, in the spirit of openness. Not sure how the names will go, but it won't be held to Samsung/HTC, it'll go to whoever has the best to offer and can provide the best bang-for-buck.

Yeah I'm guessing Moto. Something doesn't feel right about them going back to HTC-- I doubt Google will want any speculation that there is a favored hardware developer. Google is juggling a ton of Android handset makers and will likely do everything to make sure they don't shift to WP7.
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Folks might complain about not having something to complain about, too.
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Seriously, I saw a couple of reviews of the Nexus S which had actually 'NFC isn't very useful yet' as a con! That's just stupid.
On topic: I really hope Sony Ericsson. I would never buy a 'normal' Android phone from SE, because of the drastically changed interface and the Xperia X10 with 2.1 not getting updates anymore, ever. But their phones are soooo sexy. Look at the upcoming Arc! Wow! If they co-operate with Google, the only thing SE will be the master of is the outside of the phone. Google determines the interface, the updates, if dual-core is needed, etc. etc.

ICS 4.0 Update Not Until April 2012?

http://www.themobileindian.com/news/3587_Android-4.0-update-to-come-in-April-2012:-Reports
As reports point out, the updates will arrive by 2nd quarter (beginning April) of 2012 and it is again going to be Samsung devices which will get these updates first. The official word from Samsung is that the six devices to get the update first will be Galaxy S II, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, Galaxy Tab 7.7, Galaxy Tab 8.9 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 and all of these devices except Galaxy Note (which is coming to India on 2nd November) are already available in India.
Samsung has also said that since it had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
HTC has also publicly announced the plans for the updates, but it is expected to be late to the party as their phones are heavily modified version of Android and therefore will take more time to include their Sense user interface into the new updates. It will be a more uphill task since some of the features that were available only through Sense UI are now part of Android 4.0 by default.
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Wow. That would be very upsetting if it took that long for an official ICS update.
And to think I actually left my device S-on and unrooted in hopes of getting this update before Christmas. Shame on me.
As soon as we get CM7 stable, I'm done with stock. Done with HTC Sense. Done with waiting for HTC and T-Mobile to get us updates (I know I'm late to the party )

Lol you thought we'd have an update this year, that's kind of funny dude. HTC is good with updates, but not that good. And I've been running cm7 since the cm team dropped it on September 11 and its very stable. Just because they call it an alpha doesn't mean it's buggy or laggy.I think it runs very well like the nightlies. But if I were you bud I'd s-off and root because when the galaxy nexus is released, Google will be releasing the source code for ICS and there will be ICS roms asap and cm9. Or just get the galaxy nexus like I'm planning on doing if you want ICS lol but seriously, you'll have ICS soon, it just won't be official.
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The moment ICS gets dumped on XDA, it's gonna be a race to see who mmcan get it stable first. A "friendly" competition, if you will. #yearightlol.
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I am confident that we'll have CM9 running on our phones long before HTC deigns to give us their Sensified interpretation of ICS.

I remember the Galaxy S situation last year......
Same phone as NEXUS S , but the updato to Gingerbread (released in mid dicember) is arrived in May

I'm probably not gonna wait around for HTC.
soon as stable ICS rom becomes available from our wonderful developers I'm upgrading.
lot of the Sense features are on ICS anyways.

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Lol you thought we'd have an update this year, that's kind of funny dude. HTC is good with updates, but not that good. And I've been running cm7 since the cm team dropped it on September 11 and its very stable. Just because they call it an alpha doesn't mean it's buggy or laggy.I think it runs very well like the nightlies. But if I were you bud I'd s-off and root because when the galaxy nexus is released, Google will be releasing the source code for ICS and there will be ICS roms asap and cm9. Or just get the galaxy nexus like I'm planning on doing if you want ICS lol but seriously, you'll have ICS soon, it just won't be official.
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How long does it take to turn source code into a stable ROM? I'm not a programmer or developer so I have no idea lol.
I'm gonna stick with my sensation, but I'm scared to unroot and flash haha.
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It will be a more uphill task since some of the features that were available only through Sense UI are now part of Android 4.0 by default.
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Interesting, that may cost HTC some sales if other phones will get similar features to Sense.

we will get offical ICS if apple devcies get iOS 6 !!
htc should just send ICS for sensation..then after 3 months bring Sense 4.0

Based on past experience, HTC won't release an update until a few months after a new flagship device shipped with a new Android version is launched.
So let's say HTC announce a ICS flagship device in late Dec or early Jan, which will be shipped earliest a month after that. Say early Feb. Add two months to it, April sounds plausible.
As soon as ICS source code is released, probably within days you will start seeing custom ICS roms popping up here. Most of which will be crappy and unstable (although everyone will claim "lighting fast! Super stable!" in their thread title). I would say a month after ICS source code being released, quality ROMs will start rolling out.

LPChris47 said:
http://www.themobileindian.com/news/3587_Android-4.0-update-to-come-in-April-2012:-Reports
Wow. That would be very upsetting if it took that long for an official ICS update.
And to think I actually left my device S-on and unrooted in hopes of getting this update before Christmas. Shame on me.
As soon as we get CM7 stable, I'm done with stock. Done with HTC Sense. Done with waiting for HTC and T-Mobile to get us updates (I know I'm late to the party )
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I hate the break the bad news to you, but the Sensation is now officially the "red headed step child" for both HTC and the carriers around the globe. It was intended to be the flagship Android device when it was released last June, but HORRIBLE quality control lead to massive shipments of faulty devices. HTC still won't admit the issue, although the carriers now openly mention it and will even offer you an LG or Samsung device as a replacement no matter how long you have had your Sensation. With the new Nexus device about to ship, and a handful of other ICS devices on the way, HTC is in a world of hurt. They didn't get awarded the contract for the Nexus phone and the Motorola/Google merger is going to crush their bottom line. Let's also not forget about the snooping software HTC "mistakenly" installed on this phone, which they have just started rolling out updates to remove. In summary, the Sensation was intended to be a market leader. Due to multiple internal/external issues at HTC that never happened, and now they (HTC) are trying to play catch up. The other issue is that HTC has newer phones on the market which have pushed the Sensation to the back of the line when it comes to upgrades. The Sensation is caught in the middle of the newer phones who are competing against the newest version of Android. Sure, ICS will likely come out for the Sensation by Spring/Summer, but at that point the phone will be a year old and nobody will care.....

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I hate the break the bad news to you, but the Sensation is now officially the "red headed step child" for both HTC and the carriers around the globe. It was intended to be the flagship Android device when it was released last June, but HORRIBLE quality control lead to massive shipments of faulty devices. HTC still won't admit the issue, although the carriers now openly mention it and will even offer you an LG or Samsung device as a replacement no matter how long you have had your Sensation. With the new Nexus device about to ship, and a handful of other ICS devices on the way, HTC is in a world of hurt. They didn't get awarded the contract for the Nexus phone and the Motorola/Google merger is going to crush their bottom line. Let's also not forget about the snooping software HTC "mistakenly" installed on this phone, which they have just started rolling out updates to remove. In summary, the Sensation was intended to be a market leader. Due to multiple internal/external issues at HTC that never happened, and now they (HTC) are trying to play catch up. The other issue is that HTC has newer phones on the market which have pushed the Sensation to the back of the line when it comes to upgrades. The Sensation is caught in the middle of the newer phones who are competing against the newest version of Android. Sure, ICS will likely come out for the Sensation by Spring/Summer, but at that point the phone will be a year old and nobody will care.....
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Thanks for your insight
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lol. nice thoughts! but for some years here in xda, whos still waiting for these "updates" when there are devs that surely be porting this as soon as source comes out? @[email protected]
and to add to that, haven't you learned that HTC is like a brick itself? like the unlocked bootloader they promised? so many people asking them about that and trying to tell them stuff, but they decided to play by their book and it just ended up xda devs coming up with a different way to unlock the bootloader. so, don't trust them, they put some crazy stuff on your phone and won't tell you that they bugged your phone for some unknown reason. thats why there's xda-developers

i dont think it will be that late ,january at the latest we should have something, beta, leak , CM8
Google I/O 2012 is on April 24 and i think they will launch another version of android then

i thought their said the that ics will come to others devices after 2 months its released! well i wont say nothing the fat lady aint sang yet

Im not really worried about the ICS update from HTC. I myself have been lucky and have had ZERO issues with my sensation, but as fast as the quality devs here can roll stuff out we will have 4.0 before too long, and this being a back of the line phone? i dont buy that. It can be considered an entry level dual core phone, but with the custom ROM's and mods available for this thing, it has the ability to blow more powerful phones off the chart.
I must admit im waiting for the Nexus Prime, but until then i'll enjoy the sensation, and probably always will.

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I hate the break the bad news to you, but the Sensation is now officially the "red headed step child" for both HTC and the carriers around the globe. It was intended to be the flagship Android device when it was released last June, but HORRIBLE quality control lead to massive shipments of faulty devices. HTC still won't admit the issue, although the carriers now openly mention it and will even offer you an LG or Samsung device as a replacement no matter how long you have had your Sensation. With the new Nexus device about to ship, and a handful of other ICS devices on the way, HTC is in a world of hurt. They didn't get awarded the contract for the Nexus phone and the Motorola/Google merger is going to crush their bottom line. Let's also not forget about the snooping software HTC "mistakenly" installed on this phone, which they have just started rolling out updates to remove. In summary, the Sensation was intended to be a market leader. Due to multiple internal/external issues at HTC that never happened, and now they (HTC) are trying to play catch up. The other issue is that HTC has newer phones on the market which have pushed the Sensation to the back of the line when it comes to upgrades. The Sensation is caught in the middle of the newer phones who are competing against the newest version of Android. Sure, ICS will likely come out for the Sensation by Spring/Summer, but at that point the phone will be a year old and nobody will care.....
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do you have some kind of source for these claims? I've not heard a peep about this stuff from other users here or any news sites.

They didn't say anything about releasing the source in july right? Hopefully it releases the same time as Galaxy Nexus. I don't see why I would want an OTA when there's a CM9

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do you have some kind of source for these claims? I've not heard a peep about this stuff from other users here or any news sites.
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http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/google-to-buy-motorola-mobility/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114612
I could provide you countless other links, but in this case Google truly is your friend!

If I'm not mistaken we would have to wait for HTC to release the source for an Android 4.0 compatible kernel to be able to run CM9 on Sensation. Or maybe the devs can patch together an Android 2.x kernel for compatibility? I'm no programmer so I'm not sure what I just said makes any sense... but apache (provides the CM7 kernel for Sensation) said that they based their kernel on source code from HTC, I guess due to the aSMP CPU in Sensation.

Google's CFO says Motorola's products aren't 'wow' by Google standards

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...torola-pipeline-arent-wow-by-google-standards
Android 5.0 "Liquorice" this Fall ?
Basically Google is saying Motorola is not up to snuff quite yet, to start producing brand new phones for them, they still have work and development ahead of them, before they are ready. Several months at very earliest. This new rumors / news, pointing towards end of year release time frame.
And this has the tech world buzzing, that "rumor" maybe Android 5.0 is not going to be released this Summer right after Google I/O like rumored. And that this Motorola - X phone, rumored for a June / July release, is now due for a Nov / Dec release, which is the typically Nexus phone time of year.
And that come this Fall, we will see this Motorola Nexus-X phone in Nov/Dec, running Android 5.0 "Liquorice". And what we may get after Google I/O this May, is Android 4.3 "Key Lime Pie" in the Summer ?
Typically Google releases brand new OS numbers in the Fall, with a brand new Nexus phone, and that Summer is just a point release usually, so maybe we are getting 4.3 after Google I/O, and whole new 5.0 this Fall, with the next Nexus ? Because I find it hard to believe that Google will have a new LG Nexus-Five for sale this Summer per some rumors, they have never done that before.

Talks about 5.0 not being ready for Google IO'13 had been around for quite a while, I think there's something to it.
However that begs the question of what they have in store for 5.0, has to be kinda big, and will 4.3 just be a polish?
That wouldn't be very IO worthy...
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