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http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
We've seen a lot of Q's about the Froyo update; it's currently in development & will be released for all networks at the end of September...
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Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October of next year for ATT i'm betting
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There, I fixed it for you.
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http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
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My money's on mid December for ATT if it is released in September
But in all seriousness, just look at this as a prime example.
AT&T Tilt was released on October 4, 2007. The 6.1 update wasn't rolled out until August 4, 2008, almost a year after the phone was release. WM 6.1 was available to Carriers in April of 08, which is still half a year, so I do not expect a 2.2 update until sometime next year.
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Oh, you know it. And we will all flash it.
Hopefully ATT wont lag on it, cuz Sprint just announced that there Evo will have 2.2 August 3rd.
I'm sure AT&T has their top android developers working on this..... Its too bad that their best ANDROID developers consist of three guys in a basement somewhere...
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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You're right. Samsung has not even said what their plans for gingerbread are. I hope that they would upgrade to that too. Google said in april that gingerbread should be ready in november.
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Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
I know patience is a virtue but man, i've been checking out the Evo 4G forum and there is so much activity and excitement about the successful leaked Froyo update. When is it our turn? I'm so jealous!!! Lol.
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
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How do we make this happen? And god damnit i want a stage 2 speed fix for the captivate!
:'(
I mean just look at this, LOOK AT IT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7201021&postcount=122
with the kernal patch this guy is getting double the quadrant score and is topping off way higher than a nexus 1 on froyo.
And to think the kernal patch is only necessary because samsung fked up in the firmware!? jUST WTF fix it!
damnit samsung.
good rant, ty.
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
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i dont see why not.
I would think they would be stepping up the date as a lot of the other android phones are getting their froyo in August.
Back in July, UK Galaxy S announced Froyo update will be delivered in Sept. And it looks like they will have it.
And the US market, well, they don't even have an ETA yet.
Talk about fragmentation.
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Back in July, UK Galaxy S announced Froyo update will be delivered in Sept. And it looks like they will have it.
And the US market, well, they don't even have an ETA yet.
Talk about fragmentation.
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Every night, I do.
I think there's gonaa be a froyo update for our captivates soon, i've been reading and somewhere I saw it was not going to be through OTA so I don't really know what's gonna be the update method.
Update this month??
Remember at&t has never, EVER, upgraded a smartphone which it sold. Never!! Do not know whether it is incompetence or a desire to get you to buy a new phone with FROYO and a new contract. They have absolutely zero experience in this area, OTA or not.
Consider the poor Backflip, still stuck in Android 1.3X in spite of all the promises.
They updated the Fuze. A couple of times i think. I ran custom ROMS but I know they updated it at least once.
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AT&T updated the oringial Blackjack from Winmo 6.0 to 6.1
Yep, but we have to give HTC and Samsung credit for those upgrades, and the one to the Tilt I, but AT&T, I don't think so. If Samsung can work around all the crippling of the Captivate, maybe they will offer us something, but the stock Galaxy S is not quite the same beast as the Captivate. OTA and from AT&T, it'll be a first. We shall see!
Take it back. AT&Ts HTC Aria just got a minor update, interesting thing: it was OTA
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Update this month??
Remember at&t has never, EVER, upgraded a smartphone which it sold. Never!! Do not know whether it is incompetence or a desire to get you to buy a new phone with FROYO and a new contract. They have absolutely zero experience in this area, OTA or not.
Consider the poor Backflip, still stuck in Android 1.3X in spite of all the promises.
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That's not true. I had a Tilt 2 before making the switch to Android, and they just released an updated ROM for it with Sense instead of TouchFlo 3d. I thought THAT would never happen.
It's coming, but it will be long after the other carriers.
September 23rd
A number of sources are saying the Captivate 2.2 will come on the 23rd (or are they saying Galaxy S 2.2). Either way, it may be a bit before an official US version is available, but once the kernel is out, I would think that we'll see roms become available.
Just hang on a bit longer!
considering it took AT&T almost a year to upgrade the bold 9000 from 4.6 to the 5.0 OS that was available for months from other carriers, i wont be expecting froyo on this phone anytime soon.
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AT&T updated the oringial Blackjack from Winmo 6.0 to 6.1
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It wasn't AT&T, that upgraded the phone to WinMo, it was Samsung, as a matter of fact, I don't think AT&T supported the phone if you upgraded it to 6.1 [I miss my BlackJack, lol]. And you had to download it from their site, and all that other bull.
Either way, I just want Froyo, it's driving me crazy, all this talk about it coming, and what not. Leave it to AT&T, and all US carriers to load the phones with such nonsense, that the phones software has to be beta tested 30x's over before it can even hit the consumer. By the time 2.2 is out for the US Galaxy S devices, every other carrier/droid phone is going to be talking about 3.0.
It's the one thing that I will give to Apple, they close sourced their equipment and their OS, not that I agree with it, but they locked AT&T out of alot of aspects of the OS, and how they bundle software with it [no AT&T bloatware upon purchase], so they beta test for a month or so, depending on how major the release, and then push it out, and patch along the way.
I understand how difficult it is for android, with different HW spread across all the MFGs, but if the MFGs stop with the bloat we'd all be happy with Froyo right now
I hope it comes out this month. I think it's mandatory for Samsung to release an update across all carriers because of the faulty GPS. I'm hoping we'll know something by the 23rd.
I'm sure we'll get the update sooner or later - heck, September is only halfway through. While it does seem unlikely that we'll get this is month, deadlines frequently slip in software development, so it's not entirely surprising.
Chances are, those of os who want to will be running the i9000 Froyo ROM with a fixed kernel before we see the update roll out from AT&T, but I look forward to being delightfully surprised. We've already fixed the rotation issues, so it just remains to be seen if the headphone logic issue that popped up in the i9000 2.2 ROMs persists in the final build.
One word, no.
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Update this month??
Remember at&t has never, EVER, upgraded a smartphone which it sold. Never!! Do not know whether it is incompetence or a desire to get you to buy a new phone with FROYO and a new contract. They have absolutely zero experience in this area, OTA or not.
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Dead wrong. I personally get AT&T updates on following Smartphones:
1. HTC 2125 WM5.0->WM5.1
2. Samsung BlackJack WM5.0->WM6.0
3. Samsung BlackJack 2 WM6.0->WM6.1
4. Samsung Jack WM6.1->WM6.5
GPS update this month? Maybe.
Froyo? Not bloody likely. We'll be extremely lucky to see Froyo in 2010.
According to this article: http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/10/s...2-2-might-be-released-later-in-december-2010/
We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
Keep in mind this is for Canadian carriers.
also keep in mind samsung always says one day and it ends up being forever later!
Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
well it's already officialy out for Bell (Vibrant)... so I'm guessing Rogers (Captivate) should make the move soon...
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Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
I would actually be impressed with Rogers if they got it done before AT&T did as AT&T has had the phone a few months longer. I'm on Rogers, with an AT&T phone, I'll take whichever release comes first.
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
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my MIGHT vs WILL is for "later in December" as stated in the title of the article - Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate OS 2.2 might be released “later in December 2010″
Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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This statement contradicts itself.
I think if we get Froyo by Dec 31 at 11:59pm we will be very lucky. As to Gingerbread that might come in 2012 if at all. I really dont understand the foot dragging by the US carriers. Unless ATT is locking out more functions
I'm thinking how we can all aim our fireworks for New Years at Samsung's headquarter. Or AT&T as well.
We will just have to wait and see, If history holds true, (like they did with WM builds) the Offical update from ATT will be nothing more then the leaked rom we have been using for months with a few things removed or added. Like the lock out for tethering without a tethering plan and such.
AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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I'll give odds that it won't be out til next year.
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I just want to get some sort of leaked 2.2.1 build so we can get some epic levels of custom roms that are stable...
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AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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HAHAHAHA oh wait.... Dun worry it gon be K. Canada's Cappys have it.
This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
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This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
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You are splitting hairs - AT&T is the driver behind the added bloatware. Samsung only does because AT&T requires it. If they had their way, they would have one ROM that worked on all carriers. They would still add Touchwiz to differentiate themselves from vanilla Android - and for average joe consumer this is a successful strategy. AT&T wouldn't add the bloatware (force Samsung to add it) if they didn't generate a decent amount of revenue on it.
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We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
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Im not to excited anymore about froyo(Don't get me wrong i absolutely love the captivate). Samsung just needs to go ahead and roll out their new phone with Gingerbread. I am am waiting for that day... I just dont see anything else happening with the captivate besides froyo.
... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad
Just got this text message from at&t anyone know what it might be? I plan to decline the update since I am on a custom rom.
AT&T FREE MSG: AT&T is providing a free update for your phone. When asked to install the update, please select OK. Thank You.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't quality testing for an E- reader be somewhat less extensive than it would be for a smartphone?
My guess is the Nook just needs to be able to run the OS and a few apps. The Captivate was past that stage months ago... probably before the phone was even released.
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Just got this text message from at&t anyone know what it might be? I plan to decline the update since I am on a custom rom.
AT&T FREE MSG: AT&T is providing a free update for your phone. When asked to install the update, please select OK. Thank You.
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That's just the old update. They've been spamming everyone with it for the most part.
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... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad
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And my apple refuses to peel as easily as my orange. What's up with that?!
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And my apple refuses to peel as easily as my orange. What's up with that?!
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Yeah, weird, you should have a doctor look at that for you before it turns green and falls off...
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... and to boot, B&N is already stating they are committed to 2.3 on it as well. That's a darn shame the Samsung and the carriers are slipping with these Galaxy S phones so bad
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Great, now get your Nook to make calls and run apps and you're all set!!
My gripe is this, I got my Captivate July 14th from Best buy, this is now December 15th! Froyo was released in I believe May. Why Samsung didn't release all Galaxy S. phones with 2.2 is quite idiotic when I'm sure they had the 2.2 souce before May and could have put it on all models of the Galaxy S phones at launch or by the end of August at THE LATEST!!!
I got my Nook Color November 20th, and B&N has already committed to bringing out 2.2 by the end of January and 2.3 later next year. And this I can believe, before the nook color I had the original nook, they upgraded the firmware on that device at least half a dozen times in a years time. The most We've heard from samsung is delay after delay, when the phones were first show Samsung was stating the 2.2 release would be by August, then by the end of summer, then by mid november.... IT"S NOW MID DECEMBER - six months since the first Galaxy S phones were released and almost 8 months since froyo was released to manufacturers and no one still has a definate date.
Now some people will say "It's the carriers fault for the delay!!!" That's partially true, but you must remember Samsung supposedly released the code to the carriers at the end of September/mid October, whom in turn haven't even acknowledged that they have it nor given anyone a straight answer on a release date. But that's just two months out of six since Galazy S was released so you can't really blame the carriers fully about something that should have had 2.2 to begin with.
And as far as the people saying "The Nook Color is an ereader, Galaxy S is a phone!!! Beyond the GSM chip, the camera and bluetooth and their associated applications the underlying OS is the same - and it's not like B&N just threw stock vanilla Android on their device, they tweaked and overlayed the heck out of it, just like Samsung does with their phones. So why does it take Samsung almost half a year to release an upgrade for their phones while B&N can release an upgrade in two months?
So what were they doing all that time? I guess working on 2.3 to work with Nexus S - which is basically a Galaxy S phone with a different body, curved screen and an NFS chip thrown in. So what happens to all of the Galaxy S phones? IF Samsung is smart they will release 2.3 to all of the Galaxy S phones no later than March, there's no excuse not to especially when they just put out another Galaxy S clone with 2.3.
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...Beyond the GSM chip, the camera and bluetooth and their associated applications...
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I...don't even know where to begin. Doesn't matter anyway as you clearly just want to complain.
Yep, I'm venting, I love my Captivate for the hardware that's in it but right now it's like having a high speed sports car with only first and second gear. And as time goes on and the lack of initiative from Samsung and AT&T to try to keep this phone up to date makes me think I should have just jumped ship and looked at an HTC device. It's just mind boggling that a $250 non-contract device may get more updates than something that I paid $200 for WITH a 1-2 year contract which will total more than $1.5k when it's all said and done.
Of course I could just go and slap on a 2.2 ROM and be content and then wait for the dev's to put 2.3 out for it, but it shouldn't have to be that way, we shouldn't have to rely on dev's to cook them up for us when the average person with a Galaxy S phone has a 1-2 year contract on it.
With that much money going into the device over a 1-2 year span for the purchase of the device and service the phone should be guaranteed at least two major updates not just creak by with one whenever the manufacturers and carriers feel they should put effort into it.As much as I hate Apple that's one place where they got it right - making sure their iPhones are upgradeable for the life of a purchasers contract.
Dude, you shoulda got the Dell.. isn't the Aero still on Cupcake?
I had a Dell Aero V50 Windows mobile PDA once during my windows mobile heydays, took them forever to put out the update to windows mobile 5.0, great update but too late, by then I jumped ship to Windows Mobile Phone Samsung BlackJack, which Samsung at least put out the updates for everyone to grab offline and easily update their phones even though AT&T never put it out officially.
After that going thru three HTC window Mobile phones maybe I got spoiled, HTC was in the same boat Samsung is in now with makeing several variations of a phone (Tilt/Fuze/Tilt2) but didn't play with customers emotions they updated their phones, when one was able to update they were all able to be updated off of their site, and if you wanted you could wait for AT&T to bring out their watered down version but never anything like this.
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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sounds awesome
Thanks, We are really excited on our end as well!
ho lee ****... I can't wait. lol
Alright, now this is getting me hyper..lol
Don't know how much of this is true (always skeptical), but I am an insominiac and this just added fuel to the fire.
Checking in........
nice! Hopefully this announcement well come tomorrow.
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I will be the skeptical (hater) one here.
I still will let action speak for itself.
Just remember that if this has nothing to do with development, you will have failed 100 folds with this community and further tarnish the Samsung name.
I'd rather hear Samsung is on the phone with AT$T pushing for faster updates instead.
IMO, I smell sales...
Not getting my hopes up.
If it's that official Captivate Ginberbread was coming I'd skeet skeet skeet, but if it's Official Captivate Froyo I'd just raise my eyebrow - soon enough having 2.2 is going to be like having 1.6 was last June where everyone was slowly getting 2.1 and eagerly waiting for for 2.2 while 2.3 was already on everyones tongues for the must have's for their next phone.
Seriously, after all the recent smartphone announcements I've heard in the past seven months of owning this phone it has got to be real good for me to take a second look at any Samsung device. Samsung and AT&T fooled me once with the BlackJack in 2006 and they've fooled me again with the Galaxy S in 2010, Samsung makes great latest and greatest hardware but once it's out the door it's usually DIY if you want a speedy (as in before half a year or more has passed before Samsung and AT&T decide to put it out) firmware upgrade. At this point I perceive that Samsung will probably put out 2.2 on their own for the Captivate and the other American Galaxy S models just like they did with the BlackJack. Official firmware upgradeable smartphones were a rarity then and with only select Windows Mobile phones doing it but now it's the norm, get with the times or lose your current or potential customers to HTC and Motorola!
Manufacturers/carriers really need to start giving out at least a one year up to date guarantee for updates especially if the hardware is fully capable, and the Galaxy S series has enough umph to go at least two years on the hardware side so ATT/Samsung better not pull an EOL and discontinue support right at July for this almost wonderful phone!!!
"Hey I know that your phone hasn't been updated so why don't you just buy our nexus s it will be on att in the next couple of months is running 2.3 and you should (crosses fingers) get an update for it soon after the next google firmware update. Oh and it'll only cost you about $700 or more dollars." Or is it "we will be pushing 2.2 to your phones; however you will have to pay $X for it" im sorry but I am so fed up with att and samsung. I love my captivate but that's thanks to all the devs here. But ill wait and to see what the next disappointment a big coroeration can try and serve to me on a silver platter
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The only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing that will get Samsung off of my ****-list is a lag-free, gps-working, Gingerbread ROM.
Had they delivered in November like they promised, a lag-free, gps-working, Froyo ROM would have been enough.
But the penalty for waiting until god damn March is that Froyo is no longer acceptable.
I am really hoping that this is gonna be gingerbread, I will not get my hopes up however. I hope this is for real because otherwise this is my very last Samsung phone. The only thing that I really love is the screen.
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O wait I know how this will end up samsung will just give open source and pass all the work onto the devs here that way it isn't their fault there is no update. And they don't have to work on the updates and can just keep pushing out new products
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lol WOOT !!! cant wait...
i highly doubt its official gingerbread, i would scream like a girl if it was tho. kernel source maybe? or, a sort of xda - samsung exchange, in where samsung might port over the codes and allow official OTA to go over as a beta program.
very excited
I think at this point it would have to be official Gingerbread + an HSPA+ modem + greatly improved GPS to cause me to seriously reconsider complaining to AT&T until they let me upgrade to an Inspire.
Not that I have any grudge against Samsung; I love the Captivate from a raw hardware standpoint, and the screen is still incomparable (until SAMOLED+, that is), but after getting lost because of the GPS tracking issues more than once, and several close calls with random shutdowns at night culminating in having to actually drag out an old clock radio, I simply can't rely on the thing to do its job.
I can has gingerbread?
Why would Samsung need to talk to XDA before releasing an announcement? Doesn't sound like a Gingerbread announcement. Which means I'll continue to be disappointed.
That sounds right to me. Just announcing something like GB for Captivate would be a huge win for Samsung's damaged brand. Why would they share that PR spotlight with XDA?
Seems like more hype to me. I do honestly hope they prove me wrong though...
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